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Spaulding Roundup: Starting The (Washington) Week

Let’s start the week with a HT to this week’s obvious storyline:

Neuheisel said on Sunday that he hadn't thought much about the trip back to Seattle but now that it's here, it had crossed his mind.

"I truthfully have not thought about it for a long time," Neuheisel said. "Now that it's here, I am forced to think about it.

"What happened between Washington and myself is water under the bridge. It's come and gone and hopefully both sides learned lessons."

We have discussed this topic enough over here in our UCLA-Washington game page which already features number of posts on CRN’s return to Seattle and the "Hate-a-palooza" that will be hyped up by the traditional media in LA, Seattle and across the country.

Looking back at last Sunday, CRN Was encouraged with the performance of our defense and return team on kickoff coverage:

After watching videotape of UCLA's loss to Oregon State, the ever-optimistic Neuheisel said he was encouraged that his team is still playing hard. He liked the defense and the kickoff coverage.

But offense was another story:

Linemen could not open holes for the running backs. That forced the quarterbacks to throw more often. And that resulted in turnovers.

Starter Kevin Craft had two interceptions and fumbled while scrambling. Reserve Chris Forcier also had a pass intercepted.

"We're too inconsistent to be considered a good team," Neuheisel said.

Well unfortunately CRN doesn’t have a lot of options when it comes to QBs. LAT reported this am that BO is still experiencing "pain" in the foot he broke before the season and is "weeks away from being able to play."

As for those who are clamoring for Forcier (which often includes yours truly during the game thread), here was CRN’s blunt assessment to Dohn:

As for the QBs, I asked Rick Neuheisel what is keeping Chris Forcier from getting meaningful snaps, and he bluntly said Forcier doesn't have a firm enough grasp on the offense.

If I am reading the tea leaves correctly, I am getting the sense that both Chow and Neuheisel do not believe Forcier fits in their system. From what I have seen in Chow’s offenses over the years at BYU, NC State, Sothern Cal, and now at UCLA, he wants QBs who will drop back and at least attempt to read defenses before going with the available option. Forcier for all his fault at least seems to make an attempt in dropping back and reading the defenses. I know he is still making the same mistakes he did earlier in the season, but he is making an effort to run the system. While Forcier from what I have seen this last game and in previous times he appeared during mop up duties, does not any time in testing out his speed (which is impressive).

I think what Chow and Neuheisel might be doing is taking the long term view with our offense. Having Craft in there doesn’t necessarily mean that Craft is going to be returning as a starter as next week. It means that it allows our receivers to have opportunities to run their routes and engage in blocking the way the coaches want them to when Craft does make the right reads. I know the offense is incredibly frustrating and agonizing to watch right now (I can only imagine how it drives Chow and Neuheisel batsh!t insane), but I think the constant repetition with Craft who to me appears as a more Chow/Neuehisel systems-QB than Forcier (based on what I have seen from Forcier in his brief appearances and notes from folks whose observations I trust from practices).

I think the experiences our receivers and backs are getting this year playing under Chow’s system will be beneficial when we get a QB like Prince, Brehaut or Crissman, with better physical tools plugged into the system. BTW the QB competition this spring at Spaulding is going to be incredible to watch. I don’t think Chow or Neuheisel would hesitate from increasing Foricer’s reps during practices and during games if they believe Forcier can help them develop the system which they are trying to establish as a foundation for a long term success in Westwood. That’s the best explanation I can come up with re. Craft/Forcier situation, and frankly it’s one that makes sense to me even though I feel like pulling my hair out at times when I am watching our offense this year under Craft.

Anyway, we will end today’s roundup with this positive note re. the attendance of 80,000+ at the Rose Bowl this last weekend. CRN made sure to point out that specific data point in his comments yesterday, indicating the level of interest in a 3-5 UCLA football team despite going through a rough rebuilding season:

"I think everybody needs to realize UCLA football is going to come back. UCLA football is not going to be down forever," Neuheisel said. "We're going to come back. Eighty thousand people came to our game to see a 3-5 team play Oregon State. People want to see UCLA football do well. People are encouraged. People are rooting us on.

"That is absolute evidence this program will come back. Now, is it going to be us that gets this done?"

Neuheisel, in his first season, said he is drawing on the pride of the seniors to help begin the turnaround, which he hopes starts Saturday at winless Washington.

