T shirt idea

by dokein on Oct 9, 2007 7:23 PM PDT

I realize that DumpDorrell.com already has a campaign going off, and it is very hopefully going to be successful with the media and in accomplishing the goal of getting KD fired. I'll definitely join in.

That being said, there is something about the slogan that is not altogether greatly appealing to me. I don't know what everyone else thinks, but I wouldn't mind wearing a t-shirt that had four large letters:

"F.U.K.D."

KD stands for Karl Dorrell, obviously. FU I am not sure is necessary to explain.

That being said, two separate slogans might detract more than help the campaign. And I do like the irrefutability of the cold solid fact: #4.

Another thing is to start a petition that requires a ucla or ucla alumni email to sign. While this may not garner as many signatures as a normal participation, it may help attract media attention because it is signed by ucla students / alumni only.

I don't know, this diary is a bit stupid and rambling but I am just deflated about the state of our program. Even if someone had no previous football experience (watching or playing), I would guess that playing Madden 2007 on an xbox for two days would teach you to make better calls and adjustments.

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of BruinsNation's (BN) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of BN's editors.

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no need to get obscene, the facts work much better imo.

by ranelar on Oct 9, 2007 7:30 PM PDT reply actions

You're probably right

I just couldn't think of anything else that would have a double meaning: e.g. both "FU, KD", and "F---ked".

by dokein on Oct 9, 2007 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions

Clever

But, yes, unnecessarily obscene.

by SuperBruinMan on Oct 9, 2007 7:35 PM PDT reply actions

From a Geezer

It's much much more clever if it's not obscene. Take a look at some lines from Sir Winston. He delivered oratorical knock-outs with no obscenity. I suspect his wit and wisdom will be around longer than Howard Stern's.

by Fox 71 on Oct 9, 2007 7:47 PM PDT reply actions

You're absolutely right of course

I was just thinking about the SUC t-shirts ... but I'm no Oliver Wendell Holmes.

Oh well, no harm done.

(This is why I'm not trying to be the English Department Chair. Maybe KD should take some notes on being in a field where his strengths are used, e.g. not coaching)

by dokein on Oct 9, 2007 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions

I don't know about advertising the fact that KD

is 4th. Is he really that good? I thought that our average was much worse than that. Is 6-7 and 6-6 and 7-6 and 10-2 and 4-2 going on 6-6 really good enough to average 4th in the Pac-10? Our 10-2 year we finished 3rd so I don't know how that combined with our other years are as high as fourth. I think it kind of promotes KD a little bit. My initial reacton was, "What, he's finished that high? You mean only stalwarts Cal, suc, and maybe Oregon have finished higher." That kind of implies he's mediocre when in fact he's beyond terrible. We've never been to a Holiday Bowl and during KD's tenure Washington State beat Texas in one so i'd say they've been more successful than us over the last four years. Oregon State won a Sun Bowl so they're just as good as we've been over the last four years. Arizona State after this year will have had more success than any KD team. The only teams we've been better than IMO are Arizona and Stanford and the Indians I mean Cardinal are on the rise baby

I think F.U.K.D works. It kind of reminds me of F.C.U.K and that's a prestigious clothing company so it's not as juvenile as people may think. It's short simple and is a nice little double entendre of we're screwed and screw Dorrell.

by Dorrellian on Oct 9, 2007 9:25 PM PDT reply actions

You might attract the key 18 to 49

demographic, but I still think obscenity and gangsterisms (that's gangster, not gangsta) don't reflect a UCLA education. I would expect obscenity from justsc because they are, in a word, obscene. But not from a Bruin.

Geezers, of course, are in the minority by definition. But I didn't think obscenity was cute even when I was a kid (i.e., younger than 49.) To me, it means that you are witty enough to come up with something better. It's the Romper Room response - "Oh yeah, well &%*#@ you."

OK, end of rant.

by Fox 71 on Oct 9, 2007 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions

The founding fathers were gangsta

Ever read the constitution?

