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UCLA Bruins at Southern Illinois Salukis, Nov 21, 2008 2:00 PM PST


Let me echo godblesstyus95 (emphasis added):

Let’s remember that they [our Ben Ball warriors] are still amateurs learning this game and developing both physically and mentally. Let’s also remember that a couple of players decided to return this year for a last shot at a championship… how ’bout a little more love for those playing for the 4 letters, and a little less for those playing for the 3 (NBA)?

I am with him and with DC, JS, JK, AA2, JH and all of our boys:

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Photo Credit: Nick Laham/Getty Images (via Yahoo!)

Last night in someway might have been a necessary lesson which will give everyone a jarring sense of reality. But that doesn’t mean we get to mope around. Bruins are back in action this afternoon against Southern Illinois. I don’t have a lot of notes on the Salukis to share because of timing issue. You can check out there team pages on Sportsline.com and WWL.

The tipoff is scheduled for 2:00 pm PST.  It will be on ESPN2. You can also track it on our official site.

I do know that Coach Howland had our guys practicing early this am to get ready for the Salukis. He went right back to work to get our guys ready not just for this afternoon but for the long run. We will be with him and our warriors every step of the way.

So let’s buckle up and get started.

Fire away.

GO BRUINS.

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damn!!

Being stuck at work sucks.
Oh mighty employer release me!

Victory or until next year!

by ncrpz2 on Nov 21, 2008 2:05 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Must be nice

My employer/ lord requires my sacrifice

Victory or until next year!

by ncrpz2 on Nov 21, 2008 2:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

timing is nice here

on the east coast lol.

holiday with two great plays early

by bucknellbruin on Nov 21, 2008 2:07 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Where is all that experience they keep talking about?

We start 1 freshman, I guy who didn’t play much last year, and AA2 who may have played about 1/3 of a game.

Behind them, freshmen, and Drago and Roll. Not a lot of experience.

What am I missing here?

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 21, 2008 2:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm liking AA2 so far

one easy bucket off a great pass by Jrue, then drew the foul on that last play. Nice to see some early offense from our big men.

slow down, look up

by Point Guard 08 on Nov 21, 2008 2:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Took some good charges last night

playing steady, not too many fouls so far this year. Weak from the line and got beat on the back door last night.

But, he is so solid.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 21, 2008 2:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

May I recommend Slingbox for all those at work?

I came home, but could’ve watched on my computer.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 21, 2008 2:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Corporate firewall...

We get no streaming feeds from anywhere.

by Tydides on Nov 21, 2008 2:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You need a new job.

you can’t work for a place that puts a firewall between you and your bruins. Do you need us to give you updates more often?

Aboya makes his FT’s

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 21, 2008 2:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

ESPN 360

Anyone know how to work ESPN360? It says the game is on there.

http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/espn360/beta/index

by Raisin on Nov 21, 2008 2:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

your internet carrier has to allow access to it

then you just have to download a player and youre set

slow down, look up

by Point Guard 08 on Nov 21, 2008 2:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm

Doesn’t look like my work’s Internet carrier allows access. Back to the mid-00s way of Gamecast, I guess.

by Raisin on Nov 21, 2008 2:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

dukee v

By the way, did anyone read the review on his new book? It’s a giant middle finger to the entire west coast

Victory or until next year!

by ncrpz2 on Nov 21, 2008 2:13 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

keefe has been amazing on the offensive glass this year

and he actually got the putback this time! nice.

slow down, look up

by Point Guard 08 on Nov 21, 2008 2:14 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

he's a great color man

question his coaching tactics all you like, but i love him as an announcer. he knows the game and doesn’t talk too much

by bucknellbruin on Nov 21, 2008 2:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

Bob Knight is often a UCLA hater, especially come tourney time, it seems he is always predicting we are gonna lose our next game.
But, he has been a good color guy tonight, fairly insightful comments, really.

by haster123 on Nov 21, 2008 2:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

DC with a sweet NBA range 3.

Man he has such a nice stroke. I do wonder if we could run more sets to free up DC from range.

by haster123 on Nov 21, 2008 2:17 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Did you see lavin last night?

