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Time To Put This Night Behind Us ...

There is not much to say about tonight's heartbreaker. It's a game we have seen number of times through out this season.

Our defense played their hearts out. They controlled the LOS and dominated the Sun Devils. They along with the special teams did everything they could to put our team in a position to get a win. But they were once again undone by glaring offensive mistakes coming from the QB. It was another brutal night for Kevin Craft and an anemic Bruin offense:

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Photo Credit: AP Photo/Paul Connors (via ESPN)

The final score was 9-34. All four ASU TDs came courtesy of Craft TOs (3 picks and one fumble). Yes, the Bruin defense held ASU to 0 offensive TDs, 20 rushing yards and a total of 121 yards. Here is the box score.

It is difficult to single out a college kid like Kevin Craft who is out there giving everything he can. He was getting beaten and taking a pounding from the Sun Devils all night. He kept getting back up and kept fighting. He wasn't getting any protection from the OL, which also wasn't helping out by generating any kind of running attack. Yet ultimately it was those unexplainable, bad throws leading to defensive scores that once again killed the Bruins tonight.

Not sure how much we should look back at this game which as mentioned above featured a memorable defensive performance including spectacular night from a much maligned Michael Norris.

I think for all of us ... we need to take a deep breath ... gather ourselves ... and summon up all the positive feelings we can generate for this team leading into the biggest week of every Bruin football season.

We are not going to mope around and feel sorry for ourselves this coming week. We will discuss whatever this team needs to do to pull out a victory next Saturday.

No shooting for moral victories and no surrender in Bruin Nation.

BEAT SC.

GO BRUINS.

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Player of the game

Micheal Norris, played his heart out.

by 10amla on Nov 28, 2008 9:58 PM PST reply actions  

Disappointing

The biggest thing with this loss is it wipes out the chance of a few weeks of extra practices in preparation for a bowl game

by lil eg not cs on Nov 28, 2008 9:58 PM PST reply actions  

We are going to be allright

Looking at our schedule, I think we will probably win about 8 games next year with Prince and/or Brehaut.

Then the following year we will take another step and by fourth our program should be back where it is supposed to be following the slow destruction under Karl Dorrell.

by Nestor on Nov 28, 2008 10:02 PM PST up reply actions  

definately

the best part about tonight is it shows the amazing potential our D could have next year. You see all the guys making plays tonight (other than Norris)? Ayers, Sloan, Jones, Verner, Price, Carter, Moore, etc. The list goes on. We lose 3 guys from this D next year, 2 of which had disappointing seasons in Lockett and Norris. I can’t wait.

And as Nestor said, the offense can only improve. Prince has gotten some rave reviews on the scout team, and the O line should be better with the return of Sheller and the addition of Maiava. This is a tough night, but we’ll be back.

Go Bruins

by bucknellbruin on Nov 28, 2008 10:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I mean

Of course we’ll be alright. It would have been nice to have those extra few practices though

by lil eg not cs on Nov 28, 2008 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

FWIW

Our 20 game winning streak came off a season during which we didn’t make it to a bowl game.

Also our Rose Bowl season in 1993-94 also followed a bowl less 92-93.

Just sayin. ;-)

by Nestor on Nov 28, 2008 10:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Both true, however . . .

the disappointing part of the season is the lack of offensive progress. Craft is still making the same kind of mistakes (no look-offs, slow releases, forcing throws into coverage) that had Skippy screaming at him back in the first half against the vols. The OL has simply not progressed at all – sure, some of that is due to injuries and shuffling. It will be great to get the JUCOs in here – hopefully augmented by a couple more big Freshman OL ers, too. If you’re right and Brehaut or Prince or someone else is likely to take over next season for Craft, then here’s one more historical pitch – Norman Dow, John Barnes, Pat Cowan (took over late in 06) and Chris Forcier. Sorry Kevin, you seem like a decent guy and all, but your stats make Paus look like Aikman.

The Mad Bruin

by lostnacfgop on Nov 29, 2008 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Chief

I agree that a bowl game would definitely help our program by giving us those much needed extra practices for our young guys ;-D

by turs12 on Nov 29, 2008 6:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Amazing

Said it before but I am absolutely amazed on how far into the ground KD ran this program.
And I agree. We are looking at three to four years before this ship rights itself.

Sad thing is, non-participation in a bowl game means no infusion of bowl proceeds. And in a period where Sacramento is cutting funding, with schools scratchin’ and clawin’ for every precious dollar, even a small infusion from a small bowl would be welcome.

But again, what in hell were we thinking in hiring KD in the first place (and then like a bunch of buffoons, extending his contract the year before he was fired)? I don’t see many schools standing in line for KD’s services….not unlike that other horrible hire in Steve L.

by OldSage on Nov 28, 2008 10:42 PM PST up reply actions  

problem is

a lot of the lower tier bowl games actually cost a school money. The bowls don’t pay for travel, lodging, etc, so that all comes out of the school’s pocket. in 2001 we had an invitation to a bowl (i think the vegas) and turned it down because it would’ve cost us financially

by bucknellbruin on Nov 28, 2008 10:45 PM PST up reply actions  

We would get money if 2 Pac-10 teams make the BCS

Though the recruiting boost from beating USC would be a lot more profitable.

by SuperBruinMan on Nov 28, 2008 11:01 PM PST up reply actions  

you know whats worse...

just think if KD didnt get rid of kerr and we had him the last couple of years.

by beeru on Nov 29, 2008 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

and the entire defense

they played so well and came up with big plays

by Bruins095 on Nov 28, 2008 9:58 PM PST reply actions  

I'm struggling to find anything positive on the offensive side of the ball

The defense played great again (I guess for eight straight quarters at least.) But the offense is as bad as anything I have seen in my many decades of watching Bruin football. What are our coaches going to do? Nothing works. We get a wide open guy on a long pass and Kraft throws a perfect ball which gets dropped. Of course, every perfect ball he throws to the other side gets caught and returned for a TD.

So we have no chance at all next week against justsc. As I recall, that is what was said when we lost all our quarterbacks and were down to some fifth year senior who was a former tight end for some Oregon school — what was his name again? Oh, yeah. John Barnes. No one could possibly beat justsc with a guy named John Barnes at QB.

by Fox 71 on Nov 28, 2008 10:06 PM PST reply actions  

at least

that long TD would’ve gotten called back anyway. there was a false start before the snap….

by bucknellbruin on Nov 28, 2008 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Kraft

Yes, he is a warrior. Yes, he has no O-line and running game. HOWEVER, in his 11th game as a starter he has (1) shown no ability to check off his primary receiver and (2) continues to force balls into coverage. Both of these inadequacies lost the game tonite. D-backs are sitting back, reading his eyes which are locked in to the primary receiver. It is easy pickings and has been all year. The pick in the endzone wasn’t so much a result of either of the aforementioned problems… just a terrible pass at a pivotal point in the game.

I implicitly trust the coaching staff and I shudder to thing KC is the best of the lot.

God help us next week.

by 78Bruin on Nov 28, 2008 10:11 PM PST reply actions  

I'm sorry

But Craft bears some of the blame—as much as any college kid can rightfully bear.

Yes the O-line sucks, but I really didn’t see his protection breaking-down too badly in the second half. Sure, they can’t run-block for shit, but hey, let them get one year, older, smarter, quicker, better, and they will be alright. Craft on the other hand throws into coverage, makes lame throws, and has the uncanny ability to string bouts of passing efficiency and brilliance with drive-ending mistakes. He could get better too but letting him know “he’s the guy” is not working this season.

It’s not Craft’s fault completely. I am very disappointed with whatever force is keeping him in. He needs to be benched for a game(s) and then re-inserted at some later date to see if the benching clears his head. As it stands now, he starts every game and stinks it up bad enough so that when he is replaced, there is nothing anyone can do. If C-force ran the offense this entire game, I doubt the defense would have scored four times.

Our defense has a shot against SUC’s offense. Our offense has NO CHANCE IN HELL against their defense. You want any sort of chance, we need to play TURNOVER free football.

by Bruins102NCAA on Nov 28, 2008 10:32 PM PST reply actions  

Amen to turnover free football

The game last night proved that punting really is winning…lol

by bornagainbruin on Nov 29, 2008 6:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Another game where we're close until late

17-9 at the start of the 4th – that’s one possession.

by SuperBruinMan on Nov 28, 2008 10:40 PM PST reply actions  

Yep

If we could have punched it in down near their end zone, and gotten the 2 point conversion, tie game.

Instead, INTs galore and the game becomes a blowout.

Bottom line: Defense played great, O-Line stunk, Craft stunk. There it is.

by Barnes2JJ on Nov 29, 2008 8:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Having not watched the game, can someone explain

How were all three interceptions returned for TD’s?

by SuperBruinMan on Nov 28, 2008 11:02 PM PST reply actions  

It was 4.

Each time he would loft a pass to someone either in full stride going the other way in a maroon jersey or loft a pass horizontally to the flat where there was no one to cover if it was picked. The result was the same all FOUR TIMES, a pick 6!!!

This is such a rough season. However, it’s nothing compared to CTS’ first two or last one.

I honestly think Chow and Neuheisel should scour the intramural fields for a better QB. I mean really, NO ONE IN WESTWOOD IS A BETTER PASSER? 4 pick 6’s?? what, 13 INT’s to 0 TDs of late???

by Seanny Rotten on Nov 28, 2008 11:11 PM PST up reply actions  

One of those

was actually a fumble on a pass attempt returned for a TD. The entire O stopped playing because they thought it was an incomplete pass, except the whistle never blew.

by Give me a B... on Nov 28, 2008 11:40 PM PST up reply actions  

and actually ...

both the radio and ESPN guys said UCLA got hosed on that call.