"We tha People of tha United States, in Orda ta fizzle a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquilizzle provide fo` tha common defense, promote tha general Welfare, n secure tha Frontin' of Liberty ta ourselves n our Posterizzles do ordain n establish this Constitizzles fo` tha United States of America , ya feel me?."

by SuperBruinMan on Oct 9, 2007 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions

Cumulatively, it is true

Entering the '07 season, in the Dorrell era (2003-06) UCLA was 4th overall in Pac-10 conference games (19-14 in conference; Oregon was 20-13, Oregon State was 18-15). Looking at overall records, UCLA was 5th (behind Oregon State in this case). Looking at the year-by-year records, it seems that many teams have had 1 or 2 strong years (example - 6 different Pac-10 teams have won 10+ games in a season at least once since KD took over), but flamed out in the other years. UCLA, on the other hand, has been consistently mediocre.

I believe the overall conference record indicates an average season = Las Vegas Bowl.

by bruinhoo on Oct 9, 2007 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions

Sophmore humor

and by that I mean Sophmore in High school.

by True Blue and Gold on Oct 9, 2007 9:52 PM PDT reply actions

1st year spelling ...

... and by that I mean 1st year of elementary school.

Seriously though, I acknowledged that it was juvenile in the actual post (see: "a bit stupid"). I was just throwing the idea out, and I appreciate and agree with the honest opinions of the posters above. The only justification was the double meaning of the four letters.

So there is really no need for insults.

by dokein on Oct 9, 2007 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions

Addendum

By the way, looking briefly through YOUR comment history:

"F mediocrity (Weak Coast Offense)
and its leader Dorrell. I'm so sick of this.
oh and Fuck Bush and Carroll."

I acknowledge the difference between complaining on a forum and a public t-shirt. However, the language in your comment demonstrates the EMOTIONAL frustration with the team, which expletives are usually used to express.

Does that comment make you juvenile automatically due to cursing? I would argue not. Does having an implied double-entendre curse make the T-shirt juvenile? Possibly. Was your sophomore insult juvenile? Absolutely.

by dokein on Oct 9, 2007 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions

No obscenity, or anything close to it

Near obscenities just hurt our cause to those that aren't already on our side.

The people on the fence don't want to identify with vulgarity.

by gilbert on Oct 9, 2007 10:44 PM PDT reply actions

May I suggest this?

P.U.N.K.D

Putting
Us
Nowhere:
Karl
Dorrell.

WHY NOT US? WHY NOT NOW?

by Meriones on Oct 10, 2007 9:10 AM PDT reply actions

I think you meant to say...

PUNTING us nowhere.

by UCngLA on Oct 11, 2007 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions

FU Karl Tour

I still like the idea floated a while back for the farewell tour for Karl's last season. Each campus at away games would hold mini-roasts of Karl: talking about what Karl has meant for their team in terms of easy wins; favorite Karl gaffs, favorite Karl quotes, etc.

Again, the tour would be called the "FU KARL Tour", which stands for "Farewell from the University Karl". T-shirts would be a natural memento from each tour stop.

by Koach Karl I on Oct 10, 2007 10:43 AM PDT reply actions

I like it a lot

but the "FU" will turn a lot of people off, including the media.

Otherwise, I think it's a great idea.

by Barnes2JJ on Oct 10, 2007 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions

Or this

Just (or Pretty)
Useless
Karl
Dorrell

by tasser10 on Oct 10, 2007 10:48 AM PDT reply actions

Way back when

I think it was in 1965 that the DB got in gigantic hot water by putting up a headline about wanting the Chancellor, Clark Kerr, to allow more freedom of expression on campus to the Free Speech Movement guys, Angela Davis, etc. Anyway, their headline was "FREEDOM UNDER CLARK KERR."

That was deemed unacceptable in 1965.

Times have changed, and I am sure that I will to explain it to some.

I think the "Farewell Tour" is a clever idea. But there is no need to expand the basic parody at all. Just make a T-shirt with the schedule on it, and whatever else gets put on those kinds of shirts. In my opinion, the joke is just as good without any acronym at all. It would look like you're stretching to make a joke, and really, is any stretching necessary to make a joke about this football program?

by Fox 71 on Oct 10, 2007 1:15 PM PDT reply actions

KD "farewell tour" shirts

That sounds like a pretty good idea. Put this year's football schedule on the back, put a picture of Karl (or representative likeness) with the playsheet in his pants or wearing the sombrero on the front.

by bruinhoo on Oct 10, 2007 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions