The Dorrellian MVP: Gerard Lawson
I am sorry guys. I made a huge mistake. You see our weekly BN player of the week poll on the right which allows you to pick basically the MVP of our Saturday’s game? Well I forgot to include the obvious MVP for UCLA from last weekend’s game.
Was it KD’s brilliance or the perseverance of our players that led to the deceptive win from Saturday?
Neither.
The athlete who was responsible for saving the clueless Thinker was none other than Gerard Lawson of Oregon State Beavers.
Allow me to take you through play by play of Saturday night's fourth quarter:
- 9:55 left: 4th and 5 at OSU 33: Alexis Serna punt for 51 yards, returned by Ryan Graves for no gain to the UCLA 31 out-of-bounds, Oregon St penalty 15 yard personal foul on Gerard Lawson accepted. Two plays letter Breazell took a slip screen from Olson and took it to the House. Bruins up 19-14.
- 9:10 left: Jimmy Rotstein kickoff for 47 yards returned by Gerard Lawson for no gain to the OrgSt 21, fumbled at the OrgSt 21, recovered by Matt Slater. Promptly Bruins drive down 21 yards for a TD. Score 26-14.
- 8:04 left: Jimmy Rotstein kickoff for 53 yards returned by Gerard Lawson for 18 yards to the OrgSt 39, fumbled at the OrgSt 39, recovered by Rodney Van. 4 plays letter Olson strikes BB for a 30 yard score.
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Brandon is my pick
Actually
Does that first video belong?
It doesn't really ...
I want to reiterate
ND game prediction
ND will be fired up and know that this is their best chance for a win until their last 3 games games. They have seen the film on us, Weiss will have them prepared and they'll give us a hell of a fight.
Halftime: Notre Dame 7, UCLA 6
In the second half, UCLA's superior talent takes over and gives us just enough.
Final: UCLA 20, Notre Dame 10
Dorrellistas rave about 5-1 record and huge victory over Notre Dame.
The realistic rest of us have to listen to it...until the next Dorrell embarrassing loss, which unfortunately is just a Cal game away.
by RealisticBruinFan on Oct 1, 2007 7:33 PM PDT reply actions
Notre Dame is Irrelevant
Let the Dorrelistas have their day, but based on how this team has performed so far this season, they will have some explaining to do when the Bruins have to play Arizona State, Cal, Oregon and SC. While I would like to restore my pre-season hopes that the Bruins will run the table, when you lose to Utah and struggle with the likes of Washington and Oregon Sate, it does not bode well for their ability to compete with the upper echelon teams of the Pac-10. Las Vegas or Nut Bowl, here we come.
This post reminds me of
Rather than give the Bruin players one iota of credit for their defensive efforts, resilience (to battle back after the two fumbles, early deficit), etc. those coaches essentially chose to blame the "inexplicable" missed lay-ups.
Not saying this post and those comments are carbon copies of each other, but the line of reasoning is similar in each instance.
And your post
Where do I
Please see below (AND above)
Say what?
The difference is that Ben Howland can plan for a game and prepare the defense to shut down and bother the opponent. You cannot have fumbles as part of the game plan in football, those are lucky plays that could go either way.
My point was
OSU caught some breaks/made mistakes, and so did we, but we hung tough and the players who bust their collective arses every day deserve SOME credit for that.
I chose to point out a similarity I saw in your rationale and that of Calipari and Self (taking away credit from where it's rightfully deserved). You chose to ignore that, and twist my post. Nice.
This team
Howland's teams gets all the love it deserves because it pulls out huge wins. You mentioned Kansas and Memphis games. In both games UCLA pulled out huge wins against powerhouse programs with a Final-4 on the line. In contrast we are talking about our guys basically getting lucky against a bad team from our conference. There are differences in those hoops win v. the expected win we got on Saturday. If you can't see that difference than you probably don't know anything about college sports.
I'm not talking about
Didn't the D really only give up 7 pts. in this game? Turnovers are a part of the game, and BOTH teams had their share. No, UCLA wasn't directly responsible for SOME of them, but these things happen...much like Bell's two fumbles.
Being able to bounce back (DESPITE the team's leadership) is admirable.
But then again, I don't know anything about college sports.
You sound like you don't
You certainly don't sound like you know anything about this game. There is always other sites on the internets where you can bask in the glory of an awesome Dorrell coached 4-1 football team.
Uh, a little more nuanced than that
Basically, I want to see Dorrell go as much as anyone on here...enough is enough. A blind person could see that this team could very well be a house of cards (if Utah is any indication), and that we've been skating by on a little luck, and other teams' implosions.
I guess I just don't understand why well-intentioned views that are deemed to be antithetical to the BN "party line" are ridiculed unmercilessly, OR the posters told that they "will be gone" without hesitation.
Meriones clearly spells out the code of conduct to most of the new posters when they initially post on BN: personal insults won't be tolerated. At the same time, as recent as a couple days ago, there are those telling other people: "Wake the hell up you complete idiot" (by "joeb") or calling others, "pussy enablers" (by "meow meow"...ironic name).
Why the double standard? Why is THAT nonsense tolerated, but well-spoken dissent is not?
Bottom line: I'm not sure if some posters have the capacity to separate their Dorrell disdain from their feelings toward the TEAM, and that's a shame.
As I read earlier, "Dorrell is NOT UCLA".
Uhm
But if I see a post comparing a Howland coached team to a Dorrell "coached" one, I will call it out as "ignorant" or "asinine." There is no other way to describe any comment that invokes a Howland coached team to make excuses for Dorrell's joke of a program. And if that is too tough for you, then you are more than welcome to stay away.
Agree to disagree
Yes, I feel that your take slighted the team and its efforts to some degree, and I disagreed with it...that's about as far as it goes. I feel/hope that I'm allowed to do that as a guest on BN...that's it.
As a daily (usually SEVERAL times a day) reader, I appreciate the tireless work you do to make this site possible, Nestor. I don't often contribute to BN, but when I do, I'd like to think that a differing viewpoint won't be met with condescending and dismissive remarks.
What credit, anyway?
You're absolutely right
Maze, I respectfully disagree.
(1) Your mention of Calipari and Self, both of whom had teams go against our BB team in the past 2 Tournaments, seemed to draw a clear comparison to our basketball team.
To a number of us, it appears as though you are saying that Self and Calipari should have given credit to UCLA's BB defense, so people here should give credit to UCLA's FB defense. Thus, the comparison between the BB and FB teams seemed pretty clear.
(2) As the Lawson clips demonstrate (and I had the giddy pleasure of watching them again last night on the FSN replay), much of our comeback/ scoring explosion seemed to result MORE from Lqawson's errors than particualrly great defensive stands by us.
I certainly give credit to our D to holding OSU to only 7 points the first 3 quarters. even if OSU is NOT an overpowering offensive team.
HOWEVER, please keep in mind that Lawson, pretty much by himself:
(a) committed a senseless out of bounds penalty that gave us 15 additional yards with which to set up the go-ahead score by our up-until-then poor offense;
(b) dropped a kickoff and started running 5-10 yards before he was ever hit by one of our defenders; and
(c) fumbled another kickoff out of bounds.
I applaud our D's work on the 1st half interception and our special teams on knocking the ball loose from Lawson between plays (b) and (c).
However, we did not even crack 20 points until Lawson decided to have the worst day of anyone since Britney last went to Vegas.
Were it not for the direct drops, mistakes, and errors of Lawson, we would likely have had to wait additional time and take additional yards to try to score. Given the up and way down performance of the offense, there is no telling whether we could have reached 20, let alone 40 points, were it not for Lawson.
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Well, no, nothing
Anyway, it doesn't matter, no reason to argue over this. But the point is, do you feel comfortable? Is our team solid? Can the offense win a game for us on its own merit?
Tasser -- was this to me, or maze?
M
Tasser -- to clarify...
M
Lawson did give the game away
by SuperBruinMan on Oct 2, 2007 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions

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