PB Unleashed: Arizona State Second Half Thread
by Nestor on Nov 28, 2008 8:15 PM PST
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PrintBruins are hanging in on the road down by a score of 6-14.
The defense has been DOMINATING. At the end of first half, Bruin defense has held to 61 total yards and 0 rushing yards. They simply have been outstanding with strong pressure up front, stuffing the run game and disrupting Carpenter. The coverage from secondary has been right which even includes solid tackling and coverage (knock on wood from Norris).
Now it's up to the Bruin offense to focus, get it together, and come through with some smart football in the second half. Here is to our offense getting into the endzone:
Photo Credit: Mark Harrison/The Seattle Times
Here is to the OL hanging in there allowing Craft some time to make some plays. And here is to Craft staying composed.
We are still in this.
GO BRUINS.
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watching Craft
actually makes me feel bad. I like the kid so much, and his toughness is incredible. He’s given so much to this team this year.
Yet I just scream inside every time he makes another bonehead play. If he wasn’t such a warrior it would be so much easier to criticize him. I just really hope he can somehow lead a comeback tonight and an SC upset next week. KC deserves a Cinderella ending
I agree in part
It’s really hard to draw a line between “bonehead plays” and busted plays forced by the D. The alternative to some of these boneheads is to take a sack. He’s trying hard to make something happen.
The alternative may really be to be sacked a couple of times each series. Safe, but can’t win that way.
sjh
yeah
a lot of it is the O-line. but sometimes KC needs to know when to throw the ball away and when to eat it for a sack. It seems like he always does the opposite of what he needs to do…..
by bucknellbruin on Nov 28, 2008 8:22 PM PST up reply actions
yep
that play in the endzone was laughable…he has to know he can’t pump fake 3 times while in his own end zone. Especially not with this o-line
by bucknellbruin on Nov 28, 2008 8:24 PM PST up reply actions
maybe some still sleeping
from big meals last night
well
this game might have put some people to sleep…
by bucknellbruin on Nov 28, 2008 8:21 PM PST up reply actions
I've done something that's very difficult
I have kept quiet when I had nothing to say.
This is the internet
you’re supposed to type in ALL CAPS and have opinions about everything, and not back them up with any facts or evidence.
At least, that’s what happens at many places other than BN.
what happened to ASU
this year? thought they would be much better.
the offense
is on pace for it’s highest scoring game of the year. 20 points at the half!
unfortunately, only 6 of the 20 points accounted for have been for our team….
Did Carpenter want
to play for bruins? was he recruited?
He was offered
According to Scout, KD made him an offer, but it doesn’t look like Rudy had any serious interest in us. He never visited Westwood.
His loss.
Anyway, his attitude has a lot to be desired.
We've run 16 times for 50 yards but
one of those was Coleman’s long run.
Take that out and it’s about 15 rushes for 20 yards.
They are worse. 12 rushes 0 yards.
sjh
I Echo what someone said in the first thread
Coleman sees everyone standing around, and thinks the play is over.
The people who can hear should have been moving toward the ball.
sjh
Horse collar
is when you grab inside of the collar and the inside of the shoulder pads, usually on the back of the neck.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 28, 2008 8:31 PM PST up reply actions
Keep up the solid work
I am off to my Taiwanese wedding reception. A nice surprise to catch the game with you all and hopefully the Bruins will pull it out.
Fight x 3
TAYLORRRRRRRRR!
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 28, 2008 8:31 PM PST reply actions
Penalty anyways
It wouldn’t have counted
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 28, 2008 8:32 PM PST reply actions
The story of the season?
Bad execution on what could’ve been a good play — and there was a penalty anyway.
Just saw the replay
of the first ASU touchdown. If that’s a fumble, Oakland should have beaten New England in the snow.
5 penalties for 42 yards
and the 2nd half is just underway. Clean it up guys.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 28, 2008 8:37 PM PST reply actions
ASU is waiting for Norris to make a mistake
they keep on passing to the right
how much better will the line be
next year? this is one of the big questions.
