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Is there any reason to keep this coaching staff
by bruinhawk on Nov 10, 2007 4:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I agree, three losses in a row
by Odysseus on Nov 10, 2007 4:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting stat
But KD loves his offense
by silverlakebruin on Nov 10, 2007 4:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Thet did score on that wonderful two play 1-yard
by bruinhawk on Nov 10, 2007 4:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Let the countdown begin
Magic number is 1.
by godblesstyus95 on Nov 10, 2007 4:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
that defense sure can celebrate
This team just doesn't get it. Please make it end. We need a coach that knows how to win and can teach that to his players.
by greatgymnasticschool on Nov 10, 2007 4:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
They can also celebrate stupid penalties
by bruinhawk on Nov 10, 2007 4:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree...
by Fedup on Nov 10, 2007 4:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In all seriousness
The offense was much better in the second half, but it still didn't score a td. I think if we had opened it up earlier, something would have worked.
But KD coached fearfully again, trying to minimize mistakes instead of maximize opportunities.
by silverlakebruin on Nov 10, 2007 4:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Change "13 point lead" to
by silverlakebruin on Nov 10, 2007 4:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Too afraid to play to win with an inexperienced
by bruinhawk on Nov 10, 2007 4:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
all the games are winnable
by greatgymnasticschool on Nov 10, 2007 4:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
You forgot about the awesome1 yard two play
by bruinhawk on Nov 10, 2007 4:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
On a related note...
by Fedup on Nov 10, 2007 4:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Not even thanksgiving, but
by lostnacfgop on Nov 10, 2007 4:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
My only worry...
From SI.com a few minutes ago: "The injury-riddled Bruins (5-5, 4-3) lost for the fourth time in five games."
by Fedup on Nov 10, 2007 4:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yep
ASU is overrated and I fully expect them to lose at home to SUC next weekend.
by godblesstyus95 on Nov 10, 2007 4:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree with all that...
by Fedup on Nov 10, 2007 4:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
DG isn't fooled (i hope)
by greatgymnasticschool on Nov 10, 2007 4:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
He should be fired
by Tommy Bruin on Nov 10, 2007 4:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Amen to that...
by Fedup on Nov 10, 2007 4:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Notre Dame
Do you remember who Notre Dame beat this season?
If that isn't a good enough reason to get rid of Dorrell, then I don't know what is.
And if Guerrero needs this much evidence ('07 season) to show how bad the coaching is for the Bruins Football Team, he is either blind or a puppet.
I don't know which is worse, being blind or being someone's fetch it boy?
Yeah, I'm bitter now.
by BillM85Legacy on Nov 10, 2007 4:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
It is embarassing to think we could only score
Even Army is likely to beat Notre Dame.
WE ARE PATHETIC!
by bruinhawk on Nov 10, 2007 5:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
AFA Put Up 44
..should be a battle of titans when they meet. I want to preserve the streak and will be rooting for Duke, of course..
..aside from the fact that I hate Notre Dame almost more than I despise USC!
by whp68 on Nov 10, 2007 9:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But just LOOK what we have to look forward to now!
Soon-to-be #2 Oregon comes to town in two weeks, and yes, it's another Classic Karl Dorrell "CHANCE TO PLAY THE SPOILER" role! Can I get a Hoo-rah!? Maybe we can storm the field and tear down the goal posts and cheer like it's New Year's Day like all those third-rate schools do when they produce a big upset.
Upsetting indeed. How could it come to this?????
by Fedup on Nov 10, 2007 4:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
quite frankly, I don't care anymore
Exactly one.
So, excuse me if I cannot muster any outrage or anger. We all went in expecting this team to have the ability to win the Pac-10 and IMO they certainly do. But it's another mediocre season of UCLA football, and I am just ready for it to all be over. There's no point to getting angry or frustrated or riled up over these games at this point.
by njbruin on Nov 10, 2007 4:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
We can stil be bowl eligible!
by Ajax on Nov 10, 2007 5:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
P:LEASE - Do you really want to extend our stay
A bowl game, ONLY if we stun the Ducks or TrOJans and get another win, only if it doesn't include Coach Toast who should be Toledoed and have Ed Kazarian coach the bowl game.
by bruinhawk on Nov 10, 2007 5:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ASU tried to hand KD a win on a platter
ASU looked like a very ordinary and beatable team.
by bluegold on Nov 10, 2007 5:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
A primer for KD
"I've probably learned more from these guys (players) than they have from me, and I think that's the way it should be as a manager. When things are going rough, you should get out front and take the hit. And, when they're going good, you should stay the hell out of the way. It's all about the players. These are the guys that are doing it."
