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Growing Pains: Miami (OH) Postgame Thread

Full disclosure: I did not get to watch this game, but I tried to follow along as best I could. While this means that I'm not qualified to offer up any sort of analysis, I think a game like this only underscores the growing pains that I mentioned yesterday and what N sort of talked about this morning. I also see in hindsight why N had us all on upset alert with their all upperclassmen starting lineup.

The bottom line is that the Bruins hang on to beat Miami 64-59 (Box Score) behind 16 points from DC. I noticed that Shipp went 1-5 from 3 after going something like 1-6 yesterday. Just something to keep an eye on.

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From the box score it seems that our freshmen were looking to our seniors to take the lead. I have to admit I was tempted to push the panic buttons with this game still in the balance, but I'm reminded that one of the best parts about the 2006 season (the closest of Ben Howland's teams to this one that I can remember in terms of experience) is the way the young players grew up in front of our eyes. Now is not the time to lose faith in the young guns, not if we want to do anything significant this season.

Since I didn't get to watch the game, I'd really like to hear others' impressions of it.

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Hard to imagine I’d be this concerned about a game this early in the season. Collison once again put this team on his back and willed them to a win. I agree that this will be a learning experience for the freshmen. Tough games like this will harden them for the Pac 10 and tournament. Its crucial to learn how to pull out these close ones that go down to the wire. The freshmen had flashes, but for the most part it was the upperclassmen that got it done tonight. I think that will be the theme for awhile.

by Give me a B... on Nov 13, 2008 10:53 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

My impressions...

We were a bit fortunate to win tonight. Some favorable calls. Some amazing bail-out shots by Josh and 1 key 3 by James.
This was not a really good game by Jrue. Fouls took him out early. Came back in and he was ok, though he made a few poor passes.
Actually, imho we were better with Roll in the game. Mike was very active playing D with his feet. He was also hitting his 3’s. Steadying influence.
Darren was amazing. I think he got into Haye’s head by making an easy block of a pull up J in the lane early in the game – then he just harrassed the guy throughout.
For the second game in a row, the best talent out there was not a Bruin. This guy Bramos was killing us all night until he tired a bit by the end of the game. Kind of an uncomfortable trend when we don’t have the best guy out there against Prairire View (Hugee) and Miami (Bramos).
Northeastern gave Mich a fight before going down by about 15. I think we can take Michigan with some better play from guys like Jrue and James. Then … next up …

by mplsbruin on Nov 13, 2008 10:57 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Weird game

Just got home from Pauley and boy am I exhausted. Everything just felt really out of whack tonight. I don’t know if it was playing on back to back nights or just early season kinks, but nothing seemed to be working right. Our defense was giving up open layups, the timeouts seemed incredibly long (3 Dance Team routines in one timeout, I’m not complaining, but just made there not be much flow to the game), and even the Yell Crew seemed to be off on cheers.

The biggest problem with CBH’s teams is that when we don’t get turnovers we struggle. I don’t know what the numbers were, but I recall in the games we lost last year that we didn’t force many turnovers in them. This keeps us from getting easy baskets and makes us have to do everything in the half court. I credit Miami for taking good care of the ball and not being intimidated by the bright lights at Pauley.

I think the turning point in the game was about half way through the first half when we had I think a 6 point lead or so and momentum and JA came from DC. We had a couple of bad possessions in a row and instead of pulling away from Miami, we allowed them to stay in it and gave them confidence. Obviously DC cant play the whole game, but we will need better game management from JA in the future which I am sure he will develop as the year goes on.

I still think we take way too many 3s. 27% is not a good percentage for a team that is going to be dependent on it. I know ND and JS are shooters, but they have to learn when it is not going from outside. Thankfully, JS realized this and had some nice mid-range jumpers. DC did a great job today taking it to the basket and I hope that our bigs will do a better job of offensive rebounding his misses when their defender leaves them to try and block DC’s shots.

The referring was terrible. That is never an excuse for how we played, but the refs tonight were terribly inconsistent and really never allowed the game to develop any flow to it.

Lastly, it is really sad that we have the 4th ranked team in the nation and a team trying to make it to the Final 4 for its fourth straight year, and there is still about 1/3 of Pauley with empty seats. I guess I am kinda calling out people with season tickets to either use them or sell them or give them to someone who will actually so up and cheer on our Bruins.

Seems a little earlier to be saying this, but “Survive and Advance.”

Go Bruins!

by bruinponcho on Nov 13, 2008 10:58 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The reffing...

was the shoddiest piece of work I have ever witnessed at a basketball game. Even so, our defense looked pretty solid along the perimeter but was weak on the interior for the most part. Our offense is virtually non-existent in the interior as well. We really didn’t have any put-backs or layups at all. I know some people are ok with that and think that we can do it all from the arc, but we can’t. We have to develop this interior game in order to go further than we have. No great team can be a one-trick offensive pony. That said, I think we CAN do it, it just needs to be a focus for our big guys.