He looked like a reject from dancing with the stars — spray painted orange

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 21, 2008 2:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for all the updates

I was tempted to go lock myself in the car and listen to 570.

by Raisin on Nov 21, 2008 2:20 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Finally tuned in to the game on ESPN,

so thanks to all for the comments thus far.

by eubruin on Nov 21, 2008 2:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

ucla is shooting a ridiculous 8/11 right now

darren and jrue with 5 each, aboya with 4, keefe/morgan/shipp 2 each

slow down, look up

by Point Guard 08 on Nov 21, 2008 2:21 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The Team seems really fired up tonight.

Great focus on both ends of the floor. If they can keep up this intensity for 40 minutes, its gonna be a blow out.

by haster123 on Nov 21, 2008 2:22 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

nice jumper by drago

i love the confidence he seems to have over the past couple of games, after looking shaky against miami (oh). could be a great boost off the bench if he keeps it up.

slow down, look up

by Point Guard 08 on Nov 21, 2008 2:23 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

yuck

malcolm handed the ball to siu, miscommunication between him and drago

slow down, look up

by Point Guard 08 on Nov 21, 2008 2:25 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

looked like a bad call there
  1. climbed up JK’s back and keefe gets the foul?

by bucknellbruin on Nov 21, 2008 2:27 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Ahhh, come on James.

Gotta keep it under control.

by eubruin on Nov 21, 2008 2:27 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

great jumper by aboya

looking good tonight with 6 pts, 26-18

slow down, look up

by Point Guard 08 on Nov 21, 2008 2:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Aboya!!

I am very glad to see Aboya making that shot – he has been practicing it all off-season.

by eubruin on Nov 21, 2008 2:29 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

TV TO with 7:59 to go in the half

Focus has certainly come down a bit from the opening 10 minutes.

by haster123 on Nov 21, 2008 2:29 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The stream

The stream is up at bruinvideos.com now.

by MbootyMah on Nov 21, 2008 2:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

and one

makes the ft

by db018 on Nov 21, 2008 2:32 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Good ball movement

Finding the open man underneath in Aboya

by MbahABako on Nov 21, 2008 2:33 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

aboya wide open under the basket for 2

8 points tonight for AA2

slow down, look up

by Point Guard 08 on Nov 21, 2008 2:33 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Did you see Aboya throw/hold up his hands (defensively)

I’m not a bball player, but it seems that he is really holding himself back defensively…

by eubruin on Nov 21, 2008 2:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

aboya with another great offensive board

but too quick to go up with the followup and misses

slow down, look up

by Point Guard 08 on Nov 21, 2008 2:34 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Anyone else bothered that SIU has a Fey on their team?

I had erased that name from my UCLA memory…

slow down, look up

by Point Guard 08 on Nov 21, 2008 2:34 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Aboya down and hurt!

was fouled. limping a bit but up

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 21, 2008 2:35 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

wide open 3 by siu

perimeter defense has been lacking, siu 4 for 6 from 3

slow down, look up

by Point Guard 08 on Nov 21, 2008 2:36 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

finally out of class

hello all, lets finish the half strong

O.A.

by Ollie on Nov 21, 2008 2:40 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

nice aggressive driveby roll

off an ninbounds pass, draws the foul

slow down, look up

by Point Guard 08 on Nov 21, 2008 2:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The foul shooting

is horrid. There’s no excuse for the Rolls and Dragovic’s of the world to be missing this many FTs.

by Raisin on Nov 21, 2008 2:44 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

score?

Victory or until next year!

by ncrpz2 on Nov 21, 2008 2:46 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

my goodness

siu misses both ft’s, grabs the offensive board, and misses the putback

slow down, look up

by Point Guard 08 on Nov 21, 2008 2:46 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

nice pass inside to aboya

who draws a foul. i love how involved in the offense he is thus far

slow down, look up

by Point Guard 08 on Nov 21, 2008 2:47 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

What a break

for us. Over and back.

by bruin8uclap on Nov 21, 2008 2:50 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Why

Why shoot that.

by bruin8uclap on Nov 21, 2008 2:50 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

second game in a row

we build a fairly big lead in the middle of the first half, and let it slip away. We’re not playing bad per se today. SIU is great from the 3 tonight, which is seemingly keeping them in the game.

slow down, look up

by Point Guard 08 on Nov 21, 2008 2:51 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

and after a forced turnover

josh shipp dunks it after the buzzer 35-33 at the half

O.A.

by Ollie on Nov 21, 2008 2:51 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I would have liked to have seen

him shoot the ball to beat the buzzer. Maybe he didn’t see the clock in time.

by eubruin on Nov 21, 2008 2:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Poor finish to the half

And some missed FTs. Should be up more than 2.

by Raisin on Nov 21, 2008 2:52 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Frustrating when we can't play the last minutes of a half

we let them stay in the game.

We really need to comeout strong next half.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 21, 2008 2:52 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

anybody know what the rebounding advantage was last night?

i remember us having a huge advantage in the first half ,but never saw the final numbers

slow down, look up

by Point Guard 08 on Nov 21, 2008 2:53 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I don't think that we are playing within

Howland’s system right now (sorry if that is completely obvious). I am very much looking forward to see us employ CH’s offensive and defensive systems.

by eubruin on Nov 21, 2008 2:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Where's Collison?

Let me make it clear that I’m not suggesting any long term problems for DC or the team. However, he just doesn’t seem to be all there early in the season. He’s scoring, but that’s never what made him the best point guard in America. I’m used to him playing great defense, creating turnovers, not giving up many turnovers, and racking up the assists. So far this season, all he’s doing is scoring, even against easy opponents. Just interested to hear what everyone else thinks.

by truebruin on Nov 21, 2008 3:00 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Last night

he had 6 assists, about his normal amount for his career. I think what’s hurting him now is the TOs. He had a couple of unforced TOs last night. A little more time in the game and that’ll clear out.

Victory or until next year!

by ncrpz2 on Nov 21, 2008 3:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i expect a better 2nd half... probably a tighter rotation in the 2nd half...

good experience for the freshmen, but the players will be able to get into a rhythm in the 2nd half… of course, it depends on who gets the minutes…

by Trisani888 on Nov 21, 2008 3:01 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

We are playing lots of guys and lots of combinations

Neither DC nor anyone else can get into a rhythm this way. But, we need to do it to get our guys experience and start building chemistry.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 21, 2008 3:01 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

aboya almost gets an and 1

going to the line for 2

O.A.

by Ollie on Nov 21, 2008 3:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

rebounding is bad today

No one is blocking out at all

by bucknellbruin on Nov 21, 2008 3:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

something's wrong with Shipp

he just looks out of it. Can’t make a shot and he looked like he didn’t even try on that defensive play. He looked like he didn’t even care. I don’t know if it’s a school thing or a girl thing or what, but something’s up with him

by bucknellbruin on Nov 21, 2008 3:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

not getting the breaks this week

not giving excuses, but sometimes that just happens. THe SIU guy dribbled it off his knee, collison went for the steal, then it bounced right back to him and he got a layup.

Just go with it now and we’ll get those bounces come March

by bucknellbruin on Nov 21, 2008 3:22 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

ohhhhh

wonderful pass ahead from aboya to dc to malcolm and the and 1 chance

O.A.

by Ollie on Nov 21, 2008 3:22 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

We need more of that Aboya.

by bruin8uclap on Nov 21, 2008 3:23 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

HUGE dunk by Aboya

put that guy on a poster

by bucknellbruin on Nov 21, 2008 3:23 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

and another missed free throw

roll fouls on the box out

O.A.

by Ollie on Nov 21, 2008 3:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

48-43, 12:03 to go SI time out

thing is , there is gonna be a tv time out on the next dead ball.

by haster123 on Nov 21, 2008 3:25 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Do we have any steals?

That used to be he fuel that drove us last year. Steals and fast breaks. Don’t see many lately. RW is missed.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 21, 2008 3:26 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Ha! The Onion is great.

by bruin8uclap on Nov 21, 2008 3:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What a block

Gordon STUFFS a siu guy on a fastbreak

by bucknellbruin on Nov 21, 2008 3:29 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

drew gordon fly swats a fast break for SIU

O.A.

by Ollie on Nov 21, 2008 3:29 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

haha my roommate just said

“We’ll see that one of sportscenter tonight…”

by bucknellbruin on Nov 21, 2008 3:30 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Drew Gordon's hair rocks

Script UCLA etched into the side of his head. The last UCLA #0 with an interesting hairstyle turned out to be a pretty good player for us. An omen?

by Tetelestai on Nov 21, 2008 3:33 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

there we go

DC for Three! we’re up 6

O.A.

by Ollie on Nov 21, 2008 3:36 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Nice pair of 3's by DC

I wish we ran more sets for him. He is SUCH a good shooter

by haster123 on Nov 21, 2008 3:37 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

DC AGAIN

there we go Bruins!!!

by bucknellbruin on Nov 21, 2008 3:37 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

and another three for DC

atta boy 9-0 run we’re up 9

O.A.

by Ollie on Nov 21, 2008 3:37 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

breaking news here

we have FOUR timeouts left with 8:30 left
that’s gotta be a new record for BH lol

by bucknellbruin on Nov 21, 2008 3:38 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

yep

it’s been happening all week…it’ll even out eventually

by bucknellbruin on Nov 21, 2008 3:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

this is bruin basketball

we’re starting to see right now. Aggressive D and smart efficient offense

by bucknellbruin on Nov 21, 2008 3:39 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

What a great game...

…for AA2. I hope he gets a double double.

by Raisin on Nov 21, 2008 3:40 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

JS 1 for 5, 3 rebounds

When Josh gets it going we will get it going.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 21, 2008 3:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Happy for big Alfred!!!

Good to see hard work, team play being rewarded!

by mplsbruin on Nov 21, 2008 3:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Is Knight on crack?

by bruin8uclap on Nov 21, 2008 3:42 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Last night's refs were not great

totally blew the call on DC’s shot.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 21, 2008 3:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

"Aboya knocks it down, he has 18"

What a great way to return to the game.

by eubruin on Nov 21, 2008 3:42 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Is this the showtime Lakers I’m seeing here!

by bruin8uclap on Nov 21, 2008 3:45 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

oohohohohohohohohohohoho

shipp in trouble goes around teh back, then dc around the back to aboya for a monster jame

O.A.

by Ollie on Nov 21, 2008 3:45 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

awesome sequence of events

and Aboya now has 22 points tonight

by bruinhoo on Nov 21, 2008 3:45 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

For those who missed this, it cannot be described

shipp steals, goes behind back to DC who goes behind back to AA2 who dunks

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 21, 2008 3:45 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

And those weren't show-boat passes

They were the easiest passes to make under the circumstances, given where the defender was and where the pass had to go.

by Fox 71 on Nov 21, 2008 3:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

my f'in computer

froze on me, last time i saw the score was tied, what happened?

Victory or until next year!

by ncrpz2 on Nov 21, 2008 3:46 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

that was absolutely outstanding

as noted, indescribable really

O.A.

by Ollie on Nov 21, 2008 3:46 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Agree

It looked like no contact, so it must have been a neutral zone infraction.

by Fox 71 on Nov 21, 2008 3:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

ticky tack foul

on JH. looked like good D to me

by bucknellbruin on Nov 21, 2008 3:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

great pass

by Drago. Shipp and 1

by bucknellbruin on Nov 21, 2008 3:50 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

for the people watching

does SIU play zone or man defense?

Victory or until next year!

by ncrpz2 on Nov 21, 2008 3:50 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

We could ask CHP

No, wait. He doesn’t know the difference.

by Fox 71 on Nov 21, 2008 3:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But he is as orange as a basketball

and probably spent the night at a Holidya In express

You are a very cruel man, fox.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 21, 2008 3:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

and 1 chance for shipp

on a nice dish from drago

O.A.

by Ollie on Nov 21, 2008 3:50 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

fun night guys

gotta go to dinner…nice bounce back game by our guys

by bucknellbruin on Nov 21, 2008 3:51 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

JS is so strong -- fouled hard and finishes

Great pass from Drago — he is playing very well this year

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 21, 2008 3:51 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

UCLA just has trouble with the 1-3-1

i think we have the shooters this year to shred a 2-3 zone, but the gimmicky 1-3-1 just kept the bruins off balance last night.

by geneucla on Nov 21, 2008 3:52 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I won't argue with you

In the past we’ve had trouble with zone defenses, I agree totally that we have the sheer-shooting raw talent to rip a conventional zone. I would like to see how they play the triangle and 2, Timmah was running that last year

Victory or until next year!

by ncrpz2 on Nov 21, 2008 3:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nicely done tonight everyone.

