End Of The Clown Show

by Nestor on Dec 1, 2007 5:07 PM PST in Football Comment 101 comments

It is over.

Time to break out our party hats:

There is not much to analyze here. The score wasn't as bad as it could be because the TrOJie offense was sloppy. It could have been much uglier than it was.

Now it is on to the coaching search, which should not include the DyNoMite DeWayne or any one associated with the cult of Donahue.

We have no interest in a self-promoting also-ran coordinator, who has never had any head coaching experience in his life, and whose defense can only match up against predictable Os. Not to mention his D plays without discipline and out of control.

So no a DeWayne Walker will not be acceptable answer at UCLA. He also needs to clean his locker out. Actually every clown coach associated with Dorrell needs to clean out his locker.

We need a clean break from last 5 years.

Party on Karl. Party on Jay. Party on DeWayne.

I am sure you guys can get ready for your future gigs at some golf course near you.

For the rest of us we are done with the clown show.

Thread it up in what should be our first post-Dorrellian football thread.

Yeah baby.

GO BRUINS.

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what a clown

by RScal on Dec 1, 2007 5:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Good riddance

You unbelievable douche.

Kyle Bown Class of 2007

by Bruinbown on Dec 1, 2007 5:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

he's not gone yet

stranger things have happened

by Linguica on Dec 1, 2007 5:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

D didn't play bad

they made some great plays threw out the game. It's kinda hard to win when you don't have an O.

by uclaov1 on Dec 1, 2007 5:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

"didn't play bad"

Should never be the standard of excellence at UCLA. I could give a rat's behind about DeWayne's moral victory. He needs to go.

by Nestor on Dec 1, 2007 5:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

can't do it all on D

as we saw today...

by RScal on Dec 1, 2007 5:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

agree...

D did a solid job. same old story, with turnovers, penalties, and the offense giving it right back to the opposition. if we had an even half decent coach who could figure out a half decent offense, we win the game... see ya dorrell.

by bruinthug98 on Dec 1, 2007 5:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

D did a "solid job" - so what>

Against a mediocre Southern Cal offense that has been mediocre all season. That doesn't mean DeWayne deserves to remain at Westwood.

And there were all those stupid penalties.

He still hasn't showed he has no clue on how to defend the spread.

by Nestor on Dec 1, 2007 5:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

then who

i doubt the next HC would bring in a better DC then Walker.

by uclaov1 on Dec 1, 2007 6:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

It will be up to next HC

And he can decide whether he wants Walker or not. But Walker should not be forced upon him.

He is not anything special.

If you think Walker is something special, you have pretty low standards.

by Nestor on Dec 1, 2007 6:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

No one said

he was something special, but he has done great job in the time he has been here. Before he got here UCLA was one of the worst D teams in the Nation. Just ask yourself this, is our Defense better then it was two years ago?

by uclaov1 on Dec 1, 2007 6:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Thats a dumb question

Two years ago our D was one of the worst in the country. So DeWayne improved it a bit and put together some decent games here and there.

But his success rate is just about as good Phil Snow's success rate under Toledo. He had some good games and some terrible ones.

Nothing special.

If you think Walker should keep the DC gig based on two games against SuC last two years, then you are showing the same idiotic symptoms of Dorrellistas who supported the Doofus for last 5 years.

DeWayne Walker is an above average DC, who still needs lot more experience. He can get it somewhere else besides UCLA.

