Firing Out ...

Fired out...

indeed. My doubts about KD were reinforced in a huge way tonight.

by scittles on Sep 23, 2006 7:27 PM PDT reply actions

Those red zone calls ...

reminded me of the decision to punt on 4th against Southenrn Cal.

Playing not to lose.

Always comes back to bite you in the ass.

Then again what do we know ... we are just cranky alum not happy with "10 win" season.

by Nestor on Sep 23, 2006 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions

in the literal sense, when we were near midfield in the first half and needed less than a foot on fourth down to get a first and we punted it. Ben is a big guy, and the sneak always works with him. I was already seeing flashbacks of that when I saw Perez come onto the field...and unfortunately, the end result was the same, an embarassing loss.

by scittles on Sep 23, 2006 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions

And ..

what about the calls when we got the ball with about a mintue to go in the first half.

Svoboda is a such a freaking joke as a OC play caller its not even funny.

by Nestor on Sep 23, 2006 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions

I can't even get into the playcalling

right now, because just the sheer number of things I wholeheartedly disagreed with would be too much to count. All I can say is that Cable's offense might have been predictable, but so is Svoboda's, and at least Cable was smart enough to stick with something when it's working.

by scittles on Sep 23, 2006 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions

That pre-half time shit...

had KD's fingerprints all over it.

by Ajax on Sep 23, 2006 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions

Play-calling.

Did we even take a single shot at the end zone on all of our red-zone possessions. Truly sad. Some real killer-instinct there...

I'm pretty sure I've seen some 14 year old kids on Playstation calling a more creative/effective offensive game then what I saw today. Sad, just sad.

Can we officailly change our attention to basketball now??

by norcalbruin95 on Sep 23, 2006 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions

My wife ...

Not a big football fan.

Even she was asking - honey what's going in. Why the heck are we not throwing the ball when we get closer to those field goal posts?

by Nestor on Sep 23, 2006 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions

Same here

My wife, a big football fan in general, but not a student of the x's and o's, was outraged. "Why do they keep calling that same play." "That Bell guy sucks"

I can't disagree.

by Menelaus on Sep 23, 2006 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions

Dorrell is a fucking loser

And whats a shame is that last year's bullshit 10 win season is going to keep him past this season.

And then we have a faction of UCLA fan base who will pay the loyalty card and a faction of students who have no concept of what is it like to have a good football program.

Bunch of fucking losers.

by bluestreet on Sep 23, 2006 7:33 PM PDT reply actions

Fire Dorrell then promote Walker...

Hopefully before the trip to South Bend.

by MarcoTheBruin on Sep 23, 2006 7:34 PM PDT reply actions

May be ...

But I don't wany DeWayne anywhere near the HCing gig after the season either.

I am still not convinced we have a decent D.

by Nestor on Sep 23, 2006 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions

Defense

I thought the defense played pretty good, but the one play that changed the whole game was that 3rd and 18 play when the Huskies were backed up on the 5 yard line at the end of the first half... to that point they were getting absolutely nothing.

Rodney Van should have known where the first down marker was. The WR caught the ball at least three yards short of the marker, but Rodney dove at the ball instead. He could have just pushed him out of bounds and Washington would have had to punt, we would have gotten the ball in good field position and maybe scored and put the game pretty much out of reach. That was a critical play and if our season falls apart I'll look back on that one in disgust.

by ucla21 on Sep 23, 2006 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions

Defense ...

did give up 29 points in pretty much one half.

Rodney Van had issues but so did lot of other guys. Its the coaches who put them in position to lose.

by Nestor on Sep 23, 2006 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions

I can't blame them too much

They allowed 22 points (they had nothing to do with the last TD) and 254 yards. Our offense cost us the game considering how many times we were in a position to score touchdowns, and how we couldnt milk the clock whatsoever in the 2nd half. I can't fault the defensive line, those guys are playing their hearts out. Linebackers were OK, didn't contain Stanback well enough in the 2nd half. Corners weren't very good.

by ucla21 on Sep 23, 2006 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions

Defensive backs ...

we are supposed to have the best secondary in the Pac-10 and our DC is a former secondary coach at the pro level. Kind of scray ... don't you think?

Cal will torch us up in Berkeley. As will Oregon. Yikes.

by Nestor on Sep 23, 2006 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions

I'm worried about Stanford

They have Evan Moore and Mark Bradford. We SHOULD be able to score 80 on that horrible defense, but if Stanford gives us any trouble at all, the worst team in the Pac 10 by far... god help us.

by ucla21 on Sep 23, 2006 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions

Stanford

May be we will set some D-1 record by hitting 20 field goals!

by Nestor on Sep 23, 2006 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions

BO

Gave up one touchdown believe.

by artybruin on Sep 25, 2006 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions

My thoughts exactly . . .