Great comments and good updates (Trisani thanks for the near play-by-play)

by eubruin on Nov 21, 2008 3:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hope AA2 is ok

He’s a tough cookie.

by Raisin on Nov 21, 2008 3:56 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

If AA2 could take that fastball in the face at UW

a little thing like a compound wrist fracture isn’t going to slow him any.

by Fox 71 on Nov 21, 2008 3:59 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Nicely done tonight everyone.

Great comments and good updates (Trisani thanks for the near play-by-play)

by eubruin on Nov 21, 2008 4:00 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

JMM

with an and 1 chance

O.A.

by Ollie on Nov 21, 2008 4:02 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Now, its time to root for Michigan !!

I would so love to see them crush Duke, and I think they have a decent shot of winning that game.

by haster123 on Nov 21, 2008 4:02 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

He may not be such a nice and great person

But there is no doubt he knows basketball.

"I always wondered why somebody doesn't do something about that. Then I realized I was somebody." -Lily Tomlin

by uclaisthebest123 on Nov 21, 2008 4:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I've always like Bobby

he’s a character, he speaks his mind, he’s brutally honest, but he knows the game

O.A.

by Ollie on Nov 21, 2008 4:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

well that was fun

a good bounce back, hopefully we learned something about ourselves here in New York…have a great friday everyone

O.A.

by Ollie on Nov 21, 2008 4:04 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

very eloquent... as usual for a BH coached player... DC pimping AA2 right now...

" if he plays like that every night, it’s going to be hard for us to lose" (or something like that)

by Trisani888 on Nov 21, 2008 4:05 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Good night, all

I’ll be rooting for Michigan, naturally.

And I can’t help but root for Texas Tech tomorrow at Norman.

by Fox 71 on Nov 21, 2008 4:07 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

its unfortunate that maybe 6 people

were watching the end of that xavier vt game lol..

O.A.

by Ollie on Nov 21, 2008 4:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Crazy finish

What a buzzer shot… just goes to show you, it ain’t over till it’s over.

"I always wondered why somebody doesn't do something about that. Then I realized I was somebody." -Lily Tomlin

by uclaisthebest123 on Nov 21, 2008 4:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thoughts on tonights game

Things I liked:
DC’s outside shooting.
AA2 imposing his will.
JS’s 2nd half
Freshmen getting good minutes.
Improved FT shooting

Things that need to improve:
Defensive lapses, too many open 3’s, easy cuts.
Freshmen being freshmen (TO’s, bad shots, silly fouls)

All and all, a very good, fairly intense, confidence building game. This “road” trip is going to pay nice dividends down the road.

by haster123 on Nov 21, 2008 4:14 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

This is pretty much exactly what I took away from the game. Though our defense is grat, I am not a big fan of playing thirty seconds of it before giving up a three or an easy hoop. A few more turnovers would be nice, as they would speed up the pace of the game and let our athletes take over. This pace is not conducive to this particular Bruin team. All in all, however, this was a good win and this trip was a good measuring stick for the team at this point in the season.

by WestsideBrandon on Nov 21, 2008 9:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting

No drive-by…praise?

by bruin8uclap on Nov 21, 2008 4:22 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Easy buckets

are the difference between today’s game and yesterday’s. We hadn’t had a dunk the past two games, and tonight we got the transistion game going and took advantage of those opportunities. Couple that with our defense and we’ve got a good season coming up. A November loss is not even close to being the worst that could happen to this team. Good job seniors, good job Bruins.

by WestsideBrandon on Nov 21, 2008 9:37 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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Menelaus2_small Menelaus

Arron_afflalo1_small Tydides

Brad_pitt_as_achilles_small Achilles

Small Meriones

Telemachus_small Telemachus

Small Odysseus

Blue_bellerophon_small Bellerophon

Authors

Images_small Ryan Rosenblatt

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