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Trust and Patience

Bumped from the diaries. GO BRUINS. -N

Trust and patience.  Two things I would love to have with this coaching search, but both are being put to the test this week.

Most people have this inkling about UCLA, in general, that we are the nice guys (and with 100 national championships, clearly nice guys don't always finish last).  Stereotyping is often a bad thing, but stereotypically speaking, many people view the UCLA vs. USC rival as good vs. evil.  Even Cowherd a couple days ago talked about UCLA needing to hire a coach who fit the upstanding, good moral qualities typified at UCLA over the years in order to fit in.  USC can hire the outlaw, the guy with a mean streak, the guy with a sketchy past, but not UCLA.

Live in SoCal long enough, and you will end up with many friends, co-workers, and even family members who are Trojans.  Even my Trojan friends embrace the evil side of that good vs. evil comparison, and acknowledge that those general feelings are out there.  

I can remember when the handicapped parking scandal broke, and being amazed at the fervor of backlash from the Bruin community.  Not that I support what the students did, but I was amazed at the ferocity of the response.  People were outraged how athletes, UCLA athletes, could do such a thing.  We are supposed to be the good guys.  Toledo took a lot of heat for that, and it was a big part of his lack of support when he stopped being part of the national championship picture.  People pointed to that as a reason to fire him.  Admittedly, that scandal was pretty minor in the grand scheme of things, but at UCLA it was magnified.

Yesterday I was discussing this coaching search with a Bruin colleague, and I brought up how this Dohn report was disconcerting, even considering how unbelievably unreliable that source is (it's like trusting Fox News to be "Fair and Balanced").  I could go off on a diatribe about Dohn, but I am going to resist the urge to go off on a tangent on that piece of crap.  Piece of crap or no, his post about Leach and the money issue touched a sore spot -- my ability to trust in our administration where UCLA football is concerned.  My friends response to my feelings was, "We are UCLA.  We are the good guys.  We are supposed to uphold good values.  We need to be patient and trust in our athletic director."

He came just short of saying Bruins are paragons of virtue.  It was a bit much, but it is certainly a sentiment many share -- although maybe not to that degree.

Trust and Patience.  I have seen those things flying around the message boards this week.  Forget about what Dohn said, we need to trust DG.  So what if some coaches are being hired and off the market, we need to be patient.  

Do we?  Do we really?  Are those really "good" qualities all the time?  I actually don't mind being branded the good guys, but are trust and patience really something to blindly do?  NO!!!

Trust needs to be earned.  And damned if UCLA football has screwed with us so long that pardon me if my trust is being strained.  I remember being so hopeful after Toledo was gone, and that I needed to trust this new AD.  He was supposed to be so much better (and he is so much better than his predecessors).  But I can remember the absolute deflation I felt when I heard the three finalists for the job, and the absolute dejection at hearing Dorrell had been hired.  

I was supposed to trust.  I did.  I got burned.

And after that dejection, people came back again (again!?!) saying to trust.  Trust in them.  They know what they were doing.  Dorrell will turn out well.  And damned if I didn't watch that Colorado game the first year, and see that all my fears were realized.  Dorrell was an absolute deer in headlights.  Train wreck.

So people changed tunes and started preaching to be PATIENT!  Give Dorrell time they said.  GAH!

And now I am back to hearing how I need to trust again.  Seriously?!?!

Fool me once...

Too bad it has been far more than just once or twice.

Guerrero HAS earned some respect with me.  Many things he has done very well -- even beyond Howland and Savage who people keep bringing up, but football is still a major issue and a sore spot with me.  I still don't trust UCLA where football is concerned.  I'm sorry if that flies against what  many think, but they haven't earned it.  Period.

And I won't just sit by and blindly trust that things will be ok.  Screw that.  I want everyone to know that I want this done right this time.  And I am glad for this website, where people who think like this can make that sentiment known.  

I want this done right, and I realize patience is often a good thing, but holy hell is this pushing that limit.  I do NOT want a quick hire.  I would actually have been a little scared of any hire already (recruits be damned -- leave the incoming class out of this discussion!).  Texas A&M and Ole Miss can do that all they want, but I want to be thorough.  I want this done right.  But only NOW are we getting a search firm finalized?!

Seriously?!  

Guerrero is losing trust points quickly with that one.  Thorough is one thing, but that smacks of being unprepared and unorganized (and actually hints that he might not have been committed to getting rid of Dorrell until really recently).  And for someone with trust issues, that is scary as hell.

We might not have gotten Paul Johnson, but I would have at least liked to have a shot at him.  An interview if nothing else.  Let him know we are interested.  Being patient has cost any shot at that.

I actually am very proud to have such athletic and academic excellence overall while generally doing it the "right" way (for the most part).  I have no problem being the "good" guy.  However, patiently sitting by and trusting blindly are not "good" qualities, despite what many of my fellow Bruins seem to think, and I am going to let my tiny voice ring out proclaiming that I am not going to take it anymore!  I am not settling for mediocrity!  And maybe my voice combines with other tiny voices around here, and together we can make our opinions heard.  We want a national championship caliber football program.

