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How much of a gamble can I stomach?

I, like many of my fellow Bruins, have been intently pondering the future of our football program.  For months (heck, years for me) we have been throwing around names, looking at the pros and cons of each, and trying to imagine what they would do if given a chance in Westwood.  

But the question I keep coming back to, the idea that keeps circling around my thoughts throughout all of this, is how much of a gamble can I stomach?  

There is no home run hire this time.  There is no Howland -- someone who has demonstrated rebuilding at the D1 level, has a lot of head coach experience, has success everywhere he has gone, and on top of it all had UCLA as their dream job.

Wouldn't it be nice to have a candidate like that at this point?

But we don't have that luxury.  So every candidate has definite risks involved.  

Which gamble do I pull for?  Do I go with the riskier guys who might also end up being the coach who brings us to national championship caliber prominence?  Do I go with the safer guys, who don't have as much risk, but also are less likely to bring us to the greatest heights?

Peterson is the name that keeps getting thrown out there most often.  Clearly he is the one that has the most support overall (and apparently DG's first choice), but my God he has a lot of risk associated with him.  

People don't seem to think of him as risky as I do, but I don't know why.  He has only been a head coach two years.  TWO YEARS!  

He clearly has been successful, but was he just in the right place at the right time?  Barry Switzer won a Super Bowl, and he was no coaching gold mine, he just happened to inherit a great team.  

Petersen took over a program clearly better than everyone else in the WAC -- which isn't exactly the toughest testing grounds.  Do we really give him such great credit for racking up a great record over bad competition?  Kansas didn't beat a really good team all year -- do we really believe they are a worthy BCS team?  Do we really believe Ohio State would be one of the two teams left if there was a playoff?

The one thing people point to (over and over) is the win over Oklahoma.  And that was indeed a great game.  Clearly Petersen showed no fear and a lot of guts.  But does one game really put him that far ahead of the field of candidates?  People forget Oklahoma was only favored by 7 over Boise State.  For comparison, Oklahoma is favored by 6.5 over West Virginia this year.  Would you really be that shocked if WV wins (assuming Pat White is healthy again)?  People also forget that Oklahoma came out flat as all hell as they probably took Boise State lightly and Boise State jumped out to a big lead.  If Oklahoma had taken Boise State seriously, we probably aren't having such a groundswell of support for Petersen.

All of that being said, there are a lot of good things to say about Petersen.  He could be great.  He could be the next Urban Meyer.  But even Urban Meyer had more of a track record than Petersen (having won at Bowling Green) before Utah.  Petersen undoubtedly has a ton of upside, and could be awesome, but damn if he isn't one of the riskiest picks out there.  

Do I pull for a Petersen hire because there is a chance he could be Urban Meyer??  Can I really work myself up for such a risky hire (albeit less risk than CTS), if it means we might hit oil?

How about Leach?  That NY Times article was great, and my favorite quote in the whole article was:

"If you're on this offense, you expect to score. Most offenses on fourth down are coming off the field. On fourth down we expect a play to be called. Because we haven't scored yet."

That would certainly be a change from CTS.  I also was amazed to see Texas Tech through 11 games had only 12 3-and-outs.  12!!! It sometimes seems like we do that in a half!

Offensively, with the athletes that would be at his disposal, I have no doubt we would become an offensive juggernaut.  And, if nothing else, it would be a lot of fun to watch -- something which has often been lacking the last 5 years.  But man is Leach a gamble.  Is he Toledo v2.0?  

Given a stellar D coordinator (a NEW one please!), and possibly solid people to help recruiting CA, we could really have the makings of a dominant program, but those are some big ifs.  

Leach is also a bit loopy at times, and has had issues with PR.  

Can I stomach all of those risks if it means potentially reaching the mountaintop?  Can I summon up that fortitude after having CTS leech it out of me?

Mariucci is the third most popular choice here.  I guess I don't get that.  I don't see Mooch having as big an upside as the first two.  I do think he would be solid, but I really question his dedication to the college game, and how much he wants to deal with recruiting.  If he passed up the Michigan State job, which should have been a near perfect fit for him at the college ranks, why would I expect him to embrace it here?