Somehow, though, I expect to hear about failures to execute, inexperienced QBs, injuries, ...
Just trying to help.
by TDBruins on Nov 10, 2007 5:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Nice Quote
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 10, 2007 5:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My bad
by TDBruins on Nov 10, 2007 6:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Got it
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 10, 2007 6:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fire the ENTIRE STAFF TODAY!
Let Ed Kezirian come back to coach for the final two games... it would be better than what we have now. Injuries or no injuries... This season (the last five) was a COMPLETE waste of our time as Alums.
This sucks. Turn the page now and let's start the search.
by wsmontano1994 on Nov 10, 2007 6:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
.500 ball
= Terry Donahue
by BruinCore on Nov 10, 2007 6:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I actually had some hope during this game
sigh. i want us to win yet lose. it's so hard to root against the bruins, but if we win KD sticks around. thankfully the latter part of that sentence will be taken care of shortly!
by freesia39 on Nov 10, 2007 6:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
But what about....
by bb41 on Nov 10, 2007 6:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I love the way we played with passion today
Beat heavily favored Stratford. 21-7.
Can you believe a 7 play goal line stand (held on 4th and 1 foot only to commit a penalty and give them 4 more downs).
How did they win? They were well coached on both sides of the ball. They played as a team, were consistent, didn't get penalized in key situations.
Then I came home and watched my tape of the Bruin game.
I'll take Texas HS football any time.
by Class of 66 on Nov 10, 2007 6:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I would say
by melliott2 on Nov 10, 2007 7:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I don't care if Bruce Davis is our best player
by SuperBruinMan on Nov 10, 2007 7:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Stick a fork in it,
by kdout on Nov 10, 2007 7:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
His throw could never have reached the endzone
by SuperBruinMan on Nov 10, 2007 7:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure, absolutely
by Fox 71 on Nov 10, 2007 8:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
IIRC, this is the SIXTH time...
SIXTH.
M
by Meriones on Nov 10, 2007 7:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
From Dohn...
Q: If the season was over today (with UCLA 5-3), do you think Karl Dorrell would be fired?
A: No. How do fire a guy who is in second place in one of the tougher conferences in the country?
Before this week
Q: If the season was over today (with UCLA 5-4) would Dorrell get fired?
A: I do not know, nor do I care. I don't deal in hypotheticals like that.
by SuperBruinMan on Nov 10, 2007 7:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Dohn Doesn't Deal in Hypotheticals? BS
The "injury excuse" is based upon a hypothetical -- that the team would play better if the injured players were healthy enough to play. Empirically, we know that is not true. We sucked when the injured players played.
Dohn's calling for giving KD "more time" is based on a hypothetical -- that as KD has more time on the job he becomes a better coach. The empirical data proves that assumption false.
Dohn doesn't quite get it. He's dealing with an audience that has been educated by one of the nation's great universities. We know what a hypothetical is. And, we know the difference between assumptions and facts.
Don't bring that weak shit into our house.
by Class of 66 on Nov 10, 2007 8:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nailed it
by Sc is full of scumbags on Nov 10, 2007 10:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, where did Dohn go to school?
by Chandler on Nov 11, 2007 3:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The performance of this team and it's coaches...
that's all I have today
that's all I have to say
by bruin80 on Nov 10, 2007 7:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
This was a key loss
In addition, the MSM in the next 2 weeks won't be talking about "controlling own destiny" or "bowl eligibility", rather the focus should solely be on Dorrell's future (or lack of it).
The timing will also be appropriate for DDs ad in the Daily Bruin.
If any loss can be categorized as a good loss, this was it.
by godblesstyus95 on Nov 10, 2007 7:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Updated for today's loss

What else is there to say?
by Telemachus on Nov 10, 2007 8:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
He's done...
by bruinthug98 on Nov 10, 2007 8:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Which one?
by Tommy Bruin on Nov 10, 2007 9:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Definitly Towel Guy - He's our only
He can finish off this sorry seaon for Coach Toast. Can't possibly do any worse.
by bruinhawk on Nov 10, 2007 10:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
why do people think
by greatgymnasticschool on Nov 11, 2007 8:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
because he has no ambition to be coach
the towel guy makes sure the players are eligible to play. gotta keep him around. plus he shows the most enthusiasm out there on the field.
by freesia39 on Nov 11, 2007 2:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
From what I gather
by Tydides on Nov 11, 2007 3:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
well it seems...
by greatgymnasticschool on Nov 11, 2007 4:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
By that token
But seriously, let's make sure we are smart about this transition. It makes sense to get rid of people who are underperforming. It doesn't make sense to get rid of people for your ego. It should be noted that if he was the guy that presided over the bowl win after Toledo was fired, then that means he was part of Toledo's staff as well, or more accurately, he is a part of no one's staff. He works for Morgan Center. If you can live with terminating a guy who has satisfied his job requirements, then go ahead and call for his head, but I can't in good conscience do the same until I hear that our players are having trouble staying academically eligible, because that is his job.
by Tydides on Nov 11, 2007 6:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ed Kezirian aka Towel Guy
There is actually a Wikipedia entry for Kezirian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Kezirian
by Tommy Bruin on Nov 11, 2007 7:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's been on the staff for 28 years
by SuperBruinMan on Nov 11, 2007 7:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How many other schools
Is Tom Osborne at Nebraska sobbing to the press about how hard it is on Bill Callahan? No. He's calling it like it is - the results are not there, he's gone.
by greatgymnasticschool on Nov 11, 2007 9:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But
by SuperBruinMan on Nov 11, 2007 9:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just not seeing the need
If he has "ties" to Donahue, then he also has "ties" to Pepper Rodgers, Toledo, and sadly, the Doofus, so I don't see that as a line of reasoning that leads to us getting rid of him. What's the point in getting rid of KD if we are going to be rash? If we are so lazy as to be unwilling to evaluate the performance of individuals, then that obviously doesn't bode well for the search for our next coach does it? That's the kind of attitude that got KD on our "short list" the last time around.
by Tydides on Nov 11, 2007 9:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Proper CTSectomy procedures
Remember that a CTSectomy can sometimes cause the operating surgeon to try to remove too much diseased tissue too quickly. Not all tissue surrounding the tumor is infected with loser-itis. Some of that tissue is valuable to support the remaining healthy body. It is not always necessary, for example, to remove a towel."
That's what it said in my medical textbook, FWIW.
by Fox 71 on Nov 12, 2007 4:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fine...
by greatgymnasticschool on Nov 12, 2007 8:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
DORRELLECTOMY
by Tommy Bruin on Nov 10, 2007 9:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Please! no buring everything he's touched -
by bruinhawk on Nov 10, 2007 10:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The last play...
by lil eg not cs on Nov 10, 2007 10:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Fire Dorrell
by joeb on Nov 10, 2007 11:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Bruce Davis
by TruBruin on Nov 10, 2007 11:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Fjor those of you blaming Davis...
by Gary72 on Nov 10, 2007 11:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
They both should be blamed
by SuperBruinMan on Nov 11, 2007 12:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Please excuse the spelling errors,
by Gary72 on Nov 10, 2007 11:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
No Neuheisel
by TruBruin on Nov 10, 2007 11:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Neuheisel = trouble
by NickBruin on Nov 11, 2007 7:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not Blaming Davis
He is a classless moron who talks a better game than he plays. If Dorrell weeded out the Jerkoffs
when he got here why is this guy here. By the way Mr. Shut-down corner (Trey Brown) is another classless blowhard who talks a better game as well. Glad to see these A-Holes will be leaving with Dorrell!!!
by TruBruin on Nov 10, 2007 11:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
wow
by hbruin84 on Nov 11, 2007 12:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i agree
by bruinthug98 on Nov 11, 2007 1:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
He is a great player who had been held and then hit after the whistle.
"Pay Back" may be stupid, but explainable.
Bruce Davis is truly a great athlete who tries to fire up his team. With the right coach, he'd be able to take a step back and just play. He doesn't have that coach.
I feel the same way about Trey Brown.
Both guys are trying to bring passion and confidence to a team that has no confidence in its coaching staff.
I am sorry, for both of them, that they never got to play for a real coach.
by Class of 66 on Nov 11, 2007 7:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Help request to Fox71
I need you inscrutable mind to discern the coaching logic today. At a critical juncture of the game, Breazell makes a great pass to a wide open WALK-ON, who I personally had not heard his name before and the announcers as well commented. Why would any coach put a walk-on in that situation where the game was on the line? Is there no scholarship football player on the bench or elsewhere who could have been in that field location to catch the ball and run in for a TD, perhaps? It appeared to me as if someone said, "Let's give so-and-so a chance to learn and grow", so put him into the game and maybe, one in a hundred, be able to make the play. Of course, since he hasn't been playing, he may be so wide open he may have hands of steel and his head may be looking way up field as the ball comes his way, but what the hell, let's give him the chance. After the play, the shot of him standing on the sidelines looking mortified says it all. Tell us all Fox71, what is behind the coaching minds at work here?
RE: Bruce Davis and the penalty just before half time. He is a force to be reckoned with as we all know. However, if I am the opposing coaching staff, the word would be that he does have a short fuse, so double and triple team him and eventually, he will get through and the chances of him roughing the passer are good. It couldn't have worked out better for ASU yesterday as the half was over with UCLA in control, and that one play changed the momentum going into the locker room, put ASU up by 4, so instead of the obligatory Dorrell led FG strategy to win the game at the end, they had to get a TD, etc.
Bill
by Mensgym on Nov 11, 2007 6:55 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Re: your comment on BD
by silverlakebruin on Nov 11, 2007 7:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
meadows...
by hbruin84 on Nov 11, 2007 8:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Meadows
Bill
by Mensgym on Nov 11, 2007 3:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you, Bill, for showing confidence in me
I have summoned all my powers, and have discovered the reasons, and there are several.
We have no returning starters or seniors on the team, so there is no leadership. No, wait ....
Our starting QB at the beginning of the year was not the most sought-after QB in the country when he was in high school. He also could not throw a long pass to save his life, so we designed an offense to take advantage of his skill at looking at one or two or three or more receivers before choosing where to thrown the ball. No, wait a minute ....
We made sure that we had an offensive line that was impregnable, allowing the QB as much time as necessary to throw the ball, and if necessary, to shoot a few commercials a la Peyton Manning. Uh, wait ....
We made sure our defense was perfectly attuned to what the other team was doing, and we especially focused on stopping the spread, which had been our nemesis in the past. Er, ah, no ....
And we tried a difficult schedule. Ah, um, ....
OK, how's this: our coach is stupid.
Thank you for giving me the opportunity to assist.
by Fox 71 on Nov 11, 2007 11:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
About Meadows...
by SuperBruinMan on Nov 11, 2007 2:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Davis Comment
"I was pretty shocked," he said. "He throws the ball. I take a step and hit him.... The side judge had been on me from the get-go. Who knowss...whatever... they made their call."
Well, A) from every TV angle, it looked like a late hit, and B) why take such a shot on a Hail Mary pass, especially on a guy who's alone in front of the ref on the last play of the half?
I don't know where to begin on that one. Lack of contextual decision making from a guy who should know better. And yes, it was a momentum shifter.
by Fedup on Nov 11, 2007 7:58 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
But, to offer a retort to my own post
And thus, we again come back to coaching: I would hope someone on the sidelines was alert enough to point this out to BD, pull him aside, cool him down, warn him about getting lured into making a silly mistake, point out that by taking on double and triple teams he WAS in fact enabling others to get to Carpenter... something that would assume awareness of game strategy. Anything!
Davis is a stud who gives every ounce of effort he has. It is a shame he has to play under these circumstances.
And on a side note, If I'm Oregon and $UC, I'm watching all this on film and pulling the exact same strategy.
by Fedup on Nov 11, 2007 8:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Adjustments
Davis shouldn't have done what he did - but it's got to be frustrating for a guy that's playing hard on every down to see game after game mismanaged away, to see himself going up against a brick wall every play with no adjustments from the coaches, and he was getting hit late with no call from the officials. The coaches should have seen that too. If we had real coaches, they would be able to deal with Davis - his comments to the press, his short fuse. He's a good player who does have weaknesses.
by Tommy Bruin on Nov 11, 2007 8:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good point....
We seem to get screwed by the officials even when we're at home (that no call pass interfernce?)... where's the screaming? The arm-flailing? the charging onto the field or up and down the sideline? All we get is the stone-faced stoic who absorbs all these horseshit calls with quiet dignity and grace.
by Fedup on Nov 11, 2007 9:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Markey/Ramirez/Meadows
- Why did Markey play in the second half? If he wasn't healthy enough to start, how is he suddenly healthy enough to go in the second half?
- Ramirez played on special teams (KO coverage) so I presume he was healthy but didn't get any plays at RB. Even after Sheppard was injured and Markey was proven to be completely ineffective.
- Meadows... I really hate to pick on a walk-on. But why on earth is a walk-on cornerback even being given looks on offense when he's dropping the ball in practice? Turner and Graves are equally unknown/unused (thus being good decoys) but are at least supposedly getting reps in practice at WR.
by GoneRacin on Nov 11, 2007 9:06 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

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