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Let me make something clear right off the bat re. this place for those want to do drive by trolling after tough losses (in either hoops or football).

BN is not talk radio.

BN is not a message board.

This is not a place where you get to just pop in after a Bruin loss and get your frustrations out of your system. If you are going to take knee-jerk, drive by shots against our coaches or our players, showing up randomly in a community you don’t normally participate in, then we suggest you pick up the phone or call in those dumbed down talk radio shows or find a message board that works for you. We don’t care  if that impacts our site traffic

We are not going to let BN turn into a place where you can come by and confirm Steve Lavin and rest of traditional media blowhard’s talking points about “spoiled and unreasonable” UCLA basketball fans. Moving on to last night’s game. 

Last night’s loss against a very well coached Michigan team is not a surprise. Those of us who follow our program on a day to day basis here on BN, knew the kind of challenge our guys were going to face against Beilein squad. I think Jaffa’s data points in the comment threads provided some key information putting this in perspective by going over Beiein/Howland matchup dating back to their Big East days:

Howland at Pitt, Beilein at West Virginia: 2-0 Howland (82-46 at Pitt and 80-61 at WVU). They were only at these places at the same time for one season (2002-2003) – Howland’s last at Pitt, with a top 10 team, and Beilein’s first at WVU. Not surprising he was able to get both wins, and both blowouts at that.

Howland at UCLA, Beilein at West Virginia: 2-0 Beilein (60-56 at Pauley in ‘05-’06 and 70-65 at WVU in ‘06-’07). The first featured a still-young UCLA, against an experienced WVU in Beilein’s 4th season. In the second we missed Collison as Westbrook struggled in his first start (4 pts on 1-11, 4 assts, 3 TO in 32 mins), in Beilein’s 5th year at WVU.

Howland at UCLA, Beilein at Michigan: 1-1 (69-54 UCLA at Mich, and this game). Last year’s game was our 12th of the season and Beilein’s 12th at Michigan. Tonight’s game was the third in their career for much of our team, playing for the first time against a very uncommon attack.

What I take from this: Howland’s wins come against teams very inexperienced in Beilein’s unorthodox system, not built to play his way. Beilein’s team wins when they’re the more experienced. I would say tonight’s game fits this pattern. It may only be his second year at Michigan, but his team is much less reliant on freshmen (4 combined for 48 mins for us, 2 combined for 30 for them) adjusting to the college game. Our seniors didn’t play well either, true, but as mentioned above, the mixing and molding of the entire team around those new players hasn’t happened quite yet, and needs to happen.

Let’s expand on the point re. mixing and molding of the entire ream, something rye also brought attention to in his must read post below.

I will go back to this post in which I laid out two of the top factors which I think are key to this edition of Bruins have a successful season this year. First, this is what I wrote re. DC’s “decision making”

Yet notwithstanding DC's greatness, I think there is some room for improvement for this great Bruin guard. I think if DC has an Achilles heel it is his decisiveness as the floor general while we are on offense. Let me see if I can explain this. From what I have seen from DC in last three years, it seems at times he needs to be a little more authorative around his decisions on whether to take the shot or pass it off to his team-mates. In his defense in his first three years at UCLA, in terms of scoring he had more prolific scorers in AA, JF and then KL (a once a generation freshman) to which he often gave up the ball to. However, at times it seemed like UCLA offense lagged a bit as DC was waiting around to make his final decisions. So, I think this year we might see a little less of that as DC will be one of the primary scorers in our offense. In that case, I think DC needs to be a just tick faster in making his decisions on whether to launch or drive for his shot rather than passing off to another team-mate. We need DC to be more aggressive in decision making and hopefully his unquestioned stature as the senior leader will make the process a little easier.

Well, sadly last night DC made my point. I think the key here is what jaffa and rye already alluded to above. This is a matter of our guys figuring out and getting comfortable in their roles and syncing up with each other. It’s also a matter of DC taking charge of this team by trusting his own strengths and instincts. We saw how last night at times he was trying to be too unselfish (botching scoring chances on fast break or passing up wide open shots). He needs to get into the mindset that he is the unquestioned floor general during crunch time and then take over accordingly.