I want him gone.

by Nestor on Dec 1, 2007 6:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

you said it yourself

he is "an above average DC" and with more experience he might just become an Excellent DC. and do not put me in the same group as a Dorrelliast, i never liked the hire.

by uclaov1 on Dec 1, 2007 6:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Uh yeah

UCLA needs more than "above average" in its next coaching staff.

by Nestor on Dec 1, 2007 6:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

if the next HC

keeps DW then good if not lets just hope he finds a better one.

by uclaov1 on Dec 1, 2007 6:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I think

I will agree with that. But my only concern is that next HC should not feel pressured to keep DW as his DC. That will not be a healthy situation.

by Nestor on Dec 1, 2007 6:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree

by uclaov1 on Dec 1, 2007 6:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

uh...

nobody is suggesting Walker stick around. just giving credit where its due. apparently every single other reliable source in college football thinks sc is one of the most high powered teams right now (ESPN, SI, etc), and I'm giving credit to the guys that battled on that side of the ball... because its warranted. nobody is suggesting he become the head coach or even stick around, so just chill.

by bruinthug98 on Dec 1, 2007 9:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

First time poster, long time lurker

No more Duhrell!!! Woooo!!!!

by sumo390 on Dec 1, 2007 5:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

time

to clean house! have to rebuild with new system.

by Bruins095 on Dec 1, 2007 5:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

So long CTS..

you miserable f*cktard of a coach. A real coach would have won this game for us. Damn you for the embarassment that was the last 5 years, and damn you for the miserable games I had to endure at UCLA from 02-06.

by TX Bruin06 on Dec 1, 2007 5:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

GOODBYE TOAST

Have a nice life SOMEWHERE ELSE.

by Tommy Bruin on Dec 1, 2007 5:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Post-game stuff on Fox

Talking about Dorrell being done and how the WCO doesn't work in college. Sounds about right to me.

Kyle Bown Class of 2007

by Bruinbown on Dec 1, 2007 5:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Hartman made mention of a coaching cange in motion

come on DG get up and take care of business...

by RScal on Dec 1, 2007 5:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I still can't belive we are gonna be freed

from this moron! It's like an early Christmas present!

by sumo390 on Dec 1, 2007 5:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

2 Rose Bowls

and zero Rose Bowl victories in last 22 years. How did it ever come to this? Will the insulated admin ever get it right? We can only speculate as to where DG and admin are with resptect coaching search. Who will ultimately be the decision maker? that's what makes me nervous and very skeptical. Is DG the lead on this one?

by Bruins095 on Dec 1, 2007 5:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Well, it's over.

But I don't feel any better. Those rat b@stards from SUC get another win. Hopefully I'll feel better on Monday when it's official that Doofus is finally gone for good.

by waters96 on Dec 1, 2007 5:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

It IS over, right?

yeah, the loss wasn't a blowout - probably the only thing he can say on his own behalf.

After five years of the vaunted West coast offense - still today observed frequently using pass plays for yardage less than half of the amount required for a first down - after five years of blaming the OCs and canning them - and am I wrong to posit that Jay Norvell was the W-O-R-S-T OC hired by Toast (yeah, Axmann, even a stiff like YOU get a pass)? for an offense that is too complicated for everyone on the field except a talented, disciplined defense, Please tell me the Dullard era is finito?

The Mad Bruin

by lostnacfgop on Dec 1, 2007 5:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Dan Guerrero

you are now on the clock.

"It's not losing, it's bad defense that makes me shake" Lute Olson

by godblesstyus95 on Dec 1, 2007 5:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

A hot tip for Dan g.

When you're "examining the body of work" bring along "Quincy, M.E." or the staff from "CSI." And when you're done, donate it to the Medical school. like all the other cadavers.

Ding dong
the Doofus' gone

The Mad Bruin

by lostnacfgop on Dec 1, 2007 5:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

We're #4...

