Toast Better be Toast
Bumped from the diaries. Hope folks at Morgan Center read this post closely, especially that last line from 77. GO BRUINS. -N
I must admit to a large amount of Dump Dorrell fatigue (not the web site, just the subject). The reasons for Toast's just and imminent departure are too numerous and have been discussed pretty much without end here on BN and are also taking hold in the MSM. I was putting a personal moratorium on the continued discussion because it seems so obvious why Toast is toast. Unfortunately, I keep getting riled up by the speculation that Toast could still be around next year. So as a cathartic end to my frustration with Toast, I am posting what are expect to be my final rebuttal to what I believe are the only two semi-plausible arguments still out there for retaining Toast: 1) to retain the recruits that have orally committed; and, 2) UCLA can't afford, or won't pay, for a decent replacement, plus cover the cost of Toast's buyout package.
One class of recruits is not going to make or break for UCLA football. Does it make sense to jeopardize the potential for turning around a floundering program by betting on one recruiting class? Also, why does anyone believe that keeping Toast at this point will hold this recruiting class together? With all the open speculation about the future of Toast, even if these commits are in love with playing for Toast (I know that is a dubious assumption, but one that is thrown out by the Dorrellistas), these recruits have to recognize, based on Toast's record to date, that his days as the head coach at UCLA are limited. Since many of these potential incoming freshmen would most likely redshirt next year, they have to rbe thinking that they most likely will never play a down for Toast. Therefore, if Toast is the attraction for them to come to UCLA, for that reason alone, they are probably already reconsidering their commitments.
Point two is even more ridiculous than the "keep the recruits" argument. UCLA can not afford to keep Toast. Last year (2006) UCLA's football attendance for seven home games was 454,683. That's an average of almost 65,000 per game. If Toast is retained and the Bruins continue to put a mediocre team on the field, attendance will drop. Assuming that average attendance drops by only 5,000 per game, which is less than 10%, at an average ticket price of around $40, UCLA will lose $200,000 per game in ticket sales. That doesn't even count lost parking and concession revenue or the financial impact from a drop in donations and lost TV revenue (since TV appearances will also most likely go down). I think these are very conservative estimates, but in ticket sales alone, the lost revenue from ten games will pay for Toast's buyout. Also, assuming the program turns around, a 10% increase in attendance is not unreasonable. That could more than pay for the increased salary of a high profile coach. If Dan Guerrero can't be convinced that Toast is toast based on his inept on field performance, then maybe the money argument will make sense to him and his fiduciary responsiblities for UCLA athletics.
While I would love to say this is the last time I will let the Dorrellistas and there unsupported arguments to retain the most inept coach UCLA has had in generations, get under my skin. But as a season ticket holder of more than 30 years, I just can not let stand any chance that Toast will not be gone by December 3. Of course, if he isn't gone, my annual donation to the Bruin Athletic Club and season tickets will be gone from the cofers of the UCLA Athletic Department
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of BruinsNation's (BN) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of BN's editors.
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Bruin77, I know what you're going through
Then a Dorrellista will say "Nyah, nyah, nyah - CTS is great" and you'll snap. When you wake up, a post bearing your name will have skewered the little Dorrelista, and you'll learn that you haven't been cured. Only a total excision of the tumor will do it, and that ain't happened yet.
I feel your pain, brother.
There is purportedly a new wrinkle
Thereby DG is facing two possible options: retain KD or give the job to DW.
I really hope all this is heresay.
Someone please allay my fears, but as long as KD still has a key to his office I do not feel he is anywhere near TOAST. And the prospect of having TOAST Jr. (DW) to step right in just sends chills up my spines.
Ah, the Race Card
As far as replacements go, your concerns regarding DW may be valid. It could give DG a way to negate the race card being played. However, UCLA has not had a problem in the past with this issue. Both Farmer and Hazard were let go (or forced out). Not only did they share a similar ethnicity with Toast, they were both not just members of the Bruin family, but major contributors to UCLA's athletic success. While the decision to make a change with both Farmer and Hazard were in a different era and under a different administration, they do demonstrate that at UCLA ethnicity is not the issue, job performance is.
You keep coming up with these
BruinZone, BRO
You're right, I shouldn't let them get to me.
But what about the meeting DG had with DW?
KD's gotten me all paranoid.
I exchanged e-mails with Dienhart
I will follow up with him and see if there is anything else out there.