When Van dove and the UW receiver got the ist down . . . the bad news started flowing.

by TheStick on Sep 23, 2006 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions

Dorrell should take over the play calling.

The defense could have played better, but did a respectable job.

The biggest problem was the play calling. We were so conservative the defense could just stack the line and stop us. I think Dorrell should step up and call the plays. We're very young at every position except WR. Our coaches need to come through and they didn't tonight.

You need to throw deep once in a while; not once in 3 games. Ben Olson could be our big play guy and we need to use him. I can't remember one pass into the end zone, which is ridiculous.

by MROZE on Sep 24, 2006 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions

Someone should take over the play calling

And, my first choice wouldn't be KD. I assume he had a hand in the game plan, and for all I know, was calling some of the plays. Whoever was responsible did an abysmal job.

by Menelaus on Sep 24, 2006 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions

The benefit of Dorrell taking over the playcalling

would be that he would no longer be able to scapegoat the OC's that he put in place. Since this is "his" offense, he should take the helm.

by Ajax on Sep 24, 2006 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions

Lack of a big play WR

Killed us today. Major hole in our recruiting over the past few years, we don't have a 6'3''+ 210 pounder that can make plays and score touchdowns. Even without it, there's no excuse for not tossing the ball into the endzone. Shame on Dorrell/Svoboda for settling for triples and thinking it would be good enough to win against a good opponent on the road.

by ucla21 on Sep 23, 2006 7:39 PM PDT reply actions

Recruiting

Dorrell has had 3 years to get big play talent in here. So no talent excuse will not fly.

Plus we certainly have more talent than Washington and probably the third most talented team in the conference.

by Nestor on Sep 23, 2006 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions

Agreed

It's a shame how a former reciever can't bring in quality recieving talent. Our highest rated WR recruit stepped up today in pretty much the ONLY situation where he had the chance to make a play. Why isn't he on the field more? I know he hasn't been reliable catching the ball, but DeSean Jackson had the dropsies last year too. He still ended up as Cal's best reciever and now he's got like 8 TD catches in 4 games.

by ucla21 on Sep 23, 2006 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions

Joe Cowan might have helped . . .

but that's the way it goes with injuries. We DO have some taller receivers, D. Johnson is 6'4 and so is Ketchum, by the way, what's his deal? Has he even caught a pass this year?? D. Johnson is a true freshman so he gets a break. Taylor and Everett are 6'1, not bad. We need some height!!!

by TheStick on Sep 23, 2006 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions

We've got big TE's

that can potentially fill that role with some creative play calling. If you remember, early in the game, we were getting good 10 yard gains from Moya and Paulsen, no reason why they shouldn't be in the picture in the redzone. In fact, I'd be looking at those guys even more considering that Ben has a better cannon than Drew did. The quick TE hit should be bread and butter for us this year, just as the MoDrew screen pass was that for us last year.

by scittles on Sep 23, 2006 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions

Maybe but,

a lot of those long balls were horribly thrown. 5-10 yards past the receiver can't be caught by ANYONE. The play calling in the Red Zone was horrible, but seeing how Ben threw deep, you have to wonder if the 5 yard slants were the only way to move the ball.

by MOlson on Sep 23, 2006 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions

No everyone should see the light...

Look around the boards, no one is standing by him. Not even his loyal supporters. Nestor and Co. have alrealy figured out that long before us. He does not belong in Div 1A as a head coach.

by justwatching on Sep 23, 2006 7:41 PM PDT reply actions

I want to be charitable

and still think this season is salvagable if we can hold serve at the Rose Bowl, beat ASU on the road, and then beat Southern Cal. But I am having a hard time believing.

That was one of the worst coached game I have ever seen even for a UCLA football game.

by Nestor on Sep 23, 2006 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions

Not feeling very giving

This loss was all about coaching. At least, this was about coaching about as much as any loss ever is. I, too, have hope, but it is diminishing....

by Menelaus on Sep 23, 2006 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions

Talent was not the problem today...

It wasn't talent, it was coaching, VERY BAD COACHING.

Why are we running the ball on 1st and 2nd down when we are down by 10 points in the 4rth quarter with less than 5 minutes to go?

by MarcoTheBruin on Sep 23, 2006 7:44 PM PDT reply actions

TOTAL BREAKDOWN

at all facets of the offense.

by Nestor on Sep 23, 2006 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions

Agreed

Seriously. What the fuck.

by JWongUCLA on Sep 23, 2006 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions

We jumped the shark when we didn't go for it

What's the dif between being up by any number between 3 and 7? Nothing. In a goal line situation, you go for it and our Defense will do the rest if we don't make it.
We didn't play the field position game.

by True Blue and Gold on Sep 23, 2006 8:01 PM PDT reply actions

Painful to watch both halves.

