PB Unleashed: Oregon State Open Thread
Oregon St. Beavers at UCLA Bruins, Nov 8, 2008 3:07 PM PST
We have yapped enough for two long weeks. Time for our game to get started.
Kevin Craft and his team-mates needs to start what is essentially the start of the second half of this season by picking up right where they left off in their last drive at the Rose Bowl:

Photo Credit: telemachus
The kickoff time is scheduled for around 3:00 pm PST on FSN Prime Ticket. As always you can click on the links below under "Related Item" for updated game stats and track the game via UCLA's official site and WWL's game page.
Let’s hope the boys in blue and the Rose Bowl crowd have filled up their passion buckets. Everyone will need to pitch in for the Bruins to pull of an upset.
Fire away.
GO BRUINS.
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Chris Horton!!!
“The Predator” in the pre game show. Hope his presence fires up the defense even more.
Good showing by the D so far
Except for that one play.
In other news, Iowa is about to kick a potential game-winning field goal against Penn State.
Update Plz!
Game tracker seems to of died, anything more in our game?
no
i’m in college so i don’t get that many channels…just the standard ones and some random pennsylvania local stuff. no FSN or FCS
by bucknellbruin on Nov 8, 2008 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
yep
and for all us SC haters as ANOTHER team ahead of them loses….plus bama’s on the ropes
by bucknellbruin on Nov 8, 2008 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
Great stop by defense on 3rd down again
Defense except for two Norris miscues is playing solid early on. Although I’d like to see a little more pass rush out of our front 7.
i love that kid
and reports are that EJ Woods is tearing it up on the scout team
by bucknellbruin on Nov 8, 2008 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot
Moore recovers a fumble!!! Huge hit on Rodgers.
We must be getting FSN's worst production crew
Since this is only a local, not national game.
You’re right … Versus didn’t cut out like this.
In other news -- Bama field goal blocked
That kick would’ve won the game for them. Now they’re going to OT.
but how is that his primary option
if it’s a 1 yard route?
i think he’s just panicking and throwing to the first open guy he sees
What I meant
He just goes with who he sees first. He is just looking at the short out routes … he is not looking for anything underneath.
try and pull an oregon on them lol
we saw how important that was
but let’s not let them get a first down here…
Solid play by our defense
Except for couple of miscues by Norris this defense has really played well. Moore is of course the story. But we are doing a pretty good job of tackling. If we can get some more pressure up front, we will be good.
Now Craft needs to step up. He was off to a decent start but really bumbled in last few series.
I just connected to a computer feed
just in time to watch them get a TD and watch us go three and out, and look particularly inept in doing so. I think Coach Neuheisel is going to have to go in at QB.
norris got absolutely shredded
he was about 8 yards behind the play
by bucknellbruin on Nov 8, 2008 5:06 PM PST up reply actions
unbelievable
that’s what happens when a qb gets time to throw…and actually goes downfield. This is turning into a clinic
we had to punt from the 1 and stroughter ran it back to the 20
two plays later Canfield hit Stroughter in the endzone…
he had ALL DAY to throw. he held on to the ball for at least 5-6 seconds
by bucknellbruin on Nov 8, 2008 5:20 PM PST up reply actions
But, I Mean
they literally were still standing around…the play sort of happened around them.
Love My Bruins
yep
Craft just isn’t cutting it
he’s ok against bad defenses, but he’s yet to play well against a good or even average D
by bucknellbruin on Nov 8, 2008 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
yeah.....
that play a few before the pick he had time and a deep drop……then proceded to underthrow a wide open guy 10 yards down field
by bucknellbruin on Nov 8, 2008 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
I do too
He is being a warrior but he is also making some basic mistakes and he hasn’t done much to correct it.
he's a great kid
just not a pac 10 QB….
by bucknellbruin on Nov 8, 2008 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
Yep
I am forced to agree. It makes you wonder how bad our other players are when our first string on offense is this bad.
can we please see Forcier?
How do we know he’s not the answer if he doesn’t get in a game? some guys just simply aren’t practice players.
Agreed
We are now out of it in terms of bowl games. I’d like to see Forcier get some serious action next week. Might as well go with our young guys. Also I’d like to see more Coleman than Bell.
well....
we might as well be. I know we can still win out but let’s be serious here. We’re not beating SC this year with this team. Sorry but it’s not gunna happen. SC’s defense is the best in the country. We’ll be fortunate to score.
by bucknellbruin on Nov 8, 2008 5:49 PM PST up reply actions
You are free to concede THAT game
We will not. If you are going to give up on THAT game, don’t be around here for that game week.
hey i'm still gonna be there cheering and hoping
I’m just saying that with the team we have RIGHT now, we have little to no chance. The team that pulled 13-9 was much, much better than these guys, and this SC team is at least as good as that one was.