If DC is having issues taking over, I don’t think it might be a bad idea for Howland to have JH run the point and move DC at 2 setting him up for wide open jumpers. It worked number of times last year when Howland had RW running the point, who was instinctively more aggressive and sure footed in making his decisions on whether or not to attack the rim himself or passing it off to the best available option.

Also, in the same post I wrote about DC’s decision making, I also noted the need for “consistency” from JS:

Now that JS is fully healthy there is a chance we can see JS from his freshman season, who foreshadowed the kind of Ben Ball we have been accustomed to courtesy of warriors such as LRMAM and RW last three seasons Interestingly CBH has dropped hint that we may see JS spend some time at the 4 (which caught JS by surprise). That might not be a bad deal because it could be a move to field a guard heavy lineup exerting even more tenacious defensive pressure. Remember Howland did the same thing in his second year playing DT at the 4.

Ultimately, I think if JS were to have a memorable last season at UCLA, it will have to be centered around his total commitment to all out defense, sheer tenacity and hustle, that will allow him to emerge as the replacement of LRMAM in this year's squad. If he brings that defensive tenacity and then let his offensive instincts take over within the scheme of Howland's offense, JS might break out with one of the more memorable final year, a Bruin senior has put together in some time. Given what the kid has been through you can bet we all are going to be rooting for him.

JS had an awful night. He didn’t play great defense and he was totally unfocused on offense. Except for his first strong drive to the hoop, frankly he looked like a missile without a guidance system rest of the game. It was a disappointing night for the senior who turned the ball over team-leading 6 times (DC was second with 4).

Again JS’s contribution to this team will have to start with defense and playing within the scheme of this offense. I also think, it makes sense for Howland to given ML more mins early in the season so that we have a credible option at 3 when we head into the Pac-10 season. One concern I have had with CBH (and ironically it’s the same one I have with Neuheisel and Chow who been stubborn in their commitment to giving Bell more time at TB over Coleman and other young backs) is that he is often too ferociously loyal to his upperclassmen. I thought RW deserved more than 9 mins per game in his first season. But hey … I don’t care if I don’t win this argument given what Howland has done in Westwood. Still, for the sake of discussion, I think Bruins will be better off this year if Howland loosens up the shackle on his talented freshmen.

I would love to see ML getting more time at the 3 and also DG and JM getting their mins early in the season. I haven’t seen anything in the papers this am, but I am assuming JM didn’t get any mins because he might still be working into game shape, and Howland might have thought he wasn’t ready for the 1-3-1 zone. Howland confirmed that assumption on Dohn's blog:

"It's a hard game for both of those freshman big guys (Drew Gordon being the other) to match up against them defensively because they're so out on the perimeter,'' Howland said. "(Morgan) is a center used to playing around the basket, so I think it would be very difficult for J'mison.''

Here are some other tidbits from last night’s game that stood out to me:

  • We only made 5 out 11 FTs. That will not get it done and will burn us again if we keep shooting that way. What stood out to me were the clunkers from JK, MR and JS. I understand if AA2 clunks from the charity stripes, but we can’t have guys like MR and JS looking out of sync from the FT line. It cost us the game last night.
  • ND looks much improved on defense.  He is not looking lost out there anymore. However, he is still forcing the action a little bit by jacking up shots. He was forcing it and not taking them within the flow of the game. Again the improvement is encouraging, but he still needs to settle down on offense.
  • JK had a great start last night (like rest of the team). He was active around the boards accounting for 6 offensive rebounds (team leading 8 total rebounds). However, like rest of the team he didn’t have a strong finish and got somewhat lost during second half.
  • JH … wanted to save the best for last. I had to chuckle when Dukee V mentioned that he wasn’t a “one and done” type. He showed last night that right now he is the best athlete in our team. He was smooth. Forget the pretty jumpshots or the effortless gliding to the rack, my jaw was dropping the effort he was showing on the defensive side with couple of spectacular block shots. I will reiterate what I mentioned above … I’d love to see CBH let JH run the point and shift DC over to 2. I think we might see some of the spectacular results we saw when he was doing the same with RW.

Anyway, in closing I am not all that shook up over this loss unlike some of the irregulars who came by to post their knee jerk reactions giving the impression that sky is falling. Again, our request for those guys are simple. Dial up the talk shows.

