Center Court: Ben Ball (Miami (OH)) Open Thread
by Nestor on Nov 13, 2008 7:30 PM PST
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Miami (Ohio) RedHawks at UCLA Bruins, Nov 13, 2008 8:00 PM PST
Our Ben Ball warriors don’t get any break after last night’s season opening blowout win.
ML, DG and MR will get back to the business of driving towards MSG tonight at Pauley:
Photo Credit: Jack Rosenfeld
Bruins take on Miami (OH) Red Hawks to in the second round of 2K Sports Classic Tournament. For a full scouting report on Miami (OH) check out the preview on Bruin Basketball Report. The winner of this game will get to play in the big show in the Big Apple next Thursday night.
The tipoff is scheduled for 8:00 pm PST. Once again it will be broadcast on ESPNU. You can track via the official site or this online channel.
As always if you are watching the game, share your instant thoughts/commentary here in our game thread.
Fire away.
GO BRUINS.
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Game will be on justin.tv/thecards
Just cross your fingers this stupid Buffalo-Akron game doesn’t cut into the start of the UCLA game…
"I always wondered why somebody doesn't do something about that. Then I realized I was somebody." -Lily Tomlin
by uclaisthebest123 on Nov 13, 2008 7:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
AA2 draws a charge
JH scores 2 at the other end
2-0 Bruins
by Telemachus on Nov 13, 2008 8:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Can we get a play by play until Justin give us our game?
In 4th overtime.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 13, 2008 8:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
JH on the bench with 2 fouls
AA2 layup
5-4 Miami
by Telemachus on Nov 13, 2008 8:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
TO by Miami
Shipp tied up, ball goes over to Miami
7-footer by Miami, up 9-4
by Telemachus on Nov 13, 2008 8:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
They ice the kicker -- give me a break
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 13, 2008 8:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
He made the FG!!
FINALLY!!!!!!!
"I always wondered why somebody doesn't do something about that. Then I realized I was somebody." -Lily Tomlin
by uclaisthebest123 on Nov 13, 2008 8:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
AA2 misses jumper
Timeout Miami, still up 9-4
by Telemachus on Nov 13, 2008 8:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Strange
They are showing this game on tape delay.
by bruin8uclap on Nov 13, 2008 8:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Help a geezer -- what does that mean?
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 13, 2008 8:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
It meant End of Message cuz I had nothing else to say :)
by bruin8uclap on Nov 13, 2008 8:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm at work
and the computers do not allow us to download any programs…including flash player.
Score updates would be amazing.
by dproduct on Nov 13, 2008 8:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Dragovic is in the game
Does anybody know if he’s been exonerated?
by Tetelestai on Nov 13, 2008 8:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
still being studied by city attorney
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 13, 2008 8:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
10-9 Bruins
DC long pass to Dragovic on the break for a layup
by Telemachus on Nov 13, 2008 8:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Nikola
looked very good on that finish.
by bruin8uclap on Nov 13, 2008 8:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Is this a new Drago we’re seeing?
by bruin8uclap on Nov 13, 2008 8:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Who's this Dragovich guy?
Haven’t seen this kind of play. I like it.
by mplsbruin on Nov 13, 2008 8:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Drago running hard got 2 lay ups
We’ve not seen freshmen?
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 13, 2008 8:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Great D they turn it over DC too much
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 13, 2008 8:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
3's
Not falling right now it looks.
They bouncing around or just poor shooting?
by dproduct on Nov 13, 2008 8:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Drago's bounced around
He also missed the rim on one
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 13, 2008 8:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Shipp stopping and popping for 2
19-14
by bruin8uclap on Nov 13, 2008 8:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Interesting
then get that Sports Almanac ready!
by bruin8uclap on Nov 13, 2008 8:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's go Keefe!!! Get your footwork down already
Bruin-4-Life!!!
by dwdbruin on Nov 13, 2008 8:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
They make a long 3 and then shipp makes a 3
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 13, 2008 8:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
that guy shot that last 3
from like 27 feet
or as physioc said from chavez ravine lol
by bucknellbruin on Nov 13, 2008 8:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Phyz
got that one from Hudler I think.
by bruin8uclap on Nov 13, 2008 8:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Notes from Pauley
1) Coach is not here
2) The upper deck of the student section is maybe 1/3 full
3) Our shoes are still a metallic royal blue, not black
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 13, 2008 8:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
SPTR
That was a steal not a foul
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 13, 2008 8:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Correct
Someone usually asks if he’s at the game or not so I threw it out there early on
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 13, 2008 8:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bruins with only 2 turnovers with under 4 left in the half
by Telemachus on Nov 13, 2008 8:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
That's great to hear
Especially after last night’s TO debacle.