But still, KC was responsible for 4 defensive TD’s. Wow.

by Seanny Rotten on Nov 28, 2008 11:54 PM PST up reply actions  

um,

actually, the call was correct. the whistle never blew, even on the espn replay. it was unfortunate, but we did not “get hosed.”

i watched the game with many of my husky friends up here in the northwest… and they know pain more than anyone… but i think even they felt pretty solace when watching the ineptitude of our offense. and i know the patchwork O-line bears responsibiilty, but obviously craft just continues to kill us. one of my buddies, trying to lift my spirits, said "shit, if he doesn’t throw a pic, you guys win 9-6.
2 truths as a result of this one…

i think what was clear is our defense was impressive. we shut down an offense full of fifth year seniors and we did it in style. i think it’s a testament to the job walker has done. if he’s got even a subpar offense (instead of an utterly disgraceful one), no telling how good they would have been this year. there are those up here that are seriously including his name in the UW opening… even espn recognized repeatedly tonight that he is ready and deserves a head coaching gig… so does he come back? i hope so… you can tell the guys love playing for him on the d-side of the ball.

and second, if ND is a 32 point underdog vs ‘SC, will we be three digit underdogs? i’m a fan, but i’m also not delusional… that one is gonna be ugly.

by seattlebruin17 on Nov 29, 2008 12:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Just two points to add

(1) Lack of running game really hurt: 2 first and goals at the 6 yard line – settled for field goal and then the 100 yard interception return. Most teams would have run for a score both times, lack of running game teased us to pass on 1st down.
(2) we have an incredible receiver corps – Embree, Everett and Moya were solid again.

by Vanman7475 on Nov 28, 2008 11:11 PM PST reply actions  

Dear Lord

Craft cannot play anymore. He’s just a terrible, terrible quarterback. I mean, wow, he might be the worst Division One quarterback I’ve ever seen.

The line is bad, and the running game is non-existent…We know this. But the kid has a bad arm, no mobility, and a terrible decision making process.

He’s terrible. Beyond Ryan Fien terrible.Beyond all terribleness I’ve ever seen.

At least Forcier has the good sense to be terrified and run around a little bit.

Enough of Neuheisel berating the kid on the sideline. Just banish him to the scout team where he OBVIOUSLY belongs. The kid didn’t sign up to be the starting QB.

Enough. Enough of this. Play anybody…Play my shoe at QB. No more Craft.

by The Return of Sweetbreads Bailey on Nov 29, 2008 2:13 AM PST reply actions  

Worse than Bret Johnson

BRET. JOHNSON.

Worse. Inferior. Less talented. Not as good. As Bret Johnson.

by The Return of Sweetbreads Bailey on Nov 29, 2008 2:25 AM PST up reply actions  

lol

Where have you been man?

by Nestor on Nov 29, 2008 4:38 AM PST up reply actions  

perhaps, but . . .

even MSU’s favorite pine-rider managed a 10-10 tie with $UC – in a season which bears more than a passing resemblance to this one (1989 – the year after Aikman and most of the defense graduated).

I look for this year’s “D” to keep things close for awhile next Saturday, but sheesh, not if the trOJans’ best offensive weapon is wearing that powder blue Number 3 jersey.

The Mad Bruin

by lostnacfgop on Nov 29, 2008 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't know about you guys..

but I thought he was done for the night after he hurt his shoulder last night.

I was just hoping Forcier can hang in there if Craft didnt come back, otherwise we’d have Rasshan next week.

by drebruin on Nov 29, 2008 9:16 AM PST reply actions  

I can't fathom any justifiable reason

why KC should start next week. With KC we’ll get at least 2-3 ints and the points that come with it. I’s like we spot the opposition freebie points just to make it interesting. With Forcier we just don’t know. I’d rather go with we just don’t know. At least it will be an unknown to SUC as well. We do know Forcier will bring mobility to the position, a talent PC exploited in 13-9.

by brewinz on Nov 29, 2008 1:17 PM PST reply actions  

Scary thought

Our offense playing U$C’s defense.

by turs12 on Nov 29, 2008 6:44 PM PST reply actions  

Their D is good but

How many good QBs have they faced this year? Even decent ones? The Pac 10 is full of horrible ones and Ohio State didn’t play Pryor much.

by Free the 16 on Dec 2, 2008 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

How Bad is KC?

I don’t know. I remember some excellent drives and some really bad throws. I remember a lot of sacks, drops, bad routes, and an amazing amount of physical courage. But I do believe that if Neuheisel and Chow thought someone else could do consistently better under the same conditions, that somebody would be out there. And he’d be taking the same beating and producing about the same results. It’s a team thing, people. A TEAM thing. I’ll be there next Saturday in my season seats, and all around me will be those unspeakable USC fans, in seats that ought to be occupied by Bruin fans. And that is the one and only thing that I’ll piss and moan about, NOT Kevin Craft, let me assure you. Go Bruins, dammit! Win or lose.

by ReineSeite on Nov 29, 2008 10:33 PM PST reply actions  

Pick 6

Does anybody know how many Pick-6s K-Craft has thrown this year. He has to have the NCAA Div. 1 record. For whatever reason Norm and Rick continue to keep him in the starter position. This week is different because it’s SC and we have to have C-Force or Osaar Rasshan running around to distract their defense. Enough of the experimenting with Crafty. Even Big Ben in a cameo appearance would be better.

by bruin75 on Nov 30, 2008 8:56 PM PST reply actions  

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