Center Court: Ben Ball (Michigan) Second Half Thread
Ben Ball warriors need a boost:
Photo Credit: AP Photo/Frank Franklin II (via ESPN)
We are down by 2 pts early in the second. Let's hope JS and rest of the guys can settle down and get it together in the second half.
GO BRUINS.
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Good Move Nestor -- could be the key to the game
New MOJO!!!
Go Bruins
sjh
by Class of 66 on
Nov 20, 2008 7:56 PM PST
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was darren bailed on that pass?
didn’t look catchable, but we got the foul
by mplsbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 7:56 PM PST
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darren doesn't seem to see the pass to keefe on the wing...
James hit his first 3. He should have some confidence.
by mplsbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 7:57 PM PST
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I see the yellow/gold warmups
and I long for the yellow puffy jackets from ’95.
by ryebreadraz on
Nov 20, 2008 7:57 PM PST
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ND got off to a good start
and then went back to old habits.
by Nestor on
Nov 20, 2008 7:58 PM PST
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there's good D!
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
by gbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:00 PM PST
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AA2 with the charge!
Does anyone take it better?
by ryebreadraz on
Nov 20, 2008 8:00 PM PST
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FT shooting is going to be our downfall this year
If we don’t step it up
by ryebreadraz on
Nov 20, 2008 8:02 PM PST
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BH doing the right thing -- playing the freshmen early in the year
We might be better with the more experienced line up, but we need them to get this playing time.
sjh
by Class of 66 on
Nov 20, 2008 8:05 PM PST
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Freshmen need to play
More than we need this game.
by Tydides on
Nov 20, 2008 8:06 PM PST
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Still in this
even with wolves run and our bad FTs
by brewinz on
Nov 20, 2008 8:05 PM PST
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upperclassmen aren't shining tonight either
Roll bricks 2 fts?
Has Josh even scored yet?
Darren very tentative.
by mplsbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:05 PM PST
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DC
needs to be WAY more aggressive. He makes something happen every time he penetrates.
by bucknellbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:07 PM PST
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sad thing is I don't think Michigan is that good. Am I missing something?
by mplsbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:06 PM PST
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Yes you are missing a lot
Michigan is a solid team coached by a solid coach.
by Nestor on
Nov 20, 2008 8:07 PM PST
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yeah, they are "solid", but I'm still not convinced. do you think they win the big-10?
by mplsbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:09 PM PST
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Don't think they will
but they are as solid as Howland’s second year team was. It’s silly for you to dismiss these guys as not a good team.
by Nestor on
Nov 20, 2008 8:10 PM PST
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If it weren't for JH this game might have gotten ugly
"I always wondered why somebody doesn't do something about that. Then I realized I was somebody." -Lily Tomlin
by uclaisthebest123 on
Nov 20, 2008 8:06 PM PST
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we can't hit anything
DC blowing a layup? when does that ever happen. He’s one of the best finishers in the country
by bucknellbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:08 PM PST
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We need inside scoring this year
when we get the ball in, we miss shots we have to make
sjh
by Class of 66 on
Nov 20, 2008 8:09 PM PST
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Is that morgan in taking the charge?
sjh
by Class of 66 on
Nov 20, 2008 8:10 PM PST
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good ball movement
led to that one
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
by gbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:11 PM PST
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this happened last year
i know it was a veteran team, but we took until the last 6-7 minutes to figure out the 1-3-1. Remember we were down 10 late and ended up winning by quite a bit.
by bucknellbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:11 PM PST
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Wow stripes
Pac 10 refs in the building?
by ryebreadraz on
Nov 20, 2008 8:12 PM PST
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horrible call
that’s a no call at worst. wtf?
