Aggression Comes With a Price
Bumped. GO BRUINS. -N
Everyone think back to this play three years ago: 4th and 2, 6:00 left, UCLA down 40-28 to Cal on their own 42. Out comes the punt team. Boos are raining down on Dorrell, and what does he do? Fakes the punt.
This was maybe the only time I truly saw and appreciated Dorrell taking a chance and mixing it up a little. As we all know, Jarrad Page ran the fake punt for 38 yards and we came back to beat Cal 47-40. After the game, Bruin fans everywhere were complimenting KD for the gutsy fake punt call.
Well here's a scenario. What if it hadn't worked? What if Page had been stuffed at the line for no gain? The fans would've been irate, asking KD why he didn't just line up and do some sort of PA bootleg that had worked for us all season long. With guys like Olson, MJD, and Lewis, why not just flat out go for it?
The answer to this is because sometimes a coach HAS to mix it up. Cal was clearly not expecting the fake punt, and were clearly not expecting a coach like KD to pull it out.
So where does this all fit in with last night? It's simple: we cannot blame Neuheisel for risking a mid-game onside kick.
Think about what happens if it works. Best case, we go 60 yards again and tie it up, taking ALL of the momentum and life out of raucous Autzen Stadium. Worst case (besides a Craft INT), we go 3 and out and Perez pins them back at their 20 - just where they would've been with a deep kick.
But of course, that didn't happen. The ball took a strange sideways bounce that only a football could take, and bounced straight out of bounds. So now Oregon has the ball on our 40 yard line. Out come the boo birds to blame Neuheisel, calling him an idiot and asking why he would take that risk when he didn't have to. So here's my question for everyone that says that: You want Karl Dorrell back? Because there is NO way KD calls for that onside kick. He would've kicked it deep, and seeing how Oregon's offense went 40 yards with zero effort seems to me they probably could've gotten 40 additional ones of top of it. Clearly, we'll never know what would've happened if we had kicked it deep. But when a less talented team is in the game with a more talented team, it's up to the coaches to CREATE situations that favor us. And thats what CRN tried to do.
The point of all this is that being aggressive comes with risk. For all of you that complained about KD and are now complaining about CRN - hate to break it to you, but you have to have one or the other. Either the tightly zipped Dorrell, or the wide open Neuheisel. Criticizing aggression after 5 years of criticizing conservative calls doesn't work. If we want an aggressive team and HC (which we ALL did a few months ago), we have to accept that there will be times when a play goes wrong. Just like going for it on 4th and 1 instead of punting it, just like accepting a holding penalty on 3rd and 12, CRN is showing that he has faith in his team and is willing to take a risk. And no matter the result, I'd take that over a coach that called plays even a 6 year old could've predicted.
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An onside kick in quarters 1-3 has a 71% success rate
in the NFL. I don’t have any NCAA data. see paragraph 5 of the eagles story below:
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Story.asp?STORY_ID=14590
Its a nobrainer its the right call when you are playing a better team on the road and will need some luck to win the game.
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Oct 12, 2008 9:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmm...
I would say that, if they had won by a field goal, then this is a game changer. But if they can drive for a touchdown then they could have driven for a field goal and won by 3.
NFL kickers are better, and an onside kick is hugely dependent on how the ball is kicked. So I would speculate that it is a lower percentage in the NCAA.
by dokein on Oct 12, 2008 10:14 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Playing to win
It was a good call. No question. It’s Autzen stadium, you’re on the road, you got a bunch of rabid ducks in the stands. You have got to try to take the fans out of the game and play to win the game.
by apbruin on Oct 13, 2008 9:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Disagree
I don’t think it was a good call, and I am sort of shocked that 53% of people objectively think that an onside kick at the time was the “right call” . This was a tough road game, but it was winable. I disagree with the premise that we needed “luck” to win this game. In fact, that one play could have theoretically cost us (we only lost by 7), and our defense played decent when given field position to work with. We were only down 7 at the time for crying out loud. That is not a time for desparation in my opinion.
This game was winable. One big reason we lost is because we took a sucker punch to end the first half, giving up a free touchdown. That was unacceptable. Oregon should never have got the ball back to end the half. I didn’t like the calls on tour last first-half drive, and it was Oregon who played agressive to great success. One first down is all we needed. And then our defense was just unable to keep the ball in front of them. My sense was that those last 3 mintues could be blamed in part on the coaches — even if the drive summaries don’t necessarily reveal a clear bad call. That was just my sense, though I’m having a hard time putting my finger on why.
Indeed, I must say, after watching the games this year I have not been overwhelmed with our in-game coaching (which apparently puts me in the minority). It’s not so much single plays that I remember (though I put the onside kick into the bad call category), but a sense I’ve had that the coaching could be better. Little things like our failure to throw the ball downfield (or even try—you know, actual agressiveness, not ,we need some-luck-onside-kick-agreesiveness), the Offense’s knack for delay of games and wasted time outs, and our defense’s giving up big plays. Also, Craft’s continuing to throw the same kinds of bad passes. Oregon should have had 6 or 7 interceptions in the game, yet Craft continued to make the same mistakes. I get it, Craft is young, and we’ll have to take some lumps with him. Fine, and totally acceptable. Yet, when he makes the same kind of mistake over and over again (delays of game and crazy passes into coverage), I have to look to the sideline. Is there nothing we can do to fix this?