Couldn't even live up to that...

by RScal on Dec 1, 2007 5:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Actually, technically we are #4

tied as it were ... as of right now.

editor, DumpDorrell.com ... formerly posted as DumpDorrell

by BruinCore on Dec 1, 2007 7:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

lol

guess we ended up tying with Oregon...

by RScal on Dec 2, 2007 1:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

aaaargggg

570AM online not only still is not streaming the post-game coverage, but is playing Celene Dion. I don't know what is worse, KD's coaching or having hat to listen to that

by bruinhoo on Dec 1, 2007 5:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

It's

that sickening feeling starting to settle in after an SC victory and another wasted season. I'm becoming indifferent to the program. One last hope DG wil somehow buck history and get it right.

by Bruins095 on Dec 1, 2007 5:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Its all about the money

Money makes college football revolve now a days

by RScal on Dec 1, 2007 5:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

what the hell

happened to Cal this year? Losing to stanford!!!

by Bruins095 on Dec 1, 2007 5:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Hopefully when the team

gets back to campus...Dorrell's car will have been towed and the sign will read "Parking reserved for _____"

the following responses
A)Peterson

B)Chow

C)Schottenheimer

D)anybody else

by bruin78 on Dec 1, 2007 5:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

DOOFUS is a total fool

But our cheerleaders are still way better looking that $uC's.

Please God, let it be over.

by Tommy Bruin on Dec 1, 2007 5:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Bye Karl

Here's your last chance to save face as an alumnus and resign tomorrow morning. Forfeit the severance money that you do not deserve when DG fires you.

My vote goes to Chris Petersen or Paul Johnson.

by Undertow on Dec 1, 2007 5:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Rushing box score

     CAR    YDS    AVG    TD    LG
Markey    17    48    2.8    0    12
Whittin    1    1    1.0    0    1
Hale    2    0    0.0    0    0
Breazel    1    -7    -7.0    0    0
Cowan    5    -31    -6.2    0    0
Team    25    11    0.4    0    12

11 Yards rushing on 25 carries.

Beautiful zone blocking schemes.....

Bob O. (Signholder #3)

by TuneMan7 on Dec 1, 2007 5:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

OK DG..........

Let's end this ridiculous charade right now.

Here are my choices as to who I would like to take the reigns:

Chris Peterson
Steve Mariucci
Bill Cowher
Steve Spurrier
Kirk Ferentz

Peterson is my first choice; head and shoulders above anyone else. I just think he'd be a great fit at Westwood. I could live with Mooch, though. Cowher, I know we have as much chance as a snowball in hell of getting but I've always liked the guys intensity. I know some of you guys don't like Kirk Ferentz but if you give that guy talent he can coach. But I don't think he'd be a real good fit at Westwood; he seems pretty happy in Iowa City.

As much as I hate Misery (for ripping my always and forever LOS ANGELES Rams from SoCal) I hope the Tigers do win so Ohio State goes to the Rose Bowl so they can work the Trojies.

by Minnesota Bruinfan on Dec 1, 2007 5:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

No more WCO!!! Please god!

by sumo390 on Dec 1, 2007 5:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Please, no bowl game

let this year be over.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Dec 1, 2007 5:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Remember the BCS

talk? the pathetic wristbands? shit, probably won't even go to a bowl.

by Bruins095 on Dec 1, 2007 5:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Doofus's next career

He can be a mariachi dancer. He can dance at $uC football rallies for dollar bills.

by Tommy Bruin on Dec 1, 2007 5:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

The biggest question

is how much will ucla offer to next coach? so much speculation on this. anyone know of any credible figures that might be available? guessing admin is tight-lipped about this.

by Bruins095 on Dec 1, 2007 5:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

1.5 million

That's what we are working with give or take ... we can go up if we feel like we have the right guy.

by Nestor on Dec 1, 2007 5:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I really want Paul Johnson

He's my number 1. I would love to retain Walker, but that's more emotional because I see how hard our D plays. If he needs to go to get the right coach, I'm okay with it.

The funny thing about that picture, is that is the pinnacle of KD's career: A win over Northwestern in a third tier bowl game. in the same season he lost by more than 4 touchdowns twice.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Dec 1, 2007 5:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Clean House

The new HC should be free to choose his entire staff.

I don't want DW in the program. But, if the new HC wants him, that's OK with me.

Let's not tie DW to the position. We may lose good people who have other ideas.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Dec 1, 2007 5:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

1.5

with incentives should be enough to get pretty good coach.

by Bruins095 on Dec 1, 2007 5:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Yeap

by Nestor on Dec 1, 2007 5:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Bruce Davis - our PUNTER!

Check out espn's stats (before they fix them):

11 punts for 447 yards and playing defense, what a guy!

by Telemachus on Dec 1, 2007 5:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Rofl, so sad.

by sumo390 on Dec 1, 2007 5:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Grok

I wonder what Dohn's grades are going to look like this week.

by Nestor on Dec 1, 2007 5:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Nestor

Yeah, hard to justify a good grade, but since the A grade for coaching after the Oregon game, who the heck knows? Lot of people seem to be in extreme "Save Dorrell" mode.

by Telemachus on Dec 1, 2007 5:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Dorrell is gone

So is Dohn' credibility in his coverage of UCLA football. I think he knows it too.

by Nestor on Dec 1, 2007 5:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

UCLA Press Conference on Monday

Reported in Press Enterprise.

Is this new? Or, do you all know about it.

I was hoping for tonight or tomorrow, but Ican wait for Monday, if necessary.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Dec 1, 2007 5:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Do you have a link?

by Nestor on Dec 1, 2007 5:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Argh, I want it to happen tomorrow... : /

by sumo390 on Dec 1, 2007 6:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes

I'd like to see a link, too.

by waters96 on Dec 1, 2007 6:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

One play says it all

Third quarter, S$C has just committed holding on third down. Best case scenario, hold them to three points. Worst case scenario, S$C gets 7 on a touchdown. What does Duhllard do? Accept the penalty, of course! Result: S$C scores on next play, 7 points, 3 scores behind now! Team gives up, realizing all hope is lost.

God, end this misery!

by keenone on Dec 1, 2007 6:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I just found a link.

http://www.beloblog.com/Pe_Blogs/collegesports/ucla/

by waters96 on Dec 1, 2007 6:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Clicked on Press Enterprise from Your Links

http://www.beloblog.com/Pe_Blogs/collegesports/ucla/

"UCLA is 6-6 and needs an Arizona State victory tonight to have a shot at playing in a bowl game. It could have been the last game for UCLA coach Karl Dorrell (35-27 in five seasons) . UCLA has a news conference scheduled for Monday."

sjh

by Class of 66 on Dec 1, 2007 6:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Hallelujah!

by sumo390 on Dec 1, 2007 6:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I'm rooting for Arizona tonight

we don't deserve to go to a bowl game this year. ANd I don't want to see KD at the sidelines for one more game. And if KD isn't coaching I don't want DW to be allowed to coach the game and somehow win..and have people start talking about how he should be our next coach!

by abby8065 on Dec 1, 2007 6:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

It's all about Ed Kezirian.

Mr. Towel Waver goes to 2-0 in the postseason. Doofus goes BYE-BYE. We get a real coach. All is sweetness and light in the Land of the Bruin.

by Tommy Bruin on Dec 1, 2007 6:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

In the Words of Roberto Duran -- No Mas!

Let's just call it a year.

Does anyone want to see us play, again, this year? As if Oregon wasn't ugly enough 0-- we get this game.

Do you want to see any more of Norvell's offense. Connally's O line?

And, frankly, I've not been enamored with DW's defense. I remember Utah.

Rather than go to and lose a lower level bowl game, I'd rather close up, get a new coaching staff, and reopen with energy, in the spring.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Dec 1, 2007 6:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Utah

Apparently some idiots here have already forgotten about Utah.

by Nestor on Dec 1, 2007 6:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Interesting Stat

Our D is ranked 48th in the nation against UNRANKED teams.

And, people forget that DW, too, threw players under the bus.

Although DW is not my hero, I wish him well. He brought intensity to a program that needed it.

I truly hopes he gets the WSU job. Their ain will be our gain, too.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Dec 1, 2007 7:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Bell Helicopter Armed Forces Bowl

Who needs it? Just tell them we forfeit and fire the DOOFUS and START LOOKING FOR A REAL COACH.

by Tommy Bruin on Dec 1, 2007 6:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

On Monday DG's got to make it clear...

That this is not acceptable. That he is going to step up to the plate and get a Howland level coach for our football team and we will never accept being a doormat for the TrOJans.

by waters96 on Dec 1, 2007 6:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Any thoughts

on prying Greg Schiano out of Rutgers? I like his style. I know he turned down the Hurricanes so he is likely entrenched their, but from what I read the canes facilities are mediocre and some say it is not the job it once was. My first choice is Petersen though. Youtubed the BSU/OU game last night. Still get shivers watching, and wondering what it would be like to have a leader that coaches NOT TO LOSE!

by sjcmcm41 on Dec 1, 2007 6:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Schiano

Not happening. He is waiting for Joe Pa to retire at PSU.

by Nestor on Dec 1, 2007 6:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Not going to happen

If he was looking to leave, Miami last year looked to be it.

by bruinhoo on Dec 1, 2007 7:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

BYE BYE

YOU LOSER

GO BRUINS!!! Beat SC

by ralph95 on Dec 1, 2007 6:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Doofus could spend the summer

He could spend the summer cruising Norwalk with Eric Scott seeing if anybody left their front door unlocked. He'd probably be a miserable failure at that also.

by Tommy Bruin on Dec 1, 2007 6:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Another Steaming Load..

First of all, those of you who thik the game was "better than you expected" or the "D" did good are seriusly mistaken. This game was almost as painful to watch as the OU game. It stunk up the barn major league! And it just goes to show you that a mediocre football team can make anyone play down to its level.

I think Dorrell is gone; my reason for this is that, despite the revenge motive USC had, this game was winnable (by UCLA). There was no cohesiveness, organization, or management of the Bruins' effort today. Their performance today showed that little or no organized thought went into the preparation of a game plan. The defense was only marginal and the offensive line (a.k.a., the offensive sieve) was horrendous.

Guerrero has got to be thinking that USC is a beatable team under Carroll if even Dorrell and his clowns can keep it close. All of its talent and all USC can do is be up 17-7 when it mattered (he was given the last touchdown as a going away present by Dorrell). If only we had a decent football coach things would have been vastly different.

..this latest addition to Dorrell's body of work is as corrupt and as rotten as the previous five or six efforts and smells to high heaven.

by whp68 on Dec 1, 2007 6:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Dorrell's Wife

By the way, is that Dorrell's wife in the picture? (serious question.)

by whp68 on Dec 1, 2007 6:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I believe so

by Nestor on Dec 1, 2007 6:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

We Are UCLA

Congrats Nestor www.firekarldorrell.com has finally reached it's goal! I'm not sure exactly which game made me stop coming to the game threads this season but it's good to care about UCLA football again.

In spite of today's outcome I really feel like UCLA is the potentially the winner today. Let's just hope Danny G has a good replacement in his sights.

by alcor805 on Dec 1, 2007 6:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Will sanity previal?

Previously posted. Updated for DG's assessment of Dorrell's body of work.

by Telemachus on Dec 1, 2007 7:08 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Great Job Bruins

NATION, Nestor and everyone else that contributes to BN has done a great job this Football Season. Kept everyone informed and entertained this season.

by uclaov1 on Dec 1, 2007 7:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

New Coach's Salary structure.