We are so good at everything else, maybe that makes me greedy.  Maybe I am not such a "good" guy after all for being "greedy".

Fine.  So be it.  I am greedy.  Sue me.  I WANT IT ALL!!!

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of BruinsNation's (BN) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of BN's editors.

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Good vs. Evil, hahahahaha...
....love it.

I always thought of it as:

UCLA - Lakers

USC - Clippers

It's more then true when it comes to basketball.

by cardom on Dec 7, 2007 12:56 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

In regards to DG, my guess is
the search firm is really mostly to vet candidates, not to come up with them. There is a finite pool of acceptable candidates, and they are known. A search firm isn't going to tell DG about anyone he isn't already aware of.

There is no reason to believe DG has not been able to contact candidates without the search firm. My guess is he has already narrowed down his choices, and the search firm will vet them for him, (remember George O'Leary and ND) and then DG will interview, make his choice, and get down to negotiating contract terms. Im guessing the search firm probably helps with that too.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Dec 7, 2007 1:22 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you
I think the Scott affair disappointed DG. I'd bet he wants someone to vet candidates carefully.

I'm sure he's not waiting for the firm to come up with a list.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Dec 7, 2007 2:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

OCBRUIN95 can read minds
at least mine, anyways.

Hearing the Paul Johnson news was quite a blow and I have to admit i'm developing a case of the jitters. From what I've heard Petersen is devoted to Oregon, and I don't have high hopes that he will come to Westwood. That leaves Mike Leach and Bronco Mendenhall.

All in all, I do feel that DG will bring in a capable coach to lead our team. But, I also fear he'll whiff on the homerun hire. I hope him all the best in his search; and Dan, if your listening: NO to Mora Jr. Hell No!

A coach is someone who can give correction without causing resentment. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Dec 7, 2007 1:47 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

OCBRUIN95
is certainly reading my mind.

Beautiful post.

by bluestreet on Dec 7, 2007 1:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It does take time
Paul Johnson coached in Georgia for 8 years. That was a good fit for him. We couldn't compete with that.

Patience is important. Getting it right is important. Michigan's coach resigned 18 days ago, and they don't have a coach. Are they worried that they are going to end up with some assistant or retread? No. And that's even though their last 2 hires were assistants at UM at the time they were hired.

At this time in the search that landed Howland (4 days after Lavin was fired), we were still one week away from being able to ask to speak to Howland. Rumors were running rampant about other potential coaches. We were patient; we waited for Howland to lose in the NCAA tourney, and within a week after that, we had our coach.

We can be patient here. DG has earned our trust by hiring great coaches to lead the other two marquee programs. He has said the right things in public about wanting a winner here. He has done the right thing by firing Dorrell. His failure to comment on any rumors is simply the correct wy to run a hiring process and is also a good negotiating strategy.

In addition, we have no choice but to trust Guerrero because unless you are in the Morgan Center or a big donor, you will not have a say on who he hires. If he does a shoddy job of hiring the coach, we'll start a Dump Guerrero site and get started on that problem. Until then, let the man do his job and make good on his firing of Dorrell and statements that UCLA should be in the national picture in football.

By the way, the more I hear, the more I think that Guerrero wants to make a statement with the new hire. I think that statement will be "All you naysayers beware, UCLA is now a force to be reckoned with in college football."

by BruinsRule on Dec 7, 2007 3:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Your excellent post reflects my own sentiments
I really want to believe that DG is not going to blow it twice in a row.

by bluegold on Dec 7, 2007 4:23 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The more I read
the more I think we will get Leach or Neuheisel.  

by tasser10 on Dec 7, 2007 6:18 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Hard data
is what this discussion needs. So far, the only things we know for sure are that Petersen said he isn't interested and Paul Johnson is gone. The only candidate who is clearly moving up is DeWayne Walker, who seems to have the blessing of many of the MSM, based on his recruiting prowess and the fact that some of his players have made statements supporting him and that the defense has played hard. I don't think this pleases many contributors to BN, but it shows all the more clearly how completely dependent we are on DG. He had the courage and good judgment to fire Dorrell; he has made some great hires. Let us hope that his courage and judgment will not desert him now. I don't believe that DW is his first choice of those remaining, but I do see how things might develop in such a way that we could end up with a man who is available, affordable, and African-American, an AAA candidate! But surely DG will not once again saddle us with a coach with no HC experience. That is the only thought that rescues me from my current depressing line of reasoning. Somebody cheer me up.

by Oldguy on Dec 7, 2007 7:39 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Hard data is right
Where is or what is the hard data which demonstrates his recruiting prowess?  I thought we were going to lose our super recruits when CTS left, or so said the Dorrellistas.

I concede that he's Black.  I concede he's available.  But affordable?  Nope - we absolutely cannot afford another five year training program.

by Fox 71 on Dec 7, 2007 7:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

NOT affordable! I like that.
Now might also be a good time to resurrect the aphorism, ascribed to Einstein, that to continue to do the same thing and expect a different result is a definition of madness. So, once again, no hiring a HC with no head coaching experience. We have already done that.

by Oldguy on Dec 7, 2007 8:55 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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