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Sunday Ben Ball Wrap Up

Let’s begin the extend Sunday wrapup last night’s action with the latest on Josh Shipp. From the OC Register:

X-rays Friday showed a sprained ulnar collateral ligament in Shipp's left hand. Howland said Shipp was "doubtful" for Tuesday's game against Wyoming.

The news is also encouraging from Dohn’s report in the Daily News:

Howland listed Shipp as doubtful for Tuesday's game against Wyoming, and wasn't sure about Shipp's availability for Dec. 28 against Louisiana Tech.

"The swelling has already gone down dramatically since (Friday) night," Howland said. "We'll see how it heals. It's not broken, so hopefully he'll heal quickly."

At this point JS should take all the time he needs to heal up so that we can have him at 100 percent when we get into Pac-10 action. It’s a huge relief to know he is not going to be out for an extended period of time because his leadership and big game experience is going to be pivotal if we are going to make a run this season.

Obviously the story of the night was MR stepping up in a big way to fill in for JS:

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MR’s great night shouldn’t have been a big surprise. He has been playing well all season shooting at a blistering 57 percent from the 3 point line and also the same percentage over all. Not only that MR is playing well on both ends of the court. Our defense doesn’t lapse at all when he comes into the game and he also happens to be one of the best passers in the team. Lot of folks are saying that MR is finally living up to the hype. I believe that is selling this kid short considering all the injury issues he had to deal with last season. He has emerged in his junior year just like college kids used to emerge in their third and fourth seasons back in the when we didn’t have to deal with "one and done" phenomenon  in this game.

Coach Howland was raving about his swingman following last night’s game:

"Roll is so consistent because he shoots it great every day in practice," Howland said. "He's been our most consistent shooter, along with Darren Collison, and it showed in their play. - (Roll) is a very good passer. He's our best post feeder. And Mike's really improved on defense. He's a much better defender than he was his first two years."

As mentioned above MR’s big night from the peremeter opened things up in the lane for DC and rest of the Ben Ball warriors:

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DC scored a game high 20 points as he attacked the basket with lot more aggressiveness in the second half. DC also locked down Mercer’s best scoring threat:

Collison scored a game-high 20 points and held Mercer's best player, slashing guard James Florence, to nine points on 3-of-11 shooting.

Collison said Howland mentioned to him several times during the week that Florence averaged 25 points in Mercer's victories over Alabama and Auburn and losses to Georgia Tech and Oklahoma State, what Howland calls "BCS Conference-type teams."

"You know he's going to point that out," Collison said. "He's going to point every little detail out that's going to help us, and it did."

AA2 will probably say the same thing about Coach Howland as well. At the start of this season Coach Howland drilled into AA2 that the best way for him to help this year’s team was to stay in the game by playing solid defense, help control the boards, be opportunitistic on the offensive side and most importantly not get into foul trouble. The results early on from this season have been encouraging. AA2 looks more comfortable on the offensive side than we have ever seen him in his last three years. He is also playing under control by not picking up any silly fouls and also attacking the basket with more polished low post moves.

Now those were the positives from last night’s game. With two games left before the start of the conference season there are some questions and concerns that remain around this team.

Minute allocation between ND and JK (and DG):  I have to say I am starting get a little miffed about the amount of mins ND is getting. Last night ND played for about 19 mins. He was only 1 for 7, missing all of his 3 point shots (going 0 for 4). He did outrebound JK 5 to 3 (pulling 3 offensive rebounds and having a clutch put back to close out the half) but I thought our defense noticeably lapsed when he was in the game. Right now I think JK provides lot more upside than ND. I actually think DG has lot more upside than ND with his natural athletic abilities that can be potent on the defensive side.  

If the argument is that ND provides a better 3 pt threat than JK, the numbers don’t back it up. JK (5 for 14 (36%)) is shooting much better from the 3 pt line this season than ND (5 for 30(17%)). JK’s career shooting percentage from the 3 pt line (12 for 38 (32%)) is also much better than what we have seen from ND (15 for 72 (21%)). I think it is reasonable to point out that ND is playing much better than he has in last two seasons. However, I am having a hard time how he continues to log as much time compared to JK and DG. Perhaps Coach Howland has an explanation but right now I am not seeing what he sees in ND.

Slow rotation:  We were seeing this early in the season. Last night our defensive rotation was slow at times resulting in easy buckets in the paint and open looks. Also, it resulted in Mercer Bears getting lot of offensive rebounds. They had 9 (we had 11) were barely outrebounded over all  (24 to 25). I think lot of this have to do with our freshmen like ML still getting used to playing Ben Ball defense. This is something I believe will get better as we go through the season. But it’s the kind of growing pain that might result in unexpected losses down the line.

Lastly, apparently at least Coach Howland was perturbed by a certain "choice" made by MR:

About the only thing Howland could find to criticize about him was his choice in girlfriends: Apparently, he is dating a USC student.

"We're a little concerned about that," the coach said.

Roll, in typical low-key fashion, did not want to raise a fuss. Asked about the young woman, he replied: "No comment."

Oh well … I guess … we can’t expect our kids to be perfect. :-) [j/k ofcourse]

I imagine given his penchant for details, CBH will be all over the concerns mentioned above and other aspects of the game amateurs like yours truly can’t spot while watching on TV. For now it’s a relief to hear JS’s injury isn’t a long term one. Hopefully he gets healed up over the Holidays and is ready to get back early in the conference season. In the meantime, it will be fun to watch this team continue to develop through this non conference season:

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JH and rest of the Ben Ball warriors get back in action against a 9-1 Wyoming team on Tuesday night.