"I always wondered why somebody doesn't do something about that. Then I realized I was somebody." -Lily Tomlin
by uclaisthebest123 on Nov 13, 2008 8:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Gaah
I am trying to switch between the UCLA game and my Lutheran Lancers v Mater Dei! Nice shot BTW!
by bruin8uclap on Nov 13, 2008 8:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Morgan with his 2nd foul
Miami at the line
by Telemachus on Nov 13, 2008 8:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
JS drives, is fouled
at the line for 2
Makes one of two, 29-25, 45 seconds left
timeout Miami
by Telemachus on Nov 13, 2008 8:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
We cannot continue to shoot FT's so poorly.
I really don’t get it. Such talented players and we shoot 50% from th eline. They are at 100%
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 13, 2008 8:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I agree, we absolutely
need to improve in that area. Get the early season jitters out of the way in these games and improve our consistency at the line.
by eubruin on Nov 13, 2008 8:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Miami with floater in the lane
Bruins with last shot
JS shoots with 0.9 seconds left, missed29-27 at the half
by Telemachus on Nov 13, 2008 8:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Is the best player on the court Bramos?
Guy looks pretty good. Seems we can’t guard him.
by mplsbruin on Nov 13, 2008 8:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
our offense is really bad tonight
we can’t get anything going and our bigs can’t catch the ball. I’ve seen DC feed various big guys at least 3 or 4 times only to see the ball get kicked OB
by bucknellbruin on Nov 13, 2008 8:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully,
Ben works his magic and fixes these problems for the second half.
by dproduct on Nov 13, 2008 8:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Just got back from a function.
Can someone give me a quick update on the game? Why is it so close?
by BruinFan96 on Nov 13, 2008 8:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Bad shooting
and this Bramos kid is making some really tough shots.
by bruin8uclap on Nov 13, 2008 8:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the 411.
Just saw that ridiculous 3 from Bramos.
by BruinFan96 on Nov 13, 2008 9:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We are not shooting well. Weak on 3's and FT's .
Rebounding OK.
TO’s not as bad as last night.
JMM in foul trouble.
Highlights — Drago playing well.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 13, 2008 8:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Hard to look at that #4 next to our team ...
… I mean, I like our guys – but I think there’s a lot of work to do before we hit Pac10 play. Let’s hope for a big 2nd half.
by mplsbruin on Nov 13, 2008 9:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I agree
We are too young and need some seasoning. We will be there at the end of the season.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 13, 2008 9:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Question for the group
Should Keefe be shooting 3’s, now that the line is moved back.
by BruinFan96 on Nov 13, 2008 9:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Tough shot
Bramos with yet another 3.
by bruin8uclap on Nov 13, 2008 9:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Geez, Miami answers with a three
but JS answers with another 15-footer
33-30
by Telemachus on Nov 13, 2008 9:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
OK -- so who is our D stopper?
Who is this years RW?
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 13, 2008 9:08 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
it should eventually be Lee
but he doesn’t get enough PT yet
by bucknellbruin on Nov 13, 2008 9:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And, we need some inside scoring.
No great revelation. We all know this — but it really shows.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 13, 2008 9:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Aboya needs to make those inside shots.
DC has to have confidence that when he sends the ball in we will score.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 13, 2008 9:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
we look bad
we have no offense other than DC driving and kicking. and when shots arent dropping…..
by bucknellbruin on Nov 13, 2008 9:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Announcers said Bramos wouldn't get 12 in the second half...
… well, he may get 20! We can’t guard him, and we have no defensive presence down low. Too bad we didn’t redshirt Lorenzo!!!
by mplsbruin on Nov 13, 2008 9:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
They are shooting over 50% from both field and 3's
Our D has to kick in
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 13, 2008 9:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Josh Shipp
tough shot from the baseline.
by bruin8uclap on Nov 13, 2008 9:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Js makes a very difficult shot
we are not getting easy or inside shots
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 13, 2008 9:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Seniors
making the shots we need as of now.
by bruin8uclap on Nov 13, 2008 9:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
You guys need to tighten up the center
maybe go for a little zone?
by james_WSU on Nov 13, 2008 9:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Zone? We don't do zone.
We need to play Ben Ball D — and we aren’t.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 13, 2008 9:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Did they rule intentional?
I couldn’t tell
by SuperBruinMan on Nov 13, 2008 9:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Its a proven scientfic fact
you look like a better defender that way.
by bruin8uclap on Nov 13, 2008 9:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
James should use that pump fake more often.