So what I’m saying is we need to get better to compete with them – why not try Forcier and see if that’s an answer? We just need some playmakers to have a shot, and he potentially is one. With a few guys that can bust a big play, anything can happen in any game. We don’t have any of those guys playing right now. That’s why I’m saying we won’t win with the current team
by bucknellbruin on Nov 8, 2008 5:54 PM PST up reply actions
and why is KC still in?
seriously this is getting kind of annoying. I trust CRN and Chow but c’mon…give the kid a shot in a game to show his stuff
by bucknellbruin on Nov 8, 2008 5:55 PM PST up reply actions
Yes
If we play like we are doing today, we will get beat up. But that doesn’t mean you can project what will happen in that game based on what happened today.
That game is sacred. It’s special. We will talk about it when it gets here. But if you are going to give up on that game tonight, go for it, but don’t bring that mentality on Bruins Nation.
We will think about Washington after this game.
I Concede Nothing
UCLA has, in the past, come out and beat USC “when they shouldn’t have.” As long as we have Bruins on the field, I concede nothing.
Love My Bruins
because i love this team so much
obviously i’m not conceding that game….but we need playmakers. We don’t have them now. we can’t move the ball against SC’s defense consistantly – i don’t think anyone will debate that. We need someone who can break a big play now and then, get 14-17 points on the board that way and then let the D do it’s thing. We don’t have those playmakers on the field. That’s all i’m saying
by bucknellbruin on Nov 8, 2008 5:59 PM PST up reply actions
I don't care about that SC game tonight
We should think about Washington as of this point.
And I agree with you I am getting annoyed with coaches not putting in Forcier.
agreed
let’s just get a W in a game that we should win
by bucknellbruin on Nov 8, 2008 6:03 PM PST up reply actions
There's still good news.
At least we don’t have last year’s alleged coaching staff. We would be looking worse than Washington.
Catharsis
Alright, I need a forum to vent my frustrations. I live in Newport Beach, which is unfortunately a dirty cesspool of Trojan pseudofandom. My cardinal and gold “friends” love to give me a hard time this time of year as I am often subjected to constant text messages reminding me of how bad our Bruins are losing on the gridiron. Of course, once basketball season comes along their collective ego’s tend to become a little less inflated as my pride begins to swell up with a healthy sense of vicarious achievement. However, I’m sick of WAITING for basketball season to come along to feel the blue and gold goodness that should be persistently propagating bruin infused dopamine surges.
I should note before I really begin to vent my frustrations that I am a big fan and believer in CRN and his “dream team” football staff. I have also been impressed with the positive momentum that we have been building on the recruiting trail (although I would love to see us as players in the national recruiting scene – attracting 5 star recruits with regularity). Nonetheless, I tend to find myself questioning (my wife might say screaming) several decisions that this coaching staff makes each week. For starters (pun intended), why on earth is Kevin Craft still starting for this team. He has no future as a quarterback at a D-1 college – so it’s not like we should be grooming him for next year. I also can’t believe that we would be much worse off having Forcier behind center (who may have a future – and is definitely blessed with more God given talent). At least Forcier might infuse some life into this sagging offense (he has the legs and elusiveness to make something out of nothing – whereas Craft generally achieves nothing out of nothing). If we are going to be a below average team – shouldn’t we start thinking about next year and develop our young talent? I like that we have been using some of our athletic young athletes (Ayers, Jones, Moutra, Coleman, Embree, etc) – but I’m not sure why Craft continues to be an anathema to this team. I also wish that Dean would get some time on the offense as it would be a deleterious blow to lose him and any recruiting status that we may have established in the fecund football talent bed that is Texas.
I also have issues with Walker – whose defense seems to play really well for about 75% of games. Perhaps any defense would become increasingly less crisp if it had to be on the field as much as our defense is. Just the same, there seems to be at least a couple defensive series each week where tackling, discipline, positioning, or effort seems to be poor – and it leads to a relatively easy score for the opposition. The great teams do not execute 75% of the time. Could you imagine Howland’s defense being sound for 75% of the game? I think whatever hair he has remaining on his scalp would fall right off.
Additionally, the special teams has not been what I had expected. It seems that the opposing team consistently starts off with better than average field position off of kickoffs. Our punt defense seems slow to get down the field – and our return game is unspectacular to say the least. We knew our offense was going to struggle – but the uninspired efforts we didn’t. I can’t stand watching Kevin Craft (the human momentum killer as he is known in my household) continue to make bad decisions. Could we honestly say that he has shown any improvements over the course of the year?
Alright – I need to run because I have plans to go out. It would be nice to leave with the glow that accompanies a UCLA victory – but I’ll manage nonetheless. Last comment – I am passionate about UCLA sports and I believe that our football team should be in the upper echelon of teams (top 10 – 15) teams annually. I don’t want Jim Harrick level success in football (which was a threat to be a top 25 team each year). I want Howland level success (which is a threat to go to the Final Four each year).

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