"It's never too late to start," he said. "We can't necessarily be sure when it will be finished, but it's never too late to start. That, I hope, everybody takes great pride in because we're all UCLA guys for life, and want desperately to start the trip back toward national prominence."

"UCLA guys for life." I like the sound of that. It gets me fired up.

The game this weekend is going to be tough against a team that will be desperate for a win. They showed signs of life against ASU this past weekend as they were up by 3 points (19-16) in third quarter before the walls caved in around them late in the game (sounds familiar). You can bet they will be fired up to close the deal this week against UCLA. Let’s hope the players and coaches chip away during practice this week. We will have more on Washington later.

GO BRUINS.

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It’s amazing how CRN’s determined outlook gives me hope that the days of mediocrity are coming to an end. I called for the playing of more youngsters yesterday, to get the experience we need for next season. However, I see now that these last games are for getting these seniors into the win column at all costs. Bruin Pride Baby!

by BruinAl on Nov 10, 2008 7:02 AM PST reply actions  

i think to a certain extent

CRN needs to stick with the seniors. A coach could lose control of the team if he “gives up on the season” like that. However, Craft isn’t in that catagory IMO. He’s a first year player and clearly not the future, so I don’t have any issue with playing the best player, be it Craft, Forcier, Rasshan, or whoever. Guys like Harwell clearly are better than those behind them and should play. But I think a guy like Lockett who has waited 3-4 years behind some big time players to get a shot needs to finish out the year unless he is clearly not as good as the guy behind him. This hasn’t happened, so i think Lockett deserves the chance to finish it out. Besides, the SS of the future is EJ Woods, who is redshirting and getting rave reviews on the scout team.

The guy we talk about a lot is Bell. I know that Nestor, you in particular have campaigned for more Coleman, and clearly he’s the more effective back at this point. Clearly, Bell is struggling and injured. But my point is this: This kid gave us everything he had for 3+ seasons. He’s battled through injuries when he was our best option (like last year) and worked his butt off to be healthy this year after his ACL tear. I think the coaches owe it to him to let him get meaningful playing time this year. It’s almost the same argument in reverse. We’re clearly not winning a Pac 10 championship this year, so let’s let the seniors go out on the field, even if they’re not performing as we expect them too. Coleman has a great future, and by all means should get carries, but I think Bell has earned the right to finish out his career as a starter as long as he can still walk. He’s given us that much over his career.

by bucknellbruin on Nov 10, 2008 7:22 AM PST reply actions  

The problem with that is

You want to show the younger players that the best get playing time. I agree that Bell still deserves time, but I think Coleman and Dean need to be phased in more.

by SuperBruinMan on Nov 11, 2008 12:05 AM PST up reply actions  

but sometimes

the best don’t play. It depends how you define “best”, but a lot of times it’s the most hard working or the guys who have earned the time that will get snaps, not just the guys who run the best. And while I agree that the players need to know they have a fair shot of getting snaps, a coach will lose a team in an instant if he “gives up on the season” like this. As soon as things go wrong; for instance, if we have a rough spot in a few years when these young guys are seniors, they’ll be wondering if their jobs are suddenly at risk and might get down on themselves or the coaching staff.
It seems as though Willingham has been doing that at UW for the last few years, and now look. The way the veterans are playing, they look like they don’t even want to play anymore. CRN won’t let that happen.

by bucknellbruin on Nov 11, 2008 4:18 AM PST up reply actions  

and just fyi

I fully agree that Coleman, and maybe Dean if the coaches deem him ready, should get carries. I’d say DC needs around 10 a game. I just think there’s no way that Bell should be entirely phased out

by bucknellbruin on Nov 11, 2008 4:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Slightly OT -- Having the Coaches' Backs

I think we are going to see the players step up a notch to cover CRN’s back in WA and Chow’s at sc.

And, that’s why I think we will win both of those games. Yes, I think we will beat sc — IF we play a full 4 quarter game at the highest level of our effort and ability.

I cannot stand the thought of CRN losing next weekend or Chow taking abuse from sc.

I’m sure the players’ want to “protect” these guys and will do so.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 10, 2008 7:27 AM PST reply actions  

Biggest Concern/Disappointment RE: Craft

is that he’s simply not progressing. His reads and footwork are not getting any better on a week-to-week basis. I would have expected at least some improvement throughout the course of the year, but that just hasn’t happened.