GO BRUINS.

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Re: Keefe's Minutes

Nestor, while I understand your concerns about Drago’s minutes, Keefe played himself out of the game by getting into a little bit of foul trouble (4 total) and if I recall correctly, he was not in for much of the second half because of it. He still managed 20 minutes compared to Drago’s 19, and with Gordon playing well as rebounder (especially on the offensive glass) it’s hard to fault Howland.

 In my opinion, I think Coach really does think Drago brings more offense as shooter (though the stats won’t back that up, and I wouldn’t either). But his passing ability is far superior to Keefe’s, which is something this team desperately needs if that position isn’t going to bring much scoring regardless.

Furthermore, the fact that each player we put on the floor at the 4 essentially has completely different skill sets makes it difficult to find a player that fits well with the rest of the team. Gordon has raw offensive skills. Drago (not looking at his inconsistent shot) has a more fluid game (dribbling, passing, finishing at the basket). While Keefe’s game fits right in between. I think we can agree that Gordon needs to be in when Aboya is out for rebounding purposes. When Aboya is in the minutes should probably be weighted a little more toward Keefe, but Drago needs game time. If Shipp is on the floor, Drago brings natural passing ability that is heavily lacking with DC, JS, AA, and JH on the floor (Holiday being the only guy there that seems to love ball movement). We have to be honest and recognize that our offense quickly becomes guard oriented when we refuse to pass, and more importantly refuse to make those passes quickly and in rhythm. Keefe does not offer much in terms of natural ball movement (he is stiff, telegraphs his passes, and is not a good post feeder). I guess what I’m getting at is that whether or not Keefe has become a more efficient shooter, the offense noticeably lacks crisp ball movement when players like Roll and Drago aren’t in. I’m with you on Drago’s poor shot selection at times, but again, it’s early and I’m sure he is just as miffed as we are about those not going down. Shooters have to shoot out of slumps, and Howland, by conference play, will play the man that is playing best.

This really is a tough choice for Howland, and to be frank, I think he’s performing a balancing act that can’t possibly satisfy all of us as fans, but will (as you often say) better prepare us for the Pac 10 and the Tournament. If Drago’s shot comes around, this team is dramatically better. Thanks for listening, much respect to you and the rest here at BN.

by mdjohns4 on Dec 21, 2008 12:29 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great takes there mdjohn

Certainly gave us lot to think about there. I am going to have to zero in on both JK and ND even closer in next couple of games and observe how they perform when it comes to passing the ball and getting better ball movement going on offense. Perhaps you are right. However, I thought JK played better within the scheme of our offense.

In the end I am more than OK with deferring to Coach Howland. It’s just that in this particular instance I was having a hard time coming up with an explanation. Again you gave us a lot to think about. Keep these takes coming!

by Nestor on Dec 21, 2008 4:45 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think

We’ll see the rotation cut down in the next week and certainly by Pac-10 season

by lil eg not cs on Dec 21, 2008 1:07 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SPTR's no no gender difference

2 bad calls in the last minutes of women’s game.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Dec 21, 2008 1:53 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sidney

would we have a scholarship for renaldo sidney if he decided to come?

by bruinbornandraised on Dec 21, 2008 11:58 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Possibly, but would Howland take him?

As of now, assuming that all eligible players return for the 2009-10 season, all scholarships are taken. If Jrue does declare for the NBA draft at the end of this season, there will be 1 open scholarship.

However, even if Sidney did decide to come, I do not believe that Howland would take him. Putting aside the various issues surrounding his HC career and recruitment, the current scholarship allocation in the program makes Sidney (or anyone else in the fall 09 entering class) highly unlikely, for 2 reasons.

1. The ‘09 entering class is already big-heavy. The 5 players now committed include 2 SF, 2 PF and 1 C. I don’t see a need to bring on another post, particularly a likely 1-and done when Gordon and Morgan will be a year ahead in learning Howland’s defensive schemes (keep in mind how uniquely advanced Love was, and that even he struggled for a while).
2. As currently stands, Howland has precious few open scholarships to use in the upcoming 3 years. As noted above, all scholarships are taken next season (Jrue dependent), Assuming that Jrue declares for the NBA after this season or next, only 2 scholarships are currently open for the 2010 and 2011 entering classes (combined, not each). While it is safe to assume that due to additional NBA departures and/or transfers, some additional scholarships will be freed, it remains true that Howland has very little recruiting room to play with, and I imagine that he will save the scholarships he has remaining for someone in the 2010 class , or more likely for 2011.

by bruinhoo on Dec 22, 2008 12:32 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sidney

I don’t think has a future in our basketball program. I will be shocked if he gets a serious look.

by Nestor on Dec 22, 2008 7:45 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If Sidney does come

I think it’s safe to assume he’d be a one-and-done player. If he does enough to convince Howland to offer a scholarship, he’ll be a huge star as a freshman. But it seems a lot more likely he’ll end up in Europe. It also wouldn’t be surprising if he is already being paid, like Mayo last year.

by SuperBruinMan on Dec 22, 2008 8:44 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sidney

great points guys. thanks for the info.

by bruinbornandraised on Dec 23, 2008 11:38 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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