I think markedly better
Maiava and Sheller should be a big boost to our o-line. Baca and Dean have been good this year considering they’re freshman so those 4 give us some decent talent up front. I’m really high on Prince and we have talent at RB and WR. Our linebackers should be good and our secondary will have a lot of talent. It may be a bit inexperienced with 2 freshman possibly starting, but I think it’ll be okay. If Boz can get healthy and we can get decent play on the d-line around Price, we could be a 8 win team.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 28, 2008 8:41 PM PST up reply actions
Oops
I meant to say first year playing. Point is, our OL should be much improved next year. A dominant unit, no, but mediocre, yes.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 28, 2008 8:47 PM PST up reply actions
Norris Having Very Good Game Tonight...
Los Angeles Rams and the UCLA Bruins!!!!!
by Minnesota Bruinfan on Nov 28, 2008 8:40 PM PST reply actions
Yes, but how much worse is it than ASU's?
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 28, 2008 8:47 PM PST up reply actions
Change of luck
Mum is baaaack! It’s time to turn this game around. Good evening, fellow Bruins. I just finished cleaning up the third preparation of leftovers. Enough gobble, gobble for this family. They’re all exclaiming “NO MORE TURKEY!” The Baby Bruin graduate is home. Law school has its pressures but UCLA’s undergrad professors prepared her well.
It’s time to make a big play into the end zone. GO BRUINS! FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!
Alumnus/Parent '08/ Chancellor's Associate
this line is so horrible
I can’t help but wonder how long it will take to rebuild
I don't think too long
Dean and Baca aren’t bad. Maiava should be very good and Sheller can be solid if his rehab continues to go well. I think we can be mediocre on the line next year.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 28, 2008 8:48 PM PST up reply actions
He went off just before half
I forgot to check if he came back out.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 28, 2008 8:50 PM PST up reply actions
it all starts up front
too bad Palcic has nothing to work with
Damn...
Our “D” is playing tought tonite.
Los Angeles Rams and the UCLA Bruins!!!!!
by Minnesota Bruinfan on Nov 28, 2008 8:49 PM PST reply actions
64 total yards
for devils! have to take advantage. what else can defense do?
I just don't see how Walker's name
can be linked to any big programs
DW is going to have to go to a mid-major program
and look to move up with a good showing there.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 28, 2008 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
Craft with a good ball
and Embree holds on. WAY TO GO!
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 28, 2008 8:51 PM PST reply actions
embree
kid catches everything. Embree, Moutra, Johson, Rosario……….the future
Is it the call
or is it Craft’s progression read?
The tackle pulled
and tried to throw a block on a linebacker so I’d go with called play.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 28, 2008 8:56 PM PST up reply actions
Predictable
It’s our “running play”. Requires a good block to spring Austin and we’re not getting them. Plus, as said above, on a short field, they covered it with 2 guys.
That was a series where a team should be able to run it in.
Let Craft roll and run?
sjh
He's quick
but doesn’t have breathtaking speed
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 28, 2008 8:54 PM PST up reply actions
Bubble
I feel like Craft should have called a timeout or switched up the play there…they had 3 wideouts and 3 defenders, you never run bubble if the numbers are even, because then there will always be one unblocked man – it only works if they dont bump out one of the LBs and you have 3 on 2. both WRs made their blocks, the guy over austin just had a free shot at him, there was no chance.
by jtthirtyfour on Nov 28, 2008 8:58 PM PST up reply actions
Putting the "foot" in football
I know UCLA has outgained ASU — but I still somehow feel that we should be down by a lot more.
Yep - I Really Thought We'd Get 7 There For Sure
Los Angeles Rams and the UCLA Bruins!!!!!
by Minnesota Bruinfan on Nov 28, 2008 8:56 PM PST up reply actions
true
if defense can keep dominating, with no more turnovers and dumb penalties. keep kicking field goals I guess.
There we go
At least that one made it to the endzone
by lil eg not cs on Nov 28, 2008 8:57 PM PST up reply actions
I love Ayers
If he can work on his technique, specifically his hand work to shed blocks he’ll be a stud. He struggles some when they run right at him, but it’s a technique issue that can be fixed.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 28, 2008 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
Michael Freaking Norris!!!!!
Los Angeles Rams and the UCLA Bruins!!!!!
by Minnesota Bruinfan on Nov 28, 2008 9:01 PM PST reply actions
surprising
Carpenter is usually so good when he has time.
He underthrew and floated that sucker
What a bad throw.
