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The Spread: A Formation? An Offense? Is It The Way To Go?

Defenses used to be far better than they are today at the college level. The NCAA has continued to limit the amount of practices, time of practices and contact coaches can have with players. The amount of time players have with coaches is far less than it used to be and it shows on the defensive side of the ball. For the same reasons the WCO is ineffective at the college level (not enough time to practice it), the spread is effective (not enough time to develop solid defensive fundamentals).

It is far easier to be successful offensively than it is defensively with limited practice time. The offense is in control and the defense has to react. On offense a player’s natural athletic ability can carry him very far. If you’re a dynamite athlete you will be successful in open space. If you can get athletes the ball in open space, you don’t need to coach them from that point on. Their athletic ability will handle the rest. On the other hand, if you get a defender in open space, he’s going to lose every time.

Think about the progression of a play. A receiver, running back or tight end just has to run his route. The defender has to read the play, find his way through bodies and get in position to tackle. If the quarterback can get the ball in a playmaker’s hands then he just has to use his athletic ability. A defender has to break down the offensive player, square him up, make a tackle and do all of this while he’s guessing what the offensive player will do. The offensive player is in control because he can do whatever he wants. He’s not bound by what the defensive player is doing. It’s far easier to be the chasee than the chaser. Now that’s just why is harder to be a defensive player than offensive player in one on one matchups.

There’s also the fact that defenders don’t practice the fundamentals often. With decreased practice time, there isn’t time to do intensive tackling, footwork and all the other individual drills. There’s barely enough time to work on scheming to get the players in position in the first place. Let’s see how the spread exploits this.

The spread, in any form, is one of the simpler offenses out there. It essentially works to get one on one matchups all over the field. If you’re going to pass out of the spread then the goal is to spread the field to either force a soft zone, which the offense can nibble at all the way down the field, or to force the defense to play man to man without any safety help or a personnel mismatch in coverage. If players are in one on one matchups the offense is going to win every time because #1, the offense if the chasee to the defense’s chaser and #2, the tackling and footwork of defenders has gone downhill with the amount of practice time.

Now when you’re talking about running out of the spread, the offense does the same thing as they do against the pass. To defend a 3 or 4 wide spread you must be in nickel or dime. If you’re not then you’re forced to play a soft zone that the offense can nibble at all the way down field. Now with a nickel or dime personnel spread wide because of the offensive formation the offense can run the ball against 5 or 6 in the box. That’s a win for the offense every time if they have a decent line because each lineman is allowed to get into a man on man matchup without the responsibility of getting onto a linebacker. At most, there will be one free linebacker and if one linebacker has to defend the entire box against the running back, he will lose to a decent running back nearly every time. The first time the running back will face a challenge is once he gets to the safeties and by then he’s picked up 8 yards.

As you can see, the entire point of the spread is to create one on one matchups. One on one matchups, combined with the inherent advantage of the offense and the diminishing fundamentals of the defense caused by practice time, allows the offense to win nearly every battle. If a defense is far more talented then the offense, the spread can be stopped, but if the talent level is marginally close or the offense has better talent, the defense has close to no shot.

As a coach you just want to put your players in a position to succeed and one on one matchups does that if you’re calling the offensive plays. That is why the spread works. Take the spread to the NFL and it wouldn’t move the ball because #1, NFL defense are faster and #2, NFL defenses are far better fundamentally and schematically because it is their job. They work on it 24/7. College players don’t have that luxury.

The spread is here to stay, at least in the college game and that is why. One on one matchups.

That was my comment on the spread, which I posted as part of the discussion spurred by Rhapsode's great fanpost. Rhapsode was commenting on the term "spread offense" and his belief that the spread i not an offense, but a formation.

The spread is a formation out of which a coach can run different offenses based on the talent available.  Watch Florida, Oklahoma, Texas Tech, and last year's West Virginia team and see what the offenses have in common.  Here's a hint: nothing.  Texas Tech almost never runs the ball while West Virginia tried not to throw the ball.  Sam Bradford is a drop pack passer while Tim Tebow leads his team in carries .  The only similarity between all of these teams is that they will often put  just 5 men up at the line and always have multiple split out receivers.

As you would expect, some disagreed with Rhapsode, including bucknellbruin.

the “spread” can actually be referred to as an offense. The “Pro-Set Offense”, which USC runs, is actually just an offense based off of pro sets, or pro-set formations. Our offense, which is common in college football, is the multiple offense, because it is run out of multiple formations. Hence, since Leach, Meyer, etc use primarily spread formations, the offense is referred to as the “spread”.

Then SuperBruinMan chimed in with his thoughts.

The problem is that Urban Meyer and Rich Rodriguez run the spread option, which is different. Too often they get lumped together, even though the spread option is more just a variation on the triple option.

The object of Rhapsode's post was to differentiate between the spread formation and the spread offense, however I believe he made a more poignant statement with this comment.

What I am trying to say is that scheme and play calling, whether out of the spread formation or a more conventional formation, need to fit the personnel available.  One offense or another does not guarantee more points, better recruits, or more wins.  Besides, like in basketball, the true goal is efficiency.  If you score on every possession, it doesn't matter if your drives take 1 minute or 10.