I think the play calling in the red zone told an underlying story: limited confidence in Big Ben. Maybe that's why there was not a single shot into the end zone in the air when we were in the red zone. If that's it, if Ben is still just getting used to the college game, then the play calling might make sense for most of the game.

However, what was stunning was the play calling once we fell 10 points down. Two running plays in a row when we needed two scores and had over 80 yards to go just to get the first one and the clock clearly not on our side???? If ever there was a time in the game when we needed to sell out and pass to have even a shot of winning, that was it. I was completely amazed and disgusted. That game was totally winnable for us, and should have been put away in the first half.

by HoosierBruin on Sep 23, 2006 8:22 PM PDT reply actions

dorrell sucks.

When does basketball season start?

by uclaike on Sep 23, 2006 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions

uclaike

It's that kind of fucking attitude keeps us down.

"When does basketball season star?"

Who the fuck cares? It's football season and if you're going to look ahead, then you are a shitty fan who doesn't deserve the glory that we get in victory.

by True Blue and Gold on Sep 23, 2006 9:10 PM PDT reply actions

True Blue and Gold...

Hey man, we're all pissed off fans here, but no need to jump on another Bruin faithful. It's not his fault, he's just expressing what UCLA is all about...Mediocrity on the gridiron, and pining for a successful program.

You're good people, and a hell of a contributor here at BN, just don't jump on another Bruin so easily.

Oh, yeah...Karl Dorrell sucks.

Go Bruins...F@#$% Southern Cal... UCLA Fight Fight Fight!

by HomeBruin @ Bruins Nation on Sep 23, 2006 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions

Anyone hear Cowheard Friday morning on ESPN 710?

"UCLA is committed to Football like North Korea is committed to World Peace" - The Heard 9/22/06 in the am

by TheStick on Sep 23, 2006 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions

It's fucked up though

no one should ever give up on the Bruins. I mean, I don't approve of Dorrell either but I'm still going to be there at the Stanford game.

I love the United States, I mean no one should ever give up on it. I mean, I don't aprove of Bush either but I'm still going to be there for the 4th of July.

Parallelism. Best I could come up with but you get what I mean.

by True Blue and Gold on Sep 23, 2006 9:21 PM PDT reply actions

Ha

I feel you True Blue...You should hear my father...60 years old come Oct 12th, class of '68, and he is ready to kill somebody, if he doesn't have a heart attack first.

I haven't felt this much anger directed at the program, well...ever. We're so close, and yet, so far. Great talent, but horrible coaching.

Personally, I'm ready for Rick Neuheisel to come back. Or Butch Davis. Hell, at this point, I'd take just about anybody else.

Go Bruins...F@#$% Southern Cal... UCLA Fight Fight Fight!

by HomeBruin @ Bruins Nation on Sep 23, 2006 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions

Can we bring Toledo back?

Those 8 win seasons and off-the-field boo-boos sure beat what we have gotten since.

by MarcoTheBruin on Sep 23, 2006 9:28 PM PDT reply actions

Awful

What an embarassment. I made the trip up and was stuck in the UW student section.

by chaphill1 on Sep 23, 2006 9:30 PM PDT reply actions

Screw Toledo

say what will about KD but atleast he runs a clean program.

by True Blue and Gold on Sep 23, 2006 9:31 PM PDT reply actions

Easy to be clean when you are mediocre

The problems start when you win.

The Toledo comment was more about how KD has lowered the standard in every area except off-the-field behavior.

by MarcoTheBruin on Sep 23, 2006 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions

Funny how Toledo managed to be mediocre

AND run an unclean program.

by True Blue and Gold on Sep 23, 2006 9:44 PM PDT reply actions

Just say NO to Toledo

As embarassing as this loss is for us fans, it's better than embarassing the university with off the field problems.

by scittles on Sep 23, 2006 10:04 PM PDT reply actions

Time to take out the PS2....

I guess the only way the Bruins will win the Pac-10 this year is on my PS2...

by kdout on Sep 23, 2006 10:25 PM PDT reply actions

notes: How to lose

Play calling.
Lack of breakaway speed from RB.
Conditioning for punt return man.
Lack of push from DT's.
Play calling.

by kauwildman on Sep 23, 2006 10:34 PM PDT reply actions

Don't Blame Markey or Austin

They both were brilliant and did what they were supposed to do.

They put the ball in the red zone -- on two great plays.

It's up to the offense to do the rest. And, it didn't.

