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Time to switch gear back to Ben Ball. Amidst all the football recruiting excitement, I didn’t have much time to delve into the stats and reports from the LMU game. Thanks to Tele for all the highlights and Tydides for the insta analysis on what sounded like just another typical methodical and efficient win over an overmatched opponent.

Ty was absolutely right that we can’t really take too much out of these games and the most important part of it was the experience our young cubs got in game situations. Tracy Pierson from Bruin Report Online was impressed with what he saw from our Fab-5. From his LMU review (which wasn’t behind a subscription firewall):

It’s interesting to watch, say, when on the court are Holiday, Anderson, Roll or Lee, guys who are superior passers. Against the zone, with a combination of those players in at the same time, UCLA passed the ball well, finding teammates moving without the ball, trying to find the open space. They got a number of very good looks within 5-8 feet, and even though, say, the finisher couldn’t finish the easy look, for the basketball purist that was good basketball. Even though it might not have resulted in a basket, that is better to the basketball purist than the ball dying on the perimeter, without any ball or player movement and then someone hitting a desperation shot with a few seconds left on the shot clock. Because, in the long run, when Morgan or Gordon are better at finishing inside, the half-court possession that creates an easier look from superior passing will be more productive.

And heck, even if it isn’t, the basketball purist in me would rather watch a half-court possession where ball movement cuts up a zone and the shot is missed than poor ball movement and the last-option, three-point attempt is made.

It’s a great sign for the future of UCLA basketball. With some young guys on the roster who pass well, UCLA has the potential in the next few years to be a very good passing team in the half-court.

Sounds like I missed out on a fun night. While games like that might not be fun for casual/bandwagon fans who are always looking for up and down, showtime hoops, I love watching us in these kinds of games that allow freshmen to play a little relaxed without being afraid of getting yanked after first mistake. Per the LA Times report, Coach Howland was intent on giving his freshmen warriors a lot of time in this game no matter what the score was. He had a set plan in terms of minute allocation and he stuck with it:

"I'm not planning on tinkering with anything," he said. "We'll just come out and play hard."

The starters remained in the game for the first six or so minutes, at which point reserves made their way onto the floor. Howland stuck with his bench even as Loyola Marymount stayed within striking range.

Freshmen such as J'mison Morgan and Malcolm Lee got quality time.

"Any time those guys get minutes," senior guard Darren Collison said, "it's going to be good for the program."

Down by 15, Loyola Marymount continued to play hard in the second half, sending UCLA center Alfred Aboya to the bench with a bloodied nose. They also stuck to the zone defense, packing the lane, which accounted for UCLA's shot selection.

Except for MR, Bruins didn’t shoot so well. But I am not all that worried about it. Especially not going to lose sleep over JH and DC going 1-10 from behind the arc. That is not going to happen all the time.

Besides JH the other freshmen looked pretty solid per Tracy:

In his increased minutes, Morgan looked like he has improved defensively. Despite Howland saying he was late on his hedge, he looked far better doing it in this game than anytime this season. There was also one sequence where Bobo got two blocks in a row after staying on his feet and allowing the penetrator to commit. It’s something he didn’t do earlier in the season. He’s still a project in terms of moving his feet and beating his man to the spot in the post, but there seemed to be general defensive improvement from Morgan.

Gordon, in his 14 minutes, was effective, pulling down 8 rebounds and getting opportune putback dunks.

Anderson seems to be settling down more with every game, even though it’s tough to take too much from it since he’s not being defended by superior D-1 talent.

LMU might not have gotten the scouting report that Lee can shoot. Left open he hit 2 of 4 three-point attempts. He also had a very athletic drive to the basket in which he drew the foul. He, also, seems to be settling down and making fewer poor decisions.

Speaking of making fewer poor decisions, at least from the box score, it appears we were very patient on offense as we committed only 9 TOs.

Also we held the Lions to 25 percent shooting:

LMU shot 25 percent (13 of 52) from the field, was 1 for 17 from 3-point range and was outrebounded 49-35.

"We did a pretty good job defensively," Howland said. "You can't argue with the numbers."

Not really considering the numbers are overwhelming in our favor in pretty much all the categories.

Bruins get back in action tomorrow night against Mercer. Per Howland they are going to be working on shooting, as JH and DC were off the mark from the beyond the 3 pt line:

"I didn't like how we shot it from three," Howland said. "We'll come back (today) and not practice, but actually do a bunch of shooting. We're a better shooting team than that. (Guard) Jrue Holiday was 0 for 6. He's a better shooter than 0 for 6 from three."

We will find out how the practice paid off tomorrow night.

GO BRUINS.

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Some reality....

Nestor,

Thanks as always for this great write up.

But lets be frank. Loyola is REALLY BAD. They didn’t have their 3 best players or their head coach and were already a very poor shooting team to begin with. Not to take away from our effort, because we did play fairly well, despite not have a great shooting night from beyond the arc, but Loyola was so severly overmatched in this game it was almost unwatchable at times. If it wasn’t for the chance to see our young guys play some quality minutes, I would have left at halftime.

Our Fab 5 are going to be really good in years to come. The player who is obviously furthest behind the curve is JMM. He is SO SLOW on offensive and out of position much of the time that it was really painful to watch sometimes. He did hedge on some screens at times but was clueless afterwards often unable to recover quickly and find his man again. He never went aggressively to the rack after a shot attempt to get rebounds (like you see from Keefe, AA2 and even Drew Gordon) and only seemed to get rebounds when they dropped in his hands on defense. I kept thinking that some intense summer workouts with other big men will really do this kid some good. He is a pretty good shot blocker with his size and wing span but beyond that he is really a work in progress.

We need games like this on the schedule to gain confidence and stamina and work on schemes in live game situations. But lets get real. Any praise heaped on our Bruins after this game must be tempered with a heavy dose of reality that this was not the Loyola of old with Gathers and Kimble who could drop 100 on you without breaking a sweat. This was a depleted team without a win that would have a tough time beating some elite high school teams. We played well, but lets keep it in perspective.

Go Bruins.

by Bald Eagle on Dec 19, 2008 11:25 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Perspective

Did I write anywhere that beating up LMU showed how we are ready to march into the Final-4?

by Nestor on Dec 19, 2008 11:30 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did this guy read the writeup at all?

I don’t see any grand proclamations that warrant any sort of warning to keep things “in perspective”.

The comments go under the article for a reason…you’re supposed to read the article first.

by Tydides on Dec 19, 2008 11:46 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I mean

This was the first sentence in the second para at the VERY TOP of this post:

Ty was absolutely right that we can’t really take too much out of these games and the most important part of it was the experience our young cubs got in game situations.

How did I lose track of “perspective”? I am not being defensive. Just amused. :)

by Nestor on Dec 19, 2008 11:59 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't get your panties in a twist...

I did read the article and except for the second line of the second paragraph the tone of the piece including the title was, IMHO, a glowing review of our stellar performance. I really didn’t find anything truly “note” worthy from watching the game live, including our numbers, because they were artificially inflated given the talent level and lack of starters available to our opponent. As I stated, we played fairly well. Just not as well as the numbers would indicate.

I thought the post was well written just didn’t focus enough on what I thought was truly relevant. More emphasis should have been placed on what the game really was-a chance for our young guns to gain some valuable game time experience. Not to bask in any great stats we posted.

Just my perspective from a fan who saw the game live.

by Bald Eagle on Dec 19, 2008 3:19 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Exhibit A in how you "can't please everybody"

I mean seriously, this?

I did read the article and except for the second line of the second paragraph the tone of the piece including the title was, IMHO, a glowing review of our stellar performance.

There was the line about how we didn’t shoot well. The line about our plan to get the young guys minutes, and a grand total of two sentences that could be interpreted as obviously complimentary talking about our defensive FG% and our lack of TOs. That’s the extent of N’s commentary. Yes, clearly a “glowing review”.

Perhaps you meant to talk to Tracy Pierson from BRO about “perspective” as false attribution is the only possible way you could have blown this as completely out of proportion as you did.

What I think is that you have your own agenda or narrative that you wish to push and you’re trying to label this writeup as an antithesis to that narrative even if that’s not what the writeup is saying at all.

Still can’t believe you interpreted the above as a “glowing review”. LOL

by Tydides on Dec 19, 2008 4:02 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

PS

Nothing is stopping you from sharing your pearls of wisdom in the fanpost section. It sounds like you have a problem with the tone of how this is covered (even if your interpretation of the message is extremely misguided) and it sounds like you have plenty to say. At least I hope so, because otherwise it sounds like you’re trying to dictate what should be written around here, which suggests an entitlement complex that is not at all welcome around here. If there’s something that you feel absolutely needs covering, then cover it yourself. This is a community driven site. Let’s hear more of what YOU thought was “truly relevant” and less complaining about how what you thought was relevant wasn’t covered.

by Tydides on Dec 19, 2008 4:18 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bald Eagle

You have been around here a while. We appreciate your contributions here on BN. But note if you attack or insult any of the moderators here on BN again you will be gone.

The bottom line is if you think certain perspective is missing from BN, then fire up your takes via the FanPost or FanShots without whining (and lecturing (or insulting) any of the moderators here on BN).

I wrote that post around dawn today … so it is not unreasonable if I missed something here and there. However, I certainly didn’t lose perspective from an expected dismantling of an 0-10 team and I made that very clear I though in the opening grafs of my post.

If you can’t handle that then find another place to hang out and we are not going to miss you. Tydides covered all the salient points above.

Otherwise … stick around and fan.

by Nestor on Dec 19, 2008 4:58 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Another take on "perspective"

This is the kind of game that CHP managed to find a way to lose.

by Fox 71 on Dec 19, 2008 2:12 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Interesting....

You may be right about CHP finding a way to lose a game like this, but LMU was no Northridge or Princeton on Wednesday. I genuinely think even CHP would have managed to come away with a win.

by Bald Eagle on Dec 19, 2008 3:25 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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