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
by gbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:12 PM PST
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what IS this?
are we allowed to TOUCH them?
by bucknellbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:12 PM PST
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Not balanced offensively
and as a result nobody is back
by ryebreadraz on
Nov 20, 2008 8:13 PM PST
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this is strange
you attack a 1-3-1 from the corners to the middle. Swing to the corners then before the trap comes hit a flasher on the elbow. Yet we haven’t done that at all.
by bucknellbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:14 PM PST
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Stop blowing lavin you douche bag
sjh
by Class of 66 on
Nov 20, 2008 8:14 PM PST
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Offense looks confused
like they aren’t sure where to attack
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
by gbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:14 PM PST
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you're right
but he’s seen this D before, and all this game, so why the confusion?
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
by gbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:16 PM PST
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This game is too tight, too late
I’m off to nervously walk around the room
by ryebreadraz on
Nov 20, 2008 8:14 PM PST
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DC Knocks Down 2
At least we have one player to rely on for FT shooting.
"I always wondered why somebody doesn't do something about that. Then I realized I was somebody." -Lily Tomlin
by uclaisthebest123 on
Nov 20, 2008 8:15 PM PST
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aboya again!
hes a monster with the charges!
by bucknellbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:15 PM PST
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Don't you see how it works?
You cannot touch Michigan. Not on O. Not on D. Automatic Foul.
by Tydides on
Nov 20, 2008 8:17 PM PST
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WHAT THE HELL
how is that on Shipp??!?!!?!? he was pushing him back 35 feet from the basket…that’s a foul on UM you morons
by bucknellbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:16 PM PST
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Man ...
Collison and Shipp…are looking like underclassmen out there tonight.
by Nestor on
Nov 20, 2008 8:16 PM PST
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take shipp out. he can't make the ez pass to dc, then elbows the defender
man, the guy is bringing zero to this game
by mplsbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:17 PM PST
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the guy was breathing down his neck 35 feet from the hoop
that was a foul on UM. What’s shipp supposed to do?
by bucknellbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:17 PM PST
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josh's foul would never have happened if he made the open pass to darren for a 3
by mplsbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:18 PM PST
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Pac-10 update
UW having a tough time with Florida Intl; trailing 25-26 at halftime
Cal leads Texas-Pan American at the half, 39-25
by bruinhoo on
Nov 20, 2008 8:18 PM PST
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We need our seniors to step up
Josh Shipp does not have the poise and leadership skills that AA had. I know DC will step it up.
by UCLA Championships Made Here on
Nov 20, 2008 8:18 PM PST
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Josh
holds on to the ball too long
by UCLA Championships Made Here on
Nov 20, 2008 8:19 PM PST
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Dickie V
is telling it right.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
by gbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:20 PM PST
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lol
ESPN announcers are now openly rooting against us.
by Nestor on
Nov 20, 2008 8:20 PM PST
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i dunno
DV loves DC and JH. LOVES them lol
by bucknellbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:21 PM PST
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I finally agree with something douche bag says
for right now, we are overrated
sjh
by Class of 66 on
Nov 20, 2008 8:20 PM PST
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Dicky V is a dick.
He says UCLA’s overrated because of our reputation yet he pimps Duke as if they were the second coming.
by Space_Monkey on
Nov 20, 2008 8:20 PM PST
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both charges
were questionable. At least they evened out
by bucknellbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:22 PM PST
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Aboya
That’s the third charge taken I think
by Tydides on
Nov 20, 2008 8:22 PM PST
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AA!!
Is a wall!!
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
by gbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:22 PM PST
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Hey hey
We’re getting some calls now.
by bruin8uclap on
Nov 20, 2008 8:23 PM PST
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Seize this
Take control now.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
by gbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:23 PM PST
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Stop with the Duke references! This time it's Shane Battier.
by Space_Monkey on
Nov 20, 2008 8:24 PM PST
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I sense a drinking game...