According to reports on Les Miles of LSU.
LSU=$3.5M a year.
UM =$2.0-.5M a year.
That maybe a ball-park figure for a head coach now at a Major University.
And UCLA is a Major University.
What's Berkely paying Tedfor, anyone know?

by jim masterson on Dec 1, 2007 7:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Tedford

Here is a link to a pretty detailed analysis of his total comp

http://www.mercextra.com/blogs/collegesports/2007/05/18/cal-football-analyzing-jeff-tedfords-new-con tract/

by DallasBruin on Dec 1, 2007 7:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Don't let Guerrero off the hook

It's been a painful 5 years to watch our Bruins come out of the gate hot, then come out flat for big games, lose games they SHOULD win, and mail-in the second half of the season. Karl is a good Christian man, and I believe did a good job cleaning up the program left to him by Toledo and molding these kids to become better young men. But this is big boy college football, and you need a great football mind, great recruiting and great hiring/mentoring of coordinators. Unfortunately, Karl has not any of those very well in his 5 years.

But let's not drop this all in Karl's lap. Karl was in over his head on Day 1. I don't fault him for taking a job he was not ready for. This was Dan G's first big hire, so he is squarely to blame here. Let's not praise him when he announces Monday that Karl is gone... let's make sure we as alumni and fans put HIM on the hotseat. He made a commitment to Basketball brining in and paying Ben-Ball (DG did MUCH better in his Second big hire). Now let's see if he is going to commit real resources to Bruin Football.

I believe we need $2M to lure a Chris Peterson away from Boise State for Steve Mariucci into Westwood. Imagine Cowen or Osaar in a Spread Offense? With a front 5 that could open MONSTER holes for Bell next season without defenses stacking 8 in the box all the time? Maybe our defense would not be on the field 75% of the game.

But mark my words--- D.G. will once again, go "on the cheap", and offer Kirk Ferenz or a good DII coach $1M - $1.25M. Dan must either commit the money to football, or temper expectations that UCLA Football fans should be content with a clean program in the 8-4 to 6-6 season record range, and annual post-season bowl trips to Las Vegas (Pioneer Pure Vision), San Francisco (Emerald Bowl), and maybe San Diego (Holiday Bowl)on a good year.

It's a shame we are firing a man with good character and value because he is not a very good football head coach, but it would be a BIGGER shame to let Dan G think that his own black leather executive chair over in the Morgan Center is an warmer than Karl's has been

UCLA Class of 91 - Economics

by cojulun on Dec 1, 2007 7:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Fierenz is making $2.8 million

to suck at Iowa; not going to leave that for $1.5 or so at UCLA. Even receiving such an offer would be a black mark on DG.

by bruinhoo on Dec 1, 2007 7:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

agree

he was named as a possible successor at michigan because of some personal ties, but they really don't want him there. he can continue to suck at iowa for $2Million. we can do better than that.

by bruinthug98 on Dec 1, 2007 9:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

"A Good Christian Man"?

Um....

What does being Christian have to do with coaching football?

Seems like totally irrelevant information included in your post.

by Quickhands on Dec 1, 2007 8:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Dorrelistas are flooding AM570

It's amazing what some of these people say.

"Karl Dorrell has character and I learned in school that character is a good thing to have."

by sevascisum on Dec 1, 2007 7:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Good Character and Winning Are Not Inconsistent

And, we've deflowered the myth that KD took over a dirty program and improved its character.

In the last few weeks, KD's character has been tarnished. Complicity in the playing of the race card was not an act of good character. And, the continuous refusal to tke responsibility for the program's failures and his pointing the finger of blame at his players, are not indicia of good character.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Dec 1, 2007 7:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

funny

Apparently UCLA has been playing its scout team for the last 9-10 weeks, something "you can't argue with".

I wonder what Olson/Cowan, Breazell, Davis, Taylor, Tevaga, etc think of that characterization?

by bruinhoo on Dec 1, 2007 7:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Wish I had a Dorrelista as a boss

"Hey bud, your results are worse than most people in the office, it doesn't like you understand the work we do around here, and you haven't improved any in five years. But you've got great character, so here's a raise and your job will never be in jeopardy!"

by Telemachus on Dec 1, 2007 8:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

off-topic, tOSU may back into the title game

West Virgina losing to Pitt, 13-7 late in the 4th quarter.