I understand that the OL is inexperienced, but that’s not a viable excuse for making the same bad reads and same bad throws every week. Unfortunately, like most of you, I’m not sure there’s anyone else on the team who will be able to make those reads, and it makes no sense to throw any of true freshman in to a lost season with three games to go, just hoping that they can make a difference, and burning one of their redshirts in the process.

I don’t any one of our running backs is going to be successful this year, so I can’t entirely fault the coaching staff for bringing Coleman along slowly. I mean really, what’s the difference if we rush for 70 yards instead of 45? The offense is just a bit of a slow-motion train wreck this year; something we’re going to have to live with.

by CAJason80 on Nov 10, 2008 9:24 AM PST reply actions  

One other thing to note

is our QB situation is eerily similar to LSU’s this year, and I think Miles is making a big mistake by potentially burning Jarrett Jefferson’s redshirt this weekend against Troy. There are three games left in the season. Why?

by CAJason80 on Nov 10, 2008 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Agh, meant Jordan Jefferson.

Had both Jarrett Lee and Jordan Jefferson in my head.

by CAJason80 on Nov 10, 2008 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

UCLA will be back....

but Rick needs to seriously start making up some ground on SUC in recruiting: Their scorched earth tactics (2009: Sixteen recruits, Four 5-stars, Twelve 4-stars per Rivals) are putting quite a distance between us and everyone else in the Pac 10 talent wise. This has been going on over the last several years. We’ve gotten a few nice pickups, but we’ve got a lot of ground to make up. This should be on everyone’s minds when thinking about timeframes on getting UCLA back to national prominence.

by godblesstyus95 on Nov 10, 2008 10:36 AM PST reply actions  

They're not gaining ground

These are the type of recruiting classes they’ve been having, except for last year when UCLA managed to beat them out for #1 in the conference. The key is simply beating them. If 13-9 is repeated, recruits will come.

I also like Neuheisel’s chances for any recruit once the season is over. He seems to be great at in-home pitches.

by SuperBruinMan on Nov 11, 2008 12:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Keeping faith in the coaches

I was at the OSU game, and basically from the second quarter on, the two guys behind me (at least one of whom went to UCLA in the late 90s and reminisced about the games he watched at the Rose Bowl in college) were calling for Forcier every time Craft threw an INT or incompletion.
Unfortunately, they left at the beginning of the fourth quarter, so I didn’t have the chance to throw it in their faces when Forcier’s first play in garbage time was an INT (I did like that he made the tackle, though).
I accept that Chow and Neuheisel know more about football than anyone in the stands, and definitely know more about how the team looks in practice. The fact that a bye week only “solidified” Craft’s position as the starter tells me that Craft is our best healthy QB (and that Forcier is really not understanding the offense).
If the coaches think that sitting their freshmen is the best thing for the program’s long-term health, I don’t mind seeing Dean, Knox, Woods, et al., sitting on the bench this year (hopefully redshirting).
It looks like recruiting is going better this year than in the recent past, and the Bruins are still in the hunt for a few of the top recruits. If CRN, Chow or Walker can get commits from a few more quality recruits, and build on that success with next year’s class, I can see progress. It will likely be slower than with basketball, but I can see a day, maybe two to three years from now, where UCLA football is in position for the Pac-10 title and maybe a BCS berth.
I just wish the average Joe Bruin were a little more patient and would show a little more faith. I understand, however, how hard that must be, considering the traveshamockery that was the Dorrell Error, so I’ll just stick to this small corner of the web, where the vast majority of posts and comments are articulate and intelligent.

by cupanther on Nov 11, 2008 1:04 PM PST reply actions  

Problem is,

it’s not about ‘winning now’. It’s really about getting game experience for our young guys and seeing what they’re capable of. Is Craft better than Forcier right now? Probably. But Craft’s a junior, and he hasn’t gotten any better making decisions or reads this year – at all. In fact, he’s all over the place.

I’m of the mind that we mine as well get Forcier in there, see what he can do with a full game, and make roster/personnel decisions for next year. If you want my own opinion, I don’t think either Craft or Forcier are our staring quarterback next year, but we at least mine as well get Foricer some game reps and see if he’s capable of progressing, because at this point Craft hasn’t shown a lot of progression, or – more importantly – consistency. If I had to guess, I’m pretty sure Forcier’s not going to show much, either – but hell, at this point, really, what’s the harm?

I will agree with you about kids redshirting – those kids need to stay on the bench, but Forcier’s not red-shirting, so at this point, mine as well see what he’s got.

by CAJason80 on Nov 11, 2008 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

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