DG going for the big name. Big deal.
Bumped. I agree that DG deserves credit showing that he is going after a big fish like Bellotti (and the fact that this didn't get out until after they met is impressive), however that said I agree with this post that DG still has to close the deal on a named coach with credible head coaching experience, who will get us excited about UCLA Football. GO BRUINS. -N
So you're praising Guerrero for simply having the guts to publicly pursue Mike Bellotti?
How far have we fallen?
So Guerrero goes out and makes a run at Mike Bellotti, a proven, experienced, successful head coach that, unlike other candidates he has reportedly interviewed, would actually meet the standards that he himself more or less laid out as a prerequisite for the job after firing Dorrell.
And Bellotti, rather smugly, said "No thanks"
And now many of us are praising Guerrero simply for making the effort. For not being afraid of rejection, not being afraid of failure. Never mind the fact that Guerrero wasn't persuasive enough to lure a coach from Eugene, Oregon to Westwood.
How far have we fallen?
I've got news for you guys: UCLA is a big time program, playing in a big time stadium, which sits in a big time city. Going after a big name coach shouldn't be applauded, it should be EXPECTED.
I am happy we went after Bellotti. I am disappointed Bellotti turned us down. Maybe he likes the cold, dreary, wet weather up there. Maybe he actually digs those butt-ugly uniforms. Maybe he doesn't really have the stomach of going toe to toe with PC in his own backyard. Maybe he hates the limelight. Whatever the reason, he basically told us to "Duck Off". Whatever. Let's move on.
We shouldn't be praising Guerrero for having the guts for going after someone like Bellotti. Going after a guy like Bellotti should be a given at UCLA. At this point, we should be asking about other big names, and we should expect Guerrero to make an honest run for them.
If Bellotti is the one and only "big name" that Guerrero has truly made a run at, and we end up with Neuheisel, I would say this search process was a joke.
If Neuheisel was our man, Guerrero should have hired him 2 weeks ago. If he isn't, then this process should be just getting started. I won't accept the fact that Neuheisel is hired over a willing pool that includes Walker, Chow, Harbaugh and Golden. That would be a joke.
If Neuheisel is a second-tier candidate, there should be other Bellotti-caliber names coming into the mix in the near future. Maybe more rejections, so be it.
But I will withhold my praise for Guerrero if and when he hires that big name. When and if he hires that experienced, successful, proven head coach that a big time program like UCLA deserves.
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I agree with you to an extent but...
But you got give him some credit for going after him. If your kid comes home with a test that they got an A on you don't withhold praise until they get a 4.0
But I do agree, from what is public, he has yet to do enough, but the longer the search goes on the better I think the chances are we're gong to get someone better, and the better chances DG is doing what he should be, going after the 1st tier candidates. But we have to at least give him some credit when things are looking in the right direction.
by Bruinbown on Dec 21, 2007 9:54 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Am I missing something here?
by UCngLA on Dec 21, 2007 11:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
With you 100%
We should not settle with any of the current candidates because none of them are worth our time and money. If you want to be a championship program, you need a championship-caliber coach, and none of the candidates fit that mold. Personally, I think UCLA's history in football is irrelevant to all of this--it doesn't matter whether we are a football school today, it matters whether we will be one in the coming years. And in order to reach the next level, we need to shed our low expectations and find a leader that has proven an ability to win and win big.
by jjreicher on Dec 21, 2007 11:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I am disappointed
by Nestor on Dec 22, 2007 12:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We aren't going to get a big name unless
by joeb on Dec 21, 2007 11:40 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
MAN
- We have plenty of money and plan to spend it. Do your homework
- Respect is earned. the PAC had an exceptionally off year. We beat ourselves up. The MSM is east coast weighted (as is the U.S. Pop). Deal with it.
- Aside from MI, not one of those programs offers SA's what we do/can (other than the fact that they're the only local entertainment source). Period.
- YES. We DO.
by theREAL_LOGAN5 on Dec 22, 2007 8:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Rick
by Bruin10 on Dec 22, 2007 1:56 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I understand the frustration, but...
by truebruin on Dec 22, 2007 2:55 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Very little history??
I will agree with you about DG, regarding this search. While I hope he names a coach soon, I trust he knows what he's doing. The problem with the MSM, the internet, and us fans at times is our lack of understanding on what's truly going on. I have a sense that DG's not panicking, and has the situation in hand. We see other schools hiring their coaches, so we feel we're left behind. Only time will tell how this thing turns out. I'm going to choose to be patient a little while longer.
by NickBruin on Dec 22, 2007 6:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly,
by truebruin on Dec 22, 2007 4:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks to Dorrell and Toledo
However, there's no reason that, with the right coach, in 3-5 years from now we could be one of the top programs in the country. We play in SoCal, we should be going after the same kids that SUC is going after. We play in the Rose Bowl (something SUC kinda envies right now), and there's enough history there. We have 100 championships in other sports who have to face the same academic restrictions that football faces.
