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Ben Ball Roundup: Prairie View/Miami (OH) Game Notes & Recruiting Update

So the basketball season is underway. Reading Ty’s post game thoughts and the comment threads it sounds like we played a typical season opener against an out manned opponent. Per the LAT report today Bruins got it going with their defense and were helped out by contributions from DG and ML:

Defense was no problem in the first half against a smaller and outmanned Prairie View A&M team.

The Bruins came out shooting well enough and, more important, playing a familiar style of man-to-man defense, pressuring the ball, forcing missed shots.

With Collison on his way to a team-high 19 points, they opened up a lead in front of a crowd of 7,190 and Howland felt comfortable putting four of his vaunted recruiting class on the floor together.

Freshman forward Drew Gordon responded with a team-high eight rebounds. During one stretch, freshman guard Malcolm Lee scored six consecutive points.

"I just think their firepower wore us down," Prairie View Coach Byron Rimm II said, adding: "Honestly, we don't see teams this big."

But after UCLA extended its lead to 27 points midway through the second half, the Panthers crept back.

Forward Darnell Hugee got hot on his way to a game-high 22 points. At the same time, UCLA suffered from those turnovers, 24 in all.

Collison and his backup, freshman Jerime Anderson, had six each. Forward James Keefe had three.

TOs seem to be big concern coming out of yesterdays’ game. The sloppy effort in the season opener is not something to get alarmed about (it will be, if it continues deep into the pre season). In addition to the TOs, the folks at Bruin Basketball Report were not too impressed with the efforts of our upperclassmen in the front court:

UCLA was a bit sloppy, likely a symptom of early season action, committing 23 turnovers. However, they also forced 27 turnovers.

The Bruins used its size advantage to work the boards, but their low-post offensive options were still just limited to freshman J'mison Morgan.

Although Morgan was just 2 of 2 from the field, he was the only Bruin to score off the low blocks on set plays. All other inside scoring was off drives from the perimeter or rebound put backs. UCLA's inside scoring continues to be a problem and something the team will need to address quickly.

Forward James Keefe did not play a particularly strong game. Although he grabbed 6 rebounds and scored 7 points, considering he was playing against an undersized Panthers team, Keefe did not provide the team with toughness and defensive presence the Bruins need from his power forward spot.

Moreover, Alfred Aboya still resembles more of a good role player rather than a starter for a top 5 basketball program. Again, the Bruins will need to address their low post needs either through improved play by their returning players or more minutes from their blossoming low-post freshmen.

The Bruins will not have a lot of time to smooth things out in practice because they get to turn around in less than 24 hours to take on a tough Miami (OH) team, which is perfectly capable of pulling off an upset against a young team. The LAT report provides a little glimpse of the style of basketball Miami likes to play:

UCLA will face a Miami of Ohio team that likes to keep the pace slow.

That means the Bruins will have to clean up some of their sloppy play and get ready to work harder.

"They're going to be happy to play it in the 40s," UCLA Coach Ben Howland said of Miami. "We're going to need our legs because there are going to be long periods of defense."

One guy who will have to play some serious D tonight is JH, who will get to take on Red Hawk star Kenny Hayes:

[S]oon-to-be-superstar Jrue Holiday showed he was willing to wait until UCLA really needed him, scoring 11 points. But tonight he gets a chance to do something special. He'll guard Miami star Kenny Hayes, who made the winning four-point play with 1.7 seconds left in the Redhawks' 70-66 victory over Weber State in the night's first game.

"This is a really good team we're playing," Holiday said of Miami. "They beat Xavier last season and have four seniors. We should have beat this team (Prairie View) by 40 or 50 points if we played well. Tonight, we have to play well."

The note about four seniors is worry some. Over the years I have seen teams like UCLA get upset in exactly this kind of games early in the season when they are in the process of developing team chemistry with so many freshmen, against a well experienced and well drilled slow down team from a Mid Major. Gotta say, I am a little more than worried about tonight’s game and will not be stunned if there is an upset.

JH and his team-mates will have Dragovic in the lineup today, who was suspended by Howland for last night’s game. Here is Coach Howland’s explanation for suspending Dragovic for last night’s game:

"Even though I'm behind him 100 percent, and again, very confident this thing is all going to work out, it still is his responsibility to not even be in a situation where he can even be accused of anything," Howland said. "We're in a big fishbowl. When you're a UCLA basketball player, a lot of responsibility comes with that, and I don't want any of my players, or anyone, to think I take any of this lightly."