So in Rhapsode's opinion, Norm Chow's offense will be fine so long as athletic players who fit the system are recruited. While Norm Chow's offense could in fact be successful, is it really the way UCLA should go? It's very easy to argue that the Bruins should definitely be going the way of the spread when you consider that 7 of the nation's top 10 teams and the nation's 11 highest scoring offenses are running the spread. When you see those numbers, it's very easy to side with those who believe the spread is the way to go. That type of offense, whether the spread option or any other form of it has been very successful as of late. Of course, the team would need talent to be effective regardless of the scheme, but what about the future of the offense?

There's another side to that as well though. Defenses are starting build around the ability to stop the spread. Rhapsode also made this observation.

If you haven’t watched Oklahoma’s defense, it is something to behold. I don’t think I have ever seen a faster defense. This defense was built to stop spread offenses, whether they run or pass. There is speed at every position and the defense can clearly (after TTU) keep up with 5 receivers streaking across the field. However, this defense is very vulnerable to a good power running game.

I really think that Oklahoma is running the future of college defenses. This will combat the up and coming programs that can now sling the ball around the field and run toward open space. Eventually, this kind of defense will probably become so prevalent that coaches who run dinosaur offenses (see Big 10) will become innovators. Suddenly, their slow, unoriginal, running offenses will be able to plow right through the middle of new quick defenses.

Which side do you fall on? Is the spread an offense or a formation? Do you believe in the spread and believe it is here to stay? Should UCLA and other developing programs go with the spread? The possibilities of this discussion are endless so go at it.

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Ive never believed football is about scoring

Football is about controlling the game. Its about dictating the terms of the battle and fighting it on your terms.

One thing I do not like about the spread formation when overly used is it makes it impossible to control the pace of the game. I prefer an offense that allows you to control the pace and dictate the tempo of the game. There is a lot to be said for an 8 minute drive that results in a touchdown, something you never see in a big 12 game this year.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 26, 2008 2:03 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I disagree, Silver

(Ahh, back to normal — disagreeing with Silver.)

Texas Tech controlled the ball against Oklahoma. They had the ball longer (30:30 to 29:30), and ran only one less play. Oklahoma for some strange reason elected to score quickly. They had quite a few five play drives that took less than two minutes.

Scoring more than the other guy is target. It’s hard to maintain all the perfection necessary to make a play work for eight minutes. It doesn’t happen that much against evenly matched teams. If you run 12 perfect plays for 5 yards each, and consume 7 and a half minutes, only to fumble on play 13, you haven’t accomplished much.

I also dispute the notion about defenses getting worn down. Lots of teams score on their first possession against a fresh defense. And we’re not talking about some beer league, with guys barfing their guts out after two or three minutes. These are well-conditioned 20-year olds.

(It’s nice to know that the order is back in the BN universe. I was agreeing far too much with Silver. This is better.)

by Fox 71 on Nov 26, 2008 2:13 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Disorder once again

While I usually agree with you, Fox, this time I’m with Silver.

I think a long, drawn-out drive which results in a touchdown can be very effective. I think the team that can do that consistently “controls” the game and will likely win the game.

Having watched the OU-TT debacle, I am amazed that TT had the ball longer. Then again, OU did score quickly because the TT guys generally allowed the Sooners to visit the endzone regularly and easily. The OU defense chose to tackle the TT guys which likely resulted in more time of possession for Tech.

I would like to comment on the beer league analogy, but I’ve never played in a beer league. I may be barfing my guts out tomorrow night, but that will be for a different reason.

And a Happy Thanksgiving to all Bruins.

by Barnes2JJ on Nov 26, 2008 2:21 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chow-Down O for me

The spread is here to stay. There is a distincition within Spread offenses IMO.

1) Running Spread: This is a modification of the Option O’s of the past. Florida and WVA are prime examples. I put Florida here because they primarily run. Their O is led by a QB that is a better runner v passer. Their big plays are a product of teams overloading against the run if they get rolling.

2) Passing Spread: IMO, this is a modification of the Run & Shoot. Warren Moon with the Oilers comes to mind. This is TxTech & Tulsa They have a better passer v runner. Their running plays usually come from draws.

Both have strengths and weaknesses. The running spread is not good for comebacks because they rely so much on the run they have minimal experience and their personnel usually isn’t that great on the outside. The passing spread is not good once they get into the Redzone where the field is a lot more compact and they can’t get those tough 3rd and 1’s because their OL is far more developed in pass blocking v run blocking.

A team like OU has it all. They were just recently a power running team with AD and then modified their team to the Spread. The difference with the OU team is that they have a TE (Gresham) that moves like a WR but can also block like a normal TE. That allows their running game to be far more effective IMO. I like it but you need the personnel to run this offense which we don’t have. Look at how much Michigan struggled during this transition year. Rich will get it done but he needs to get those pieces to the puzzle.