That was pretty effective, and at least it’ll keep him from hurrying too much.
BTW, this so far has not been a strong outing for him. He really was beaten badly on that last lay-up.
by mplsbruin on Nov 13, 2008 9:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
we're getting burned on curls to the bucket
that has to stop
by bucknellbruin on Nov 13, 2008 9:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Right
We’ve always had trouble with that for some reason (see W Virginia, Michigan).
by bruin8uclap on Nov 13, 2008 9:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
JK not looking all that good
JMM 3 fouls and on the bench
Kids not playing much
JH having D problems.
We are a team in need of seasoning. We will be there, later.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 13, 2008 9:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'm VERY disappointed
that we’re not mixing up the D.
You gotta go ZONE sometimes
You gotta pick them up in a full court press sometimes
You gotta throw the opponents off and use our superior athleticism.
POOR coaching game. VERY poor.
by BruinAlum on Nov 13, 2008 9:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
No
Howland doesn’t do zone. We have very young players.
by bruin8uclap on Nov 13, 2008 9:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
no zone. good offensive teams destroy zones. plus miami can SHOOT
by bucknellbruin on Nov 13, 2008 9:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He is building their D capabilities past this game
Unlike football, not every game really matters
by UCLAwyerr on Nov 13, 2008 9:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
MASTER Coaches... of which Howland is...
do WHATEVER it takes.
by BruinAlum on Nov 13, 2008 9:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
ROLL!!!!
3 THREES!!! WOW!!
"I always wondered why somebody doesn't do something about that. Then I realized I was somebody." -Lily Tomlin
by uclaisthebest123 on Nov 13, 2008 9:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Our guys are not just young
They also need the weight room.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 13, 2008 9:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
look... 3 final fours gives Howland plenty of GRACE.
I’m just sayin, I don’t like small schools even THINKING they can run with us.
by BruinAlum on Nov 13, 2008 9:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Anyone buy season tickets? At $1200 for a pair.... geesh
I’m going to have to wait until next season
by UCLAwyerr on Nov 13, 2008 9:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I wanna PRACTICE with a cushion.
No last second shot heroics.
by BruinAlum on Nov 13, 2008 9:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
We win with D and our D isn't stopping them
They are shooting 56% from the field and 3’s.
Our young guys will be there at the end of the year.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 13, 2008 9:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Interesting lineup
Collison
Lee
Roll
Dragovic
Aboya
by SuperBruinMan on Nov 13, 2008 9:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Lee shoulda put that back IN THE AIR.
do not come back down to the floor when you’re by yourself. THAT’s coaching.
by BruinAlum on Nov 13, 2008 9:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Gee
I guess you have your proof right there then.
by bruin8uclap on Nov 13, 2008 9:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
FT's -- so important They make theirs
keep8ing them in the game
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 13, 2008 9:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
We should keep in
mind that we typically wear the other team down. I think an analysis of the last 8 min’s of each game would be nice. I have a feeling we outscore our opponents by quite a large margin…
by eubruin on Nov 13, 2008 9:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
that call was a joke
LEe played perfect D and Bramos got bailed out
by bucknellbruin on Nov 13, 2008 9:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
DC is playing amazing tonight
good thing too lol
by bucknellbruin on Nov 13, 2008 9:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
PS: Aaron Afflalo is playing great tonight for Detroit. He hit a 3, and then just made a great “and one” layup. He is really playing well.
by muircoach on Nov 13, 2008 9:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Amen --
In this game and all season.
We are playing a one on one game with DC eating them up
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 13, 2008 9:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
can someone get me
an internet feed link?
GO BRUINS!!!
by nselbe7 on Nov 13, 2008 9:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
149 - 2 did u hear that Pauley Record?
I don’t like that we don’t even TRY to have that kind of home domination.
Again, just my own rusing. I find that the younger generation is simply
pleased with WINS. I’m way more into HOME DOMINATION. Make the country DREAD comming to PAULEY.
by BruinAlum on Nov 13, 2008 9:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
They are 5 points ahead of us on FT's
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 13, 2008 9:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
SOrry
That actually makes me feel better.
by bruin8uclap on Nov 13, 2008 9:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I am getting nervous
The longer they hang around, the more confident they will get.
by BruinFan96 on Nov 13, 2008 9:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
We got to keep up the hard D on Bramos ... he's actually almost
looking human now!
Guy is a stud.
by mplsbruin on Nov 13, 2008 9:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Full Court press. half court press. double team up top. FORCE turnovers.