Thanks Rudy
For underthrowing your wide open man. Way to let Norris, who got beat on coverage, to catch up to make the INT.
We’ll take whatever we can get.
Well there's Baca with the penalty
I guess he is back.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 28, 2008 9:02 PM PST reply actions
I feel bad for Everett
You can tell he’s still not healthy. He had 2 chances at a senior year and couldn’t stay on the field in either.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 28, 2008 9:03 PM PST reply actions
Yup
He’s got the leg to be a NFL kicker, but he needs to get more consistent.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 28, 2008 9:05 PM PST up reply actions
I really like Ayers
he should be really good next year.
With Ayers, Reggie and Boz next year
we’re going to have a lot of speed at the linebacker position.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 28, 2008 9:06 PM PST up reply actions
4 yard hitch
the substitute for running the ball.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 28, 2008 9:11 PM PST reply actions
hard to keep defense honest
when you never run, QB or backs
We need a TD
and let them get another 3 and out, then milk it to win
Argh
He had Austin. Looks like miscommunication.
yes
was waiting for Ketchum in situation like that.
Another penalty, thanks ASU
Craft is getting way more time to throw this drive.
Oh no............
Los Angeles Rams and the UCLA Bruins!!!!!
by Minnesota Bruinfan on Nov 28, 2008 9:20 PM PST reply actions
we suck
that was a pathetic pass…. this is so painful
That wasn't
the big play in the end zone I wanted. GRRRRRRRR!
Alumnus/Parent '08/ Chancellor's Associate
damn it
pick number 18. have to make sure that pass is thrown deep enough. such a good drive.
That's a product of not being able to run.
We get inside the 10 and have to pass into a short field that is easier to D.
sjh
Recipe for disaster
Underthrowing the ball to a 5’10" receiver not in the back of the end zone.
If you’re going to hang the ball up like that, it needs to be in the back of the end zone, where only the WR can bring it in. Just shi*ty.
16 first downs
to 8, 9 more minutes with the ball
After a while
you’d think we’d be use to it, but it hurts just the same every time
he had nothing on that pass
they have to run that in practice. it has to be hammered into his head, throw to the corner.
I'll consider it a success
if he can still stand on his own two feet next year after all the hits he’s taken.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 28, 2008 9:25 PM PST up reply actions
I wanna support Craft
I really do. However, has there ever been a QB in UCLA history ever that has ever been this mistake-laden? I really can’t believe it. He seems to make the worst plays at the worst times. Literally, if he just didn’t make mistakes, then we are winning! The score is really ASU 3, UCLA 0, Kevin Craft 21
I still don't get
why RN doesn’t try another qb at some time… at least for a quarter. It almost seems weird, like a sick dysfunctional relationship between RB an KC
Ughh here we go again
Obviously Forcier isnt ready, therefore there isnt any poing in playing him
by lil eg not cs on Nov 28, 2008 9:26 PM PST up reply actions
Because he watches all our QB's every day in practice
and hasn’t seen one that he thinks would be better.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 28, 2008 9:26 PM PST up reply actions
he looked ok on that drive until that play
nice decisons, good run, nice read on slant play.
I Have To Be Having A Bad Dream, Right?
Los Angeles Rams and the UCLA Bruins!!!!!
by Minnesota Bruinfan on Nov 28, 2008 9:26 PM PST reply actions
When you think about, 4 TDs while our offense is on the field has a nice ring to it
Until you point it out it was by their defense.
OK that one didn't hurt as much
I was still numb from the first one
how can you have any confidence
after that. 20 picks!!
OH MY GOD!!
I gotta hand it to Rick………………….how he can continue to trot out Craft is beyond me. He’s gotta be listening to Norm.
Are you serious?
This is getting comical, in a sad way
You gotta take Craft out
Even if no one else is ready, he can’t go back in after that. That’s just not fair to the kid.
Bring Forcier in
I understand Craft gives us the best chance to win, but I feel bad for the kid. In this kind of game I’d rather see Craft save what little confidence he has left for next week.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 28, 2008 9:30 PM PST reply actions
C force
against trojies? sorry, just wondering what they are going to do.
Notre Dame 32 pt underdogs?
Imagine what our odds would be
Even Forcier is getting hit
Can we keep one of our Qb’s off the turf.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 28, 2008 9:31 PM PST reply actions
doesnt matter who’s back there, the OL is bad either way
by jtthirtyfour on Nov 28, 2008 9:32 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry
but I would question anyone that would keep him in. Sorry, but time to RIDE PINE!
I didn't realize
that is the same Mike Nixon as dodger catcher.
101 yards
and they are winning big. just can’t grasp that
Their best chance
is to punt it away and let the defense take over. They should probably kick on 1st down.
Not when he first took the job, Olson was healthy until spring ball
by jtthirtyfour on Nov 28, 2008 9:34 PM PST up reply actions
This sounds odd in a game that the other team scores 31
but GREAT JOB DEFENSE. They played a hell of a game.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Nov 28, 2008 9:34 PM PST reply actions
Defense will keep us in the Condom game
Just hope their offense doesn’t have a big scoring night
Banned
For risk of being banned from this site, I will be negative. This is the worst team I have seen in my 38 years of being a fan. I believe Rick will fix it. It will take longer than I had imagined. Karl really hurt the program badly. This is ugly.
Is our OL going to be any better next yr? I recall reading they buffed up for this season
but uh… that hasn’t quite worked out. Granted there are lots of injuries, but my question stands
Not to beat a dead horse..............
but all of this is Karl’s fault. He left us in a really crappy position and even the “dreamteam” of Rick, Norm, and DeWayne cannot get them out of it. Seriously, Craft just isn’t ready but is giving us all he has. It isn’t his fault that he doesn’t have that much to give, that he is severely limited. The defense has been stout, the recievers have been pretty good. You can’t judget the RB’s……………no room to run. When, and if, we get the OL and QB position fixed, which should be next year with a year of experience and some new blood, we’ll be fine. The score doesn’t indicate it, but we aren’t that far away. Fix the OL, and upgrade at QB, and we are in the mix. Hell, we’d be winning this game hands-down if we had an adequate signal-caller. Just my 2cents.
shoot, we might even be winning right now if not for a couple of lucky bounces of tipped passes, and that stupid fumble return play.
by jtthirtyfour on Nov 28, 2008 9:38 PM PST up reply actions
Dude, I would agree with you about Craft
My question has been for quite some time: This season is garbage, isn’t it time to try something else? I think someone else needs to start the condom game at QB.
Who is the pigheaded one that keeps him in and what is the reasoning behind it. If there is some good reason to keep him in other than he is the best we have, i really do not think that holds up. It is time to try C-Force or someone else and see how they do in a real game because what they do on the practice field is something entirely different.
by Bruins102NCAA on Nov 28, 2008 9:41 PM PST up reply actions
The Thing That Gets Me....
Is that ASU really isn’t that much better than we are. They’ve just managed to play mistake-free football tonight. Our defense has been solid all night.
Los Angeles Rams and the UCLA Bruins!!!!!
by Minnesota Bruinfan on Nov 28, 2008 9:40 PM PST reply actions
In Craft's Defense
boxers get knocked out after they’ve had their bodies worked over enough to makethem weak and dingy.
Craft takes a beating. Of course he slows down, his arms get weak, and his judgment gets a bit clouded.
This isn’t a team loss because the D has played very well.
But, it is an O team loss.
I don’t know that any QB would win with this O line.
And, in the O line’s defense, they are playing to their ability.
This is not our year.
sjh
The worst thing
I think is losing Cowan. That was tough because I think we would have been better this year.
Cowan would have been running for his life all year
and probably would have been hurt again.
The amazing thing about KC’s year is that he’s been able to survive. Maybe that’s why CRN called this the “survival bowl”.
sjh
Imagine
how bad our offense would be if karl dorrell was still head coach and we still had norvell as offensive coordinator and whats his face at line coach.
I'm visiting a Trojan fan right now
wonderful………..
Oh man
4 defensive TD’s … unbelievable.
I can’t believe no one else on campus is a better passer than this Kevin Craft. 4 pick 6’s?? really??? I laughed my ass off on that last one along with the rest of you. I’m thinking C-Force should have been in in the 2nd half.
WHERE’S BEN OLSON???
I have to watch next week
but I can only imagine the crap I’ll take.
yep
they were down by 11 I think, scored 17 in a row.
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