Paul Johnson is the 4th most popular choice, and is often my top choice for CTS's successor (CTSS?).  He has been flexible and won with multiple types of offenses.  He has won without even 3* recruits.  Everything on his resume is impressive, but the one thing I worry about is recruiting.  He has never been a D1 recruiting star (and clearly, Navy presents some massive recruiting obstacles).  He was an assistant as Hawaii, but he really doesn't have true West Coast ties or know anything about recruiting CA.  And then I think that recruiting will take care of itself.  3* and 4* recruits come without much effort to UCLA, and if he is successful (which his resume seems to point to that he would be), that breeds more recruiting success.  

All in all, I think he is, by far, the safest choice.  Certainly a lot safer than Petersen and Leach.  But in no way do I think he has as much upside.  Petersen could be a future coaching superstar.  Leach, paired with the right people, could produce an absolute monster.

Which brings me back to my original point.  Who do I pull for?  How much of a gamble can I stomach after the last 5 years?  

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of BruinsNation's (BN) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of BN's editors.

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Excellent post
Well written and well thought-out.

by Barnes2JJ on Dec 4, 2007 8:39 AM PST reply actions  

Sounds like Leach
The baggage with Leach is tolerable, IMO. Petersen is playing the Boise fight song, so let him be. I can live with Leach idiosyncrasies as long as the defensive side is shored up. It appears he is obsessed with offense and is a risk taker on the field. Wouldn't that be a refreshing change? A man with confidence, not afraid to make a mistake while trying to succeed, pushing the envelope, etc. That is a bit like BT, but with some help from a Rocky Long type (where is he when we need him... risk taking, innovative, and flat out good on defense), Leach would be someone who PC would respect and fear.
Bill
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by Mensgym on Dec 4, 2007 8:45 AM PST reply actions  

There Are No Sure Things
Unfortunately, no coach comes with a guarantee. Five years from now we can all look back and see if Guerrero, et. al. made the right decision. Right now, the important thing is the right hiring process. Then we hope for the best.  

by Bruin77 on Dec 4, 2007 9:06 AM PST reply actions  

What about Bronco?
I keep bringing this up, but...
  1. quickly restored a winning tradition to BYU
  2. Understands the expectations of his school
  3. Turns around disadvantages in recruiting into advantages.
  4. Competes in the marginally tougher than WAC MWC, won 2 straight conf. championships.
  5. Defense minded guy, but no crappy Norvell-style offense going on here, 2007 BYU is ranked 15th in country in total offense.
I understand what you are saying with all these points but there MAY be a guy out there who can calm all your nerves and he is in Utah.

by njbruin on Dec 4, 2007 9:51 AM PST reply actions  

What about Paul Johnson?
He's been successful at both Hawaii and Navy. The Navy Academy has TOUGH academic and physical requirements. They don't just accept anyone. Moreover, Hawaii isn't necessarily the most alluring of all places (as far as college football goes), so good recruits are hard to come by there. Yet still he has managed to succeed. His overall record is 105-39 according to wikipedia and his bowl record is 2-2. That's pretty damn good if you ask me. Plus, he's used a different offense at each place, which shows that he's flexible and willing to tailor a system to his players instead of forcing a system on his players. I think he's as close to a "Howland type hire" as we can get. We really should hire this guy.

by OutOThsWrld on Dec 4, 2007 10:13 AM PST reply actions  

One more thing on Johnson
He also won two Divison 1-AA NCAA championships with Georgia Southern University in 1999 and 2000. Are you kidding me? What more proof do you need?

by OutOThsWrld on Dec 4, 2007 10:16 AM PST reply actions  

I agree...
To many of the comments.  I stopped at the top 4 coaches on the front page poll since my post was already getting long.  

Bronco I like a lot.  I like Paul Johnson more, but I think Bronco would be a very good hire and certainly in my top 4.  Like Paul Johnson, I think he is a much safer hire than either Petersen or Leach.  But I don't get the feeling with either of Bronco or Johnson that they have as much upside as Petersen or Leach.  Maybe they would, but it goes back to the risk/reward thing.  