Nun of that tonite. Pathetic. That’s not PAULEY domination.
by BruinAlum on Nov 13, 2008 9:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
We lost 4 great players last year
Not only are we young, we are asking people to step in who have never played much before.
Roll coming from injuries.
We are just fine, for this time of the year.
They start 4 seniors.
This is the beginning of the path not the end.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 13, 2008 9:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
JK's first good play of the game
could not have come at a better tme
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 13, 2008 9:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Keefe!!! Steps up big time.
We were lucky cause Darren had nothing in the lane.
by mplsbruin on Nov 13, 2008 9:45 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Our offense is starting to concern me ...
… not much movement, not much passing. It’s mainly Darren and Josh dribbling around looking for an opening to take it to the hoop. We’ve been bailed by some amazing shots.
by mplsbruin on Nov 13, 2008 9:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Okay
just saw that drive by Hayes on the replay. I think someone needs to tell Aboya its okay to start being a little bit aggressive. Maybe even foul someone.
by bruin8uclap on Nov 13, 2008 9:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking the same thing
He’s trying so hard to avoid fouls he’s letting things get past him
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 13, 2008 9:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ben is HUMAN. Maybe he's got to adjust his game to the ATHLETES we have.
Ben doesn’t recruit no-names anymore. We got Stallions, not mules.
We need STALLION play on defense.
by BruinAlum on Nov 13, 2008 9:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Freshmen in their second game
patience
by SuperBruinMan on Nov 13, 2008 9:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Freshmen and people who've not played much before
Chill out.
These games are learning experiences. Nice to win them. But I’d rather see the kids get time, now.
As I keep telling you. They have 4 seniors
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 13, 2008 9:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We did not get to 3 straight 4's because we got the "calls"
perpetuating folk lore.
Terrible announcer
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 13, 2008 9:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
i think he meant we get calls b/c we got 3 FFs
not the other way around.
by UCLAwyerr on Nov 13, 2008 9:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
SPTR
They did not get that one right.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 13, 2008 9:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
commentator
This commentator is so obviously biased.
by bruinirish on Nov 13, 2008 9:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Miami thinks they can WIN.
u guys and gals aren’t irrated at that? i am.
by BruinAlum on Nov 13, 2008 9:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
But who's to blame?
Angry at what?
by SuperBruinMan on Nov 13, 2008 9:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Howland is not on HIS game.
HOWLAND is in charge of mindset, intensity, play calling.
by BruinAlum on Nov 13, 2008 9:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you know anything about this team?
Experience level?
Do you know how much Roll, Drago, and Keefe played last year.
Please, stop your whining. It’s unbecoming.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 13, 2008 9:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
all those dudes were AWESOME high school players.
they’re all very, very talented. Way more talented than the Miami crew.
by BruinAlum on Nov 13, 2008 9:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Way less experienced too
Howland has only been coaching them for a few weeks
by SuperBruinMan on Nov 13, 2008 9:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Experience matters.
Size matters. Our young guys need to hit the weight room.
I’m done responding to you.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 13, 2008 9:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
DC
the senior makes them both for 62-59 UCLA.
by bruin8uclap on Nov 13, 2008 9:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
weird switch put James on Hayes !!!
I think James’ length really hurt Hayes shot.
by mplsbruin on Nov 13, 2008 10:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
A win is a win
Hopefully they learn from this.
by SuperBruinMan on Nov 13, 2008 10:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Agree!
Young guys understand they have to play D, now they just have to get used to doing it.
No inside game at all. We need to fix that.
Good game from Drago and Roll.
Stuff to build on.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Nov 13, 2008 10:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Win is a win. There will ALWAYS be bumps in the road and it WAS a good learning experience.
by bruin8uclap on Nov 13, 2008 10:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's only November. We got work to do. GLAD we got the win.
Go Bruins! Outtie.
by BruinAlum on Nov 13, 2008 10:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
You guys should turn the Pistons game. AA is doing great
by muircoach on Nov 13, 2008 10:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I am watching O Lu play Mater Dei
also a great game!
by bruin8uclap on Nov 13, 2008 10:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I just wanted a win...
…but looking at the stats, the inside game has me nervous. I couldn’t watch unfortunately but does anyone have any additional insight to assure me that we’re going to eventually be ok inside? I have the utmost faith in Howland so I’m sure we’ll be ok, but can Keefe,Aboya,Morgan,Gordon do what they need to do to get this team far in the tournament? I’ll hold my judgement until the season progresses and I get to actually watch them play. I can’t wait.
by zinlinez on Nov 13, 2008 10:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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