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Spaulding Roundup: Walker Watch

Let’s start our week with resetting the table on DeWayne Walker. By now most of you probably know that SDSU has offered its head coach job to Brady Hoke from Ball State, and from the reports it looks like Hoke will accept that offer and make it official some tome today. Interestingly there is a note in the Tribune report that Walker wasn’t very impressive during his interview (emphasis added):

San Diego State has hired Ball State head coach Brady Hoke as its new head football coach, sources close the situation said. An announcement of his hiring could come as soon as today, after Hoke informs his players of his decision this morning.

Hoke, 50, was one of three finalists interviewed last week, along with UCLA defensive coordinator DeWayne Walker and former Texas A&M coach Dennis Franchione. Sources said Walker didn't have the best interview and that Franchione has been notified he is not the choice.

HT to godblesstyus95, who also pointed to the effectiveness of a Pom Pom endorsement for Walker.

So where does Walker go? One option that is still out there is the head coach position at New Mexico State. Per Jill Painter in the Daily News, Walker could still be interested in that dead end job. But seriously why would a promising coach end up at place which couldn’t even interest Ken Norton, Jr. (a LB coach, not a DC) for an interview. So, I think Walker would be better served by ignoring that option.

Also, looming for Walker is opportunity to discuss with Les Miles from LSU re. a DC position with the Tigers (there has been no report I know of that indicates that LSU has extended any kind of “offer”). Our friends at And The Valley Shook, are keeping an eye on Walker and some of them are not all that impressed:

I'm going to ask the question: what's so great about Walker?  Here's the resume:

1998-2000 NE Patriots DB coach
2001 USC DB coach
2002-2003 NY Giants DB coach
2004-2005 WSH Redskins DB coach
2006-2007 UCLA Defensive Co-ordinator

The Patriots weren't very good when he was the coach there.  Neither was the defense.  the 2002 Giants had a good pass defense, and the 2003 Ginats had a terrible one.  Washington's defense during his tenure was decidedly average.  UCLA's program is a mess right now, but I don't really find myself raving about the UCLA defense.  I'm sure he's a good coach, but how did this guy become the second coming?  If we hire him, great.  If we don't, it doesn't look like we missed out on Buddy Ryan. 

I'm not saying this to say Walker is a horrible coach.  He's a good coach.  But there are a lot of coaching candidates out there and LSU doesn't need to hire the name cnadidate generating the most buzz.  i don't care about headlines now, I care about the headlines during the season.  And I don't want to see headlines about LSU's defense getting torched. 

Some thoughts here. While I have a lot of respect for the LSU program and accept the fact that it is ahead of UCLA at this point of time, I would think twice if I were an LSU fan about looking down on a 4-8 UCLA team, which played one of the most difficult schedules in the country with a 3rd string QB, and decimated OL as a “mess.” I wouldn’t be calling another program a “mess,” while dealing with my own, which just one year removed from a BCS championship is hobbling around with a 7-5 record, featuring 4 wins against Appalachian St, North Texas, Tulane and Troy (to which my team almost suffered one of the more humiliating losses in recent college football landscape).  Yeah, if Neuheisel's team played that kind OOC schedule, UCLA would be preparing for a bowl game as well. So not sure, if LSU fans can look down on UCLA football program as a "mess." We are doing just fine.

Also, Walker has built his reputation at UCLA based on the improvements (number wise) his unit showed from the Kerr years in Westwood. There is no question our defensive statistics improved since his arrival in Westwood.  Now I think Walker’s most passionate supporters will concede that he has yet to put together a complete season, since every one of his last three seasons have been marked with inexplicable and humiliating performances such as BYU (08), Oregon (08), Utah (07), WSU (07), Arizona (07), Washington (06), Oregon (06), WSU (06), and Cal (06). But the argument is once Walker has all his players in place and boosted by a good offense, he will be able to put together that complete season. Based on the improvements we saw in our defense during the closing weeks (again to be fair those defensive performances came against teams like Washington and ASU) there are reasons to be hopeful for a solid defensive unit in 09-10 season. If Walker sticks around and continue to develop our young players and we get a credible offensive unit next year thanks to a better OL in next two years, he could put together that dominating Buddy Ryanesque defensive unit that will vault him to top of everyone’s wish list.

Anyway, right now its not clear whether LSU is seriously interested in Walker. I haven’t heard of any reported interviews. The data points to keep in mind is Walker’s salary. Conventional wisdom is that LSU would be able to offer Walker ridiculous amount of $ outspending UCLA. Yet, if you look at the fact UCLA is paying Walker at a rate of $375,000 per year, which is not too far off from $400,000 LSU was paying Bo Pellini, their former celebrated DC who ended up taking the head coach position at Nebraska.