We just need the right coach.
by godblesstyus95 on Dec 22, 2007 6:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
State of the program
I'm glad they went after Bellotti, BFD, they should be looking at every successful coach on the West Coast and the Southwest. Personally, I would accept RN for the job but none of the other names mentioned come close to my expectations. I would expect us all to have high expectations and the administration to back that up with the cash to make those expectations viable. If not, don't expect me to be sitting in the Arroyo watching mediocrity on the field.
by BruinAl on Dec 22, 2007 6:49 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Dan doesn't give a royal flying crap..
Now he's engaged in a search for a replacement and there's been nary a peep out of him except to enunciate the qualifications he's looking for in his replacements. The only things that bubbles up to the surface are the public remnants of his effort; Walker interviewed early on and then ignored, Chow withdrawing, Neuheisel having a second interview, and now Belotti being talked to (not an interview, mind you).
But, when we started this journey, we were obsessing over the nightmare of Chow+Walker and Petersen told us to buzz off.
Now things are looking up: someone had the cojones to talk to Belotti. And, as Steve Herzog observed, Leach's not really out of the picture. I am not sure Petersen is either. I see this Belotti talk as a move to send a message to Petersen that he'd better get used to the blue rug up there in Boise because Belotti's going to be at OU for a long time.
Also, as so many have observed, the serious. eligible coaches are engaged in bowls and can't serously negotiate until their immediate responsibilies are discharged.
I am not saying that bloggers shouldn't stop blogging and MSMers shouldn't stop MSMing, but to paraphrase Dorrellian: "It will be what it will be".
by whp68 on Dec 22, 2007 6:49 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Lest we forget
[1] Pac-10 schools continue to suffer from a geographic time zone disadvantage. Even in this age of HD digital satellite TV with TiVO, satellite radio and PodCasts, West Coast football still does not market well in the East. Take it from someone who has tried to follow UCLA football since graduating in 1985 while on active duty for the past 21+ years and has lived in Hokie country since 2002. By the time the West Coast games start fans out here are either driving home from their local game or are footballed-out and switching over to NASCAR. Even overseas, the time-slots dedicated to college football are focused on East Coast games. Most folks out this way only care about one team on the West Coast, and only because of the impact they will have on the BCS standings. With this limitation in mind I suspect it isn't easy to attract tier-1 coaches with higher aspirations to the City of Angels.
[2] Other than spending limitations, do we really know what other restrictions the administration has placed on DG? There are some circles of thought that major college football programs challenge the notion of the "student-athelete" because of the sport's enormous revenue generation capacity - that in fact players should be considered school employees. Is that what Morgan Center is concerned about if they hire one of the big names out there? Has Chancellor Block given DG an "off-limits" list (which I presume would include names like Spurrier)?
For whatever it's worth I think the search thus far has been pretty darned good. I think the names we've heard were forced on DG to consider; RN and Mariucci from boosters, Chow and Walker from a vocal set of fans/season ticket holders, and Golden from Block himself. Bellotti seems like the first serious pick by DG - and the resultant excitement was not as much about the man himself but over the fact that DG was able to break out of the politically-correct list. (by the way I'm not convinced that deal is dead... I still wonder why Dohn was able to scoop the MSM without help, and where BRO came up with the assessment that a deal was very being close to made).
Don't know about anyone else but I'd like to take a break from all this and enjoy a good game today - and hope that while I'm doing so (or finishing XMAS shopping) DG is out beating the pavement somewhere even Dohn and Walker don't know about.
by East Coast Bruin on Dec 22, 2007 7:27 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
It is a good sign
I believe that DG knew it was highly unlikely that Bellotti would come, but made the move to let the world (well the world that follows this stuff) know he was aiming high and to make sure a few other coaches knew we were not sitting around waiting on them.
From a PR standpoint (and I work in PR) this was a home run. He has also shifted RN's perception in most of our eyes. Two weeks ago we would have shut the internet down if DG just went out and hired RN. Now after strategically "leaking" some names and bringing 2nd tier candidates to campus, it appears a majority of us would accept RN as long as we feel we "tried" for the big names.
I still contend that he will wait another 10 days...make an offer to Petersen (that will of course somehow be made public) and potentially Leach and if/when they both pass...we have the ultimate fall back...a (mostly) beloved Alum who WANTS the job and will be passionate about it.
And believe me...UCLA's PR machine will make sure we hear the "Carroll was USC's 4th choice" story so many times that we will all want to puke.
Someone in DG's position always has to deal with perception AND reality. I believe that DG has done a masterful job of manipulating our perceptions. The reality is we will most likely end up with someone we could have had on December 5th...but won't we FEEL better about it now?
by lewkay on Dec 22, 2007 8:35 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Big name?
by nikeu on Dec 22, 2007 9:38 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

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