As for Howland, here was his response to last night’s setback:

Standing in a crowded hallway, somewhere deep inside Madison Square Garden, Ben Howland hurried his players outside and back toward their hotel.

It was past midnight, the UCLA coach in no mood to wait around.

"Early practice," he said.

Don't be surprised if the fourth-ranked Bruins get some extra work this morning, maybe some quick tutoring, after their 55-52 upset loss to Michigan on Thursday night.

Bruins get back in action tonight against Southern Illinois, who got run out of the gym by bunch of Dukees, who always peak during football season (sending Vitale into a tizzy). I haven’t seen the Salukis much except for the few mins against Duke from last night. What stood out to me was that they seemed to have a pretty good inside game. They were hanging in there (down by 6 at the half time) until they imploded in the second. They will present a challenge for our front court through Carlton Fay, the sophomore forward who is leading the team in scoring (16.5) and rebounding (7.5). I will post some links to Saluki info during our game thread which will go up right before tipoff (2 pm PST).

So, in closing I am as worried about our team as I was following our thumping against Memphis in our last appearance at MSG. Our team has a long way to go. We are not a top-10 team right now. We are probably a top-15 team at best. If there is a silver lining, hopefully last night’s loss bring a heavy dose of perspective among those who have suddenly started paying attention to our basketball program following the Gonzaga magic. Right now based on our issues, I don’t see our team making the Final-4 or the Elite-8. I am fine with that. However, what I am excited about this season, is to watch this team grow and develop in what I am expecting to be the same roller coaster season we experienced in 2005-06. My suggestion for those who are in it for the long haul: show some patience and buckle up. For the rest who are panicking and reaching premature conclusions, don’t try to jump back on the bandwagon, when our warriors get it going.

GO BRUINS.

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Collison isn't a great point guard

He’s a great player but he’s never been a great offensive point guard. He’s not a great decision maker as far as passing the ball to get the teammates the easy shots.

Don’t get me wrong, I love it that he came back for his senior year and he’s great at everything else he does.

I like the idea of putting JH at point guard and having Collison be the 2 guard.

by mizzou on Nov 21, 2008 5:50 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Mother Nature

In the 40+ years I’ve been addicted to UCLA basketball, the Bruins have never traveled well to cold weather. Not only is the cross-country trip worse west-to-east than east-to-west, but going all the way back to 1964-65, when the Bruins lost twice in Chicago in the midwinter but eventually won the championship, the team has never performed well in the cold. And it’s cold in New York right now—lows in the 20s last night. A shot here, a shot there, and we’re not having this discussion. Maybe it’s better at this point of the season to play the Salukis than the Dukies, who have almost everyone back and are always strong, as Nestor points out, this time of year. I’m not going to wring my hands and moan. Let’s wait till March to see how this year’s team turns out.

by Herodotus on Nov 21, 2008 5:54 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Right Now...

Nestor-

Thanks for trying to keep a lid on the flamers.

I also appreciated your comments above. One in particular stuck out to me. “Right now…not final 4 or elite 8”. This would have been completely worrisome in the Lavin era, when the team did not improve as the season went along.

We can be confident, by contrast, that the team right now will not be the team in March, thanks to CBH’s tutelage.

by islandbruin on Nov 21, 2008 6:16 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

we wouldn't even be...

talking about the possibility of a final four or elite 8 in the lavin era. the fact that we are expecting it or even taking it for granted is a luxury. but as has been pointed out, we had a lot of turnover last year, and so the reality of the situation is we probably are not there yet.
i don’t there’s anything wrong with being a bit critical of the game… and i’m as frustrated as anyone, but there’s no need to panic just yet. i think we can stand to be a little more dynamic with the offense. there were major gaps in the zone beilein was playing that we didn’t seem to even look to take advantage of. and for someone that spent a lot of time out in michigan and is very familiar with the talent at msu and um, i also don’t think it’s fair to bail ourselves out by characterizing michigan as a good/great team. well coached, maybe. not as atrocious as last year, yes. but our talent far surpasses theirs. they are young, just like we. this was what is was. a bad game on our part and one in which the opponent did what they had to do to win. i can accept that. i too had my flight booked this morning for a duke-bruin matchup at msg today, but i am realistic enough to admit we aren’t ready for that matchup just yet.

we will be ok.

by seattlebruin17 on Nov 21, 2008 7:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The way you tell people who know basketball from those who dont:

People that don’t know basketball expect a team to lose Love, Westbrook, and LRM without missing a beat.

