It's the record, stupid!
I have been among those who have wanted KD gone for some time, and I still do. 13-9 was a "gutty" win, but it continued the water torture for another year.
I also applaud those who have criticized KD objectively, pointing out the frustrating inconsistency of his record, the poor preparation and the continued pitiful performance against inferior teams.
I am bothered, however, by the personal nastiness and characterizations by some towards KD which insult his intelligence, his demeanor or attitude. If I'm honest, I've probably been guilty of this myself in the past.
Now that the writing is on the wall, we all need to cut it out. No one should be happy with anyone's firing, even when that person deserves it. Particularly in this case, no one can question KD's commitment to UCLA or his heart.
The bottom line is that despite his good points: he has cleaned up the program, shown high integrity and his teams usually, not always, play their best against the toughest teams, his overall winning record is one of mediocrity. In other words, there are three primary reasons to fire KD. His record. His record. His record.
With the exception of the 10-2 season [with it's 2 crushing losses and 3-4 miracle wins based on throwing out the game plan in desperation], he is a .500 coach over a five year span. That's just not good enough, or should not be good enough at UCLA, unless one believes that is the best one can expect here by any coach, a premise I find baseless.
We can argue about the reasons for this average record. And that may help in identifying what qualities we seek in the next coach, but the reasons are secondary to the performance on the field by the team, its wins and its losses.
I think the reasons boil down to one. KD has been inflexible. He has committed himself to the WCO all five years under all circumstances even when his numerous coaches and players have not been able to implement it. Nor has he shown flexibility in identifying players or at least experimenting with them in even trying times.
Instead of making his system fit the players, he has tried to make the players fit his system. Bottom line: the players can't play, they can't just be athletes when the system is too complicated or requires too much finesse.
Is there really any question that the Bruins need a simplified offense that let's the players play? I don't think so. Is there any question that Ben Olson is a misfit in the WCO? Is there any question that at some point in their careers Matthew Slater should have been given a chance as a running back or Osaar Rashan given a chance at QB?
These are but the tips of the iceberg that make the KD's lack of flexibility or imagination or experimentation, so mystifying and frustrating.
This is Terry Donahue football at its best/worst. I suffered for 20 years with that man who, again, despite being True Blue, got less out of his soon-to-be NFL players than any UCLA coach in history.
Think about it. How many of the current UCLA players are going on the NFL? Not nearly as many as Terry had. And no, the lesser talent is not a justification for keeping KD; that's on him, too. And the talent has been more than enough to beat the vast majority of our competition.
We've suffered 5 years with TD's replica. He comes frustratingly close to winning games he shouldn't [ASU with an inexplicably inexperienced OR at QB and a walk-on RB] and loses horribly to inferior competition. My head and my heart can't take it any more. Believe me.
Yes, fire KD, for his record, for his record, for his record. Period.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of BruinsNation's (BN) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of BN's editors.
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i agree with you...
by redsand514 on Nov 11, 2007 10:35 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
KD's 'commitment' to UCLA?
But he won't because he is a selfish sob. Screw him.
by Nestor on Nov 11, 2007 10:36 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
The Most Charitable Take on KD
He simply did not have sufficient experience and knowledge -- when he took the job -- to be an HC.
It is less charitable to say he was "inflexible".
I truly believe that he simply didn't know any other way to approach the game.
And, he didn't grow.
He made poor choices in assistants and coordinators.
None of this is a character flaw.
He should never have been hired.
by Class of 66 on Nov 11, 2007 11:20 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well said
by silverlakebruin on Nov 11, 2007 3:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He ain't squeaky clean
The text message to the fired coach.
The constant scapegoating of assistant coaches.
What appears to be cronyism rather than an actual effort to improve the team with the hiring of Norvell whose ONLY claim to fame is that he is an advocate of the WCO.
Failing to have the integrity to ever admit that "coaching hard" does not equal "coaching well."
I disagree, uclahy. Surely his record alone justifies his immediate dismissal, but there are all these other issues that also call for the same action. And of course we only know about the "non-record" that have made it to the press.
All of that calls for his immediate dismissal.
by Fox 71 on Nov 11, 2007 11:23 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
If KD was winning 10 games a year
The personal attacks are just unnecessary (and this isn't directed to you Fox) and now seeing that move from KD to the players in the last few weeks just makes me sick.
We have good kids. BD is a good kid. BB is a good kid and I hate seeing this hyper negativity now being directed at them.
The record is the only reason we are firing Dorrell. And the record is much worse than it should be with the type of talent he has. That's the story.
by silverlakebruin on Nov 11, 2007 10:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Davis brought it upon himself
by Tydides on Nov 11, 2007 10:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's fine, but
by SuperBruinMan on Nov 11, 2007 11:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you
As long as a coach is not breaking NCAA rules or have out of control players, you judge him on his record. And KDs record stinks and he deserves to be fired. Period.
by silverlakebruin on Nov 12, 2007 8:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You are whining again
by Nestor on Nov 12, 2007 4:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Doofus's Integrity
What will he do? He'll point fingers, make excuses (injuries, anyone), spout nonsense, and milk the situation for every penny he can. Where's the "integrity" in that?
by Tommy Bruin on Nov 11, 2007 3:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I agree, Dorrell's biggest coaching errors have
On the other hand maybe he doesn't know how to run any other offense other than his horrible misrepresentation of the WCO. I don't think his repeatedly trying to jam a square peg into a round hole version of the WCO offense is the problem as much as the fact that he's the one running it because I don't see any Bill Walsh San Francisco 49er's here. WCO isn't right for college but if KD ran the spread offense I don't think we'd see anything remotely resembling Oregon.
If Dorrell did change his ways and was more flexible thus having a better record I probably wouldn't really care about the Eric Scott thing and minor stuff like that. However, being that a clean program is the only thing Dorrell's had to hang his hat on Eric Scott bothers me since he directly hired him and knew of his past. Toledo never directly handed out the handicapped placards so in my opinion Dorrell is dirtier than Toledo. Also, Dorrell sure made sure MVP Medlock was back soon after his DUI and reportedly run from the scene. And Dorrell repeatedly does throw players under the bus, tells Simers that because of his race he'll never be given a fair shot, tells Fox Sports that he's underpaid, has ruined Ben Olson's career, had Matt Moore overhear he was being demoted through the headset during a game, and seems to love Terry Donahue's mantra that only the Pac-10 matters. Nevermind, fuck Dorrell, all the character assasinations in the world won't do enough justice to equal the character assasination he has done to the UCLA name and the 2 million dollars he gets to not ruin the program any more than he already has. Hey, he's going to get 2 million for not coaching, so things aren't really going to change. Overall you are right on with the inflexibility thing but when Dorrell stops throwing players under the bus and says what he knows in regards to Eric Scott, or when he has the integrity to resign, then I'll think the character assasinations are wrong.
by Dorrellian on Nov 11, 2007 6:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
One minor, minor disagreement
by Fox 71 on Nov 11, 2007 8:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In Fairness to Justin Medlock
I don't think he was charged with or convicted of leaving the scene of the accident. I Googled and do not find support for that assertion.
Medlock was not "back soon after his DUI"; Justin did not play in the bowl game, that year, leaving KD and the team without a proven kicker, and sadly, its biggest scoring threat. He was reinstated in the fall after dealing with his legal situation.
That portion of your post is not accurate and needlessly unfair to Medlock.
There is enough bad about KD's coaching that one need not go there.
by Class of 66 on Nov 11, 2007 8:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Medlock case
by Tydides on Nov 11, 2007 9:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
KD
by Sc is full of scumbags on Nov 11, 2007 11:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I appreciate all of your comments, really, but if
I agree with some of the points made here. I just see no need to be as "classless" as some of you claim KD is. There's just no need to focus on anything but the big picture: his record, his record, his record. Everything else is just window-dressing.
I have a neighbor who was a great UCLA player with KD who only says great things about him as a person and a hard worker, etc. But even he said long ago that KD must go because of his poor performance/record.
Does that make him or me "weak" on KD. I don't think so.
by uclahy on Nov 12, 2007 12:30 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well your neighbor is spinning
And where have you been all these years? We have written posts after posts building the case against KD based on his record. That doesn't preclude us from pointing out he is not all that good person either.
by Nestor on Nov 12, 2007 4:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
DUH-rell
He's incompetent, he's a doofus, he should be fired, he should have been fired. He's not a great guy. Just because he dresses neatly doesn't make him a class act. If I somehow talk my way onto a job I can't do, totally screw it up but keep on accepting a huge salary, blame everybody else for my screwups ... who am I? DUH-rell, or George Costanza! DUH-rell has as much integrity and class as Costanza.
by Tommy Bruin on Nov 12, 2007 9:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey wait a minute
by abby8065 on Nov 12, 2007 10:07 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
You wouldn't love George Costanza
Art Vandelay
by Fox 71 on Nov 12, 2007 7:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not all about the record
I think it worthy to point out how Dorrell and his players have poorly represented the university and the program:
1. The scapegoating.
2. Mindless quotes in the media, week after week after week, about "coaching harder" and "learning how to practice well", and don't forget the dismissive statements like "I sleep well at night".
3. The Scott debacle.
All fair game and noteworthy of a program that lacks leadership, class and integrity: this cannot be discounted.
Not all about the record: you yourself point out how he "loses horribly to inferior competition". Losing to the 2007 Notre Dame version is not the same as losing to the 1967, 77, 87 or 97 version, is it? Losing 6-44 to a depleted midmajor Utah team isn't the same as getting blown out at LSU or Florida. And 1-3 at lower tier bowl games isn't the same as 1-3 in Rose Bowls. It's who he's losing to and how he's losing them.
And I am willing to concede that 7-5 at Ucla is not the same as 7-5 at SUC, which is not the same as 7-5 at Stanford. It's not all about the record.
And here's some other little tidbits that I think are worth mentioning:
Recruiting during Dorrell's tenure has been mediocre by UCLA standards. Injuries have unmasked our glaring lack of depth at skilled positions. We can count on one hand how many legitimate 5 star caliber players he's recruited during his 5 years. You can't discount these facts either.
Lack of player development.
Poor game management.
Boring, unimaginative, conservative play-calling.
Yes, the sum of all the problems together is what provides glaring evidence that Dorrell is not coaching to the standards of UCLA and needs to be fired. Each fact can be fairly and objectively analyzed individually to support this viewpoint. Wins and losses don't always tell the whole story.
by godblesstyus95 on Nov 12, 2007 10:28 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Didn't he get one 5-star recruit?
by Fox 71 on Nov 12, 2007 7:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Brian Price was also 5 stars
by SuperBruinMan on Nov 12, 2007 10:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah - I forgot about Price
by Fox 71 on Nov 13, 2007 5:03 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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