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Is there any reason to keep this coaching staff
now.  THe players could do just as well themselves coming up with their own plays the next two weeks.

by bruinhawk on Nov 10, 2007 4:00 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I agree, three losses in a row
justifies immediate termination.  Unfortunately, I don't think it will happen.  Let's hope that the M&M clowns don't blow it.

by Odysseus on Nov 10, 2007 4:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting stat
This is the third game this season where the offense hasn't scored a touchdown.

But KD loves his offense

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 10, 2007 4:01 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Thet did score on that wonderful two play 1-yard
drive.  The longest TD scoring drive of the game. Wait, it was the ONLY Bruin TD drive of the game.

by bruinhawk on Nov 10, 2007 4:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Let the countdown begin
at least we no longer have to hear any more BS about controlling our own destiny. I beleive we're mathematically eliminated with 3 losses and ASU only 1.

Magic number is 1.

"If I don't do my job, I will get fired" -Karl Dorrell

by godblesstyus95 on Nov 10, 2007 4:02 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

that defense sure can celebrate
What a classy group on KD's classy team.  Every time they make a tackle it's flexing and strutting, nodding and shaking a finger... wonder what they'd do if they ever won a game.  

This team just doesn't get it.  Please make it end.    We need a coach that knows how to win and can teach that to his players.

by greatgymnasticschool on Nov 10, 2007 4:03 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

They can also celebrate stupid penalties
tat kept ASU drives alive.  Poor discipline.

by bruinhawk on Nov 10, 2007 4:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree...
I'm all for excitement and enthusiasm after making a huge play, but c'mon... act like you've been there before.

by Fedup on Nov 10, 2007 4:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

In all seriousness
This game was winnable, if KD had not decided to nurse a 13 point lead in the first half. KD is uber conservative until he falls behind, then opens up the playbook.

The offense was much better in the second half, but it still didn't score a td. I think if we had opened it up earlier, something would have worked.

But KD coached fearfully again, trying to minimize mistakes instead of maximize opportunities.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 10, 2007 4:03 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Change "13 point lead" to
13 points of offense
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 10, 2007 4:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Too afraid to play to win with an inexperienced
OR.  Serves Coach Toast right for keeping OR on the bench for 2+ years.

by bruinhawk on Nov 10, 2007 4:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

all the games are winnable
They just never get it done.  The offense didn't even come close to scoring a TD.  I'm not sure about this, but I think you need to score to win games.  ASU made a lot of mistakes which kept the game close -- but ultimately, I'm not sure UCLA believes it can win this kind of game.  That's why they drop passes and commit penalties and throw bad interceptions when it's on the line.  

by greatgymnasticschool on Nov 10, 2007 4:06 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

You forgot about the awesome1 yard two play
time consuming long drive in the 1st quarter.

by bruinhawk on Nov 10, 2007 4:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

On a related note...
SC's hoops team just lost their opener - at home - against Mercer, whoever the hell that is.  

by Fedup on Nov 10, 2007 4:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

not bad!
USC had better accentuate the positive or come rain or come shine, the days of wine and roses will be over.

by ucladj89 on Nov 10, 2007 5:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not even thanksgiving, but
my turkey's done early.  It's dry, tasteless and boring, too.  Kinda like Mr. Excitement's offense.  C'mon Guerrero, we need the early Xmas present.  sh*tcan him now.
The Mad Bruin

by lostnacfgop on Nov 10, 2007 4:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

My only worry...
The MSM continues to point out our injuries, as if THAT's the only reason we've had some "unfortunate" losses this year. They want so much to twang the old sympathy violin for CTS.

From SI.com a few minutes ago: "The injury-riddled Bruins (5-5, 4-3) lost for the fourth time in five games."

by Fedup on Nov 10, 2007 4:25 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yep
Expect to hear some of the "moral victory" crap too, how we kept it close to the #9 team in the country with our 3rd string QB.

ASU is overrated and I fully expect them to lose at home to SUC next weekend.

"If I don't do my job, I will get fired" -Karl Dorrell

by godblesstyus95 on Nov 10, 2007 4:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Agree with all that...
Plenty of teams have faced the injury bug. And kept winning... Oregon lost most of their receivers, you didn't see them losing to at team that's now 1-9. At home.

by Fedup on Nov 10, 2007 4:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

DG isn't fooled (i hope)
The games are close enough to show that a good coach can win them.

by greatgymnasticschool on Nov 10, 2007 4:27 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

He should be fired
just for having kept OR on the bench for the last 2 years.  Think we might have beat Notre Dame with OR?  Only two more losses to go until we start the healing process.

by Tommy Bruin on Nov 10, 2007 4:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Amen to that...
Serenity now.... serenity now. Someday this will all seem like a bad dream.

by Fedup on Nov 10, 2007 4:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Notre Dame
Notre Dame has only won 1 game with 9 losses.

Do you remember who Notre Dame beat this season?

If that isn't a good enough reason to get rid of Dorrell, then I don't know what is.

And if Guerrero needs this much evidence ('07 season) to show how bad the coaching is for the Bruins Football Team, he is either blind or a puppet.

I don't know which is worse, being blind or being someone's fetch it boy?

Yeah, I'm bitter now.

by BillM85Legacy on Nov 10, 2007 4:34 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

It is embarassing to think we could only score
only 6 points on them.  They gave up 48 to Navy who hadn't beat Notre Dame since '63.  AND NAVY survives a wild one today against North Texas - beatin them 72 - 64 IN REGULATION!!

Even Army is likely to beat Notre Dame.

WE ARE PATHETIC!

by bruinhawk on Nov 10, 2007 5:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

AFA Put Up 44
The Air Force beat ND 41-24; It looks like Army will  beat ND but the last game on their schedule is Duke who also lost today to Georgia Tech, 41-24 and is 1-9 like Notre Dame.


..should be a battle of titans when they meet. I want to preserve the streak and will be rooting for Duke, of course..

..aside from the fact that I hate Notre Dame almost more than I despise USC!

by whp68 on Nov 10, 2007 9:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But just LOOK what we have to look forward to now!
So despite being destined to win the Pac 10 and finish with a top 5 ranking (not unreasonable expectations considering we had 20 returning starters), despite some of the most horrific, unbearable, crushing losses in memory, and despite being officially out of anything other than the Charmin Snot Bowl...

Soon-to-be #2 Oregon comes to town in two weeks, and yes, it's another Classic Karl Dorrell "CHANCE TO PLAY THE SPOILER" role! Can I get a Hoo-rah!? Maybe we can storm the field and tear down the goal posts and cheer like it's New Year's Day like all those third-rate schools do when they produce a big upset.

Upsetting indeed. How could it come to this?????

by Fedup on Nov 10, 2007 4:47 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

quite frankly, I don't care anymore
UCLA came out and was soft, sloppy, unfocused, and error-prone. How many games have there been in Karl Dorrell's tenure where they have not come out soft, sloppy, unfocused, and error-prone?

Exactly one.

So, excuse me if I cannot muster any outrage or anger. We all went in expecting this team to have the ability to win the Pac-10 and IMO they certainly do. But it's another mediocre season of UCLA football, and I am just ready for it to all be over. There's no point to getting angry or frustrated or riled up over these games at this point.  

by njbruin on Nov 10, 2007 4:50 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

We can stil be bowl eligible!
Maybe KD will make some new bracelets for the guys?

by Ajax on Nov 10, 2007 5:13 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

P:LEASE - Do you really want to extend our stay
in purgatory by another 3 weeks?  

A bowl game, ONLY if we stun the Ducks or TrOJans and get another win, only if it doesn't include Coach Toast who should be Toledoed and have Ed Kazarian coach the bowl game.

by bruinhawk on Nov 10, 2007 5:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

ASU tried to hand KD a win on a platter
but he dropped the platter.

ASU looked like a very ordinary and beatable team.

by bluegold on Nov 10, 2007 5:17 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

A primer for KD
in how to act after a game. Not that it will have any effect, but I quote Eric Wedge, manager of the Colorado Rockies.

"I've probably learned more from these guys (players) than they have from me, and I think that's the way it should be as a manager. When things are going rough, you should get out front and take the hit. And, when they're going good, you should stay the hell out of the way. It's all about the players. These are the guys that are doing it."

Somehow, though, I expect to hear about failures to execute, inexperienced QBs, injuries, ...

Just trying to help.

by TDBruins on Nov 10, 2007 5:25 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Nice Quote
but Eric Wedge is the manager of the Indians. Clint Hurdle is the Rockies' Manager.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 10, 2007 5:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My bad
It was Wedge, not the Colo. mgr.

by TDBruins on Nov 10, 2007 6:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Got it
either way, still a great quote

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 10, 2007 6:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Fire the ENTIRE STAFF TODAY!
This game was winnable... End it now...

Let Ed Kezirian come back to coach for the final two games... it would be better than what we have now. Injuries or no injuries...  This season (the last five) was a COMPLETE waste of our time as Alums.

This sucks. Turn the page now and let's start the search.

W.S. Montano Class of 1994

by wsmontano1994 on Nov 10, 2007 6:01 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

.500 ball
I dont know what everyone is so upset about ... we are playing .500 ball!  We can go to a bowl game! Get behind your coach and your team.

= Terry Donahue

editor, DumpDorrell.com ... formerly posted as DumpDorrell

by BruinCore on Nov 10, 2007 6:02 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Dude
We are still a "factor in the Pac-10 race"!

by Nestor on Nov 10, 2007 6:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I actually had some hope during this game
we were staying relatively close, and then we just started doing stupid things, such as bruce davis' penalty.  

sigh.  i want us to win yet lose.  it's so hard to root against the bruins, but if we win KD sticks around.  thankfully the latter part of that sentence will be taken care of shortly!

by freesia39 on Nov 10, 2007 6:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

But what about....
all those injuries.  I mean look, we have to have a wide receiver as a QB and use a 3rd string tailback.  That's why we are so bad on offense!  Oh I forgot the Utah game when we had all our starters and we still go killed.  Or about how we have an offensive line that serves our Quarterbacks and Tailbacks up as smorgasbord.  And what about that great Bruin defense, that seems to play well every other half or every other game!
BB41

by bb41 on Nov 10, 2007 6:30 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I love the way we played with passion today
We being the Memorial High School Mustangs -- my daughter's school.

Beat heavily favored Stratford. 21-7.

Can you believe a 7 play goal line stand (held on 4th and 1 foot only to commit a penalty and give them 4 more downs).

How did they win? They were well coached on both sides of the ball. They played as a team, were consistent, didn't get penalized in key situations.

Then I came home and watched my tape of the Bruin game.

I'll take Texas HS football any time.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 10, 2007 6:46 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I would say
that much of the blame can be squarely placed at BD's feet. If he hadn't had that personal foul at the end of the first half, the game would have been one point, not four for the entire 4th quarter. Having to score a TD at the end as opposed to a FG would have (well, should have) changed the playcalling. Such as attempting a 53 yard field goal.

by melliott2 on Nov 10, 2007 7:02 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I don't care if Bruce Davis is our best player
That penalty at the end of the first half cost us the game.  Without that penalty, we would have been down 21-20 late with the ball on the ASU 28.  Knowing Dorrell, it would have been three runs up the gut and a FG for the 23-21 lead.  We also could have won if Dorrell had let Forbath try those 55 yard FGs.  Maybe he wouldn't have made them, but what do we gain from giving the ball back to the other team?

by SuperBruinMan on Nov 10, 2007 7:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Stick a fork in it,
it's over. You know the fat lady has sung when the final play of a team that 9 weeks ago had a shot at the national championship is one of sheer desperation,a sad attempt to mimic the final play of a JC team from a week ago.....pathetic....that picture of Tevaga throwing the ball over his head succicently captures exactly how low this team has sunk under the guidance of the "Thinker". That last play was down right embarassing, I would rather have OR throw the ball into the endzone for a desperation grab than that. Rest well tonight, Karl, after what you've done to our beloved Bruins over the last 5 years, you've certainly earned the right to sleep in tomorrow.

by kdout on Nov 10, 2007 7:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

His throw could never have reached the endzone
Rasshan did the right thing by running, and if Breazell had caught the lateral with Tevaga out in front instead of the other way round we could easily have won.

by SuperBruinMan on Nov 10, 2007 7:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sure, absolutely
And if we had scored touchdowns instead of field goals, we would have won.  And if we had run back a couple more kicks we would have won.  And he we had held them to fewer points than we got, we would have won.  And five years ago, if CTS had been told to go away until he had some experience, we would have had a different coach and would have won.

by Fox 71 on Nov 10, 2007 8:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

IIRC, this is the SIXTH time...
... in the past TWO seasons when we've lost a game where we had the lead at halftime.

SIXTH.

M

"Because I'm tired of it. Year after year after year after year having to choose between the lesser of 'Who cares?'"

by Meriones on Nov 10, 2007 7:32 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

From Dohn...
Before last week
Q: If the season was over today (with UCLA 5-3), do you think Karl Dorrell would be fired?
A: No. How do fire a guy who is in second place in one of the tougher conferences in the country?

Before this week
Q: If the season was over today (with UCLA 5-4) would Dorrell get fired?
A: I do not know, nor do I care. I don't deal in hypotheticals like that.

Link

by SuperBruinMan on Nov 10, 2007 7:48 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Dohn Doesn't Deal in Hypotheticals? BS
As one of the great apologists, Dohn doses out hypotheticals in every defense of KD.

The "injury excuse" is based upon a hypothetical -- that the team would play better if the injured players were healthy enough to play. Empirically, we know that is not true. We sucked when the injured players played.

Dohn's calling for giving KD "more time" is based on a hypothetical -- that as KD has more time on the job he becomes a better coach. The empirical data proves that assumption false.

Dohn doesn't quite get it. He's dealing with an audience that has been educated by one of the nation's great universities. We know what a hypothetical is. And, we know the difference between assumptions and facts.

Don't bring that weak shit into our house.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 10, 2007 8:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nailed it
Dohn is a hypocritical ass! great post!
big dog

by Sc is full of scumbags on Nov 10, 2007 10:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, where did Dohn go to school?
Obviously not anywhere first-rate.

by Chandler on Nov 11, 2007 3:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The performance of this team and it's coaches...
makes me want to vomit.

that's all I have today
that's all I have to say

by bruin80 on Nov 10, 2007 7:55 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

This was a key loss
barring the unforeseen miracle, we will likely end up 5-7, no bowl, and setting up the much anticipated date of 12/3, when I fully expect DG to hold a press conference regarding a certain "coach".

In addition, the MSM in the next 2 weeks won't be talking about "controlling own destiny" or "bowl eligibility", rather the focus should solely be on Dorrell's future (or lack of it).

The timing will also be appropriate for DDs ad in the Daily Bruin.

If any loss can be categorized as a good loss, this was it.

"If I don't do my job, I will get fired" -Karl Dorrell

by godblesstyus95 on Nov 10, 2007 7:56 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Updated for today's loss


What else is there to say?

by Telemachus on Nov 10, 2007 8:43 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

He's done...
and knowing that makes the rest of the season a little easier to swallow.  for what it's worth, the 2nd half especially wasn't the usual torture it is to watch. the D was game, and they finally let the kid at quarterback make some plays.  Breazzell's throw back was sick... until it was dropped.  and then there were some other stupid mistakes. but this coaching staff has made their fucking bed, so they can lay in it. i'm not pissed about a close loss to a #9 opponent (even though the game was ours for the taking), but it's the pathetic, unfathonable decisions and losses up til now that have shown Dorrell the way out.  I'm not expecting much the rest of the way... and i don't care anymore... but at least i'll be able to cheer knowing that dorrell's end is near...

by bruinthug98 on Nov 10, 2007 8:44 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Which one?
Which one for Interim Coach - the guy with the towel or the guy behind him picking his nose?  Either one would be an improvement.

by Tommy Bruin on Nov 10, 2007 9:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Definitly Towel Guy - He's our only
undefeated coach:  Career Record 1-0 took a sorry Toledo Coached team and whipped them into shape with his towel to beat New Mexico in 2002 ? Bowl Game 27-13!

He can finish off this sorry seaon for Coach Toast.  Can't possibly do any worse.

by bruinhawk on Nov 10, 2007 10:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

why do people think
A guy best known for waving a towel should be in front of the team?  Why not the guy in the visor behind him?  GET RID OF TOWEL GUY TOO, THEN DISINFECT THE LOCKER ROOM.  UCLA FOOTBALL IS SO BROKEN YOU NEED TO START OVER.

by greatgymnasticschool on Nov 11, 2007 8:37 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

because he has no ambition to be coach
ed kezerian is head of academics for the athletes, so all he would be is a front.  we don't have to worry about the administration deciding "well dewayne walker has been ok so far as interim coach, so let's just keep him on as our head coach."

the towel guy makes sure the players are eligible to play.  gotta keep him around.  plus he shows the most enthusiasm out there on the field.

by freesia39 on Nov 11, 2007 2:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

From what I gather
Towel guy has virtually nothing to do with the decisions on the field or the practices where our players don't learn how to play. Since I haven't really heard of any problems with our players being academically questionable, he must be doing his job properly, more than I can say for the rest of the staff. Getting rid of him accomplishes absolutely nothing.

by Tydides on Nov 11, 2007 3:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

well it seems...
he's been touched by a lot of the stink.  Why keep him?  If he keeps one process or thought that's the way KD used to do it, he's a cancer.  In fact, waving the towel is way too symbolic of badness.  IT SHOULD ALL BE THROWN OUT.  LET'S START WITH NEW WINNING PEOPLE AND NEW WINNING TRADITIONS!

by greatgymnasticschool on Nov 11, 2007 4:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

By that token
shouldn't we be getting rid of the student athletes from this year? Why don't we just not field a team at all next year unless we can sign all new players for each position. In fact, if we can't do that, we should have whoever signs with us play two ways.

But seriously, let's make sure we are smart about this transition. It makes sense to get rid of people who are underperforming. It doesn't make sense to get rid of people for your ego. It should be noted that if he was the guy that presided over the bowl win after Toledo was fired, then that means he was part of Toledo's staff as well, or more accurately, he is a part of no one's staff. He works for Morgan Center. If you can live with terminating a guy who has satisfied his job requirements, then go ahead and call for his head, but I can't in good conscience do the same until I hear that our players are having trouble staying academically eligible, because that is his job.

by Tydides on Nov 11, 2007 6:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ed Kezirian aka Towel Guy
Was there before DOOFUS got there, and will be there after he leaves.  He won the 2002 Las Vegas Bowl after Toledo was fired (he's won as many bowl games as DOOFUS as head coach).  Like other people have pointed out, if DOOFUS was fired tomorrow and Kezirian replaced him, he would absolutely be an Interim coach with no chance of becoming the permanent coach (as Walker could potentially be).  

There is actually a Wikipedia entry for Kezirian  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Kezirian

by Tommy Bruin on Nov 11, 2007 7:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He's been on the staff for 28 years
And he's been in his current position for 15 years (starting near the end of Donahue's tenure).

by SuperBruinMan on Nov 11, 2007 7:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

How many other schools
have their 'academic coordinator' cheering with a towel on the sideline?  Or coaching a game?  He has  moved himself into a position that leaves him vulnerable (as so many in coaching are) and honestly, anyone with ties to Donahue (and Donahue himself) should step aside and let a new coach build everything from the carpet up.

Is Tom Osborne at Nebraska sobbing to the press about how hard it is on Bill Callahan?  No.  He's calling it like it is - the results are not there, he's gone.    

by greatgymnasticschool on Nov 11, 2007 9:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But
His job has nothing to do with how the players play - he just makes sure they are eligible to play.  When was the last time one of our players was ineligible?  Tab Perry?

by SuperBruinMan on Nov 11, 2007 9:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just not seeing the need
to remove possibly the one person connected with the football team who is doing his job correctly. I could see having some sort of grievance with him if we were losing players in games due to academic issues, but we aren't. He has head coached one game in his career and won it, and the advantage here was that everyone knew he wasn't going to be the permanent replacement. Unfortunately, we were left in such a situation where the interim coach was probably better than his replacement.

If he has "ties" to Donahue, then he also has "ties" to Pepper Rodgers, Toledo, and sadly, the Doofus, so I don't see that as a line of reasoning that leads to us getting rid of him. What's the point in getting rid of KD if we are going to be rash? If we are so lazy as to be unwilling to evaluate the performance of individuals, then that obviously doesn't bode well for the search for our next coach does it? That's the kind of attitude that got KD on our "short list" the last time around.

by Tydides on Nov 11, 2007 9:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Proper CTSectomy procedures
This is what my med school textbook said about how to do a proper CTSectomy.  "Only cut out the diseased, pus-ridden tissue.  When making the excision, listen carefully for cliches.  A phrase like 'turning the corner' or 'coaching hard' is  a sure sign that you're getting the cancerous, whiny tumor.  If you start hearing things that are understantable, you are taking too much tissue.  You will encounter one relatively large item which must at all costs be removed and placed in a toxic waste container.  It is often found stuffed in the pants.  Be careful not to look at it, because its contents are so ridiculously confusing that you may start taking out your own internal organs.

Remember that a CTSectomy can sometimes cause the operating surgeon to try to remove too much diseased tissue too quickly.  Not all tissue surrounding the tumor is infected with loser-itis.  Some of that tissue is valuable to support the remaining healthy body.  It is not always necessary, for example, to remove a towel."

That's what it said in my medical textbook, FWIW.

by Fox 71 on Nov 12, 2007 4:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Fine...
as long as he doesn't wave any more towels, allow the next coach the option to keep him or not.

by greatgymnasticschool on Nov 12, 2007 8:32 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

DORRELLECTOMY
It's time for a DORRELLECTOMY - get rid of DOOFUS and his whole staff, burn everything they ever touched, put asterisks next to the last 5 seasons with a note that our program was being held hostage by a completely IMCOMPETENT CLOWN (I suspect he must have compromising pictures of Guerrero or the chancellor to have kept his job this long - there's no other rational explanation.)

by Tommy Bruin on Nov 10, 2007 9:37 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Please! no buring everything he's touched -
that probably includes too much of UCLA's campus.  A thorough cleansing Of the campus, athletic facilities, and the Rosebowl with about 100,000 gallons of an industrial disinfectant should work.

by bruinhawk on Nov 10, 2007 10:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The last play...
The last play was pretty much a statement of the KD era....had some hope but in the end it was shitty

by lil eg not cs on Nov 10, 2007 10:26 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Fire Dorrell
Let Coach K and his magic towel coach the last 2 games.  He is undefeated as an interim coach, and he can't do any worse than what we have now.

by joeb on Nov 10, 2007 11:19 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Bruce Davis
Is a F*cking MORON and a classless football player

by TruBruin on Nov 10, 2007 11:27 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Fjor those of you blaming Davis...
Granted Davis' blunder cost 3 points, but who was it wo went for 1 instead of 2 after the kickoff return.  A 2 point conversion makes it a 3 point game and a field goal away from a tie and overtime.  Even if the 2 point conversion fails, the team still is within a TD winning.  This would have made the circus laterals at the end a moot point.  Again, the answer to who lost the game is the Vampire, Count Dorrell (the vampire who sucked the life out of Bruin football...)....

by Gary72 on Nov 10, 2007 11:30 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

They both should be blamed
Those three points gave ASU all the momentum heading into halftime and forced UCLA to score a TD instead of a FG.  It is also possible that UCLA would have gone for two if it would have tied the score.

by SuperBruinMan on Nov 11, 2007 12:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Please excuse the spelling errors,
Unlike Count Dorrell, it is not so easy to sleep after another loss...

by Gary72 on Nov 10, 2007 11:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

No Neuheisel
There is not 1 good reason to hire this guy other than "He is a Bruin"  which is why we ended up with Dorrell. He took a great Colorado program loaded with McCartny's players and had his best seasons 10-2  10-2 and left the program a complete disaster that they have still not recovered from. Then on to Washington, did average there and left the program a total disaster and they still have not recovered. I cant believe that after the Dorrell mess that there are actually  people that call themselves Bruin fans who want this guy leading us back from the Dorrell experience! Please remove his name from your list if you love the Bruins!

by TruBruin on Nov 10, 2007 11:37 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Neuheisel = trouble
I'd like to think that DG is conducting a real search, which doesn't include RN.  We all know his history, which you pointed out.  His name shouldn't even come up as a possible replacement.  Please DG, NO Nueheisel.

by NickBruin on Nov 11, 2007 7:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not Blaming Davis
For this loss. Just stating facts.
He is a classless moron who talks a better game than he plays. If Dorrell weeded out the Jerkoffs
when he got here why is this guy here. By the way Mr. Shut-down corner (Trey Brown) is another classless blowhard who talks a better game as well. Glad to see these A-Holes will be leaving with Dorrell!!!

by TruBruin on Nov 10, 2007 11:43 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

wow
you are the a hole. he openly talks trash, you need to hide behind a computer to do so. give them a break. by the way have you ever met trey or bruce?

by hbruin84 on Nov 11, 2007 12:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i agree
yes Davis has had some stupid penalties... the one today was questionable... and yes, it may have changed the momentum briefly.  but not as much as, say, the wide open dropped pass from breazell which pretty much ended a great drive. so lay off the guys. davis was double and triple teamed all game and still made plays... and yes, i know i've been slammed for supporting the guy in the past. but do you see his effort on every fucking play? and if he was overrated, opposing offensive lines wouldn't be putting two and three guys on him... and he's still 2nd in the pac 10 in sacks.

by bruinthug98 on Nov 11, 2007 1:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree.
Davis foolishly acted out of frustration and passion.

He is a great player who had been held and then hit after the whistle.

"Pay Back" may be stupid, but explainable.

Bruce Davis is truly a great athlete who tries to fire up his team. With the right coach, he'd be able to take a step back and just play. He doesn't have that coach.

I feel the same way about Trey Brown.

Both guys are trying to bring passion and confidence to a team that has no confidence in its coaching staff.

I am sorry, for both of them, that they never got to play for a real coach.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 11, 2007 7:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Help request to Fox71
Fox71,

I need you inscrutable mind to discern the coaching logic today. At a critical juncture of the game, Breazell makes a great pass to a wide open WALK-ON, who I personally had not heard his name before and the announcers as well commented. Why would any coach put a walk-on in that situation where the game was on the line? Is there no scholarship football player on the bench or elsewhere who could have been in that field location to catch the ball and run in for a TD, perhaps? It appeared to me as if someone said, "Let's give so-and-so a chance to learn and grow", so put him into the game and maybe, one in a hundred, be able to make the play. Of course, since he hasn't been playing, he may be so wide open he may have hands of steel and his head may be looking way up field as the ball comes his way, but what the hell, let's give him the chance. After the play, the shot of him standing on the sidelines looking mortified says it all. Tell us all Fox71, what is behind the coaching minds at work here?

RE: Bruce Davis and the penalty just before half time. He is a force to be reckoned with as we all know. However, if I am the opposing coaching staff, the word would be that he does have a short fuse, so double and triple team him and eventually, he will get through and the chances of him roughing the passer are good. It couldn't have worked out better for ASU yesterday as the half was over with UCLA in control, and that one play changed the momentum going into the locker room, put ASU up by 4, so instead of the obligatory Dorrell led FG strategy to win the game at the end, they had to get a TD, etc.
Bill

BillSouthBay

by Mensgym on Nov 11, 2007 6:55 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Re: your comment on BD
If an opposing coach can double and triple team him all day and still protect the qb, our pass rush is so anemic they will win the game regardless of what BD does.
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 11, 2007 7:38 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

meadows...
i have heard his name from going to spring games and scrimmages, but from what I remember he played corner. if my memory is correct that makes the call even worse.

by hbruin84 on Nov 11, 2007 8:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Meadows
I heard today Meadows came over from being a corner to embarrassment yesterday.  Unfortunately, that one flummoxes me even more. I have already tapped into the expert on KD here, Fox71, so this one may actually go beyond his seemingly limitless skills at figuring our coach out.
Bill
BillSouthBay

by Mensgym on Nov 11, 2007 3:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you, Bill, for showing confidence in me
I assure you it is not misplaced.  Our current head coach is obviously the best possible choice for head football coach - I get that from the MSM.  Should he be fired?  No, not according to Dohn and Perelman.  (Read both their blogs if you don't believe me - when asked flat out should the coach be fired, they say something other than an unequivocal yet.)  So obviously with those parasites who don't want their applecarts upset - I mean, those upstanding journalists -- supporting CTS, there must be some reason we are only 5-5 instead of the 10-0 expected by some and predicted by others.

I have summoned all my powers, and have discovered the reasons, and there are several.  

We have no returning starters or seniors on the team, so there is no leadership.  No, wait ....

Our starting QB at the beginning of the year was not the most sought-after QB in the country when he was in high school.  He also could not throw a long pass to save his life, so we designed an offense to take advantage of his skill at looking at one or two or three or more receivers before choosing where to thrown the ball.  No, wait a minute ....

We made sure that we had an offensive line that was impregnable, allowing the QB as much time as necessary to throw the ball, and if necessary, to shoot a few commercials a la Peyton Manning.  Uh, wait ....

We made sure our defense was perfectly attuned to what the other team was doing, and we especially focused on stopping the spread, which had been our nemesis in the past.  Er, ah, no ....

And we tried a difficult schedule.  Ah, um, ....

OK, how's this:  our coach is stupid.

Thank you for giving me the opportunity to assist.

by Fox 71 on Nov 11, 2007 11:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

About Meadows...
The article about him is about halfway down the page.

by SuperBruinMan on Nov 11, 2007 2:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Davis Comment
His response to the late hit call in the paper today:

"I was pretty shocked," he said. "He throws the ball. I take a step and hit him.... The side judge had been on me from the get-go. Who knowss...whatever... they made their call."

Well, A) from every TV angle, it looked like a late hit, and B) why take such a shot on a Hail Mary pass, especially on a guy who's alone in front of the ref on the last play of the half?

I don't know where to begin on that one. Lack of contextual decision making from a guy who should know better. And yes, it was a momentum shifter.

by Fedup on Nov 11, 2007 7:58 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

But, to offer a retort to my own post
Clearly taking BD out of action (and subsequently seeing him act out of frustration) was part of ASU's plan, and it worked to perfection. Baiting other players into making mistakes isn't exactly a supernova of coaching genius. BD was clearly losing his cool at that point - the announcers even pointed out how obvious it was.

And thus, we again come back to coaching: I would hope someone on the sidelines was alert enough to point this out to BD, pull him aside, cool him down, warn him about getting lured into making a silly mistake, point out that by taking on double and triple teams he WAS in fact enabling others to get to Carpenter... something that would assume awareness of game strategy. Anything!

Davis is a stud who gives every ounce of effort he has. It is a shame he has to play under these circumstances.

And on a side note, If I'm Oregon and $UC, I'm watching all this on film and pulling the exact same strategy.

by Fedup on Nov 11, 2007 8:28 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Adjustments
Where was the coaching?  Even the commentator was saying, why not move Davis around so it would be harder to double/triple team him?  Also, if they're triple teaming Davis, the "great" Walker should have been able to figure out schemes to bring pressure from elsewhere.  

Davis shouldn't have done what he did - but it's got to be frustrating for a guy that's playing hard on every down to see game after game mismanaged away, to see himself going up against a brick wall every play with no adjustments from the coaches, and he was getting hit late with no call from the officials.  The coaches should have seen that too.  If we had real coaches, they would be able to deal with Davis - his comments to the press, his short fuse.  He's a good player who does have weaknesses.

by Tommy Bruin on Nov 11, 2007 8:46 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good point....
Another thing good coaches do is ride the officials effectively so you actually DO get some of those calls. Our friend Petey from across town does it every game, and surprise surprise, he actually gets calls.

We seem to get screwed by the officials even when we're at home (that no call pass interfernce?)... where's the screaming? The arm-flailing? the charging onto the field or up and down the sideline? All we get is the stone-faced stoic who absorbs all these horseshit calls with quiet dignity and grace.

by Fedup on Nov 11, 2007 9:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Markey/Ramirez/Meadows
The latest examples of player mismanagement...
  1. Why did Markey play in the second half? If he wasn't healthy enough to start, how is he suddenly healthy enough to go in the second half?
  2. Ramirez played on special teams (KO coverage) so I presume he was healthy but didn't get any plays at RB. Even after Sheppard was injured and Markey was proven to be completely ineffective.
  3. Meadows... I really hate to pick on a walk-on.  But why on earth is a walk-on cornerback even being given looks on offense when he's dropping the ball in practice?  Turner and Graves are equally unknown/unused (thus being good decoys) but are at least supposedly getting reps in practice at WR.

by GoneRacin on Nov 11, 2007 9:06 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

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