So, not sure how much of move up it is for Walker to move over to a program for a moderate bump, which wouldn’t be proportionate to the extra ordinary increase in pressure and expectations from an SEC fanbase.

As I said few days ago, both Walker and UCLA are in a win-win situation at this point:

The Bruins' coordinator said he will devote the next week to recruiting, then take some time off to rest and think.

"Obviously, I'm still happy at UCLA," he said. "So you can't disregard that."

Yep. Nothing wrong with Walker exploring options (and it does sound like he can use honing up his interviewing skills). If he decides to come back for another year or two and help CRN and Chow complete their rebuilding project at UCLA, he will have much better options than the ones presented to him this off season.

GO BRUINS.

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I'm sorry that Coach Walker didn't get the job...

But at the same time, I’m happy he’ll still be a Bruin next year.

Regarding SDSU: What a trainwreck of a program. I really had high hopes when Chuck Long took over, but the sad reality is that the top collegiate football school south of Orange County now is USD and they have a non-scholarship program!

Back in the day, when my wife and many of my friends went to SDSU, they had a great team. Remember the Marshall Faulk days?

I hope Hoke can turn the program around. I think Franchione probably wanted too much money?

I may work with the Waves, but I'm still a Bruin!

by HoozierDaddy on Dec 15, 2008 8:58 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I can see where the LSU fans are coming from

Nestor, I think you’re right that they need to think about their own season before labeling us a “mess”, but we’ve been down for nearly a decade while they are 1 year removed for a national championship. This year they were mediocre, but they had the same issues we did (freshmen backup 3rd string QB and injuries).

But my point is that to an outside observer, DW’s resume really isn’t that impressive. You guys know I’ve been one of his biggest supporters, but I know that the D’s stats weren’t very good this year. Now we all know a lot of that is because of the short fields, turnovers, etc, but someone just glancing at box scores and final scores wouldn’t think that Walker is doing a very good job.

For example, the ASU and USC games. Without watching the games, most people would just assume it was another awful offensive game (which is true), and a below average defense game; when actually our D played as well as any team in the country had against the opponent. ASU hadn’t been shut down like that in years, and just listen to Petey and Sanchez after the game to understand how much we punished them on D. Holding them to 28 is no small feat; we all know that – and only 7 in the 2nd half.

So as you said Nestor, DW has yet to put together a complete season. This year the D was good for most of the year with a few exceptions (BYU comes to mind), but the stats were still inconsistent in games that they played well (OSU and Cal, for starters). I think he’s much better than the stats, and I think he’ll start to show it once we get an offense. For now he should stay, build up his D and his resume and get some national respect, then go take a BCS job that will open up in the next few years.

Go Bruins

by bucknellbruin on Dec 15, 2008 9:19 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

If Coach Walker is looking for other options, perhaps UCLA should let him go?

I am a huge supporter and fan of Coach Walker. However, the issue with him is that he has been looking to move up and move on during the past 2 years. He is a fantastic coach, but what we need is stability in our coaching staff. What we don’t need is the coaching carousel we had during the Dorell era. Why would a good recruit come to UCLA knowing that the coach who recruited him would not be there? The stability of the coaching staff is crucial for the rebuilding of our program.

by sanji on Dec 15, 2008 9:55 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Because this is CRN's Team

and if DW goes, CRN will find the “Chow” of defenses and we will move on and move up.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Dec 15, 2008 10:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Coach Walker isn't different from just about every other coordinator

Almost every coordinator in football aspires to be a head coach someday. Most likely, it’s that drive that makes them good at what they do.

You worry about the effect on recruits, but what kind of coordinator could you possibly hire if your athletic director had the reputation of firing any coordinator who interviewed for a head coaching gig?

by insomniacslounge on Dec 15, 2008 1:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

With Saban at Bama

LSU will not longer be the dominant team of the SEC west, and will be looking for someone to blame. I would stay clear of that gig until LSU gets realistic expectations.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Dec 15, 2008 11:02 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

LSU on its way down

The “Fire Les Miles” web site will be up in no time, I am sure of it. With Arkansas, Ole Miss, and Alabama on the rebound and Florida dominating LSU will definitely be struggling more. And let’s see what happens with Tennessee and Auburn too.