Yes, neither has Drew's break away speed -- but Markey has the ability to run straight ahead for yardage -- consistently. Speed v. consistency? It's a trade off. But, to criticize Markey for what he didn't do is unfair. We didn't criticize Drew every time he danced around an lost yardage.

You take the best a player can give.

Yesterday, we got that from Markey and Austin. We just didn't finish up what they started.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Sep 24, 2006 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions

Absolutely

I thought both of those guys were bright spots in an otherwise dismal performance.

Now, if you want to try and convince me that Bell should never be given another handoff, you might get more traction.

by Menelaus on Sep 24, 2006 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions

Greg Kinear . . . the actor??

I'll even take Greg Kinnear, PLAYING DICK VERMEIL!! Bring back Crybaby!!

by TheStick on Sep 23, 2006 10:49 PM PDT reply actions

I'll take

Jason Miller as Ara Parsegian in "Rudy" for the new UCLA coach. Plus he was Father Karras in the Exorcist!

Go Bruins...F@#$% Southern Cal... UCLA Fight Fight Fight!

by HomeBruin @ Bruins Nation on Sep 23, 2006 10:54 PM PDT reply actions

bruins fans

i can imagine the frustration with the coaching staff and some of the play calls. they had the chance to put that game away early but couldn't and let the seattle fans back into the game.

but on a bright note, markey looks real good. almost maurice drew good.

good luck next week.

Zach
The Dish
http://www.udubdish.com

by zachls5 @ Bruins Nation on Sep 23, 2006 11:10 PM PDT reply actions

Congrats on the win, Zach

This loss hurts like a tomahawk to the nutsack, but at least it was to a good bunch of guys at Washington. You must be flying on cloud nine right about now.

Once again, congrats.

Go Bruins...F@#$% Southern Cal... UCLA Fight Fight Fight!

by HomeBruin @ Bruins Nation on Sep 23, 2006 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions

Huskies played well

They punished us for our awful predictable game plan just as they should have. I can just imagine the laughter of Husky fans when even they probably knew what plays we would run in advance in the second half.

Good for you guys to break your streak against us...we have our own little streak to break if Dorrell wants to keep his job...

by scittles on Sep 24, 2006 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions

I Feel Sick

I missed the second half because of a meeting I had. Needless to say, after I found out the final score, I felt sick. The play calling to end the first half was beffudling and I guess a sign of what was to come.

by uclabruinn on Sep 23, 2006 11:11 PM PDT reply actions

What happened to Ben Olson?

The Utah game now seems an aberration.

by uclabruinn on Sep 23, 2006 11:13 PM PDT reply actions

i can't believe what just happened....

i remember back in junior high wrestling, our coach would say that for every move, there is a counter move and for every counter, there's a move. well, we were completely kicking their ass for most of the first half (besides in the red zone), then washington updated their game plan and then we were walking around with our cocks in our hands wondering wtf was going on. we had TWO WEEKS for prepare for this game and we still completely choked it away.

where's butch? what about spurrier? i was watching with some friends and after the game we all conceded that we "suck again". what a joke. i need another beer. let's just have howland coach football too and pay him double.

by sfatoo on Sep 24, 2006 2:43 AM PDT reply actions

Time for AD to step up.

This game was typical of the KD era. A breakdown on every level, although the kids seemed to be trying hard in the first half. Problem is, there's just no viable leadership. Nowhere to point the finger except a KD and his exceptionally mediocre group of assistants.

Now, it's up to Guerrero to stop the bleeding and move on. Lavin to Howland, KD to ? Ball's in your court, Bob

by waters96 on Sep 24, 2006 5:34 AM PDT reply actions

A note to my student athlete

Son, I know that you read this website when you can, so I send this out to you. From where I type this, I can see your high school bumper sticker, "Losing Sucks", and I know how much you hate the loss. I know how hard you work every day both as a student and as an athlete, and how it has cost you in ways that are too personal to get into here. Losing sucks, but it does not make you a loser. You are my hero and I am proud of what you have accomplished and what you do every day to maintain it. It ain't easy, but it is worth it! You are in a great place and you have done great things to get where you are. Keep moving forward. Give them hell!!! Love ya! Dad (your number one fan). Go Bruins!

by converso on Sep 24, 2006 9:00 AM PDT reply actions

We feel the same way about the players converso

They were put in a terrible position by an incompetent head coach last night. It's really not fair to the players that works so hard to get to that position.

Converso Jr., keep your head up man.

by Ajax on Sep 24, 2006 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions

the support is appreciated

I know that you support the players. We have a gentleman's disagreement about the coach, but share a love for the Bruins. Your kind words here for the players are appreciated, and I enjoy following your posts very much. Respectfully, C. Go Bruins!!!

by converso on Sep 24, 2006 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions