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Staying (Relentlessly) Positive

There are lot of things to be upset about from this loss.

We didn't need to give up that TD at the end of the first half (which turned out to be a difference).

We made a lot of mental mistakes costing us down the stretch. Our OL got savaged at the times. Our tackling was atrocious in stretches (not sure I have ever seen the SS struggled in same uniform worn by greats like Horton, Goodwin, Henderson, Turner, Darby et al). Our QB looked like a mediocre 3rd stinger (who is not capable of throwing beyond 10 yards) who was reminding many of us as the worst combination of Rob Walker and Brett Johnson (possibly two of the worst Bruin QB from last couple of decades):

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Photo Credit: Rick Bowmer/AP (via ESPN)

BUT ... despite all of that ... I think the positives from this game ... outweighs all of the aforementioned negatives.

Even with an young team that was beat up and physically outmatched ... we fought to the finish. The final score was 24-31. Here is the box score.

The defense took it in the chin early (and other parts of the game) kept fighting. The offense kept chipping away. Even Kevin Craft despite all his struggles didn't give up and kept battling away.

This team is growing up infront of our yes. By "growing up" we are not paying lip service like it was done under previous regime. This team is much better than the team we saw getting humiliated last time it was on the road.

Now what this team has to do ... is finish one of these games. I think it will happen. I despise moral victories and I would advise everyone against celebrating a loss.

However, what we can do ... is to get fired up for the next game and fill up the Rose Bowl with everything we can muster from our collective passion buckets next Saturday because it was obvious to me that our boys gave everything they had tonight.

Oh ... say a prayer for Terrence Austin ... a Bruin warrior (like rest of his team-mates).

GO BRUINS.

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lasting image of this game

has to be Lockett getting trucked by the QB..just showed our inability to tackle.
However, I was very very encouraged with the secondary and the pursuit. The tackling just was awful for most of the night

Bruin at heart

by bucknellbruin on Oct 11, 2008 10:58 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A few thoughts

there are a few key positions on offense and defense that we need to upgrade before we are going to get better. Coaching will only take you so far with players that just aren’t physically talented enough.

The Oline did not look good, neither did Craft. I have no idea how we remain closed. The defense played inconsistantly. Certain players on defense showed even if they are put in position, and use proper technique, they are just not good enough to play at this level.

We need a major talent infusion.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Oct 11, 2008 11:01 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lockett

What can we do about him? Are the guys behind him better or physically ready to step up right now? I don’t have the answer.

by Nestor on Oct 11, 2008 11:03 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's bad.

I doubt theres a better option THIS YEAR. That’s the main point…we have to continue with what we have. He’s clearly not ready to play with the big boys just yet, but it really doesnt seem there’s an heir apparent there like there is at the safety spots.

by bruinhopeful on Oct 12, 2008 1:16 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Work in Progress - Significant Results

Perhaps the pre-season excitement about Neuheisal-Walker-Chow coaching triumvirate raised expectations for this season beyond what is at all reasonable. This has been a bad team for a few years due to lack of direction (except on the defensive side of the ball the last two years). These three coaches are exactly what UCLA needed. They haven’t worked together before. With more time together we will understand what a tremendous group we have at UCLA. There are some key positions where the players they have aren’t ideal for the way they wish to manage a game, but nobody can doubt that Kevin Craft is improving week by week. Sure, we are all frustrated by the mistakes, but Craft is playing and growing week by week.

The team does have significant talent, and they simply don’t quit. When Neuheisal-Chow-Walker have the recruits they want, playing the system that they are developing, the program will sail. I am very enthusiastic, even though we all have to wince from time to time as this season plays out. There are six more Pac-10 games and I look forward to seeing improvement each and every week. Maybe even a win or two along the way.

Even though Karl Dorrell was a class act, and a credit to UCLA, there is a significant difference between what we are seeing on the field this year, and what wasn’t happening in the last few years.

by Kirk 71 on Oct 12, 2008 10:17 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

closed= close

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Oct 11, 2008 11:02 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I love these guys...

Let’s just say this isn’t the most talented BRUIN squad.
Better believe Terrance Austin is in my prayers!

by GogetemBruins on Oct 11, 2008 11:02 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not terrible stats

K. Craft, QB
27-43, 288 yds
1 TD, 1 INT

Says a lot about Chow.

by SuperBruinMan on Oct 11, 2008 11:02 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

AMEN

Craft wasn’t horrible at all. It wasn’t pretty per se, but definitely a managable game. “Game manager” is the backhanded compliment of the decade, but that pretty much sums up what he did, especially in the second half.

by bruinhopeful on Oct 12, 2008 1:17 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Arguably

better stats than Sanchez but week after week without fail, the LAT has Sanchez on its “Heisman Watch.”

I’m not saying that Craft is Heisman material, but rather, I’m just noting the hypocrisy of our favorite rag.

by Barnes2JJ on Oct 12, 2008 8:34 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

don't forget though

Craft could’ve EASILY had 4-5 INT’s, which would’ve cut his yards significantly as well. He can’t make those dumb throws against Stanford; they WILL pick them off. Stanford is probably the most fundamental team in the conference this year.

Bruin at heart

by bucknellbruin on Oct 12, 2008 8:42 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

True enough

The Ducks missed a lot of additional and easy INT opportunities. But the final stats are the final stats.

by Barnes2JJ on Oct 12, 2008 8:47 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A warning

Calling any of our players names … will get your comments deleted.

And please … don’t post comments calling out a coach for playing to win.

Consider it a warning. Thanks.

by Nestor on Oct 11, 2008 11:15 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

theres no way

any one should call out neu’s onside kick. that was the best coaching call of the entire game, hands down. beautifully executed and we were right there to make the play, but it barely bounced out.

with coaching calls like this it encourages me because just wait until he has the talent to back him up. hes not trigger shy and just imagine what he’s playbook will look like when we have the athleticism and talent that we should have had on this team at every position.

something we will definitely need to improve on is that clock management. i dont attribute that to crn, but to the rookie qb playing in his first truely hostile crowd (was at byu and trust me the caffine depraved fans were not the least bit hostile). this is something we must have down especially when it comes time to back our bags for seattle.

by beeru on Oct 11, 2008 11:38 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Even though...

I don’t agree that it was a good call to do the onside kick, where the heck did this rule about the ball breaking the out of bounds plane come from? Even Petros had never heard of it (Not like Petros is THE football authority… but you would think he would at least know about it). That was the reason they said Oregon was able to get the ball and get it where they did.

by legallybruinette on Oct 12, 2008 12:04 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

its the same ruling

thats often called when a team tries to down a kick deep in the opposing team’s territory, but if the ball breaks the plane it results in a touchback. petros didnt know because he was educated at u$c.

by beeru on Oct 12, 2008 12:13 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Even if the ball goes out of bounds

how is it a penalty? The ball clearly went past 10 yds before it was touched, so that was legal. If you are ruling the ball out of bounds, so be it. But why 5 additional yds? Also, UCLA was clearly offside on the kick, which is where the flag looked to be thrown. But that wasn’t what they called. Clearly SPTRs at work. That whole thing made no sense, and Petros and Barry couldn’t explain it.

by Give me a B... on Oct 12, 2008 12:49 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I cant find it in the rulebooks

I cant sleep tonight (hence the excessive posts) and decided to look at the NCAA Football rulebook for an explanation of what happened. My best understanding of what happened was that a) They did not call UCLA offsides, the reason is b) if the ball goes out of bounds on a kickoff, there is a penalty of 5 yards (hence the flag). The reason the penalty is never really enforced is because most of the time the receiving team elects to take the ball at the 40 yard line as this is usually beneficial. As for this whole “broke the plane of the out of bounds,” I could not find anything in there and have never heard of such a think. The only plane that I have ever heard of is the goalline. If there is an “out of bounds plane,” it doesn’t seem that receivers should be able to make tip toe catches along the sideline where they are in bounds but the ball isn’t. I would say hopefully the Pac 10 will have an explanation, but I seriously doubt it.

If you want to browse around for yourself, the kickoff section starts on page 87.

http://www.ncaapublications.com/Uploads/PDF/Football_Rulesadc982b5-03fb-4e27-828c-c2d26b95e6c1.pdf

by bruinponcho on Oct 12, 2008 1:00 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I follow that

but if the ball is touched, and then goes out of bounds on a kickoff, is it still a penalty? My contention is since the ball went past 10 yards and was legally touched by the kicking team, and then went out of bounds (or magically did so with the invisible line rule) the ball should just be awarded to the receiving team where it went out. Or on this play, because the kicking team was offsides, 5 yard penalty and re-kick.

by Give me a B... on Oct 12, 2008 1:09 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not sure

It really is tough to know what actually what happened since the referees gave a very cursory explanation that really didn’t explain anything. I think what they said was that the ball had already passed the imaginary out of bounds plane before our guy tipped it back onto the field so everything after that point in the play didn’t matter. Like I said, I don’t agree with this explanation or find it the least bit convincing, but it is the only plausible thing that makes sense because the tip was after 10 yards and they never mentioned anything about being offsides. I used to be a basketball referee and I guarantee you I would have been embarrassed to make a call like that and over such a conclusory explanation. I think the best way to understand this is just to say “Pac 10 refs” and hold your head in your hands. ;)

by bruinponcho on Oct 12, 2008 1:24 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sort of ridiculous

Nestor,

Generally I agree with everything you say. However, I think it’s a little ridiculous that we can’t even criticize our team or coaches at all. I think our guys showed a ton of heart and believe that T. Austin will be in all of our prayers… not to mention that Terence Scott was on a knee praying for Austin as soon as he went down, showing how much class that team actually has… but to not be able to say that authorizing that early onside kick, which was absolutely stupid, and the absolutely terrible clock management (we should NEVER have that many penalties for not getting a snap off in time) is just downright stupid. Bruin fans have often been called out for being the most demanding fans in college sports… and as such we should be able to both point out the areas of improvement as well as gush our support.

by legallybruinette on Oct 11, 2008 11:36 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the onside kick.

it was so absolutely stupid it too belotti by surprise and would have won us the game.

by beeru on Oct 11, 2008 11:39 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

except that...

it was the wrong call to make that early in the game with such a low rate of success. The later onside kick was the right thing to do. To make that call in the first half is not a good decision… and it led to Oregon getting a touchdown right before the half ended.

by legallybruinette on Oct 11, 2008 11:42 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

an unexpected onside kick has a success rate over 60%

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Oct 12, 2008 12:04 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

umm...

unless you have some sort of authority on this… I don’t think I’m going to take pulling statistics out of nowhere as proof of the success rate. Sorry.

by legallybruinette on Oct 12, 2008 12:09 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Since when is a coach being aggressive a bad thing?

We’ve spent 5 years with a coach who didn’t know what the word aggressive meant. He had the manual of football plays and ran it to a T. So now we have a coach who decides to take chances, and you’re complaining? You can’t be such a hypocrite. If that onsider doesn’t take a weird bounce straight OB, then we recover and CRN looks like a genius. We had some momentum – recovering that kick would’ve put us in the driver seat, even still down by 7.
I think it was a great call. You will NEVER hear me criticize any of the coaches for being aggressive and trying to make something happen. Not after the last 5 years.

Bruin at heart

by bucknellbruin on Oct 12, 2008 8:47 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why don't you ask me where I got them from then?

and try to educate yourself. You are the one who stated it is a bad call to make, without any stats to back it up.

The success rate of an onside kick before the 4th quarter from 1997-2006 was 71%. I don’t have data for last year.

here’s the link, paragraph 5:

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Story.asp?STORY_ID=14590

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Oct 12, 2008 9:33 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Solid find

Just incorporated this in my Sunday thoughts.

by Nestor on Oct 12, 2008 10:43 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If it works, he's a hero and we might be tied

If it doesn’t he’s a loser. I’ll take risks even though I don’t agree with them, because he’s playing for the win. Maybe it’s not statisically the best choice, but it’s nice to have someone who will roll the dice to win it

by bruinhopeful on Oct 12, 2008 1:19 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

who says

who says its the wrong call, papadakis? theres no question the last one was the right thing to do, it was the only thing to do.

heres why it was the right call. we just had bell go down, who is the teams greatest asset. without him theres absolutely no way for our running game to do anything because of the horrendous shape of our oline. w/ no running game = no play action. no play action = no chance of throwing 8 yds or more. so we are stuck with the unders and with a 3rd string quarterback who has been throwing balls to the opposing team better than he has been hitting his own receivers. need i say there wasnt much hope for our offense, except for that lone touchdown. the announcers touched on this and its something that, unless youve been to autzen you wont believe, but having that stadium quiet down is pretty much the best feeling in the world for an opposing team. especially for a struggling rookie quarterback. if we recover it is a HUGE, HUGE boost in our teams confidence. not only that but our d at the time had figured out a way to slow down the spread.

by the way, the reason the onside kick has such a low rate of success is because teams mostly do it when opposing teams know its coming.

by beeru on Oct 12, 2008 12:04 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

although I love Kahlil Bell

and do think he’s an asset to our team… he is obviously still not completely healthy. Even before his injury tonight he wasn’t carrying for many yards and was not breaking through tackles. In the past he has been extremely aggressive so this could be because he didn’t want to risk further injury. His stats for the whole night were 14 ATT for 32 YDS with an average of 2.3 yards a carry. Coleman was at least able to break some tackles… but this is beside the point. Our defense carries us for the most part and has for the past couple of years… it is likely better to count on them to do a 3 and out and get the ball back then risk an onside kick before the 1st half is even over.

by legallybruinette on Oct 12, 2008 12:18 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What if

Believe me beeru, I wish we would have recovered that first onside kick and kept momentum with us, but to say that if we had recovered it we would have won the game…little out there. It is nice to play “what if,” but there were probably way more what ifs that should have gone Oregon’s way than ours (dropped interceptions, the PI call that led to our 2nd TD).

by bruinponcho on Oct 11, 2008 11:46 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ya

it was probably a little over zealous to say we win the game, but hey thats my relentless optimism coming out…

by beeru on Oct 12, 2008 12:06 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't lecture us

On how to run this blog.

We deleted multiple posts from this thread for calling our players and coaches out as gutless.

That is nothing short of disgraceful and if I see that from posters again, he or she will be gone.

Again, don’t tell us how we should moderate this place. Thanks.

by Nestor on Oct 12, 2008 6:31 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

On Side Kick

Certainly traditional game management would not have included an on-side kick at that point.
How many of us would be writing what geniusus Chow and Neuheisal were if UCLA had recovered that kick – which they certainly had an opportunity to do. The kick wasn’t just a surprise to UCLA fans, it was a surprise to the Duck Defense, and nearly worked. Predictable conservative game management works- look what Donahue did for nearly 20 years. But we have a team this year that needs to take chances to be in a position to win, and this was a reasonable chance at a game turning play. It was nearly perfectly executed.

by Kirk 71 on Oct 12, 2008 10:23 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Geniusus

Obviously I’m not one with that spelling error.

by Kirk 71 on Oct 12, 2008 10:24 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

legallybruinette

The warning in my comment was directed torwards couple of commenters who called out our players and coaches as “gutless.” We will not tolerate that.

Also any personal attacks on moderators will not be tolerated. Consider yourselves as warned and it will be your last one. Thank you.

by Nestor on Oct 12, 2008 12:52 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nestor...

I apologize for saying what I did as it was uncalled for… but if you look at my original post all I was saying is that Bruin fans are well, fanatical and sometimes the best fans aren’t those that praise their team unconditionally. Since you do delete posts and then make warnings, I didn’t see the ones that you were commenting on initially and thus didn’t know what you meant by “calling out” our coaches and players. Thanks and sorry again.

by legallybruinette on Oct 12, 2008 1:25 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Its all good

I am also sorry. My rapid fire comment (after deleting two really bad comments) at 2:15 was not precise when I wrote “don’t post comments calling out a coach for playing to win.”

I have no problem with folks offering constructive criticisms and offering different takes disagreeing respectfully. What I meant to wrote was we would not tolerate any kind of rash posts calling our coaches names for their playing to win.

I should have been more concise. But it was 2:15 am … and I was bummed out over a tough loss.

So its all good.

Keep it coming.

by Nestor on Oct 12, 2008 3:16 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just really hope Austin is okay

That was an agonizingly long break they took.

by Tydides on Oct 11, 2008 11:41 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wonder how it will effect Craft

When that play happened, it reminded me a lot of the Arizona Cardinal game a couple of weeks ago where Kurt Warner threw a high ball that led to Anquan Boldin getting injured. Kurt Warner said that he contemplated retiring after that because he felt so bad that his throw led to Bodlin getting hurt. Craft seemed to be ok for the rest of the game, but for a QB who is already a little hesitant, you have to worry how this might effect him.

by bruinponcho on Oct 11, 2008 11:48 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Perhaps it will affect him positively

That pass was nearly uncatchable, but Austin almost made a great play. Hopefully Craft will redouble his efforts to maintain his accuracy.

by jayzien on Oct 11, 2008 11:55 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let's hope so

Also, I know Oregon was playing more of a prevent defense at the end, but the pass to Moya in the seam was definitely a positive development. I know he apparently doesn’t like to throw deep, but if he does throw a few deep, it will open up all the short passes that all too often today were being thrown into (at least) double coverage and seemingly always in danger of being picked off. On a positive note, Embree continues to impress me and I look forward to having him around as a playmaker for the four years no matter who the quarterback is.

by bruinponcho on Oct 12, 2008 12:25 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

honestly...

Kevin Craft = Cory Paus…Throws an ugly ball and can’t throw the long ball…

by eoj703 on Oct 12, 2008 12:32 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

eh...

That might be true, but I would still take Craft any day over the carousel of ridiculousness we had at the position last year.

by bruinponcho on Oct 12, 2008 12:37 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

really though...

Ben Olson for the entire 2007 season: 71 completed over 147 passes (48) for 1040 yards. Kevin Craft tonight: 27 completed of 43 (62) for 288 yards AND he’s healthy (crosses fingers). It’s an improvement I will take. Plus, the kid has heart and knows when he screws up; you can see it in his face. He does, however, NEED TO START LOOKING AT THE PLAY CLOCK!!! He’s good and he seems to do good things for the team. He’ll just get better as soon as he realizes we’re the blue and gold team… not green and yellow, not orange and white… ;)

by legallybruinette on Oct 12, 2008 12:38 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the post deleted my percentage signs...

in the parentheses it is supposed to be 48 percent and 62 percent.

by legallybruinette on Oct 12, 2008 12:39 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The difference is

Cory Paus played on good teams (especially in 2001) and was always 1st string. It would be unfair to say Craft is this team’s only weak spot.

by SuperBruinMan on Oct 12, 2008 6:52 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It honestly

could have been much worse. Craft should have had several picks. He was under pressure most of the game and sacked too many times. Some of the passes were scary. I’m very surprised bruins put points on the board with the o-line. There is just no room to run. 1.6 yards per rush.

Clock management was terrible and the penalties were costly. I like the fact the staff wants to take some chances, it’s a nice change. I do however question the onside kick. The defense was playing well and it’s not an easy place to comeback from multiple score deficit.

I was really hoping they could pull it out for Austin, bruins made it interesting at the end. There were some positive numbers. Bruins had more first downs (20-18), 9-20 on thrid downs while holding ducks to 2-13. Bruins almost matched them in total yards, 365-349. I never would have guessed that playing in Eugene. Something to build on.

Time to focus on Stanford.

by Bruins095 on Oct 11, 2008 11:55 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Credit goes to Chow

Even the announcers were commenting that it was at least interesting to see what a gifted offensive coordinator can do with a team devastated by injuries. Chow is a genius.No running game. No long ball treat- at all. And we lose by 7 points. Great coaching all around.

Remember that this onside kick was totally unexpected. And as such had a much better chance of success than one that would be used in desparation. I mean does anyone think we had a sure win if we had not tried the onside kick? Credit Neuheisel for showing confidence in his team. It could have been a momentum changer.

That was a helmet first hit on Austin. It was uncalled for in my opinion. And I hope Austin is good for the next game.

Go Bruins !!

by northbaybruin on Oct 11, 2008 11:56 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good news on Austin

according to Dohn’s blog, tests were negative and he is expected to travel home with the team.

by Bruins095 on Oct 12, 2008 12:12 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LA Times reported the same in their story

Great news.

"The greatest glory in living lies not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Nelson Mandela

by bruinchick on Oct 12, 2008 12:17 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great to hear

but I wouldn’t count on him for the next game.

by Give me a B... on Oct 12, 2008 12:57 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great news

Thanks for sharing it.

I was hoping the injury was not serious. I would give him some time off for bravery and valiant effort.

We played hard. Still did not win. I agree with Chairman Nestor. Lets get ready for Stanford. They are getting to be a bigger fish.

by northbaybruin on Oct 12, 2008 1:08 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When you look at all the mistakes

It is amazing that we even had a look at that game at the end. I mean, at least 2 Bruins had their hands on that last onside kick, before Oregon recovered.

by Give me a B... on Oct 12, 2008 1:04 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"You play to win the game"

My favorite quote from the most indequate coach in the NFL (good ol’ Herm)

CRN coached to win. I don’t agree with the onside and the momentum of the d, but I can totally understand it. It was a move to win the game. Better this than punting on the 40 with a shot to win the game, as we’ve seen in years past.

I don’t see Craft as horrendous in the least. If you look closely, the receivers weren’t wide open, and he did the best to not turn the ball over, which kept us in the game. His scrambling, on the other hand…for another day.

It was a game you can take a lot away from. I don’t see why everyone’s so down on this one at all. Way more positives than negatives this time, and I definitely lean towards the negative usually.

PS Hope austin is OK. I was at a bar with no sound, and it looked horrendous.

by bruinhopeful on Oct 12, 2008 1:14 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This game shows

we can still cause some damage in the Pac-10. To go into Autzen and give the Ducks all they wanted, we can play anyone, anywhere in the conference. Something we weren’t saying before this game. We are now 1-2 in Pac-10 play, but suddenly many more upcoming games look quite winnable. This was a winnable game for us. Aside from the diving catch in the endzone, they basically had no passing game.

by Give me a B... on Oct 12, 2008 1:15 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Progress

This take is solely based on what I have read about the game last night from the MSM, other Bruin boards, and the comments on this site. Due to difficult family circumstances, I am in rural West Virginia with a television situation that border’s on non-existent (about 10 stations with basis cable). No FSN. So I missed the game.

Woke up this a.m. to check the score and was disappointed at the outcome, but somewhat relieved at the score. The Bruins were expected to lose by 20+ and they ended up only a TD away.

The Bruins are 2-4. I think most reasonable fans closely following the program over the last decade would have expected 3-3 at this point, with losses to UT, BYU, and Oregon. The Bruins are only one game off from what people expected, despite losing Bell (he is still not 100%), Everett (did he play yesterday), Paulson, all in the first Q of the first game.

Notwithstanding this, I am seeing these type of comments (mostly on other boards):

Craft looks lost and scared
Coaching sucks (bad onside kick decision)
I am tired of losing
Bad penalties, delays of game
Bad clock management at the half
Running Game Sucks; Terrible Line
Bad tackling; Lockett

I don’t know if the people posting these types of comments are first year freshmen with delusions of granduer or Dorrell apologists, but the lack of perspective is appauling to say the least. Let’s looks at each of these complaints (arguably, it is easier for me to do this despite not seeing the game last night because I can focus solely on the results, and not be swayed by the emotion of the game):

Craft looks lost and scared.

Looks at the numbers. He threw for over 280 plus yards. His percentage is around 60%. 1 INT, which I guess came on a play where Austin was injured—thank God he appears to be OK—where the ball bounced off Austin’s hands. These are solid numbers by a kid who came to the program 7 months ago and was never expected to see the field. His arm strength is what it is—would you rather see another performance like the first half of UT. I for one would rather see short passes that work that long passes that end up i the hands of our opponent. Our other Qbs are not ready. Don’t you think CNC would be using them if they were ready? I have read comparisons of Kevin Craft to Brett Johnson. From someone who was a student in 1989 and cosely followed that team, those comparisons are simply laughable.

Coaching sucks (bad onside kick decision in 3rd Q).

If the play works and we go down the field, score to tie the game 14-14, and gain all the momentum, CRN is a genius. Hindsight is 20/20. I’ll take my changes with a coach who is willing to roll the dice to try to shock the world in the most hostile venue in college football.

I am tired of losing.

Anyone who thinks that the Bruins could erase the past and turn into a contender in less than one season is delusional, especially considering the injuries. As mentioned above, the Bruins are only one loss (or one fumble against Fresno State) from being where most expected, and one poster (on another site) compared the Bruins unfavorably to Harbaugh’s Standford team. Well, Jim Harbaugh’s team was 3-9 last season (with a glorious, shocing victory against SUC). They are coming around and are much improved with a coach who is very similar to CRN. I foresee a Stanford type season for the Bruins next year. I also foresee the Bruins beating Stanford next week.

Bad penalties, delays of game.

The Bruins are much improved over last season, where multple delay-of-game-penalty-games occurred repeatedly AT THE ROSE BOWL!!! And the Bruins never varied the snap count last season—all snaps were “on one”—so this never needed to be discussed in the huddle. I am willing to give the team a pass at the exceedingly loud Autzen. Because of that venue, this one game cannot be used as a measuring stick to compare progress from last season.

Bad clock management at the half.

From what I can tell, CRN tried to move the ball toward a score with less than 2 minutes left in the first half (while down 7-0), and was unsuccessful in goin so (without running out much clock). As such, the Ducks got the ball back with enough time to score and go up 14-0 at the half. As stated above with respct to the 3rd Q onside kick, I will take my chances with a coach who is playing to win the game rather than go into a shell, take a knee, and run out the clock. If the Bruins score and tie the game at the half, everyone is praising CRN.

Running Game Sucks; Terrible Line

Anyone who thinks that this isn’t a work in progress is living in dream land. These guys had never played together before as a unit and had next to no experience before this seaon. Some of the guys with experience are now injured or not playing. The line was improving until WSU last week, where they stcked the box. With respct to this game, it is not unreasonable to discount the effect of Autzen on the line’s ability to communicate and work as a team in that environment. The line is getting better and will continue to get better. Bell is clearly not 100%. Dean and Carter are hurt. I foresee a much improved effort next week against Stanford.

Bad tackling; Lockett.

There is no excuse for bad tackling. Although I didn’t see the game, I recall some of our more promising, young players missing tackling in weeks past (Ayers, Moore). These guys are true freshmen oftentimes trying to tackle guys that are 3 or 4 years older, and more physically mature. There is a big difference between an 18 year old kid and and 22 year old man. As for Lockett, the prevous coaching staff left the cupboard bare. His backups are all freshmen.

In summary, 31-24, is better than what many predicted. I didn’t see the game and all the warts, but from an objective review of the stats and from reading what others posted (chicken littles aside), it appears that we are continuing to move in the right direction.

It is not the time to panic and point fingers. Keep supporting the team and these kids. The effort is there and, I believe, will continue to be there end the last whistle of the last game. They wil not quit. Continue to be relentlessly positive. My passion bucket is still full and I hope true Bruin fans’ passion bucket remain so as well. This team will continue to improve and, I believe, will split the remainder of its 6 games (unlike past regimes, which started fast and faded in November). That would put them at 5-7, which is right where most expected they would be.

Looking forward to a solid effort against a much improved Stanford team next week.

GO BRUINS!

by orlandobruin on Oct 12, 2008 6:25 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Orlando

Please put this great post up in the FanPost section.

by Nestor on Oct 12, 2008 6:33 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I really hope those that are tired of losing

Were first in line in trying to oust KD. If not, then that complaint clearly rings hollow for obvious reasons.

by Tydides on Oct 12, 2008 8:50 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Orlando

great points here; the only thing is with Craft. It’s understandable because you said you didn’t see the game, but the stats dont tell the whole story for KC. He threw several (I’d say almost 10) balls right at Oregon defenders. I don’t mean they were just the closest player. I mean the ball hit them on the hands/chest. If they hold on to half or a third of them, we’re looking at a 41-14 game here. This was KC’s best statistical game, but I think he played better against WSU. Granted, they’re not nearly as good, but a good team shouldn’t make the QB throw the ball right at them.

But as for the other points, I agree with every single thing you said.

Bruin at heart

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