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Potential Head Coaches

Bumped from the diaries. Rye posted this on late Sat. night. This initial list (although we have posted a number of them before) deserve lot more attention and feedback today. GO BRUINS. -N

With the (hopefully) impeding firing of Karl Dorrell, now is a good time to take a peak at possible replacements. I only considered those with head coaching experience or assistants who have been a coordinator for at least 5 seasons. Some of these are bigger names, however we all know UCLA does not like to pay their coaches so there are a couple smaller names that we should take a look at if we aren't willing to pay.

HC- Bronco Mendenhall...BYU (40 years old)
In his first season as BYU head coach, Mendenhall took a program that had not enjoyed a winning season since 2001 and put together a 6-5 regular-season record, a second-place finish in the Mountain West Conference standings and earned a trip to a bowl game for the first time in three seasons. Building on the success of his first-ever season as a head coach, Mendenhall and the Cougars posted a 10-2 record in 2006, winning the outright Mountain West Conference Championship with a perfect 8-0 record. An Oregon St. graduate, he returned to OSU in 1989 as a graduate assistant. He also spent 2 years at N. Arizona as secondary coach where they had the top ranked defense in the Big Sky. He was then promoted to DC where his defense as again the best in the conference. He spent time at 3 different schools before landing a gig in New Mexico as a defensive coordinator where he was key in the development of Brian Urlacher and had one of the conferences best defenses. His biggest fault as a potential UCLA head coach is the lack of ties he has to Southern California. He has never coached in the state and has very few players on his roster from the Golden State.

HC- Gary Patterson....TCU (47)
A graduate of Kansas St., Patterson has turned TCU into a nation program since taking over in 2001. Patterson has put together four 10 win seasons in the last five years when no other coach in TCU history has more than two 10-win campaigns. His TCU program is one of only five teams in the nation to record three 11 win seasons in the last four years. An 11-2 record in 2006 included wins over Big 12 opponents Baylor and Texas Tech as well as a 37-7 victory over Northern Illinois in the San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia Bowl. The Frogs' defense ranked second nationally in run defense (60.8 yards per game) and total defense (234.9 yards per game) while placing third in scoring defense (12.3 points per game). The defensive unit, with nine starters returning in 2007, posted its best numbers in all three categories during Patterson's time as head coach. After serving as a graduate assistant at Kansas St., he had assistant jobs at a number of programs before earning himself a defensive coordinator position at New Mexico in 1996. He turned down an offer from Minnesota that would have paid him $2 million per season so luring him to Westwood could be tough.

HC- Chris Peterson...Boise St. (42)
The Boise St. head coach is one of the hottest young coaches in the nation following the Broncos undefeated season in 2006 and win in the Fiesta Bowl. This was in his 1st year as a head coach after having been offensive coordinator for the 5 prior years at Boise St. Petersen began his coaching career in 1987 as the head freshman coach at UC-Davis. In 1989 he became the receivers coach for the varsity, departing in 1992 to become the quarterbacks coach at Pitt. He moved back west in 1993 to coach the quarterbacks at Portland State, and moved over to the University of Oregon in 1995 as the receivers coach. Peterson is the most sensible candidate for the Bruins as he has proven himself and has connections to the west, however he is likely to be tough to lure to Westwood, especially with the salary UCLA usually pays.

DC- John Tenuta...Georgia Tech (49)
The current Georgia Tech defensive coordinator is one of the premier DC's in the nation. GT's defenses have been in the top 25 in total defense, scoring defense, rushing defense and pass efficiency defense in both of the past 2 seasons. Tetuna also spent a season as DC at North Carolina where his Tar Heel defense was statistically, the best in the ACC. He does not have any apparent strong connections to assist in recruiting however.

DC- Will Muschamp...Auburn (36)
This current Auburn defensive coordinator is a former Georgia safety. He was the DC at LSU in '03 where his defense led the nation in scoring defense.  He also spent a year with Nick Saban as the defensive assistant head coach with the Miami Dolphins. He has also served as linebackers coach at LSU and his Auburn defense is currently one of the best in the nation. His connections in the south should bring in recruits from the fertile south.

HC- Ron Prince...Kansas St. (37)
Prince succeeded Bill Snyder at Kansas State following the 2005 season. When he coached his first season at Kansas State he was the third youngest head coach in the nation. In 2006, Prince led Kansas State to its first winning record since 2003 with a 7-6 mark, as well as a berth in the inaugural Texas Bowl. The hallmark win of the regular season was a 45-42 upset of then-fourth-ranked University of Texas on November 11, 2006. Before going to Kansas St., Prince spent 3 years as the offensive coordinator at Virginia. Prince has no connections to the west coast, in fact Kansas St. is the farthest west he has coached.

DC- Mike Trgovac...Carolina Panthers (40)
He is the current defensive coordinator for the Carolina Panthers. Born near Youngstown, Ohio, Trgovac was an All-American noseguard at the University of Michigan before starting his NFL coaching career. Since taking over as defensive coordinator in 2002, the Panthers rank fifth in total yards allowed, trailing only Tampa Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore and Denver. They are also sixth in first downs allowed and rushing yards allowed per attempt, ninth in rushing yards allowed per game and 10th in third down efficiency. Trgovac coached at Michigan following graduation and also coached at Ball St., Navy, Notre Dame and Colorado St. In the NFL, he has also been an assistant in Philadelphia, Green Bay and Washington.

HC- Jim Leavitt...USF (50)
The current head coach at South Florida, he took over the program in 1997 when the program was in 1-AA. He has taken the program up to 1-A and Conference USA to its current place in the Big East. Leavitt has led the program to an impressive 61-39 record. A mega-success in the first four years at the I-AA level (24 straight weeks in national polls)., he has the Bulls now in contention for the Big East title and has garnered national respect after a bowl win in 2006 and a crucial win over Auburn in 2007. The Missouri graduate has been heavily pursued by a number of teams, including Kansas St. and Alabama, who went as far to send him a contract for him to sign, however he has remained committed to the Tampa team he has built.

HC- Greg Brandon...Bowling Green (50)
Brandon was hired as the head coach at Bowling Green in 2002 following the departure or Urban Meyer and has kept up the level of success established within the program. He led Bowling Green to back to back bowl wins in his 1st two seasons for only the 2nd time in school history. In his first season the Falcons finished #23 in the country and finished ranked in his 2nd season, the first time in school history they finished consecutive seasons ranked. Brandon was hired after more than than 22 years of coaching experience at the

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Chris Peterson
The way he was able to coach a lesser talented team in Boise State to an undefeated season and a Fiesta Bowl win over guru Oklahoma is remarkable coaching.  Plus he has Pittsburgh ties??? Last time we took a coach from Pitt it turned out to be a good thing.
Go Bruins!!!

by JKNaka on Sep 15, 2007 7:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Chip Kelly, OC, Oregon.
Wouldn't be the first time an Oregon OC took over for a Pac-10 team. The last one turned out okay, actually. He'll come cheaper than a huge name, and is an impressive offensive mind.

The Pac is a conference where offense wins games. Kelly could take Rashaan, Forcier, or Crissman under his wing like he did with Dennis Dixon this year. I know it's a bit early into Oregon's season to tab him as a sure-fire pick, but if DG wants to be as lame-duck as he was in the last search, Kelly looks like someone who deserves consideration, at least.

Duke and North Carolina called: They want Steve Lavin back. GO BRUINS!!

by Allofmybros on Sep 15, 2007 7:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I looked up Kelly
but my problem with him is he is in his 1st year at the D-1A level. He was an OC at New Hampshire, D-1AA for 14 years. That's a long time not being at the D-1A level and after Dorrell's learning on the job, I want someone with HC experience or at least 5 years as a coordinator at the D-1A level.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Sep 15, 2007 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I understand
that we need someone who is a proven winner. But if DG flakes out on this search, I think Kelly is the best cheap option. Me, I want to buy out Butch Davis's contract at UNC. I know it sounds like USC mindset, but I don't care who we hire. Erickson, Davis, anyone! The program is not winning, and is not "clean" like the sad KD supporters (if there are any left...) try to spin.
Duke and North Carolina called: They want Steve Lavin back. GO BRUINS!!

by Allofmybros on Sep 15, 2007 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

At this point, after today,
flip a freakin' coin. Anybody but KD.

by pocho on Sep 15, 2007 7:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Rick Neuheisel, Baltimore Ravens OC, 46
You left someone out!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Neuheisel

He's gotten his infractions committing out of his system, he's older, wiser and just what we need.  He freaking knows how to win in college and is currently working in the NFL.  His analysis of the WCO working in college is spot-on.

Besides with our compliance department reigning him in he'll be fine!  UW had been on probation for recruiting violations and other NCAA infractions how many times BEFORE Rick??

by Seanny Rotten on Sep 15, 2007 7:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That's a good one
I should have put him on there too

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Sep 15, 2007 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ricky!
You're darned right you should have.  Can you edit the page?  I'm so proud of this suggestion I'm going to go comment on the dumpdorrell board.  They've cross-posted this thread over there.

by Seanny Rotten on Sep 17, 2007 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does Anyone Know
Where to find the post game interviews?

by BruinFan1 on Sep 15, 2007 7:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I want a transcript
I want to read what Coach Toledo's successor had to say.  It will be interesting to count the cliches and the excuses.  Of course he'll say the obligatory phrases about how we were outcoached and outplayed, but he will say it with the voice that coaches always say it even when they really don't mean it.

by Fox 71 on Sep 15, 2007 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Norm Chow... Tennessee Titans (61)
Honestly, it would work for a few years and he's looking for a HC job

by dprodigy19 on Sep 15, 2007 8:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm not interested
in someone who's not going to be around for a while. At 61 I wouldn't be too intereted.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Sep 15, 2007 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a justifiable position
But if UCLA can't get the right guy for the job (which I see as a possibility) a 2-3 year stopgap that helps build the program and attract some different talents becomes a legit option in my mind

by dprodigy19 on Sep 15, 2007 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We're UCLA
we're in the Pac 10, in LA and have every recruiting advantage possible. If we can't get anyone we might as well close up shop.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Sep 15, 2007 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bud Foster, DC, Virginia Tech (48)
12-year DC for the Hokies.  Has been DC, Inside Linebackers coach, and Special Teams coach since 1995.  Fielded units that ranked #1 in total defense in 2005 and 2006.  Winner of the Broyles Assistant Coach of the Year Award.  

Only drawback is that he has no HC experience.  But hell, his college resume is a lot brighter than KD's before he came to Westwood.

by hspigskinfan on Sep 15, 2007 9:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

From everything I've heard
he's plenty happy at Va Tech and is just going to wait it out then succeed Beamer. I thought about him, but I just don't see him going anywhere, especially across the country

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Sep 15, 2007 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry to post twice consecutively
But I feel like I should bring this guy up considering he's on a boiling hot seat and could be available very quickly, and he could drag this program up by the bootstraps very quickly, even if we could never afford him. Who is this mystery man, you ask?

Jon Gruden.

by bruinmike88 on Sep 15, 2007 11:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking about him
but 2 things turned me off.
  1. we won't pay for him
  2. he runs the WCO

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Sep 15, 2007 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

NOOOOOOOOOO
NOT GRUDEN!!

Have some mercy, guys.  I live in Tampa.  I've been subjected to Gruden for the last 18 months.

I'm not going to say Coach Gruden is worse than Coach Toledo's successor, because he is 50 times more articulate.  But his offensive philosophy is EXACTLY THE SAME.  In the opener last week, Coach Gruden (an offensive genius, by the way) managed exactly two field goals through the use of his WCAO.

And remember that this guy is not constrained by NCAA rules about practice.  He has pro players who can devote ALL their time to mastering this wonderful offense.

The scenario that will have me jumping off the tallest building in town would be for UCLA to hire Coach Gruden and for the Bucs to hire Coach Toledo's successor.  I will go out in a blaze of glory, but both UCLA and the Bucs won't miss a beat.  

Coach Gruden would be the abolute worst hire that UCLA could possibly make.  Put that out of your heads.  NEVER SAY IT AGAIN.  Mr. Guerrero might think it's a good idea.

by Fox 71 on Sep 16, 2007 5:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fox, hang on
I too am a Buccaneers fans.  A sad existence it indeed has been over the past couple of years.

That said, I think Gruden would actually make a great college coach, provided he realized he'd need to ditch the WCO in college, which is what worries me.

I hate to say it, but in many ways he reminds me very much of Petey...totally clueless NFL head-coach, but a good motivator.

But who knows, might not need to worry about that - the Bucs won today 31-14.

by CAJason80 on Sep 16, 2007 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't trust him
to ditch the WCO, but if he's willing to do so I'd love to have him. We wouldn't pay what it'd take to get him anyways.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Sep 16, 2007 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pay
I so don't want Chucky to go to UCLA that I'm not even going to bother looking up his salary.  But if we don't have enough money available to get a good college coach, we surely won't have enough to get Chucky.  Remember, Tampa Bay thought so highly of him that they gave up all sorts of draft choices to get him.

Don't get me wrong.  He would be much better than what we have now (as would just about anyone else in the world), but I think  he's wedded to the WCAO.  And it took until this year to get him to put any shotgun plays in the playbook.  He's a "non-adjusting" coach in my opinion.  The win today was helped a lot by the fact that the Aints aren't particularly good.

by Fox 71 on Sep 16, 2007 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gruden
He wakes up to the Notre Dame fight song every morning at 3:10a (no kidding, the guy is a workaholic and his Dad coached at ND).  That being said, I also read where earlier in his coaching career his goal was to be the HC at Michigan. So, if he was interested in coaching in the college ranks I don't think UCLA would be high on his list.  But it would be fun to think of him and his media skills taking on Pete Carroll.  I think the media would be spending alot more time in West LA.

by SinnerBoy 99 on Sep 17, 2007 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, to Jon Gruden
We started talking about Gruden during the summer, in anticipation of KD's past - and continuing - lack of coaching ability.

There are ways to compensate Gruden.  He's young, he's had success coaching young men, and he would be able to quickly assemble a staff like Pom Pom's at $UC.

Better looking than Pom Pom (read TVQ) and I'll bet he would LOVE to beat Pom Pom at everything...

UCLA - the finest public university in the world

by SecondGenBruin on Sep 17, 2007 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

One more:
Mike Singletary, DC, San Francisco 49ers (49).

He's been looking around for a HC job and got really close to landing the Atlanta job last year.  He might be looking strictly for an NFL job, but I think he'd also be great.

by CAJason80 on Sep 16, 2007 12:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Singletary
has never coached in college. I have no problem hiring an NFL guy, but he has to have prior college experience.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Sep 16, 2007 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Major Applewhite, QBC, Alabama
Okay, now I'm just throwing names out, but still. He looks to be on the fast track to a head coaching job. Rice immediately collapsed after he left and Alabama looks potent.
Duke and North Carolina called: They want Steve Lavin back. GO BRUINS!!

by Allofmybros on Sep 16, 2007 5:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Another
who has zero head coaching experience and he's only in his 2nd year as a coordinator.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Sep 16, 2007 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know...
But it seems DG doesn't mind hiring guys with bad credentials...
Duke and North Carolina called: They want Steve Lavin back. GO BRUINS!!

by Allofmybros on Sep 16, 2007 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He hasn't hired anyone without credentials
don't forget he didn't want KD. He wanted to hire Miek Riley but was overruled by Field and the then-chancellor. Every hire he's made has been good thus far. Savage, Howland, Salcedo.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Sep 16, 2007 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rye, I can't give him a pass
He has done a good job just about everywhere, but he is totally shutting his eyes to Football.  Where is his sense of outrage?  Is there an article in which he is quoted as saying that Coach Toledo's successor was on think ice?  Has he had a one-on-one with Coach Toledo's successor?  I haven't heard a peep from him.  I haven't seen a picture of him anywhere.  Is he on sabbatical or something?  Or is he just hoping this will all go away.

Well, it won't go away.  There is no reason to believe that this team will perform any better in the next four quarters as it has in the past six.  And if Mr. Guerrero can't or won't take action to get rid of the current coach, then I reiterate that he is part of the problem, not part of the solution.  

THERE IS NOTHING AT ALL TO BE GAINED BY WAITING ANY LONGER TO TERMINATE THIS UNENDURABLE CONNECTION WITH COACH TOLEDO'S SUCCESSOR.  If there is, would someone please explain it to me?

by Fox 71 on Sep 16, 2007 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A little too fired up for accuracy
think ice is quite similar to thin ice.

by Fox 71 on Sep 16, 2007 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"think ice"
is what the Thinker puts our offense on every time we take the field.

Hmmm... the pun needs a little work, I think.

Duke and North Carolina called: They want Steve Lavin back. GO BRUINS!!

by Allofmybros on Sep 16, 2007 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Dorrell id our coach next season
then I will agree with you, but he's not going to come out and openly critisize our coach or say he's on thin ice just to satisfy the fans. Comments like that will only hurt the team and program. Imagine trying to sell a recruit on a program and coach when the AD has said he's on thin ice? Once Guerrero let him come back this season he had to stick by him...for now. A midseason fire won't do any good either and we'll have one of his incompetant assistants as an interim coach and it will kill recruiting as well. For months committed recruits will be looking at other schools while we wait until the season is over so we can pluck someone out. If we wait until the season is over we can fire Dorrell and hire anothe coach promptly so the new coach can do his best to hold onto the committed recruits. Right now Guerrero is doing the only thing he can. Standing by his coach and giving it the best chance possible to succeed. We won't have anything new to comment about wrt Guerrero until the season is over. Then it is all in his hands.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Sep 16, 2007 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he's the OC
Which is the only job I would want him to have right now.  Since he's not going to leave Bama for the same job at UCLA, I don't think he's a practical solution.

by SuperBruinMan on Sep 16, 2007 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Other NFL Candidates
Mike Marx and Jim Mora Jr. are both viable options.  I would love to see what Mike Marx would do with a wide open college offense - his downfall is his ability to coach defense.
As for Mora, with TW winning up north, he's going to be waiting quite a while for the UW job.  He was on the coaching fast track until he got involved with Vick.
"Failing to Prepare is Preparing to Fail"

by Griffin1 on Sep 17, 2007 6:30 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Martz
has always said he wants to coach in the NFL again and hasn't shown an inkling of interest in college, however it'd be worth a shot. Mora Jr. is another WCO guy soooooo NO

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Sep 17, 2007 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Karl and Marx
They're both WR coaches.

by SuperBruinMan on Sep 17, 2007 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You don't want Bronco
Their game against Tulsa Saturday essentially shows Bronco's weakness. Even though he's a DC, his defenses have constantly sucked. The guy doesn't coach, he administers and while that works with an experienced team, it doesn't for teams that are young and in need of coaching.

I know I bash Whittingham a lot on Block U, but I still think he's a better coach than Bronco.

by JazzyUte on Sep 17, 2007 8:57 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, but this list sucks!
With what we anticipate UCLA is willing to pay, the only candidates listed are HCs of primarily non-BCS schools with no SoCal ties or coordinators with no prior HC experience.

I know our mindset right now is "Anyone but Dorrell". However, UCLA took a chance on a guy in 2003 with no prior HC experience, and look how that turned out. And bringing in a guy with no SoCal ties will, at least in the short term, likely hamper recruiting.

If UCLA goes cheap, we run the risk of doing this all over again in 2011 or 2012.

"if I don't do my job, I'm going to get fired" -Karl Dorrell

by godblesstyus95 on Sep 17, 2007 9:15 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Who do you want to see then?
this list has some of the best young coaches in the country and a couple of the top coordinators. We're not going to pluck a big name from a school and we have to look realistically. Just because he's not a big name and is coaching at a smalelr school doesn't mean he's not the right man for the job. Hell we could have had Urban Meyer from a mid-major program if we took care of KD when we should have. Who would you want us to go after?

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Sep 17, 2007 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess my point is
that with the monetary restrictions you allude to, that there aren't many sure bets out there to turn this program into a consistent winner. I honestly can't think of any. They either are out of reach, or have question marks.

Maybe I'm asking for too much. Maybe the best we can do is hope for a little luck. I just think it sucks that we have to hope for a little luck, you know?

UCLA took a chance on Dorrell on 2003 and it led us to where we are now today. I just don't want history to repeat itself.

"if I don't do my job, I'm going to get fired" -Karl Dorrell

by godblesstyus95 on Sep 17, 2007 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dorrell
was a bad hire from day 1. He had zero head coaching experience and had not even been a coordinator. He was bringing the WCO, something proven to be a failure in college football. Money is a concern with UCLA, but there are lots of good coaches out there for us anyways. No coach is a sure thing. People thought Greg Robinson would turn Syracuse around and look how that turned out. Lou Holtz finished last in the SEC at S. Carolina as well. Even what could be described as "sure bets" have failed. There is risk, but I have confidence that multiple guys on the list can do what we all expect at UCLA.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Sep 17, 2007 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

SoCal ties
Im not sure if that is significantly important enough to be a deal breaker.  Did Carroll have SoCal ties? I actually dont know, its a real question.  Wooden didnt have SoCal ties, although that was a few eras ago.  Harrick did coach at Pepperdine, and Howland was out here as well.  But I think what recruits are looking for is promise ... the promise of playing for something that matters, playing in big games, for WINNING proven high-publicity coaches.  Mid-major coaches like Peterson get major pub these days. It is a negative that Peterson does not have SoCal ties (as far as I know) but that would not exclude him in my book.
editor, DumpDorrell.com ... formerly posted as DumpDorrell

by BruinCore on Sep 17, 2007 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Carroll
He was originally from Northern California and played at Pacific.  He was also an assitant at Pacific for a season (in 1983).  He was also the defensive coordinator for the 49ers in 95 and 96.

Wikipedia

by SuperBruinMan on Sep 17, 2007 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This should be a weekly segment
At the rate the Bruins are going, the only enjoyment many of us are going to get this season is from speculating about potential head coaches.  This should be a weekly segment, discussing the results of some of the more prominent candidates, as well as mentioning new ones making names for themselves.

by McNown to Farmer on Sep 17, 2007 9:20 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Norm Chow
He is a QB magnet.  One of our largest issues is having a sub-standard signal caller.  We haven't had a good one since Cade.  Chow will put together a great offense, and he knows how to call a game aggressively.  

by joeb on Sep 17, 2007 9:47 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree
I know, I know, no HC experience.

But the guy badly wants to be a coach at a big-time program (no snickering about whether or not UCLA is currently "big-time").  His unbelievable success at that other school speaks for itself.

This is the one guy I would take a chance on.  He gets my vote.

by Barnes2JJ on Sep 17, 2007 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't
The guy is over 60 years old now. The way I envision this next coaching search going is us getting a young, qualified coach who is ready to build this program into the consistant BCS calibar program it should be, then sticking around for a loooooong time and keeping it going. At Chow's age, how long will he be around? I know it's tempting to take any coach who can get us some success, but we have to keep an eye on the big picture and the big picture is more than 5 or 10 years long.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Sep 17, 2007 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Joe Paterno
is 108.  If Chow was our guy for 5-10 years, that would be good enough for me.  You can build a dynasty in just a couple of years.  

The age factor is relevant but if he thinks he could go 5-10 years, I would be happy if he provided us with a couple of championships and a couple of Heisman winners during that time period.

by Barnes2JJ on Sep 17, 2007 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't expect
whoever we bring in to come and win a couple national titles and a few Heisman's in 5-10 years. It doesn't happen. Also, you seem to be expecting a lot from Chow, a guy who has never been a HC before. If we do indeed get an older guy, let's get one who's proven himself. If we're going unproven, let's get a guy with more potential.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Sep 17, 2007 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It happened with Pete Carroll
It almost happened with Bob Toledo.

We will just have to disagree on this one.  He gets my vote.

by Barnes2JJ on Sep 17, 2007 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chow is in great shape
I met the man once.  He is a former lineman, and his legs are huge.  The man could probably kick my ass and im half his age.

by joeb on Sep 17, 2007 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would go with Neuheisel...
He has head coaching experience and he is a UCLA alum. With his promotion this season to OC of the Ravens, its obvious the guy can coach.  Plus, he won't bring the West Coast offense to Westwood. The lure of being HC at his alma mater and bringing UCLA back to national prominence would have to be appealing.

Do it DG and Go Bruins!

by amegoro on Sep 17, 2007 10:11 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Agree
Of the choices that we would potentially have a chance to get, I think Neuheisel is the best.  (And frankly, he shouldn't have been pushed out in the first place.)

by Fox 71 on Sep 17, 2007 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

3rd for Rick
Didn't he win several million from UW for wrongful termination and defamation?  Those lawsuits are tough to win.  And didn't the NCAA completely exonerate him??

I say his "slickness" is behind him.  We need to march on Morgan Center and shout "PICK RICK!" fucking NOW!!

by Seanny Rotten on Sep 17, 2007 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Save Ben Olson...
before he becomes another Ryan Leaf.  Bring in Rick Neuheisel!

by eoj703 on Sep 17, 2007 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Steve Mariucci?
I have believed in allowing coaches time to implement their program before firing them.  Have believed in allowing Dorrell this year before determining his future.  Unless he wins Pac-10 and Rose Bowl, time's up.

Now, being a realist, how about Mariucci?  Wasn't he mentioned last year prior to the SUC win as a potential candidate.  I believe his alma mater, Michigan State, wanted him too.  He did a good job at CAL before heading to the pros.  Although does worry me that he is WCO believer, but maybe different view for college, never know.  He is in town on the NFL Network, question is though, can we pay him?

I am hesitant on Neuheisel, aside from bringing old baggage in regards to NCAA pool and recruiting violations (text messaging, phone calls,etc..), he has not been a winner where he has coached.  Did nothing at Colorado and Washington.  Had some success at Colorado with his predecessors recruits. Time in the NFL is a plus, but Ravens have not been close to an offensive juggernaut.   Dude does have charisma, that's for sure.

by Bruin Zealot on Sep 17, 2007 10:43 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ok, another dark horse NFL name
How about Marty Schottenheimer. Yeah, I'm pressing my luck with this one.  But the dude can coach and is a great motivator.   I know he can't win in the playoffs, but his luck could change in college.  Even in defeat, I have never seen his teams quit. Just a thought and don't know if he would be willing to join the college ranks.

by Bruin Zealot on Sep 17, 2007 10:47 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You might be on to something there, after
all Pete Carroll's luck changed by leaving the NFL for USC.  Same could be true for Schottenheimer by coming to UCLA, but he would certainly be a long shot for the job alright.

by bruinhawk on Sep 17, 2007 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another coach over 60
read what I said somewhere in here about Norm Chow. Basically, I want a coach who's going to build this program up and stick with it for a loooong time, not a guy who will build it up then retire in 6 or 7 years.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Sep 17, 2007 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunately, there are no guarantees that any
coach would stick around after finding success here.  Any coach that would bring us back to the national spotlight would also gather interest from the NFL.  If crosstown Petey didn't have such a big ego, he would be coaching in either SF, AZ, Miami, or SD.  As much as we would like to hold on to them, money talks, and we can't compete with the NFL.  

Yeah, Schottenheimer is getting up in years, but you never know. Look at JoePa and Bobby Bowden, still going strong.  Heck, I'll take a 70 year old Dick Vermeil right now.

by Bruin Zealot on Sep 17, 2007 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Again, you are right - being over 60 isn't what it
used to be decades ago.  A good 60+ coach like Vermeil could set everything in place for a younger replacement.  As to wanting a coach to stick around longer than 6 - 7 years is highly unusual.  Very few do, even in the most successful programs. Paterno and Bowden are exceptions.  Even at UCLA I think the only coaches that were here for more than that were Donohue, who won just enough and at the right time to keep his job, and Red Sanders.  

I believe that all other UCLA coaches retired, were fired, or went on to other opportunities after less than 7 years.  

Yeah, I'll be happy if the administration could actually have the money and use it to get a great coach to stay for 6 - 7 years and leave a program in place that could continue to be built on, given support by a savvy administration.

We can dream.

by bruinhawk on Sep 17, 2007 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They may not end up staying a long time
but you have to go in thinking they will. I'm sure SC thinks PC will be there a while longer, just as Ohio St. thinks Tressell, Florida thinks Meyer, W. Virginia thinks Rodriguez and everyone else thinks they will

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Sep 17, 2007 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would be nice if
a coach you hired would stick around a long time.  But in reality, it doesn't happen that often.  I thought Toledo would be here a long time, but look what happened.  You mention Rich Rodriguez, but he bolted for Alabama while at his alma mater, before having a change of heart.  If we could hire a good coach that would last, I'm all for it.

Now, being on the subject of young coaches, how about another name, Jim Mora Jr.  Yes, he is a UW alum, but Ty is there and doesn't look like he is going anywhere for the immediate future.  I like the guy's passion for the game and I think he would make a good college coach.  He is defensive minded, which I think is better in the long run.

by Bruin Zealot on Sep 17, 2007 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not our job to choose bargin coaches
Dumping Dorrell is only the first part of the solution. Not reapeating the Dorrell mistake is an even more important part.

I'd rather not waste time looking at candidates that fit the UCLA "budget". Based on Guerrero's other coaching hires I'm trusting that he will make a hire that is best for the program not just best for the budget. The next coach may not be the highest payed in the conference, but he should be top 3, in his first year.

I would be satisfyed with Neuheisel. I agree with those who feel his shadyness is overblown. And I believe given a shot at his dream job would bring his best results.

Mariucci started Cal in the right direction and wouldn't be a bad choice either.

Chow is extremely intriguing, especially if he smartly follows the blue print that Carrol brought to SC and hires a true Defensive coord.

And if we're taking a look at long shot NFL coaches how about Bill Cower? 1 year off from coaching all together. And now come out west to take over a great program and do his thing without the NFL pressure?

by TCbruin32 on Sep 17, 2007 11:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Cowher
turned down NC State, where his wive is an alum, his daughters go and he lives. I don't think he's going to come out west. I think it's either the NFL or he'll stay retired.

Also, I don't understand why people have assumed that getting a mid-major coach is going the Dorrell path again. Ohio State wen to D-II for Tressell and Florida went to Utah for Meyer. Going after a small coach is fine as long as you get the right one. You're not going to pluck a big name from a school and just bring him in. It doesn't happen, not even for those with much more history than we have. People seem to be desperate for a big name just to make themselves feel better, but big names have failed before and will fail again, just like any other coach. I could care less whether our guy is a big name or comes from a smaller school, just get the right guy and IMO, that right guy is Chris Peterson.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Sep 17, 2007 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't have a problem with mid-majors
I have a problem with basing a hire on a low salary. I know I didn't include him on my list but I would love Peterson. I just don't know much about him besides his last season. However that one season sure does show a lot now doesn't it? Really, just seeing how fearless he was in one game against a Goliath is all I think I really need to know. Even if they had lost, the fact that losing didn't scare him, and his players displayed that same personallity speaks volumes.

Make the right hire! If its a mid-major, fine. But no matter who is next he needs to be offered more than the money we are just wasting on Dorrell.

by TCbruin32 on Sep 17, 2007 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunately, there are no guarantees that any
coach would stick around after finding success here.  Any coach that would bring us back to the national spotlight would also gather interest from the NFL.  If crosstown Petey didn't have such a big ego, he would be coaching in either SF, AZ, Miami, or SD.  As much as we would like to hold on to them, money talks, and we can't compete with the NFL.  

Yeah, he's getting on in years, but you never know. Look at JoePa and Bobby Bowden, still going strong.  Heck, I'll take a 70 year old Dick Vermeil right now.

by Bruin Zealot on Sep 17, 2007 11:36 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

A minor correction: HC- Jim Leavitt...USF (50)
He didn't take over the program, he started the program.  USF didn't field a team until 1997.  Leavitt has built that team from the ground up in 10 years.
Bob O. (Signholder #3)

by TuneMan7 on Sep 17, 2007 11:40 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Leavitt is revered at USF
I don't think he'll go anywhere unless it's for a fortune.  But he is a great coach.  USF is definitely for real and was last year as well.  And he started last year with a freshman QB and a system a freshman could learn immediately.  This year the QB (Matt Grothe) is even better and the team is definitely for real.

by Fox 71 on Sep 17, 2007 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pelini
I suggested Bo Pelini last year and I think his credentials have only gotten better.  He has no HC experience but he gets incredible results everywhere he goes.  At LSU his defenses are consistently in the top 5 in the country.  At Oklahoma he made an immediate impact and improved the defense.  At Nebraska he was almost single handedly responsible for Frank Solich's best year.  As the interim head coach, he led the team to a bowl win after Solich was fired.

He may not be the sexiest candidate but he always get results, no matter where he has ended up coaching.

by Rhapsode on Sep 17, 2007 12:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He was on the list I did last season
the only concern I have with him is he hasn't ever coached out west, but I wouldn't mind hiring him.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Sep 17, 2007 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Salary for UCLA football HC
I reiterate, but believe that DG, and I trust him, will find the best person avaiable and the $$ will be there. Let's not think small here. As I have always felt, if Cal can find, attract, and keep a Jeff Tedford, then UCLA can too. DG found (or lucked into it) BH, Savage, and Salcedo. He is doing a lot right, and once he rids himself of KD, he will do the right thing. That that to the bank!!! And FOX71, that will not include Jon Gruden.
Bill
BillSouthBay

by Mensgym on Sep 17, 2007 1:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank you, Bill
I told you - my worst fear was that UCLA and the Bucs would trade coaches.

by Fox 71 on Sep 17, 2007 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hilarious
trade coaches ... damn that is a nightmare for you! Wow.
editor, DumpDorrell.com ... formerly posted as DumpDorrell

by BruinCore on Sep 17, 2007 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good suggestions
What do you think of Florida OC Dan Mullen? He's a proven coach that has worked with Bowling Green, Utah and now Florida under Meyer. He's only 35 years old, will bring in the spread option offense that will accentuate the talent at the skill positions and would be an exciting recruiter to compete with USC.

by MattMiller on Sep 17, 2007 2:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

An interesing candidate
i've only glossed over his name and he sounded interesting, but maybe i didnt give him the thought he deserved

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Sep 17, 2007 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just a fan...
I'm a huge fan of the spread offense, especially in Florida-Texas-California. Too many great athletes sitting on the bench and not touching the ball.

by MattMiller on Sep 17, 2007 2:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Chip Kelly!
Spread offense! Woohoo!

No, seriously. I want Chip Kelly. His teams were pretty good in 1-AA, and his offenses are SICK.

Offense wins games in the Pac-10. Not defense. We need a former OC.

Duke and North Carolina called: They want Steve Lavin back. GO BRUINS!!

by Allofmybros on Sep 17, 2007 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Norm Chow should be the Head Coach
He's Asian, so that's why he hasn't been able to get a Head Coach's job in Div I.  He's the guy who made Carson Palmer, Phillip Rivers, and Ty Detmer.  Give him a shot, I say.
James C.

by jamesc on Sep 17, 2007 4:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Tommy Bowden
dont know if someone brought him up already, and Im not endorsing him, but someone brought him up on our site.  Should keep him in mind when you redo this list. I think you should keep compiling data and include names that everyone is talking about even though you might not think they deserve to be put on the list. Make the list comprehensive, starting obviously with the most serious and likely.
editor, DumpDorrell.com ... formerly posted as DumpDorrell

by BruinCore on Sep 17, 2007 5:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What about Al Borges?
I know it's a throwback to the days of Toledo, but look what he's done at Auburn.  He's been their OC for the past 5 years and accumulated an impressive record.  He's a California native with UCLA coordinator experience.  Other than his ties to Toledo, why shouldn't we consider him?

by hspigskinfan on Sep 17, 2007 11:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't mind him.
If anything, he has proven success as a genuine coordinator both here and at Auburn.  He may not have been a HC yet, but he has more experience than KD did when he was hired.

M

WHY NOT US? WHY NOT NOW?

by Meriones on Sep 18, 2007 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bowden was never a good coach
He came in to Auburn in 1993 and one good year with Pat Dye's kids.  He got worse from there, and was generally regarded as a poor recruiter.

by CAJason80 on Sep 18, 2007 3:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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