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"Carroll advised Walker to say no" to UCLA

UPDATE II: Bumped again in light of the hilarious story of Carroll now recommending the SDSU job for DeWayne Walker. Originally published on August of 2006, the bumped again after December 6, 2006. -N

UPDATE: Bumped. pimp put up this post back in August. He called it. -N

From the diaries. No surprise here. The physical genius is a typical classy Trojan. - N


Sorry to post another diary so soon after the other, but I just spotted this article from Brian Dohn in the Daily News:

When DeWayne Walker was contacted about turning around one of the worst defenses in college football, he received advice from many colleagues.

One was his former boss, USC coach Pete Carroll. And in describing UCLA's defense, Carroll apparently did not hold back.

According to sources outside of UCLA, Carroll's assessment of the Bruins' defense was brutal, if not brutally honest, as he told Walker the Bruins' defense was soft and needed an upgrade in talent before it could be fixed and advised Walker not to take the job.

Walker, who was a defensive backs coach with the Washington Redskins, accepted the challenge anyway, shunning a larger NFL paycheck to become UCLA's defensive coordinator.

Walker declined comment about what Carroll said, saying it was a private conversation. "I spoke with a lot of people, and I received positive and negative feedback," Walker said. "Ultimately, I decided it was something I wanted to do. I could have stayed in the NFL, but one of the reasons I came back to college was to work with a guy like coach (Karl) Dorrell."

I love this development.  As the article continues to say, "Several UCLA players said they were aware Carroll did not have pleasant things to say about them," which can only be a good thing come December 2 at the Rose Bowl.

Does anyone envision any coach in this situation not revealing the details of a conversation like that just before the big game to provide extra motivation?

What we have here is a coach who can tell his team that he took the job because he believed in them, and Dorrell's system, despite all the stuff he was hearing from everyone else.  An "us-against-the-world" mentality is exactly what this defense needs following last year's performance.

Plus, it makes Carroll look like an asshole, his old employee calling to ask for advice and then completely ignoring it to go work for the competition.  If the defense shows the improvement we're told it will, Carroll looks like an idiot for years to come, with every crisp tackle any of the players on this year's roster makes.

What was the quote? "We just have to beat those f***ers"?

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of BruinsNation's (BN) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of BN's editors.

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DW should be mad at himself.
Why would you call the rival of  the school you're thinking of coaching? Yes, I know its his former boss and friend. Of course PC is going to bad mouth us. He doesn't want you coaching here because he knows you have talent and can inspire our players to play with some pride. We were soft last year but there is some young talent on this team that appear to be eating up what this coaching staff is feeding them. Hopefully this will  translate into an awesome season. GO BRUINS!!!! 11 -1  BO shocks the nation!!!!

by bruinelder on Aug 31, 2006 12:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Nice post Pimp
Pom Pom has been a classless jerk from the get go. He started recruiting negatively against UCLA from Day 1. Unforunately it has been working for him because of the ineptness of Toledo and all the stumbling from KD.

We are going to find out this year whether KD/Walker will be able to reverse the tide.

In hoops apparently Tim Floyd has been relentlessy recruiting negatively against UCLA saying all kinds of baseless sh!t against Howland. But thankfully none of the recruits are buying his BS because they can see the results in Howland.

This year is going to tell us a lot about KD. And hopefully these kinds of stories will fire up the troops. We can tolerate the dreadful crap we have seen in the UCLA-SC game in last 3 (and Toledo's last 4) years.

by bluestreet on Aug 31, 2006 1:14 PM PDT reply actions  

LOL @ Floyd
Howland doesn't even need to negatively recruit against SUC, that redneck bitch Floyd does it for us, what with his insane ranting and raving and paper kicking and generally throwing a tantrum out on the floor.  Even when it seems like he does something right, it ends up helping UCLA anyway.  Last time I checked, we have a committment from Love and interest from Rose, with OJ's shaky non-committment factoring into their decisions.