On an atmospheric note: Towards the end when everyone in Pauley was about to have a heart attack, the Den got everyone in the pavilion to stand up and cheer. It was really powerful. Our Den, however, needs to be more active throughout the game. Our cheers die after 15 seconds and Mike Roll even had to start motioning for us to make some noise. Only then did we really get into the game. That said… GO BRUINS… let’s show ‘em what we’re made of in NY.

by legallybruinette on Nov 13, 2008 11:00 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Regarding the low post play

I thought we had a decent number of layups that we just missed and offensive rebounds that we would get and then lose the ball out of bounds or something like that. I also noticed at one point where I think Ship had the ball up top and Gordon was posting up down low and called for the ball pretty adamantly. Then Dragovic came over and looked down low when Gordon re-posted and he still didn’t get the ball and he seemed pretty upset afterwards. So it’s not like the possibility isn’t there it’s just that no one has faith in them right now. I also think Keefe could do okay if he got some looks and faced up to the basket if he were to actually have some confidence in his own game (look at the three he made, he didn’t even think about it, just reacted and it was a good shot) but unfortunately he doesn’t so nothing will probably come from there.

by turs12 on Nov 14, 2008 12:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Free Throws saved us

After struggling from the line in the early season, FT’s ironically saved the day for us. Hitting 6 clutch FT’s down the stretch, including 2 huge FT’s by Aboya shooting the one and one, sealed the win. I thought Miami-OH did a bonehead move by taking the three down the stretch when they could have gone for the easy layup down with UCLA clearly being told not to foul, and then trying to send us back to the line where we’ve struggled. Instead, they clanged the 3 attempt with 6 seconds left and that sealed the game.

by CPOBruin on Nov 13, 2008 11:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Jrue and the Interior Game

I just got back from the game and had these thoughts:

First, it is quite clear our interior game needs a ton of work. They were slow to react to passes made in, and there wasn’t a whole lot of post action at all. Most of the time, it felt like they were struggling to get position. If we aren’t going to get a whole lot of offense from them, we will need to have them play hard defense and get some boards.

Next, I feel like Jrue was actually too unselfish. A lot of the turnovers made were him attempting to pass the ball and make plays for people. That’s fine and dandy, but he’s probably our most athletic player and has a plethora of offensive skills. I’d like to see him get to the basket more often, and perhaps have more of the offense run through him.

It was great to see Collison pumped up during the game and give leadership to the team, which we will need. Shipp was solid too, sans the 3 Point woes. Roll was damn good, and Dragovic has really improved his defense.

Miami (OH) was a good test though – zone defense and a slow down tempo. We certainly needed this test, and against Michigan we will see Beilin’s zone schemes which will be rough, but we need that test. I would, however, like to see more offensive schemes to use our guards to their potential, since it is clear we will have a guard-oriented game this eyar.

Also, just to remember that year we made it to the champsionship game: we had major woes during the first half of the season with the post play, while Afflalo and Farmar held down the guard positions. We also had some stellar freshmen players that year and made it to the final game.

by blinkshot on Nov 13, 2008 11:47 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

after I thought about it for a little

we played a back to back, something which doesn’t happen at the college level. We have a lot of new players (the freshman) players coming back from injury (roll) and players seeing more playing time than they might be used to previously (Roll and Keefe). And lets not scoff at our opponent tonight, if im not mistaken they were in the tourny last yr and won their conference as well. So its not as if we were playing some no name team, they were a decent mid major, and a good indication of games to come.

Though Collison statistically had a good game, there were a few times where he got slightly careless with the ball and there were quite a few times he had to gather his dribble after having it poked out.

The crowd itself i think was a little flat as well. Not to say our team’s play is dictated by the crowd but it has to help with an energized Pauley.

by uclabruin34 on Nov 14, 2008 12:35 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Michigan

We’d better get really good at guarding that UCLA cut, cuz Michigan will utilize that about 2 dozen times a game. At UCLA, Howland is 1-2 against John Beilein coached teams (please someone tell me if I’m wrong on that), with the only victory coming against a team in its first year with a new coach and earlier in the season. I have a feeling come next Thursday we are in for another battle. I wouldn’t even be surprised if we lost.
It’ll be interesting to see who gets matched up against Manny Harris, a 6’5 guard who scored 26 points in Michigan’s last game. Of course, position labels have little meaning in Beilein’s weird offensive scheme.

by bruin8uclap on Nov 14, 2008 5:06 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

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