Brian Kelly is a bit risky, and I don't see as much "home run" potential in him so why risk it?  Mike Price is pretty safe, but I don't see him as having much upside.  So I am glad they are not getting much support here.

Obviously I would like guarantees, but that doesn't exist.  So do I pull for the safer choices, and get extremely good coaches, who might become elite?  Or do I go with the riskier choices, who are more likely to turn out to be amazing...but also more likely to be duds?

Personally, I am torn between which way to go.

by OCBruin95 on Dec 4, 2007 10:34 AM PST reply actions  

Risk acceptance versus risk aversion
I am generally a risk-averse guy.  I was a risk manager for the late great Trans World Airlines for a while, and was accused of advocating a philosophy of hauling no passengers or freight to minimize the risk.  

But not now.  Not after watching the most risk-averse football coach in the history of the world.  

I think we accept the risk and embrace it and win or lose with it.  Right now, we are on justsc's 40 yard line in the first quarter and it's 4th and 1.  Do we accept risk or do we avoid risk?  I say take a chance.  Right now, I think the home run hire would be Leach.  (Yesterday it was Mendenhall, the day before it was Peters?n.)  

But I think we stay as far away from the Donahue-CTS Risk Avoidance Philosophy as is possible.

by Fox 71 on Dec 4, 2007 11:27 AM PST reply actions  

Best quote from the article..
referenced above....

Up in the sky boxes, the wife of an Aggie assistant coach insulted every female Red Raider in earshot by saying that at least she lived in College Station instead of Lubbock. ("First of all, we just beat them, 56-17," Leach says when told of the incident. "By rights she should now be a Red Raider slave.")

How can you not love this guy? He never I repeat never calls off the dogs.

by bruinelder on Dec 4, 2007 12:18 PM PST reply actions  

You're both right
That was the best quote in the article, and indeed she should have been carried back to Lubbock to wash dishes or clean windows or something.

by Fox 71 on Dec 4, 2007 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Read's even better if
you substitute $UC for Aggie...Beverly Hills for College Station...Westwood for Lubbock and Bruins for Red Raider.
Give it a try and see if you can keep yourself from smiling!

by CalPolyBruin on Dec 4, 2007 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Can't make up my mind either
This post is definitely what I'm thinking. Petersen, while promising, is nowhere near proven, to me.  He's had a good couple years, sure, but nothing like any of the examples of now-great  coaches from small conferences tossed around today. Tressel (mentioned elsewhere) won many multiple National Championships before Ohio State hired him. He was not merely 'promising.' Meyer was successful at two schools over four years (double the experience of Petersen). He proved himself to be a great recruiter. He developed and popularized a new form of offense, yet maintained a good defense at the same time. The only thing Petersen seems to have in common is that he won a BCS game, but Meyer got in when it was harder.

On to the other coaches. I haven't been particularly worried about Leach's defense - it hasn't turned him into a definite 'no' for me. He seems like a viable back up plan. And that article about him, while interesting, hasn't persuaded me to his side. He seems awfully loopy, even if he can coach football. He sounds like the perfect anti-Dorrell, which is exciting, but I'm not sure altogether necessary. For Johnson, there hasn't appeared to be any obvious drawback. He's been my nominal first choice, but I'm not really really excited by the idea of him - more like a good, solid coach. There doesn't seem to be much reason to bring in Mariucci, mostly an NFL guy. As others have said, he's clearly got his problems. I haven't put much though into Mendenhall, who sounds guite decent. I'm sure I'd be more interested in him if he weren't the coach at BYU, though; I don't quite like the idea of them having a good coach.

All that said, these coaches all sound perfectly reasonable. I wouldn't be unhappy with any of them, but I haven't chosen one I really want. The good thing is that most signs point to a choice among this group, not some of the others who've been touted for the job (ahem, Walker).

by jaffa on Dec 4, 2007 5:59 PM PST reply actions  

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