Answering Our Critics
In recent days, BN has been the target of ignorant criticism from other fanbases who think our expectations for Karl Dorrell are unreasonable and unfair. They know who they are, and while my personal feeling is that it's none of their damn business how we feel about our coach, I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume their takes come from ignorance rather than the fear of awakening the sleeping giant that is Bruin Football. After all, it is in the best interest of the current football elite that the Bruins don't join their club, and it would appear that us retaining KD is the best way to keep us down.
Some of our critics are undoubtedly ignorant rather than fearful, and that is what this post is all about: education. There are way too many reasons to doubt that KD can get the job done this year for me to list here. A small sample can be found in ESPN's recent "All Access" piece on our football team, in which our head football coach was made to look like a bumbling idiot in front of the nation. But I'm a Basketball guy first. I take refuge from the winter cold by ducking into Pauley Pavilion to watch our basketball team dismantle yet another hapless opponent. In that light, I'll share my personal reasons why it is absolutely imperative that our expectations are met this season.
The urgency starts and ends with this man:

I believe I felt a collective shudder from Bruin Nation upon seeing this mans mugshot. For the Non-Bruins who may not know who this is, this is Steve Lavin, ESPN commentator, #1 Worldwide consumer of petroleum products (hairgel), and one of the worst coaches UCLA has ever had. Among his "accomplishments" in Westwood are:
- Second worst record of any post-Wooden coach (145-78, 0.650)
- UCLA's first losing season in 50 years
- History of Postseason Failure (Inability to get past the Sweet Sixteen despite an abundance of NBA talent on his roster)
- Embarrassing blowouts to elite teams, unexplainable and unforgivable losses to far lesser teams
- Complete lack of player development
- 29-20 Record (0.592)
- 1-3 Record in second tier bowl games (losses in Silicon Valley, Las Vegas, and Emerald Bowls)
- Embarrassing blowouts to elite teams (SUC)
- Unforgivable losses to far lesser teams (UW, Arizona)
- Lack of player development (Anyone watch the NFL Draft this year?)
Those who continue to insist that we are being unreasonable by holding our football coach to his own expectations from back when he was hired must be afraid to see what could happen when UCLA finally gets a Howland or Savage type coach in place for our football program. In the span of four years, Ben Howland has undone the damage that Lavin hath wrought and then some, which is nothing short of a miracle. Savage is well on his way to awakening a long dormant underachieving baseball program. We are UCLA, the first university to get to 100 NCAA championships. The two aforementioned coaches have merely helped basketball and baseball join the majority of programs in Morgan Center who are already at the elite status, and have been there for quite some time.
We know what is possible for our football program, because we see success every day in virtually every other athletic program. That is why the expectations are what they are, and we must not back down and allow another Lavin to run roughshod over another one of our programs.
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Ty, you owe me a new keyboard
And remember, this is at worst a PG-13 site. If you're going to put up that sort of picture, you need to have a disclaimer so that it doesn't just jump into your face without giving you a chance to get past it.
I absolutely promise
KD is not as bad as Lavin
Maybe you meant to say...
I have no interest in waiting for him to reach that mark.
I would have been more sympathetic to his cause if it wasn't for 1) the ND breakdown and 2) the unexcusbale Emerald Bowl debacle. Beating sc and then losing to Florida State was the equivalent of lavin's team beating (#1) Cincinnati in the first round of the 2002 tourney and them losing the very next game to (#12) Missouri.
Second Round actually
by SuperBruinMan on May 19, 2007 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Mediocre is not the same thing as incompetent.
Terry Donahue was the coach when I was at UCLA ('77-'81). He was painfully conservative (run-run-pass-punt), lost a lot of games he should have won, wasted a lot of the talent on his teams and pretty much had a lot of the same weaknesses as KD. We were all screaming for his head. And then, my senior year, Freeman McNeill caught that tipped pass against SC....
I can still see the ball tumble into his arms s he reeled it in. One of the great moments.
But I digress.
Do I think Donahue should have been given as much time as he was given to get his act together? No. But he managed to improve. Do I want to go through all that again with KD, even if KD eventually learns the job? No.
But Lavin he ain't.
McNeil and Easley
No one moved like McNeil and no one laid a hit on like Easley. Drafted three and four in the first round.
Uhm ...
From what we hear KD is good guy. He means well. But in terms of record he has proven to be a terrible coach.
And actually he didn't inherit a football program in bad shape. As we have discussed so many times here on BN, Dorrell inherited a program that had plenty of talent. But they were not disciplined. KD simply failed to take advantage of what he inherited and make the best out of it. He failed miserably in his first two years. All along though we heard the excuses about wait till the program is full of KD players (incidentally that was exact same mantra of Lavin supporters who kept telling his critics - just wait till the program is full of Lavin recruits without the bad apples from Harrick years).
Well now here we are. 2001-02 was going to be his make or break year - in which he had to come up with a Pac-10 championship and a tourney run that went past Steve-16s. He came up short and his jig was up.
This is it for KD. If KD cannot get it done this year (win the Pac-10 and beat Southern Cal) the jig is going to be up for him too ... just like Lavin. Otherwise if wait till next year to fire him, the program will crater to an all time low just like it did in Lavin's last season.
So yeah T is on the money here ... there is a reason why we all have the Lavin feeling here on BN.
No. 2 in the city
But it was not so long ago that we owned those SuCsters for 8 straight years. 8 years. That's a lot of Toejams who went through school and graduated without ever tasting victory against UCLA.
Now, we have just recovered from our own 7 year losing streak against Fig Tech.
There is no reason we cannot, at the very least, play these guys head's up and win, at a minimum, every other year against them and/or at the Mausoleum from time to time, and not every blue moon.
I know this thread is supposed to be about Lavin, but we are a good enough, big enough, and strong enough school to not accept settling for No. 2 in L.A. in football.
Actually
I don't think we're asking for the world here. An above average coach should be able to use UCLA's natural advantages to catapult us into the upper echelon of football programs with occasional tastes of elite status. The better the coach, the more frequently we could visit elite status. No team stays at the top all the time, but solid programs never slide down to 7-6 and lose their bowl games in humiliating fashion.
The horror...the horror
Like Fox, I think I was shocked and awed by the Lavin mugshot. I had/have Lavin on the brain.
I know Lavin is a good public speaker and all that, but the guy really is a slimeball. At least no one (that I know of) feels that way about KD as an individual. Not everyone is a great public speaker. And not everyone is cut out to be head football coach at UCLA, either.
I think more needs to be made out of our losses in the bowl games. The bowls we have played in have not been, ahem, exactly major league bowls. A head coach with any pride would have probably declined the invitations altogether (yeah, yeah, I know, there are big bucks behind even minor, crappy bowl games). And the teams we have played in those bowl games have also not exactly been world-beaters.
The fact that KD's teams have performed so miserably in bowls says something about his motivational skills, to say the least.
Maybe not never 7-6
Agreed. And getting stomped by SuC is always...
Counter point
The "criticisms" you're referring to were jokes, made on other blogs - deserving of chuckles, not a defense treatise. It's not like we don't know that KD needs to put up or ship out this season. What we didn't know is that a joke couldn't be made about it without this kind of overreaction from BN.
Seriously: where's the sense of humor?
by HornsFan @ Bruins Nation on May 19, 2007 1:47 PM PDT reply actions
There's simply a difference in perception
Horns Fan ...
Lecturing ...
HF ... I think we are doing fine here ... in terms of putting togther a community that knows how to laugh itself, how to discuss sports based on reality, while conncting with each other in a very healthy way. What we don't need is outsiders coming on here and telling us how we should react to comments that may seem a "joke" to those making them, while from our POV it comes across as nothing short ignorant barbs coming out of mouths of asslcowns on ESPN. You know the very assclowns whose cute "jokes" and idiocy that has driven so many readers to blogs.
That's funny
Lavin's mug is OK with me
However, I cringe at the sight of KD, and when he opens his mouth to speak I feel embarrassment. This is how a UCLA headcoach speaks?

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