Don't believe
From what I have heard DG is talking to NO ONE. No one knows. So some people are out there desperately trying to hang on to hope for their Doofus.
I wish DG would make the announcement already
by silverlakebruin on Nov 14, 2007 12:10 PM PST reply actions
I'm not worried about 2 victories because
I'm worried about NO victories and he still keeps his job.
Blue, get a hold of yourself!
It's just that I've been beaten down
then Carnesale...5 years so far of KD
I can't take this anymore.
The hiring of DW would push me over the top.
OK Bruins
Someone cue up the 4th quarter of the Barnes to Stokes game. That will help for a start.
Thnaks!
The longer
I think most recruits will stay if CTS is fired. These kids hear about the expectations for the program, maybe CTS even sweet talks them. They are impressionable and maybe feel some kind of loyalty, but I think most of the recruits are intelligent enough to see what is happening and realize there isn't any progress. They very likely will redshirt and see positives in starting under a new coach. We may lose a few recruits, but the trade-off is worth it. The current situation is unbelievably aggravating. I can't remember a season in which I felt this much frustration and anger. I think some in the MSM truly love CTS and want to create the appearance that he is in control of his future at ucla. Many of us end up feeling as though we are being held hostage by this so called coach. I firmly believe CTS is here for 2 more games and most recruits will stay. The major issue now is will we relive all of this with another crappy coach.
Off Topic
The adds for the Trojans still keeps popping up at the top of the page periodically. I know you don't control it, but it is a bit disconcerting to see it on a Bruin blog.
Dienhart's blog
Anyway, here is part of Dienhart's Week 11 awards (emphasis mine):
"Let's do it: My Week 11 awards.
COACHES
Wish I were him: Les Miles, LSU
Glad I'm not him: Randy Shannon, Miami
Lucky bastard: Pat Fitzgerald, Northwestern
Poor bastard: Karl Dorrell, UCLA
Desperately seeking a clue: Ron Prince, Kansas State
Desperately seeking a P.R. man: Ron Zook, Illinois
Desperately seeking sunglasses and a fake beard: Jim Tressel, Ohio State
Desperately seeking ... anything: Jeff Jagodzinski, Boston College"
The other Mr. WCO
I have no love for nor any ax to grind with Nebraska (although I think they have classy fans), but I imagine Neb. fans spit on the ground when someone mentions Callahan.
Maybe Callahan and Norville can team up again next year--somewhere far, far from UCLA.
Someone remind me--exactly what did Dorrell see in Norville that made him think he would be an excellent hire for OC at UCLA? Just that he would pray to the God of WCO? Was that it? It can't be past performance.
Past performance was probably it
Dorrell rumors and logic
My Stomach Turns Because
That makes many of us ambivalent about those two games.
I'll cheer for us and not feel bad if we lose; I hate watching a game that way.
Fear not
DG is silent because perception is still important, despite Fox's assertions that he can and should be fired today. Waiting until the season ends is, in my opinion, the safest and least controversial way to handle the situation, particularly if we do not go to a bowl game. He will have plenty of ammunition and can use the Powell Doctrine of overwhelming force. The Rumsfeld Doctrine would be inappropriate here...speed is not of the essence.
CTS
Race should not factor into this decision, CTS has had five years to prove to us he has what it takes to restore order and bring the football program back to prominence instead we're a mere laughing stock
DeWayne Walker deserves to be a Head Coach one day but not here at UCLA , Our new HC needs to be someone who is a proven winner not someone who is learning on the job
by Bruin10 on Nov 15, 2007 12:42 AM PST reply actions
Attendance Figures
A work associate (a fellow bruin and Dorrell-despiser) maintains that attendance has been growing and I wanted to verify his asserton..
..moreover, if that is the case, I would want to understand why?
by whp68 on Nov 15, 2007 4:52 AM PST reply actions
attendance
no shows
If I recall, taking the CTO's word that the ND games was a sell out (dont think it actually was, but...), there were over 15,000 no shows to that game; the sold-out Cal game had between 8-10,000 no shows assuming announced attendance figures are correct.
Latest issue of Bruin Blue
2004 - 29200
2005 - 30000
2006 - 38600
2007 = 49200
Hope that helps.
I saw that
Hey Dan, don't you agree that it's a shame that we cannot celebrate football (other than increased ticket sales) during football season?

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