Interesting to hear Coach Howland sounding "confident" about this being "worked out." Perhaps he is aware of more facts than what has been reported in the press. I am anxious to get the final story on this.  Per Dohn’s report the city attorney's office is reviewing his case and “could decide on whether to file charges by the end of the week.” If Dragovic gets exonerated Howland's action will be more than sufficient. If he doesn't then he will need to punish him lot more severely.

Lastly, if you didn’t know our four recruits from the class of 2009 - Tyler Honeycutt, a 6-foot-8-inch, 190-pound guard/forward out of Sylmar, Calif. (Sylmar HS); Brendan Lane, a 6-foot-10-inch, 205-pound forward from Rocklin, Calif. (Rocklin HS); Reeves Nelson, a 6-foot-7-inch, 220-pound forward out of Modesto, Calif. (Modesto Christian HS) and Anthony Stover, a 6-foot-10-inch, 210-pound center from La Cañada, Calif. (Windward HS) – signed their LOI yesterday. For all the details check out the official site. Brian Dohn from the Daily News also has a nice write up on the next edition of Ben Ball warriors, with the note that Howland and his staff are not done with this year’s class yet. They might still reel in recruits like Mike Moser this Spring. So stay tuned on that front.

We will have the game thread up for tonight’s game about half an hour before tip-off.

GO BRUINS.

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I think most of the problems from last night (free throws, turnovers, not picking up the ball in transition D) will work themselves out as the season moves along and everyone gets more comfortable in their roles, I must say that I am concerned about our offense. The ratio of 3s to post ups is staggering.

JK feels more comfortable on the perimeter and although he is a good rebounder, he often is too soft going back up with the ball.

I love AA2 and am excited that he didn’t get in foul trouble last night (especially with the way the refs were calling the game), but he is not an offensive player. When he moves through his spots on offense he does have his hands up like he wants the ball, but you can tell that he is more going through the motions of what that position should be doing than posting up and demanding the ball downlow. A few times when he got the ball in the post, he immediately kicked it out and then instead of reposting, ran out to the 3 line to set a pick. I know this is partly CBH offensive scheme, but we have to have some sort of threat downlow.

DG was impressive last night on the boards and on defense. However, he has a bad habit of jumping to block a shot that he has no chance of blocking (or it would be goal tending if he did b/c he is so close to the basket) which takes him out of defensive rebounding position. But I love his aggression and think he will be a solid player this year. That said, his offense is limited to lobs and put backs which are exciting, but not what a team needs to establish a low post offense.

JMM looks to be our best (only) low post player. He was 2-2 last night and when he posts up, he is a huge target for our guards to throw it in to. The problem is that he isn’t a very good defender as his footspeed isn’t there yet so he doesn’t get that much playing time.

Take away thoughts: I don’t think we should hold our breaths expecting our starting bigs to become low post threats. I think JK could develop it, but AA2 seems to have fallen in love with the 15 footer. DG can do some damage inside, but isn’t there yet with his offensive moves. JMM needs to get quicker and improve his defense and then CBH can utilize his offensive skills. Our best option might be to post JS or JH so they can take advantage of their strength and ability to finish. But we are only 1 game into the real season and someone could totally explode tonight, so we will see how they do tonight.

Go Bruins!!!

by bruinponcho on Nov 13, 2008 8:46 AM PST reply actions  

We're going to take more 3s

I see our personnel and I just don’t see any way around it. The problem with our team as far as posting up is that it doesn’t collapse an opponent’s defense because they don’t respect our ability to score from the post. The only way we’re going to get some space for our guys is penetration until our bigs develop something resembling a back to the basket game. The good news is that we have the players with the quickness to make this system work. If our bigs can set good solid (non moving) screens, we will be able to get inside for drive-and-kick or drop off passes to the screener rolling to the basket. We have plenty of guards, and once these guys get more comfortable with the offense and with each other, knowing where their teammates are going to be spotting up and their tendencies, I think we’ll see the floor open up for everybody. The only downside I can see to this is that I believe this will take more time to gel than a traditional inside outside offensive set because everyone has to be in motion.

by Tydides on Nov 13, 2008 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

you're totally right

in re: bobo and aboya. i think by midseason bobo and drew gordon will provide more than a formidable downlow presence,and i like where keefe is at right now, he’s gonna do good things this yr

Across The Face

by rb bruin on Nov 13, 2008 10:37 AM PST reply actions  

last year we didn't play much (enough) to the low post

don’t see why we should try to do it this year when we have no (yet DG or JMM could emerge) real low post option. I don’t think we have to be a 3 point shooting / jump shooting team as a result. We have guards that can get to the hoop, drive/dish, get fouls. We should play to that strength. Keefe as one advantage over the other 3 bigs in that he can shoot from outside/ space the floor for jrue and darren and malcolm and maybe josh to get to the basket. Look how texas and memphis beat us last year – guards driving, spacing.. were really effective against us. we might be able to do that more this year especially with jrue who seems to have the ability to go inside and finish against bigger players.

lets hope for a win tonight so we can get to NYC.

GO BRUINS

by realfabfive on Nov 13, 2008 11:43 AM PST reply actions  

Agree

It took all season before our guys were really effective at getting Love the ball down low. We have the ability to wear teams out with speed this year. JK can play that tempo and open up lanes for others by shooting out to the perimeter.

Bruin-4-Life!!!

by dwdbruin on Nov 13, 2008 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Point taken

The great thing about our team is that we do have the personnel this year to be 3 heavy. DC (would love to see him shoot more), JS (didn’t shoot that well last night, but looked good in exhibition), MR, JH, and ND are all capable shooters. ML played his best game so far last night and if he continues to develop, that will just be even better. To your point about JK, CBH ran the pick and pop play that KL ran last year for him and I look forward to seeing that more. That said, the saying goes “you live by the 3, you die by the 3” which is why I hope (and am confident will) JK, JMM, and DG develop their post skills. JMM has such a wide body and is tall enough that he should be able to just catch and go up against most opponents. His problem is just conditioning and defense, which I am sure he will improve on in the coming months.

by bruinponcho on Nov 13, 2008 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Frontcourt

Under CBH’s tutaIige I am very, very confident that when this team peaks in March, one of our big guys (hopefully BoBo) will step up and dominate.

Two words: Ryan Hollins

HP
Class of 2006

by BruinBeer on Nov 13, 2008 11:53 AM PST reply actions  

For those of us without ESPNU

Where are the online video feeds?

I watched justin tv last night.

Are there others?

Thanks.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 13, 2008 3:46 PM PST reply actions  

the moderator of Justin tv

said he was streaming the ucla game tonight as well

by bucknellbruin on Nov 13, 2008 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, he will be streaming tonight's game

Not sure about any other online feeds though.

"I always wondered why somebody doesn't do something about that. Then I realized I was somebody." -Lily Tomlin

by uclaisthebest123 on Nov 13, 2008 5:48 PM PST up reply actions  

You guys watched a different game than I did, sorta

I have been to the 2 exhibition games and last nights game (about to head to tonights). I think I am seeing a team that could be really good.

Instead of looking at the negative, look at the positive. Right now the team seems to have more potential than last year’s (and I can’t believe I am saying this) because of the firepower on the outside. We struggled against the zone over and over last year because we did not have consistent shooting from the outside. As the season went on it became more and more true — I suspect partially because DC and JS tired out. Luke and Russell simply did not have an outside shot.

We have firepower from the outside AND the ability to drive the lane. I think JH is going to be an upgrade over RW by the end of the year — which is amazing given how well RW did last year. I think JK and ML represent and offensive upgrade over Luke. And if JS is healthy that is an improvement. And right now MR and ND are healthy and can add a lot of firepower to the outside.

I submit to you if we can shot from the outside, we will get our inside shots from putbacks. Of course we are taking a step back from KL at the post but it is offset by the other gains.

This team also has real depth.

And the team has been playing great defensive. DC keeps saying this is the best defensive team he has been on…maybe we should listen.

The concerns for me are:
1) Back-up point guard: JA seemed to be out of control.
2) Free throws…we are missing too many for a close game
3) Turnovers…though I attribute most of the turnovers to how fast PV was…something we took too long to adjust to.

Let’s hope I am right….

by Bruin Dad and Grad on Nov 13, 2008 5:07 PM PST reply actions  

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