Nah. Never mind. None of us would survive.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
by gbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:25 PM PST
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Missed the first
"I always wondered why somebody doesn't do something about that. Then I realized I was somebody." -Lily Tomlin
by uclaisthebest123 on
Nov 20, 2008 8:25 PM PST
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Aboya is finishing
Where is Bobo by the way?
by Joe Bruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:25 PM PST
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Aboya
this should be interesting at the line.
by bruin8uclap on
Nov 20, 2008 8:25 PM PST
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he's sort of floating in and out
he’s made some really nice plays, but then he does crap like that twice as often…weird…
by bucknellbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:29 PM PST
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Just to put it all into perspective
we were all kind of expecting this were we not?
by bruin8uclap on
Nov 20, 2008 8:28 PM PST
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Not just DC
I remember Jordan and Aron having problems with it as well. We just don’t match up well against that scheme.
by bruin8uclap on
Nov 20, 2008 8:31 PM PST
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I was sort of expecting the opposite
Seniors stepping up and freshmen struggling
by Tydides on
Nov 20, 2008 8:29 PM PST
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My mind says yes
But my gut is still killing me now
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
by gbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:29 PM PST
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Just looked at it a few times
UCLA never had it, the shot clock should have expired, and did.
"I always wondered why somebody doesn't do something about that. Then I realized I was somebody." -Lily Tomlin
by uclaisthebest123 on
Nov 20, 2008 8:31 PM PST
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I have to say
Michigan looks like they want this game lot more.
None of our key seniors – DC or JS – are showing that warrior mentality we got accustomed to with AA and RW.
by Nestor on
Nov 20, 2008 8:31 PM PST
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think of jordan farmar
did he ever allow himself to be taken out of a game mentally the way that has happened several time to darren, last year and this game… Farmar was a rare one.
by mplsbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:33 PM PST
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It's all mental
The seniors remember the trouble that they’ve had before. It’s like reliving a nightmare. The freshman have clear memories and no fear.
by BruinFan96 on
Nov 20, 2008 8:33 PM PST
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that possession might go back to Mich...
disappointed that darren let that ball get ripped out of his hands.
he’s really in major funk; should have nailed that key 3; and he’s passed on somany
by mplsbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:32 PM PST
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we've had these kinds of games last year
We’ll close it out
by drebruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:32 PM PST
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FT's should I keep my eyes open or not?
sjh
by Class of 66 on
Nov 20, 2008 8:34 PM PST
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Shipp got bailed out there
Bad ball movement … neither DC nor JS is taking charge.
by Nestor on
Nov 20, 2008 8:35 PM PST
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Good hustle by Josh
Didn’t look like a foul though. He had the layup easy
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
by gbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:35 PM PST
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1 for 2 for Shipp...
No one can make any of these
by Tydides on
Nov 20, 2008 8:35 PM PST
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Certainly Shipp and Collison
Not Aboya.
by Raisin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:37 PM PST
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I can't swear
My 6 year old is sitting next to me.
But I’m thinking it.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
by gbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:37 PM PST
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It's over guys. This is officially a development season...
… it’s all going to depend on how much guys improve this year.
I see a lot of potential for Holiday, even Keefe. But we’ve got some issues that I don’t think will resolve.
by mplsbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:37 PM PST
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Way to give up after 3 games
You’re a trooper
by Tydides on
Nov 20, 2008 8:38 PM PST
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Its not even
over yet. Besides, we ALWAYS have trouble with 1-3-1, particularly Beilien’s.
by bruin8uclap on
Nov 20, 2008 8:39 PM PST
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What can't we resolve?
(not angry, just asking)
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
by gbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:38 PM PST
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I'm NOT giving up. Just setting my own expectations.
And I expect that we will develop as the season goes on. We’re not really top 10 at this time of the season. Ben will work on the freshmen and Holiday will start to take a greater role.
by mplsbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:42 PM PST
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Tyus, Tyus...
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
by gbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:40 PM PST
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wait a sec
i missed it…how’d we get the ball back still down 4?
by bucknellbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:40 PM PST
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Um
I’m going to have to see that in replay. Because that looked like a FOUL
by Tydides on
Nov 20, 2008 8:42 PM PST
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No foul? I want to see that again.
sjh
by Class of 66 on
Nov 20, 2008 8:42 PM PST
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Way to miss
that one zebras. Now your failure is complete. Good job.
by bruin8uclap on
Nov 20, 2008 8:43 PM PST
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Are these SPTR?