Personally, I like the Pro-Set/Multiple O that Chow runs. It ain’t as flashy but it is very, very effective. The Spread O essentially saids, my guys are better than yours and they’ll beat some 1 on 1 match-up. There really isn’t any element of surprise or disguising the look. Love seeing the LB & SS getting sucked in and then going over the top. Chow has lots of different elements in his O. We haven’t fully seen them as our personnel won’t allow it at this time. Lastly, I agree that too much quick scoring is not good. It isn’t just about giving your D a breather but there is an intangible value when a team scores on a sustained drive. It is momentum building for the O and deflating to the opponent at the same time.

by BlueReign on Nov 26, 2008 9:55 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ball Control

I don’t think there’s any way to dictate tempo and control the pace of a football game. It’s not a flowing game like basketball. Pace and tempo is largely an accidental result of the defense. If the defense is good enough to allow just 4 yards per play, but not good enough to allow anything less, then a scoring drive can last 24 plays and 10:00. But it’s not in the hands of the offense, which is trying to get whatever it can.
 
Ball control only comes into play when you’re protecting a lead and you’re goal changes from scoring to minimizing mistakes and running clock. Then it becomes a “prevent offense,” which in my mind is about as successful as a prevent defense. The approach is fine if you have a big lead — or if you have a great defense and horrible offense, in which case the offense is a bigger threat to give up points than score them. But it seems faulty as a general approach to scoring.

And which would you prefer: an offense that’s great at running clock when it has a lead but is severely crippled when it needs to make a comeback, or vice-versa? Sure, it would be great to have an offense that can score quickly when it must and slowly when it prefers, but that kind of control just isn’t normally possible. And when weighing which is better—one that can only score slowly and one the can only score quickly—keep in mind that a long drive ending in a missed field goal (or TO) is just as deflating to the offense as it would’ve been to the defense had it scored.

Take our game against Tenn. All month long we heard about ball control and field position, about having to play a “perfect game.” Well, we had 4 picks, our special teams (save for the block) gave up great field position all day, and I believe they also killed us on T.O.P.

But we won with two lightning-quick scoring drives at the end.

by bluebland on Nov 26, 2008 10:54 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The spread

The spread is nothing more than just a very generic umbrella term that gets tossed around a lot by ESPN talking heads…nothing more. Not a specific formation, not a specific philosophy, and definitely not an offensive system. Simply just what’s pretty common in football these days, as the game constantly evolves. Decades ago the single-wing was prevalent throughout football, just like how these so called “spread” offenses are today, especially at the HS and college level…..guys like paul hurnung had to switch positions at the NFL, just like how many of the college QBs today move to WR or RB….same deal, eventually offensive schemes adapt, adjust, and continue to evolve.

unfortunately with ESPN and the media today, you hear terms like this over and over, listening to about how its ingenious to “spread the field” (EVERY good offensive system uses formations to influence how the defense lines up – that’s just a basic tenent of good offensive football), creating matchups (again, EVERY offensive approach is supposed to do this, you always want numbers on your side – basic principle of football).

Leads to a ton of truly horrible teams that believe that if they run a “spread” they will be successful – bad “spread” teams are a dime a dozen, especially at the HS level.

I coach on a HS team, and probably see 7 or 8 teams a year that look like they are trying to imitate some of these NCAA programs. The best ones are the ones that have an actual offensive system, with series based off their base plays, who use these to attack the defense depending on how the defense tries to defend against the base concepts. ie, what EVERY good offensive team does.

The worst teams we see are the ones who line up in shotgun and run the plays they saw on sportscenter last night, what we call “grab bag” offense, offensive playcalling with no specific purpose or systematic approach, just running a “spread” for the sake of running a spread, because they saw it on ESPN, and all the talking heads present it as some magical solution to any offensive woes.

See Tony Franklin’s offense under auburn the first half of this season. I know Franklin was the scapegoat, and it probably wasn’t all his fault, wasn’t his system, but if you watched that team you’d see that it wasn’t 100% his offense being run – looked like Tuperville just integrated bits and pieces of it that he liked into what he already run, very basic stuff, no consistency. There’s no offensive system, no approach, no purpose – just because you line up spread out on the field doesnt mean you’re going to tear it up offensively. Just because you install formations and specific plays, shoot, even concepts, doesn’t mean you will suddenly have a dominant offense. You can line up with 4 wides and run concepts like mesh, shallow, 4-verts, y-stick, and screens just like Texas Tech does, doesn’t mean that you can transform your offense overnight into Texas Tech’s offense.

by jtthirtyfour on Nov 27, 2008 2:08 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pro-Style Offense

At this point, I’d rather go with a pro-style offense because it’s easier to pitch to incoming recruits (particularly QB’s). I think a lot of high school blue chips are going to realize that the spread does not translate well in the NFL, and any serious player will want to use his college time preparing for the rigors of the pro game. UCLA will be attractive because CRN, NC, and DW also have ties to the NFL…it would not surprise me if that is one of the main reasons Brehaut committed to UCLA.

Also, pro-style offenses will be able to pound the ball against the teams that employ those smaller, quicker defenses. Athleticism is obviously very important, but sound fundamentals and effort can usually overcome a more athletic team (to a certain degree).

Go Bruins.

by hicalliber on Nov 28, 2008 1:48 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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