Even when that idiot was able to catch lightning in a bottle and sneak up on a sleepwalking Bruin team, all it did was fuel a run to the Championship game while SUC sat at home and watched.

by scittles on Aug 31, 2006 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

The quote was from me
Actually from my sorority sister in 1998.  That should always be our rallying cry.  I'm glad you guys enjoy it so much.

by bruinbabe2000 on Aug 31, 2006 1:23 PM PDT reply actions  

We'll see who laughs last
Like I said, I find the humor in the fact that Walker clearly didn't respect Pete Carroll's opinion, because he took the UCLA job anyeay, and in the fact that this is a chance for Walker to make Carroll look like an idiot if the defense, which Carroll said was irreparable, turns it around this year.

I wouldn't have included the word I did if I'd known this diary would be bumped, but you'll find that "jerk" isn't the word I think best describes the USC coach.

by antipimp on Aug 31, 2006 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

please disregard my previous post
Apparently the post from USCFamilyMan was deleted, so my comment makes no sense.

by antipimp on Aug 31, 2006 1:24 PM PDT reply actions  

It's better that way
that dumbass is trying to turn the comments into a flame.

by BruinMac04 on Aug 31, 2006 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

We wanted to make sure
The "Family Man" gets to spend more time with his "Family."

by Nestor on Aug 31, 2006 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Completely unrelated...
... but was the countdown clock always set for two hours before the start of the Utah game?

by antipimp on Aug 31, 2006 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmm
it was set a long time ago .... when the game time wasn't set. Was just guestimating at that time. Will try to fix it tonight.

by Nestor on Aug 31, 2006 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

$C SUCKS
Screw $C and their classless football program and joke of a basketball program. I hope they get thumped by CAL-Berkeley and we finally end their streak at the ROSE BOWL.
FUCK $C
FUCK $C
FUCK $C
FUCK $C
FUCK $C
FUCK $C
FUCK $C

by BruinGeek88 on Aug 31, 2006 4:02 PM PDT reply actions  

What does it say...
What does it say about a defense when it needs that sort of motivation to play well?

I'm all for firing them up with this quote but it won't mean anything if the UCLA defense is as sorry as it's been the last few years.

Cola
http://www.classiccolaforthesoul.com

by Cola @ Bruins Nation on Aug 31, 2006 7:01 PM PDT reply actions  

I guess last year when they
call the team "pansies" wasn't enough to fire them up.

by cv on Sep 1, 2006 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Karl is already hitting the recruiting trail....
Class of 2008 safety standout Rahim Moore (6-1, 190, 4.45) from Los Angeles (Calif.) Dorsey has unlimited potential. This talented product of Los Angeles is only 15 and won't turn 16 until February that means he won't turn 18 until after his freshman year in college. There is no telling how much bigger and better Moore will become next year at this time when will be no doubt one of the most sought after high school prospects in the nation- bruin blitz free

Yeah he verbally committed GO BRUINS!!!!

FUCK SC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by uclabruins05 @ Bruins Nation on Dec 6, 2006 5:51 PM PST reply actions  

Tuberville for Defensive Coordinator!!!!!!! (if Walker leaves)

Tuberville just resigned from Auburn. He had a good record for Auburn till this year. He had a good resume for Defensive Coordinator before that.

We got Chow for Offensive Coordinator, so why not get Tuberville? If Tuberville does not want to be in football anymore, what about Rocky Long? He was the former Defensive Coordinator for UCLA and was successful. Now he resigned from New Mexico.

by edflick on Dec 9, 2008 1:32 PM PST reply actions  

Tuberville is a southern guy

I’d be shocked if he left the south and as a guy who coached a SEC program for a while, I don’t see him taking a coordinator job either.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Dec 9, 2008 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Coach Long

I gotta think that Coach Neuheisel has already talked to Coach Long. Remember, Coach Neuheisel managed to get Coach Chow, so no one (even Coach Tuberville) is immune from the relentless optimism of Coach Neuheisel. If Coach Walker decides to go elsewhere (and I join everyone else in hoping that he does not choose to commit Coachular Suicide by going to SDSU), I’m very confident that our CEO will fill the slot with someone great. Not like it was before.

by Fox 71 on Dec 9, 2008 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

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