Given how they called the rest of the game, I think there’s a good chance they were.
by Tydides on
Nov 20, 2008 8:45 PM PST
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Wow
All body on that block.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
by gbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:43 PM PST
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We don't deserve the call
Was there contact? Probably, but Michigan deserved the game more than we did. They played tougher and wanted it more. Hopefully we learn from this.
by ryebreadraz on
Nov 20, 2008 8:43 PM PST
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He knew they didn't deserve to win
But man, makes you wonder how a ball can go off course when the defender doesn’t touch it. Makes you think a little.
by Tydides on
Nov 20, 2008 8:45 PM PST
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Well whatever
Use it guys. Anger can be a powerful motivator
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Nov 20, 2008 8:43 PM PST
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Two classy teams and classy coaches tonight
by Joe Bruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:44 PM PST
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Can't say I'm really
all that surprised, but I am still MAD AS HELL!!!
by bruin8uclap on
Nov 20, 2008 8:45 PM PST
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wow
i dont know what words to use but that was a piss poor game
no offense from anyone except a couple players, no one penetrating
i dont know if its our offensive scheme but you CANNOT pass it east-west all game
that was bad
by blinkshot on
Nov 20, 2008 8:45 PM PST
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Offense
I still get the sense that our guards don’t have confidence in what happens when they get it inside. So, they feel their only option is perimeter scoring. It is kind of like football and having a passing game but no running game, so the defense can focus on your strength and ignore your weakness.
by Joe Bruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:47 PM PST
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not sure guys
that looked pretty clean
i don’t think that deserved a call
besides we didn’t deserve this game. Michigan did
by bucknellbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:45 PM PST
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2 part response...
part 1 – disagree
part 2 – agree
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
by gbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:46 PM PST
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Pretty clean
Except for the elbow…and the defender not touching the ball.
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Nov 20, 2008 8:46 PM PST
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'clean' and deserved, two different things
contact looked like a clear foul, but the way that DC and the Bruins played tonight, the call was not really deserved.
by bruinhoo on
Nov 20, 2008 8:47 PM PST
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well i guess we disagree
cuz i thought he got ball
by bucknellbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:48 PM PST
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Well he didn't
The magic of television.
by Tydides on
Nov 20, 2008 8:48 PM PST
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to be fair, should not have come to that (non)call
Had we played well, the game would not have come to a final shot.
by bruinhoo on
Nov 20, 2008 8:45 PM PST
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Yup
When you get to the point where a call at the end decides a game then you didn’t play well enough in the first 39 minutes.
by ryebreadraz on
Nov 20, 2008 8:47 PM PST
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the game
should not have come to that call
we had no offense besides passing it left and right
defense did NOT lose this game – our piss poor offense did
by blinkshot on
Nov 20, 2008 8:47 PM PST
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even the veterans on this team
are playing like freshmen so far this year. collison is frustrating me this year. we are missing easy layups. akfjlaif salf sd
this team has a lot of growing up to do. a LOT.
slow down, look up
by Point Guard 08 on
Nov 20, 2008 8:47 PM PST
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Besides
End of the game – refs put the whistle away. A&M, Stanford…
We shouldn’t have put ourselves in that position.
greg in denver - UCLA guy for life
by gbruin on
Nov 20, 2008 8:48 PM PST
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PAC 10 woes
It looks like most of the top tier PAC-10 teams are going through some growing pains. My hope is that we peak in Feb., March, and April.
by UCLA Championships Made Here on
Nov 20, 2008 8:48 PM PST
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we had our share
of calls last year, so lets not talk about the refs
let’s talk about the fact that we were WAITING 30 seconds to play when we should try and run and gun against a 1-3-1 znoe to BREAK it down
how predictable was this? beilein owns howland for a reason
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Nov 20, 2008 8:49 PM PST
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