Oklahoma has also take a lead over Missouri in the Big XII title game. If these results hold, we likely get an Ohio State-Georgia/KU/Virginia Tech title game. Personally hoping for tOSU/Kansas or Va Tech, setting up sc to have to play possibly the best team currently in Georgia.

by bruinhoo on Dec 1, 2007 7:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

been w/o internet for the past couple hours

just realized that Cal lost to Stanford. hahahahahaha. How did we finish 2 whole games ahead of them in conference?

by bruinhoo on Dec 1, 2007 7:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Doofus's biggest supporter

by Tommy Bruin on Dec 1, 2007 10:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

This summed it up for me.........

KD taking the holding call on what would have brought up a fourth and goal. Sure, give SC TWO freaking chances to score from inside the 10! Brilliant. That one call summed up KD's head coaching career.

Karl, I hear UCLA Extension offers a course in resume writing...It might be a good idea to register now.

I may work with the Waves, but I'm still a Bruin!

by HoozierDaddy on Dec 1, 2007 11:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

There is NO reason to celebrate today.

(1) We lost to $C. No matter the time, place, or circumstances, that SUCKS.

(2) It is looking more and more likely the admins may fire KD. I've seen people laid off, both for their own performance and for purely financial issues, and it SUCKS, especially near the holidays.

(3) We STILL have to find a new, better coach. Until the replacement is announced, we have NO idea whether our new HC is actually a GOOD one. I know many will say we can't possibly be worse, but I REALLY don't want a repeat of the last 5 years.

No retreads, no retirees, no repeat offenders, no retainer -- AND NO RERUNS.

I do NOT want to see our program go through this again.

I want a GOOD coach.

"Because I'm tired of it. Year after year after year after year having to choose between the lesser of 'Who cares?'"

by Meriones on Dec 2, 2007 7:48 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Doofus firing a cause for REJOICING

I think with his $1 million salary and $2 million severance package that he'll make it through the Christmas season OK. Screw him - if he was a real class guy, he'd step down graciously. The way he's handled the whole thing, I doubt he'll ever be a head coach again - he's not only an incompetent head coach, he's made himself toxic by playing the race card and blaming his players for his mistakes.

His departure will be an occasion of great JOY and will be met with REJOICING and JUBILIATION by all the Bruin faithful.

by Tommy Bruin on Dec 2, 2007 8:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

His departure will mean NOTHING...

... if we simply replace him with the even-less-HC-experienced Walker, or some random assistant with no HC experience.

IMO, the JOY comes from making a GOOD hire.

You can cut out a malignant growth, but unless the wound actually heals, you're not out of the woods, by a long shot.

"Because I'm tired of it. Year after year after year after year having to choose between the lesser of 'Who cares?'"

by Meriones on Dec 2, 2007 1:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

M, go ask your wife to slap you in the face

You need it. You're a bit hysterical, and now is the time for coolness and calculation, not hysteria.

As has been the case for the past year, every day that goes by with CTS in the head coaching position is another day of mediocrity for our alma mater. DG and you and I and the rest of the fans cannot wait until the perfect hire is made before CTS is fired. He must be fired if only to tell potential coaches that we are not in the "feeling you out" stage, we are in the "we are only a millimeter away from making you an offer."

CTS is not the guy you thought he was when he was hired or even what you thought he was a year ago. The "man of integrity" facade has disappeared. He does not deserve your sympathy, any more than any fraud or con man deserves your sympathy after he's caught. Don't feel bad for his family. Feel bad about Ben Olson's family, who thought he had a shot in the NFL until CTS completely butchered his development.

Bottom line - do NOT worry about who we might hire. That's step number two. The fear of what might happen in step number two cannot and must not prevent DG from executing step number one, which is to get rid of CTS immediately.

by Fox 71 on Dec 2, 2007 2:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs