Walker has my respect
There's something about Dewayne Walker that I really respect. It's the way he handles himself on the sidelines, how he is accountable for his defense's performance, and his honesty. Taken from Chris Foster's latimes article Walker takes the stern approach on defense
Always happy to share successes with players and other coaches, he stood straight-backed in the Notre Dame Stadium visitors' locker room last October and took the blame for a final 62 seconds that was like graffiti on the Mona Lisa.
Notre Dame went 80 yards in three pass plays for a 20-17 comeback victory, the likes of which even Touchdown Jesus had rarely seen.
Walker took the rap. He said he was waiting one more play to serve up his smorgasbord of blitzes.
A play that never came.
"I stood out there after the game was over," Walker said last week. "They were celebrating and I took it in. I just looked at the clock and learned something from it."
Now that is how a coach should be accountable after a disappointing loss like last year. He doesn't speak in general terms, but tells us really how he was feeling after that game and what he was thinking; he's not ashamed to be honest and speak his mind. We may have lost that heartbreaker, but I like the way he stands up to the loss, even though his players have said different, that it was their fault. The players really respect him and respond to him.
With Walker, I have complete confidence that our defense is in good hands. The effort might vary from game to game, but I know this guy really knows football and inspires our team. Now our offense, that's another thing. And what comes from our head coach in interviews and press conferences is just embarrassing.
After seeing what he had to say about this weekend's game, I can't wait for this game and to see our Bruins and Walker get their revenge. I'm proud to have this guy on our side, he's tough, competitive and hopefully has instilled that in our players:
Asked what he'd do Saturday if Notre Dame had the ball, trailing by four, with 1 minute 29 seconds remaining in the game, Walker beamed and said, "I'll let 'er rip. I might even yell across the field, 'Charlie, here we come.' "
Go Bruins
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of BruinsNation's (BN) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of BN's editors.
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He Gave Up 44 Against Utah
by BruinFan1 on Oct 3, 2007 5:43 PM PDT 0 recs
6-44
by Nestor on Oct 3, 2007 6:26 PM PDT 0 recs
no excuses for that loss
I liked that article in the Latimes and I have a lot of respect for Walker.
by bruin95 on
Oct 3, 2007 7:43 PM PDT
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Walker has 7 losses
And people wonder why we attack the positive ... because Pollyannas like you read these lopsided fluff pieces (that have no countervailing reality to them) and then say things like "Walker is a great coach" and "Walker should be our next head coach." Ridiculous.
by BruinCore on
Oct 3, 2007 8:35 PM PDT
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Core
Also, I think Dorrell's terrible offense cripples Walker's defense many times. His losses are just as much Dorrell's losses because Dorrell doesn't prepare the team well, they have too many penalties, too many turnovers and don't score consistently enough.
by bruin95 on
Oct 3, 2007 9:04 PM PDT
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You don't help your cause
by bluegold on
Oct 3, 2007 10:40 PM PDT
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you are absolutely right
You can look at the scoreboard and see that we scored 40 on the Oregon State defense, and conclude they suck, or you can actually look at the game and see the loss was not a result of the offense not doing its job, but of turnovers, poor punting, and lots of 3 and outs.
by silverlakebruin on
Oct 4, 2007 8:38 AM PDT
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by silverlakebruin on
Oct 4, 2007 8:39 AM PDT
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Excuses
You can't come on here ... a site that is devoted to realism and fact-based analysis ... make a subjective statement such as "Walker is a great coach," use a fluff piece with a quote from the coach with no talk of his average record or performance to support your claim, and expect to get a round of applause. What's worse is you whine and call yourself a victim when people point out how ridiculous that is.
Let me show you with evidence what Im talking about. You said you had "complete confidence that our defense is in good hands." THAT is what you said. Well I suppose I too have complete confidence that Walker will have our defense playing ... just above .500 ball! Because that is his record!! That doesn't make him a good coach. In fact, most of our losses have come against teams running the spread, an offense he can't beat at all. That makes him downright BAD.
And you reading some fluff article that doesn't even mention Utah, liking him for his quotes when his record is average, having complete confidence in him when he can't beat a common offense, and thinking he is a great coach because he's better than all the other bad coaches Dorrell hired ... makes you a Polyanna. Accept it ... own it.
by BruinCore on
Oct 4, 2007 9:05 AM PDT
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Last thing I'm going to say on this
"You can't come on here ... a site that is devoted to realism and fact-based analysis ... make a subjective statement such as "Walker is a great coach," use a fluff piece with a quote from the coach with no talk of his average record or performance to support your claim, and expect to get a round of applause."
Read #1
by bruin95 on
Oct 4, 2007 9:55 AM PDT
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ok, that was the second to last thing
by bruin95 on
Oct 4, 2007 10:11 AM PDT
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You said
So, you are saying that with the above statement you were not saying Walker was a good coach? Then excuse me.
by bluegold on
Oct 4, 2007 10:23 AM PDT
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disparity
And to respond to how I'm sourcing the fluff piece from the latimes as a basis for my diary, it's an online newspaper that I read. Some articles I like, some I don't. I'm sure I could get another viewpoint on Walker somewhere else, like here, which is why I check in here everyday, but yesterday I liked that article and felt like sharing my viewpoint in a diary. Fair enough?
by bruin95 on
Oct 4, 2007 10:34 AM PDT
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Fair indeed
My opposing viewpoint was in response to your assertion that Walker was a good coach. Whether you intended to say that or not, that was the message that came across by your choice of words and phrasing.
by bluegold on
Oct 4, 2007 10:45 AM PDT
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In Bad Taste
Coach Walker's performance has been neither great nor horrible. On the positive side, he came in and turned around the whole attitude of the defense, and makes an effort to put his players in poisitons and schemes where their skills will be utilized. He shows energy and drive, initiative, and industriousness. His coaching has paid dividends with a few exceptional performances. At the same time, consistency and poise are lacking, and his lack of technical knowledge and experience have been exposed on several occasions.
Coach Walker's stepping up and taking blame for the collapse at ND, and deflecting criticism from his players, is without question a positive. If you believe his negative traits outweigh the positive that is certainly a fair assement (indeed one I share), but don't let your passion blind you to evidence of the contrary. Man up and accept that you're both right.
by haywood nighttrain on
Oct 4, 2007 11:07 AM PDT
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Amen!
The jury is still out on Walker. He took a horrible defense and made it a lot better with the same players (can anyone deny that) but he does have some problems. I like what he has done so far, and hope the defense gets better, as it has thus far not lived up to expectations for the year.
However, the best thing that could happen to this defense would be an offense that could sustain long drives and score.
by silverlakebruin on
Oct 4, 2007 1:29 PM PDT
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Dorrell and his entire staff needs to go
That is the bottom line. So this discussion over some also ran defensive coordinator, who still hasn't shown he can beat college spread offensive schemes on a consistent level, and who looks decent given UCLA's horrific defensive track record in last few years, is moot.
DeWayne Walker is a barely above average DC at best, and an overhyped DC at worst.
But if Dorrell doesn't deliver a Pac-10 championship, just like KD, I want him gone from this program. Period.
by Nestor on
Oct 4, 2007 3:54 PM PDT
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Also Tastes Bad
Further, I cannot share your opinion here that winning is all that matters, period. The conduct and character of the team matters far more than results on a scoreboard or end-of-year standings.
Let's say Cal runs the table and wins the Pac-10 championship, while UCLA wins all its other games to post a 10-2 record. Should KD and his staff be fired??? Or, say UCLA goes 11-1 and wins the Pac-10, should they be fired then??? Maybe, maybe not. What if they loose every other game, ending up 4-8. Should the staff be axed??? Again, to me it depends on the conduct and character the team demonstrates, regardless of their record. A focus on the outcome at the expense of all else is reminiscent of the attitude that pushed Coach into retirement.
I doubt seriously that KD's staff and team will have a complete turnaround and demonstrate the poise and discipline that would make me want to see these coaches back on our sideline next year; but more important, I hope that we can maintain a civil tenor on this forum, as well as an openness to differing opinions.
by haywood nighttrain on
Oct 4, 2007 4:51 PM PDT
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This is just nonsense
That is an insult not just to the discussion we have been having hear for more than two years building our case, but it is also an insult to the Coach to insinuate somehow Dorrell is being subjected to same ridiculous criticism that was leveled against the Coach.
We have already discussed ad naseum how anything less than a Pac-10 championship will be considered as a failure on the part of this coaching staff, given what we have had last four years. We have discussed this over and over and over and over again.
No matter how much people squeal, if DG doesn't fire Dorrell and his entire staff in case he doesn't win the Pac-10, then we are not only going to come after Dorrell, but we are going to blast the entire UCLA administration day after the day like we have been going after Dorrell for last five seasons.
And I understand your hope for civility, but don't complain about getting hit when you make a ridiculous and stupid comparison between the criticisms Coach Wood faced v. arguments we have made and presented against the current incompetent coaching staff. In doing so you make yourself look a fool, which doesn't jive with the good strong posts you first posted her eon BN.
by Nestor on
Oct 5, 2007 5:59 AM PDT
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No apologies from me
I watched former UCLA grads/players/CHAMPIONS(!!!) like Larry Farmer and Walt Hazzard - two men who lay more claim to UCLA greatness than Karl Dorrell could ever hope to claim - destroy our basketball tradition. It was people like Bruin95 with his attitude that got them their jobs and kept them in their jobs too long. Excuses such as "fans are being unrealistic" were borne from the Farmer and Hazzard years!! That particular excuse haunted us during the Lavin years and haunts us now with football.
So Bruin95 and his kind of attitude, in my opinion, need to be called out for their rose-colored "be positive" bullshit viewpoint so that we don't waste UCLA players and fans time and money on the mediocrity of Dorrell and Walker. As a Bruin alum and fan, I will only accept realistic terms in describing the unacceptable performance of a million dollar or $350K per year coach.
"Everyone has good and bad points, strengths and weaknesses ..." true. But this isn't Romper Room. It's big-time BIG PAYDAY college sports. If you take a $1,0000,0000 or $350,000 check for coaching a football team or its defense ... then take the effing criticism if you don't get the job done. And expect someone else to be offered the position if you don't get the job done. Fans who feel the need to protect the mediocre performances of these coaches for so many years deserve to be called out for it. Speak the truth and I have no problems.
by BruinCore on
Oct 4, 2007 4:41 PM PDT
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Polemics
by bruin95 on
Oct 4, 2007 5:10 PM PDT
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one more point
Sorry, this is job performance review ... and we are talking huge salaries and clear performance metrics. There is no room for sweet talk and "everyone has good and bad points." Are they getting the job done that they were hired to do?? The answer is clearly NO. So Im not going to waste my time or the efforts of thousands of Bruins on being nice to someone who wishes to give a coach a pass. Eff that. Too much is riding on all the efforts of so many to bring in a new coach should Dorrell et al not get the job done this year. If we allow Pollyannas to rule the day like they did with Donahue, Farmer, Hazzard, Lavin and now Dorrell, then we will lose the opportunity we have this year to affect change. So if Pollyannas come on here or anywhere with their sweet talk ... they are going to hear the truth ... no one cares about their feelings.
by BruinCore on
Oct 4, 2007 5:09 PM PDT
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Do you really think
I don't see this as "oh, no, now you're changing your mind!" "We've made it this far!" "Don't go back now!" "You can't support Walker now!" "It hurts our cause!" "Oh, no!" Seriously, guys. Walker has brought an improved attitude on defense and brought a defensive perspective. I respect the way he conducts himself. He's a professional. Dorrell isn't. Dorrell is in over his head.
Now if I have a little respect for Walker's competitiveness in stark contrast to Dorrell's, does that really make me a naive, misguided optimist or Pollyanna(good word btw). Let's pull ourselves away for a minute. Dorrell's offense sucks and so does he as a head coach. Me giving some props to Walker because I read that article and liked what he said doesn't impede your efforts.
It's just a little optimism, guys, no worries. Peace, let's move on.
by bruin95 on
Oct 4, 2007 5:35 PM PDT
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It just gets tiring
The problem with this particular one is that there was never a counterbalancing article that asked Walker WHAT THE EFF HAPPENED AT UTAH? AGAINST FLORIDA STATE? Why do we have to be subjected to these fluff pieces when they don't even take the time to explain to us one of the worst losses in the history of UCLA football? Why isn't anyone taking the time to ask Walker a simple question: why can't you stop the spread offense? It is disingenuous, disrespectful and reeks of propaganda.
It has become a sad moment in history when we praise somoneone for taking the blame for something they did wrong. When you are coaching 19 year olds, shouldn't you ALWAYS be doing that? Shouldn't it be a given? I am sick and tired of having to give "props" to someone just because they are doing their jobs. Every last lazy mediocre bum is getting a sense of entitlement these days, from the waiters who get pissed for not getting a 20% tip to the defensive coordinator who wants props for having his team play defense. Enough already. Do something great, overachieve, and you will get props. No more props for just doing your job. That is the epitome of embracing mediocrity.
by tasser10 on
Oct 5, 2007 8:06 AM PDT
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Agree
In the same vein, there are Bruin fans who have been subjected to KD's mediocrity for so long that they and KD begin to embrace the same standards.
by bluegold on
Oct 5, 2007 8:50 AM PDT
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No matter how you slice and dice it...
- Walker has yet to shut down a good offense, because we haven't played one.
- He gave up 44 to a mediocre offense.
by bluegold on Oct 3, 2007 7:56 PM PDT 0 recs
44 in the Nut Bowl, Too
We've played weak teams and our pass D ranks 100th in the country.
That's not the shut down D we've been promised.
by Class of 66 on
Oct 3, 2007 8:00 PM PDT
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Maybe I'm being picky, but . . .
"One thing I've learned about attitude, at least with these guys, you've got to keep the thumb on them," Walker said.
So, apparently, our guys have an attitude problem. Fine - but how about keeping that within the family? He could have just said, "My job is to keep the team's attitude in the right place.
by Telemachus on Oct 3, 2007 8:58 PM PDT 0 recs
yep, excellent point
by BruinCore on
Oct 4, 2007 8:44 AM PDT
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Comment on the LAT article
Pretty amazing that Chris Foster, the author of the article on Walker and the defense, seemed to forget about the Utah game.
by Barnes2JJ on Oct 3, 2007 10:26 PM PDT 0 recs
I'll say this much about the D
Walker hasn't proven anything to me yet because the defense is inconsistent from game to game (although not as inconsistent as the offense).
Quite simply, and I will say it over and over and over, I have seen no evidence whatsoever that any of our coaches are Ready for Prime Time. Their record does not support it.
by Barnes2JJ on Oct 3, 2007 10:45 PM PDT 0 recs
My take on Walker
by ryebreadraz on Oct 3, 2007 11:37 PM PDT 0 recs
The defense is better than the offense by far
The defense definitely has shown that it can get better as the season progresses, though. Unlike our joke of an offense. Also, I've said it before and will say it again; when the offense goes three and out over an over and the defense is given a short field to defend things aren't always going to good.
There are absolutely no excuses for the utah game. Ultimately that falls on the head coach. The players were uninspired and played with no enthusiasm. I believe that falls entirely on the head coach.
The defense can get better, and I for one believe they will get better as the season goes on. The bye week will benefit them most as they will get to rest a little before the Cal game.
by FullertonBruin on Oct 4, 2007 11:10 AM PDT 0 recs
I have yet to decide about Walker
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/drivechart?gameId=272580254.
This shows that of Utah's 15 drives, on 9 of them, they were held to less than 10 yards. Of those 9 drives, Utah scored 16 points (3 FGs and a TD) on 4 of the possessions. I would say it is difficult to blame the defense in those cases.
However, they had 4 drives which went for 50 yards or more (all of which resulted in TDs), which could be considered the defense's fault (and one of these was a 53-yard pass for TD). On top of that, 2 of those were in the first half (so you can take out the argument that it was because they were tired).
So, you could say that Walker's defense really gave up 28 points in this game (which is still too many, but not as bad as 44).
Some may find this post to be useless, but I think it shows that either side has a case, here. Since I started at UCLA in 1994, I think there were only 1 or 2 years that UCLA had a good defense (that I can remember), so I guess for me, this is an improvement over years past. Don't get me wrong, I'm not satisfied with the defense now, but it is a hell of a lot better than I remember it.
by uclawarren on Oct 4, 2007 1:23 PM PDT 0 recs
Another Way to Look at Those ESPN Numbers
386 Yards
264 Yards Passing
13.9 Yards/Completed Pass
And, this is against a shitty team.
Sorry, I can't buy into Walker on those ESPN numbers.
by Class of 66 on
Oct 4, 2007 4:34 PM PDT
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Warren, There's Cool Stuff on that Site
398 yards Total O
346 yards Passing
BYU
435 Total Yards
391 Passing
13 Yards/Completed Pass
Washington
340 Total Yards
216 Passing
12.7 Yards/Completed Pass
Oregen State Perhaps the Worst Quarterback we will face. A better game for the D, but nothing to mouth off about.
Total Yards 248
Passing 146
Completion Rate: 67% (I'm stunned by this stat. Watching the game, I didn't think he did anything right.)
Anyway, so far -- Playing the Little Sisters of Charity -- I don't see anything in our D that will make me praise Walker as a great DC.
I'd love to see the D play the way it played for most of the ND game last year.
I truly hope we show progress, turn the corner, act like disciplined resources, shut our mouths and play D. I want to win out. I want that Pac 10 Championship.
I do like Walker's intensity and enthusiasm.
But, he has not always been the "stand up guy" the LA Times portrays. As noted in many posts on this site, he's thrown his share of players under the bus, too.
I'm with Nestor and a lot of people around here. If we don't win out, win the Pac 10 Championship, meet the pre-season goals that EVERYONE in the press, coaching fraternity and even this athletic department thought were realistic, it will be time for a clean sweep.
by Class of 66 on
Oct 4, 2007 4:56 PM PDT
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Let the Next Head Coach Decide
by Bruin77 on Oct 4, 2007 5:25 PM PDT 0 recs
I'm with Bruin 77
by OutOThsWrld on Oct 4, 2007 9:12 PM PDT 0 recs
