Those that do know that plugging freshmen or backups into their place will lead to a dropoff, particularly early in the year.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 21, 2008 7:02 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

And LMR

As I wrote in the thread, last night, LMR was the role model for hard work and commitment every minute he was in practice or on the floor. We need that to balance our youth.

Also, at this time last year, LMR was more reliable than KL and stepped in during crunch time.

You are absolutely right, we’ve lost 4 key players — 3 of whom had played together for a while and KL who was a once in a long time player.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 21, 2008 7:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

As frustrating as this was...

…In the light of morning, I’d probably rather have a coach who sees this for what it is, an early season game against a gimmicky defense that they won’t see for the rest of the year. No reason to spend a week preparing for one game in November when you should be working on the base of fundamentals that you’ll need in March.

Still, it sucks to watch them lose. And they really need to find some offense inside. Not even so much for the points, but to keep defenses honest and to give the perimeter guys some room.

by LA Seitz on Nov 21, 2008 7:11 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Offense has to loosen up

I’ve got to agree with the points made by Nestor that they’re all pretty much spot on. But nonetheless, there are some constant variables I feel we need to stay keen on.

First, we all know that the CBH’s defense is remarkable. Even for a fairly new squad that is still gelling, last night’s defense was better than most senior starting squads. As for a few mistakes here and there, it’ll all be resolved soon with a few more real game experience. So defense is not questionable.

Offense, that’s another story. I’m sure that some may not agree with me, and may feel that the young team excuse is the answer all, but I’d have to say that it has to be a lot more than that. After all CBH has gotten us to where we are today, and I’m telling ya’ll that I agree with you wholeheartedly. But that isn’t to say that we shouldn’t keep a pulse on what may be deemed as a “chronic” issue.

What Nestor alluded to in regards to CBH loosening up the reins is that such issue. Watching last night’s game, IMHO, I felt that game was an incredibly reasonable win for us. Sure, Coach Belein’s 1-3-1 causes unorthodox problems for us, but I gotta tell ya, I didn’t think that his 1-3-1 was very tight. It had lots of seams, and the traps came very late when they began to spread it out. Compared to the 1-3-1 Belein’s had in the past at WVU I’d give Michigan’s performance a 6 out of 10.

This is where I feel that CBH needs to let his players (primarily) his guards some room to be creative. DC and esp. JH have exceptional ball handling skills. I thought that was evident throughout the night, just not often enough. JH definitely was offensively superior to everyone on the floor last night. He should have had the ball more in the second half. As suggested here, maybe he should have run the point occasionally to create more offense.

Generally, I just think that CBH has to allow his guards to play more instinctively and creatively. That’s the nature of their position. We’ve all witnessed this over the years. When things the guars take matter into their own hands, play loose, they create if not score (JF, RW, DC). We’ve seen it way too many times. But the moment game is a little tight, then you see the guards abandon their creativity and freedom and play a predictable, textbook offensive scheme (pass the ball around, cut and screens, etc). If you make the offense to rigid, then they suffocate (i.e. tend to think to much, indecisiveness) which make the overall offense sloppy and anemic. Any thoughts?

by tommybruin on Nov 21, 2008 7:36 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

DC

While I don’t know how realistic it is for CBH to totally change his offensive philosophy, I do agree with a lot of your points about letting the guards loose. You want find a bigger DC supporter than me, but I think the problem is that he thinks he is just like everyone else on the team when he clearly is not. It makes sense for some of the other players to be hesitant about shooting the ball or making a decision since there are people behind them to take their place should they mess up. But I think it is pretty clear that JA is a year away. Because of this, and the trust that CBH has in DC, he should not ever think twice about what he is doing out there. Part of his hesitancy might just be early season chemistry with everyone trying to figure out what their role for the team will be, but in order for other people to find their roles, DC has to be the assertive leader we know he can be.

DC is one of the best 3 point shooters in the country—shoot more of them. DC can drive around his man any time he wants—get to the basket. DC can draw fouls and make free throws when he drives to the basket—do it!

The idea of moving DC to the 2 and JH to the 1 seems to be a knee jerk reaction. JH is a fantastic player, but in the 5 games so far (I’m including the 2 exhibition games) he has shown that he is in fact a freshman and I don’t think it would be smart to put the added burden of running the offense when he is still learning it himself. Things will work themselves out and hopefully as the season moves on, JH can handle the ball a little more allowing DC some room to spot up. All things considered though, I still believe DC is the best point guard in the country and the heart of this team

by bruinponcho on Nov 21, 2008 10:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

DC

DC is a fantastic player. I’ve seen it with my own eyes, many, many, many times. I’ve seen him be the scorer, the defender, the clutch last-shot taker, and the team leader. But what I see right now is a guy that is trying to get his team involved.

And you know what? It’s the right thing to do.

UCLA could have won that game. If Howland had said, “DC, take every shot in the 2nd half,” UCLA would have won, I am certain of that. But this isn’t about preseason games. This is about March Madness. And DC cannot win March Madness by himself.

I hate losing. Couldn’t sleep last night. But this team has a long way to go, and there’s no stronger lesson than a nationally televised loss to an unranked team.

Pass no judgment on this team, this coach, or these players. I am absolutely, completely, 100% confident that by season’s end, this team will be organized, tight, and prepared. As always.

Go Bruins!

by jjreicher on Nov 21, 2008 7:53 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm glad your posts are done, BruinAlum

because I think they make very little sense.

I think what you’re asking Coach Howland to do is to abandon the team approach that has served us fairly well over the past three years and go to a game with five guys playing one-on-one. I like the steel-town approach with the grinding, because it equates to winning.

It sounds to me like your definition of success for Coach Howland is whether he is being asked to coach in the NBA. Well, I guess you would have to count Coach Wooden as a failure, too. He never progressed beyond Westwood.

Adios, BruinAlum. I guess we can chat with you on the “Fire Coach Howland” blog. I’m sure you’ll have lots of traffic.

by Fox 71 on Nov 21, 2008 9:10 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Your reference to steel city tenacity and drive

resonates with me deeply.

The legacy of Howland here in Pittsburgh is one of unity. Everyone remembers him as a coach who emphasized the importance of team and who rejected Hollywood super-star like players. No OJ’s to be found on Howland’s teams.

Perhaps this is just my own opinion, but I am almost glad that we are facing some adversity during this time. I think that if we, at this time, did not fail occasionally, it would indicate that coaching has little influence on results. And if there is one successful constant in Bruin Basketball, it is Coach Howland. So if players had no need for great coaching and time to develop under someone like Howland, then we should be extremely worried and distraught over last night’s loss.
However, if we believe in Howland’s ability to foster great players (and we have plenty of evidence to justify such a belief) then last night’s mishap is quite natural, and in the long run to our advantage.

Our opponents, after all, don’t have a coach named Ben.

by eubruin on Nov 21, 2008 9:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Freshmen!

I don’t think I need to add my voice to cacophony going on here, but I will because it makes me feel better.

I noticed that at the point when the game turned (late in the first half) we had three freshmen on the floor Holiday, Gordon and Anderson. Gordon looked lost defensively and Anderson was rushing into his offensive sets. These mistakes will be corrected in time. Besides, these kids have a ton of talent, these mistakes won’t last. As much as it hurt watching those Michigan fans dance on the stands in the telecast, we must remember the program is one of the best in the nation it’s not everyday that we lose.

Eyes on the prize! Win the pac-10, win the pac-10 tournament and get a high seed. What matters is how the team plays in March, not November.

Victory or until next year!

by ncrpz2 on Nov 21, 2008 9:33 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I think the reaction of UCLA BB fans...

…is indicative of just how spoiled we have become since Ben Howland took over the program.

While it is true that this team has experienced veteran leadership in DC, JS and AA, two of those three players have significant limitations (AA and JS).

We are so used to BH’s teams systematically running through early season opponents that I think many of us have lost sight of the fact that any team can beat another team on any given night.

This will be an interesting season, and our success is dependant on how much the team learns how to play as a unit as well as how much the freshmen can develop and contribute.

The criticism of the kids and Howland that I am seeing on this and other message boards is absurd. Let’s see how this thing plays out.

by Ajax on Nov 21, 2008 9:36 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I think you hit the nail on its head

We’re spoiled and we’re expect so much from a young squad. Sure, we have veterans on the team, but only one is a true super star (DC). JS has yet to prove himself as a consistent leader. AA2 has his moments, but he is not an all-american center. In fact, he’s not really even a true center. My point isn’t to criticize our players. They are outstanding student athletes and, as much as I hate to see them lose, I am confident they will start to gel even if it takes a few losses. Sometimes it takes a loss to get a team going.

I agree with Nestor and others re DC. He needs to be the floor general. He needs to do a little run and gun because he has the talent to collapse a defense, even a gimmicky one. He has the ability to pick up the team when we’re down and I am waiting for him let loose a little and do his thing. I am sure he will as he gets a little more comfortable.

I have no doubt that DC and all of our bruins will pull together.

by UCLAbruin920 on Nov 21, 2008 9:57 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

A little venting

and then I’m done.

Let’s keep the bashing of our young men on this site to a minimum. Let’s remember that they are still amateurs learning this game and developing both physically and mentally. Let’s also remember that a couple of players decided to return this year for a last shot at a championship….yet I keep seeing post after post after post paying homage to those who left UCLA early to fulfill their own dreams.

In short, how ’bout a little more love for those playing for the 4 letters, and a little less for those playing for the 3 (NBA)?

Rant over. It’s all good. Go Bruins.

by godblesstyus95 on Nov 21, 2008 9:42 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Beautifully stated

People need to keep in mind that these are young people who are developing both as players and persons.

by eubruin on Nov 21, 2008 9:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's November, people

I know that the majority of posters here can take this loss at face value, but man, there sure is still a lot of unnecessary hand wringing for a game played on the 20th of NOVEMBER.

I’m as high strung as anyone down the stretch. Come February and March I’m practically a basket case. Maybe with last year’s team, returning so many experienced players and a game ready freshman like KLove, I might expect more from them than I would another team early in the season. What we have now is almost the opposite, with kids in their third game asked to shoulder the burden of being a “top 5” team. Even last year you would have had a hard time convincing me to get agitated over a December loss (like the Texas one). This year you can forget about it. Wins and Losses in November? Please. I just want to see improvements. I want to see the freshmen learn from their mistakes, and they will make plenty of them. That’s how you play at your best in March, when it really counts. Call me if our guys are still confused and disoriented in January, then maybe we’ll talk.

by Tydides on Nov 21, 2008 10:24 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

A Bruin loss

is always hard to take. But this loss provides another opportunity for CBH to teach these young men the value of focus and preparation. Having to travel cross country and play in a high profile game against a much older team will help pay dividends at the back end.

Sure, we won’t go undefeated this year (aw shucks) but it’s games like this that will help to reinforce this TEAM through the remainder of the season. I’m sure that there will be more time practicing FTs before we get to March.

UCLA - the finest public university in the world!

by SecondGenBruin on Nov 21, 2008 11:41 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Wishlist

Here is my wishlist for the rest of the OCC schedule:

- DC continues to play the team game, but does shoot a few more 3. he is the leader of this team and now is the time to give up efficiency for volume.

- Gordon, Lee and Morgan get more playing time. it will be painful but well worth if for march and future years. I remember against gonzaga, how DC turned the ball over a few times and thinking to myself this guy is killing us. the next year he was nearly an all-american.

- Jrue gets more comfortable in his role as SG for this team. we need him to deliver 14-18 points a game

- AA2, Keefe, Drago and Roll play with consistency; during some parts of yesterday’s game each showed some sign of being the player we need; here’s to them doing that every game for 40 minutes.

by bruintarheel on Nov 21, 2008 12:13 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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Telemachus_small Telemachus

Small Odysseus

Blue_bellerophon_small Bellerophon

Authors

Images_small Ryan Rosenblatt

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