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Dec 15, 2008 11:39 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Unreal

I think that guy seriously needs a life…

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Dec 15, 2008 1:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

articals?

is that supposed to be a pun of some kind?

by kidro2001 on Dec 15, 2008 5:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Some Walker Thoughts...

1) Moderate Bump? Nestor, even if he gets paid the same as he’s making now, $375,000 goes a heck of a lot farther in Baton Rouge than in Westwood. He would be silly not to jump at that kinda $, assuming that is what is important to him. But I think $ isn’t issue.
2) Ask any objective College Football insider or national writer and they will undoubtedly say that a move from DC at UCLA to the DC at LSU is a move up. As Bucknell pointed out, they are just 1 year removed from a national championship and have been a contender every year for several years now. We haven’t been in the National Championship discussion in over a decade. Say what you want about UCLA on the upswing or LSU on the downturn, based on recent history, LSU is the superior football program and taking the DC position at LSU would not be considered a lateral move for DW.
3) Given his resume he absolutely deserves a shot as a HC somewhere right now. He is far more qualified than Turner Gill was when he got the HC job at Buffalo. He was a positions coach at Nebraska for 6 years (Coached Frazier and then Couch to a Heisman) and them spent about a year with the Packers as a special assistant. Walker has far superior credentials than Gill. The knock on Gill was he couldn’t recruit in the SEC which is why the passed on him at Auburn. Not sure Walker can recruit in the SEC but he is widely considered a great recruiter here in So Cal. If he stays out west, he can go toe-to-toe with all the elite coaches when it comes to sitting in a recruits living room. He has proved it here at UCLA. The reason we wanted him to stay so bad last year was our fear of loosing all the recruits he helped bring to Westwood.

I for one am pulling for him to get a chance to be a HC anywhere. Even at New Mexico State. I am less enthused about a move to LSU as the DC, but I can’t argue it’s not a very good opportunity. Buffalo was as much as a “dead end” as NM, so if given the chance to turn a program around in three years like Gill has done in Buffalo, I say go make it happen DW. Make us proud. Sure I’d selfishly love for him to stay and finish the job started by CRN and Chow, but when opportunity knocks to become a HC at a D I school, he has to take it.

Go Bruins!!!

by Bald Eagle on Dec 15, 2008 2:16 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Good thoughts

1) Sure because COL 375gs is whole heck of lot more in Baton Rouge compared to California. However, if you consider the totality of circumstances, DW would have better job security Kually in Westwood (where folks appreciate what he has done) v. a pressure packed situation in Baton Rouge, where he could very well get kicked to the curb after a 7-8 win season.

2) I didn’t dispute the fact that LSU is a move up from UCLA. I just provided context and made the argument that given LSU’s doll drums and the challenges they will face in Alabama, Ole Miss and some other programs on up and up, their situation is really not all that idea.

3) Again I didn’t make the argument that DW doesn’t deserve a shot. Sure he does … but I am sorry I am just not all that impressed with getting a gig at some place like New Mexico State. Ask Gary Long how it worked out for him at the other New Mexico school and unlike Walker he was an alum of that school.

by Nestor on Dec 15, 2008 5:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for clarifying

Without going all “Streeter” here and start pushing for an Affirmative Action program for college coaches, it just doesn’t smell right when very good candidates of color continue to get passed over for less (or at best equally qualified) white candidates.

While I think Charles Barkely is a bit “McCarthyistic” in his accusations against Auburn, I can’t help wonder whether there is some truth to his claims that Gill was passed over because of the color of his skin..

I think DW is more than a career assistant and hope someone steps up and gives him a chance to prove himself. If he doesn’t produce, be it in New Mexico, LSU or at some DII school, at least he will have had his shot.

by Bald Eagle on Dec 16, 2008 11:39 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This could be an interesting issue to debate

One huge knock on Dorrell IMHO was that he had no prior head coaching experience. It was said—by me and others—that he should have started off coaching at a smaller school, developed his skills and (hopefully) a winning record and reputation, and then he would have been better prepared for a big-time program like UCLA.

Leaving aside the poisonous vortex of SDSU (which, N, you and I both agree is definitely the wrong place), but using this same logic, wouldn’t it make sense for Walker to take a HC job at a school like New Mexico State and make a name for himself by turning around an otherwise crappy program that no one has ever heard of? Otherwise, bigger name schools and programs might not want to take a chance on a guy with little to no head coaching experience.

It’s a rhetorical question. I don’t know the right answer. But I think it’s an interesting question.

by Barnes2JJ on Dec 16, 2008 5:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking the same thing

There are D-2 and D-3 schools whose coaches move up and leave open positions. It seems to me that such a place would be good for a coach with no prior head coaching experience. But it also seems to me that some of those guys stay in place for eons, so maybe there are not that many openings after all.

by Fox 71 on Dec 16, 2008 6:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

agree that it's tough to know the right answer

Look at Al Golden and Turner Gill. Respectively they took over Temple and Buffalo programs that were probably the two worst in the country a few years back, and now Buffalo is the MAC champ and Temple was nearly bowl eligible this year. Both those guys were assumed to be taking on an impossible task. Now they’re both on top of the list every time a big name school needs a coach. Gill should’ve gotten the Auburn job IMO and Golden is said to be the “next in line” when Paterno retires at PSU.

The point is that maybe Walker would be better off at a program like SDSU or NMSU. If he fails, he fails. He’d likely get another gig somewhere because no one expected him to succeed. But if he succeeds and manages to make them even a bowl team, then he’s a hot name in coaching circles.

Still though, what Golden and Gill did could qualify as minor miracles. As much as I like DW, I’m not ready to say he’s that quality of HC yet. As a first time HC i think he should go to a place with more stability. But there are still upsides to jobs like SDSU

by bucknellbruin on Dec 16, 2008 6:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good points

There is always a “but” and the “but” in this case is the upside to SDSU. You used plural, and as I recall, the only upside to San Diego is the weather. That’s a good upside, of course, but it wouldn’t me enough to get me to be coach the Aztecs.

by Fox 71 on Dec 16, 2008 9:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

i guess i was thinking

of the recruiting area as an upside. I’d rather recruit kids to San Diego than almost anywhere else in the country. Not a bad spot to spend 4-5 years.

by bucknellbruin on Dec 17, 2008 7:13 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ouch

The “only” upside to SD is the weather? About 3 million residents might disagree…

Unless you meant SDSU, in which case there might be room for discussion.

by Barnes2JJ on Dec 17, 2008 8:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

DW Didn't Interview Well?

Sorry, that’s hard to buy.

Every time I’ve seen or heard him talk he is articulate and passionate.

You don’t become a strong recruiter without being able to communicate well.

(Compare him to CTS who won his job with an interview [and a new blue suit] — and you’ll see why I can’t buy the reason being given for passing DW over.)

Of course, that comment is unattributed.

SDSU made a mistake in not giving DW the offer. Of course, had they done so, DW would have made a mistake by taking it. He’s better than that.

No, I haven’t been drinking the Kool Aid. Yes, I’m not DW’s biggest fan but I did see improvement toward the end of the season AND I see potential, particularly if he continues to coach along side CRN and Chow.

DW is a Bruin. And, all Bruins deserve to live their dreams. He clearly wants an HC position, now — and I hope he gets one. And, that he has success.

When he gets his HC job, it will be good for us.

Nothing reflects better on a HC than the opportunities that are opened up to his players and assistants.

And, I’m not the slightest bit worried that our program will suffer if DW leaves — I think CRN will bring in an excellent DC and I think CRN is a strong recruiter, too.

DW, follow your dream. Interview anywhere and everywhere you want. That’s your right and you have the full support of almost all of us here.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Dec 15, 2008 3:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

DW will have my support no matter what he does

Just trying to provide some context and sharing some thoughts on what might make his next move a smart one.

by Nestor on Dec 15, 2008 5:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think it's a blessing in disguise that Coach Walker didn't get the SDSU job

They haven’t had a good team since …. Well, I can’t think of a time that they had a good team. The only way that program gets turned around would be if someone like Cheatie Petie takes over, and just blatantly cheats. bu$h and jarrett would have gladly played there if they had been paid the same as they got paid by justsc. There has been talk of no alumni support, but someone is likely to have been interested enough to pay the players enough to keep them happy. I don’t think Coach Walker would countenance that sort of thing, so that would mean a giant blot on his resume.

My advice to Coach Walker: Stay at UCLA until something actually good comes along. Frankly, I think something good will come along for him.

by Fox 71 on Dec 15, 2008 8:50 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

NMSU job interview

I heard that Walker is interviewing for the HC football job at New Mexico State University job this weekend. Apparently it will take place in Phoenix. The other top names are Mike Schultz, the OC from TCU, Curtis Luper a assistant from OK State, Kirby Wilson the running back coach from the Steelers, Ron Prince, the former KState coach, and some inside canidates. This information came from the Albuquerque Journal.

by owlfinder on Dec 18, 2008 11:26 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

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