My season grade for coaching is B / B-. Not horrible, but less than I hoped for to date. But I have seen improvement in the team, so I give credit to the coaches for that. I can’t give any credit for changing the culture of the program yet, because diagnosing such a change is like diagnosing a recession—a lot of people say a lot of things at first, but you can never tell for sure till you look back after a year or so.
by rfirpo on Oct 13, 2008 10:16 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The coaching decisions during the game have been just fine.
However simple things like tackling on defense, HOLY CRAP! I was able to see most of the 2nd quarter and a bit of the 3rd Q and the end of the game. In what I saw I saw at least three third down conversions that would have been prevented if UCLA was able to tackle effectively. I didn’t write down jersey numbers so I have no idea if it was the same defender blowing a tackle each time or even what position they played but I saw Masoli slip out of at least 2 3rd down tackles that would have stopped him for 4th and instead he scampered for a 1st to keep drives going. UCLA’s been tackling like this since the Miami game of ’97, I mean defenders will be in perfect position and FFFFFT the ballcarrier just spins or even wiggles the hips a little and GONE! Do we not drill tackling at Spaulding??
by Seanny Rotten on Oct 13, 2008 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
throwing the ball deep
I saw an interview with Norm Chow (don’t have a link; I have no idea where I saw it) a couple weeks ago in which he said that he tries to call at least one deep ball per quarter to stretch things out. The problem is that Craft doesn’t have the time in the pocket to wait for the deep pattern to develop. Since the staff has been preaching that Craft not force passes, he’s clearly not going to just chuck the ball downfield and hope our guy catches it. The coaches don’t want KC to throw it unless he knows the WR is open, and he doesn’t have the time to wait that long. That’s the reason for all the underneath stuff – it’s not for lack of trying.
by bucknellbruin on Oct 13, 2008 10:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeap
I linked that story in last couple of weeks. It can be dug up through search pretty easily. I specifically made the point that right now throwing deep is not exactly an option considering how Craft is not getting any time. He has a DL on his face seemingly every time he takes a 3 step drop. Chow has devised a short passing scheme specifically around the vulnerability of our patchwork OL.
Some people are expecting perfect coaching and concern trolling every decision based on that expectation.
by Nestor on Oct 13, 2008 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
with all this
and some folks still think brehaut enrolling early in the spring is a shaky decision? he can’t get here soon enough as far as i’m concerned…
is osaar still trying to be a qb? i thought he was going to develop into a serious threat a wr but i haven’t heard a peep.
Across The Face
by rb bruin on Oct 13, 2008 11:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nothing wrong with the coaching
I thought overall it was a good coaching plan by Neuheisel. The problem was the Bruins had a slim margin of error despite Oregon’s QB stinking at passing the ball. Unfortunately, the guy was too quick for the defense, which played well only in spurts but was not good enough for a win. I didn’t get the announcers saying it was poor clock management at the end of the first half as if it was Neuheisel’s fault. If anything, it was Craft’s boneheaded mistake of throwing the ball instead of running it on that 2nd down that stopped the clock that doomed the Bruins. That dumb move forced the Bruins to have to convert on third down or else the Ducks would get great field position. Too bad Craft just made a bad mistake at the wrong time. I hope he grows from this experience and gets better for the next game, because that patch-work offensive line was just brutal to watch.
by UCLA4Life on Oct 13, 2008 9:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
My coaching philosophy
Some get by with brains, others get by with guts.
The best have the right combination of both.
Dorrell had neither. I believe CRN does have both, but that will never mean perfection. I don’t agree with every move Coach Howland makes either but he certainly deserves the benefit of the doubt. As the team gets better this season and the next few, we’ll be praising CRN more often then not for making the “right” gutsy call.
"Someday we'll look back on this and it will all seem funny" - Boss
by TCbruin32 on Oct 14, 2008 11:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
the more i think of it
the more i’m ok with CRN’s call. He’s using the element of surprise and doing the unexpected. He’s keeping the other team guessing and that’s fine with me. It’s sort of like how he mixes up the snap counts; KD refused to do it, but CRN does it for the legitimate chance of drawing the defense offsides. anyway, he hasn’t done anything to lose my trust in him.
by UCLAbruin920 on Oct 14, 2008 4:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
kd never did it
because he could never get his o-line to not jump. helps now having a true coach…
by beeru on Oct 14, 2008 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
besides the cal fake punt
a similar situation was dorrell’s other fake punt against ASU in ’06 (#9 on the list). we could have easily had the same result in our last game.
by beeru on Oct 14, 2008 6:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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