Tough Loss But We Will Be Back ...
It's never fun to be on the losing side of this game. I don't believe in moral victories in this game and I am not going to start now.
Bruins came out fighting with a fiery defense and an inspiring play by Kahlil Bell, the senior who has been gutting it out through injuries, playing with heart all season long:
Photo Credit: Harry How/Getty Images (via Yahoo)
Yet at the end it was the overwhelming advantage Trojans had with talent at all the skill positions that became the obvious difference in this game. Our guys didn't back down. They gave everything they had. Yet the felt short. Way short. The final score was 7-28. Here is the early box score.
Congratulations to the Trojans on another great season. When it comes to football, they own this conference and this town. At least for now. So they should get all the accolades.
As for us, the coaches need to go back to the recruiting trail and build on the relentless effort the team gave them following the crushing loss in BYU all season long.
Thanks again to Bell, Harwell, Norris and rest of our seniors for everything they gave us this season. Also, thanks to all those Bruins who showed up to support our seniors and rest of their team-mates at the Rose Bowl. You make all of us proud in Bruin Nation.
I will now look forward to what we are going to get out of Coleman, Knox, Dean, Ramirez, Prince, Brehaut, Moore, Hester, Woods, Baca, Verner, Price, Jones, Carter, Ayers and rest of the guys coming back next season.
We have a long way go to become a viable program and I don't think we will get all the answers next year either. It will take time. As we have mentioned numerous times on this blog, it took Howland 2+ years to turn around our dead basketball program. It takes longer to rebuild a football program given the sheer number of scholarship athletes coaches have to recruit and manage. From what I have seen this season, I remain hopeful.
My only complaint from tonight's game was that I wish Neheuisel went for it on 4th down deep in the 4th quarter instead of punting (then again I guess he had to consider the options he he had on offense which weren't many).
Again there will be no celebration of "moral victory" or taking solace in beating the spread. That's garbage. What we can do is to keep track of the recruiting trail next couple months, get excited about spring ball and find out how the QB competition shakes out. I remain optimistic. We will be back. As the ABC announcers said during half time, "buy stock in UCLA."
With that ... post game thread is yours.
GO BRUINS.
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It proves we can do things
when we get more talent.
by trainwreck84 on Dec 6, 2008 5:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
So true
I was on the sidelines pregame, watching both squads warmup. The thing that really stood out was how much bigger (frame-wise) and how much stronger (arms, legs) the Toejies looked. Take away Harwell, Price and Sweizierski (sp?) and it was like comparing a pro team with a high school team.
by bornagainbruin on Dec 7, 2008 6:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
About the punting on 4th down stuff
I think CRN was being relentlessly realistic.
O-line and QB are just not trust worthy enough.
by trainwreck84 on Dec 6, 2008 5:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
You are probably right
But gotta be honest … it bugged me.
by Nestor on Dec 6, 2008 5:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Probably because of Dorrell
But the difference is that our talent level not as good, thanks to KD.
by trainwreck84 on Dec 6, 2008 5:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So
my son Jacob Christopher was born 12-1. We thought he’d be a good luck charm. You can all blame my wife, after UCLA was up 7-0 with momentum she said, “We’re having company over to see the baby. Go shave.” No sooner had I dried my face than had ’SC tied the score … and the rest … yuck.
I’m kidding, I really don’t blame my wife for this loss.
by Seanny Rotten on Dec 6, 2008 5:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks.
My first baby, and both sets of grandparents’ first grandbaby. If you want – don’t reply to this – just use the “recommend” feature – I’ll post pics. We only have about 2000 of them.
Oh and you should all be happy to hear that Jacob Christopher is being born into a 100% UCLA family, my side are all fans and his grandma and uncle are both alumni (class of ’72 (I think) and ’98).
by Seanny Rotten on Dec 7, 2008 3:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
D'OH!
OUR first baby!! MY BETTER HALF & I’S 1st BABY! OUR OUR OUR OUR first baby!
by Seanny Rotten on Dec 7, 2008 3:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Big thanks to Harwell
He is the kind of kid that you want to be the symbol of your program.
by trainwreck84 on Dec 6, 2008 5:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Karl
Enough apologists like Dohn have turned on Dorrell, for wasting red shirt seasons, etc. It is really amazing how bare the cupboard was coming into this season. This will be a slow process.
Petey gets way too much credit. Tyrone Willingham went undefeated in Big Games as Stanford’s coach. This says way more about Holmoe and Gilbertson than it does about Willingham. Similarly, Petey got to coach against Toledo on his way out and against Dorrell. The tide will turn with CRN, and when it does it won’t be pretty for $C.
By the way, although I almost agree with N’s comments, I can’t agree in congratulating $C. Congratulating these thugs (think Malalua’s running helmet to helmet cheap shot) is like congratulating drug dealers for a profitable quarter. They deserve nothing but what the NCAA is too chickens… to give them.
by islandbruin on Dec 6, 2008 5:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
i learned 3 things from this game
1) SC is NOT the best team in the country (which i thought before hand)
2) Mark Sanchez is a whiny bitch
and
3) This team has as much heart as any I’ve seen in a long time.
We’ll be back. sooner rather than later.
GO BRUINS
by bucknellbruin on Dec 6, 2008 5:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Need help!
Not sure what’s more disturbing. The fact that we lost…..again, or the fact that it doesn’t seem to bother me as much as before . . .
by kdout on Dec 6, 2008 5:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
As much as I hate $C,
I suppose tonight’s loss doesn’t bother me as much as it could since the pragmatist in me realized we had only the tiniest of chances to win. Yeah, 13-9 was great, and it would have been awesome to see it repeated, but we just don’t have the offensive players to hang with $C right now, and they’ve got a pretty good D (when they’re not taking cheap shots – Maualuga should have been tossed!). I’m not a sunshine fan – I got my son a UCLA onesie before he was born, and wore my SUC shirt today as I have for every $C football and basketball game since I got it 15 years ago – just a realist. I look forward to when CRN gets us up to the level where we are competing with, then dominating them.
by AZBruin on Dec 6, 2008 9:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Some things have remained remarkably consistent from the CTS era
For example, Kurt Streeter is still retarded.
"The greatest glory in living lies not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Nelson Mandela
by bruinchick on Dec 6, 2008 5:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Conflict of Interest: Announcers Arguing for Big Market Bowl Match Ups
The networks want large market teams in the bowl games they broadcast.
So, we have to sit through their using our game to hype the teams they want.
Clearly they want UT — which has a much larger following in big market Texas than does Texas Tech. And, they don’t want OU because Oklahoma is in Oklahoma.
They even tried to pimp sc because of the Los Angeles market.
The way I see it, if OU wins, it’s OU and Florida — and that’s a fair pairing, but not one the announcers wanted.
They seemed to want UTexas.
But, truly, if OU loses, it makes just as much sense to put Tech in against Florida — making the who beat who argument the announcers were using (Texas beat OU so Texas goes) TT beat Texas so TT goes; but, that would upset the network because TT is in small market Lubbock and does not have a national following.
Why were the announcers such assholes in our game? They hardly talked about us at all? Because, they spent a lot of time trying to convince us that their little favorites, Texas or sc belonged in the game.
Interestingly, the studio announcers were better — they made it clear that sc was not one of the best teams in the nation and should be pleased to be in the Rose Bowl.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Dec 6, 2008 5:37 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Thou Shalt Not Covet Thy Neighbor's Stuff
A point I threw into the thread — I find it great that sc covets our home, the Rose Bowl.
First, they try to move there and get rebuffed. Couldn’t pass the co-op committee’s character test.
So they dress in home uniforms and act as though they live there. Sorry guys, you can dress up like you live here but class shows, and you show none, so you’ll just have to go back to the mausoleum.
BTW — the next time their mascot plants his sword on our field, someone should shove it up his ass. That is unacceptable and boorish behavior for a “guest”.
If this is seen as acceptable behavior, we should borrow a bear from the zoo and let it shit on their field.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Dec 6, 2008 5:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Hear! Hear!
I’ve always hated that sword planting thing they do. Do it at the Colisseum and keep it there.
Did anybody catch the female sideline reporting making a comment about USC getting frustrated because of all the ‘cheapshots’ we where supposedly giving them? this was right around the time Sanchez left the pocket and got drilled. Even their booth announcers said it was a clean shot after reviewing it.
Also, they replayed the Thugaluga cheap shot at Pat Cowan and held that up as stand up football? Biased much?
A coach is someone who can give correction without causing resentment. John Wooden
by MexiBruin on Dec 6, 2008 7:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
gotta say
that i really enjoyed the two home jerseys being worn. DIdn’t really touch on it during the game thread, so i just want to throw it out there. while i definitely like our jersey’s better, the blue/red clash really is great.
by bucknellbruin on Dec 6, 2008 5:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I liked the uniforms but the sinking of their sword in our logo or their chant "this is our home"
Of course no one would ever chant “this is our home” at the mausoleum.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Dec 6, 2008 6:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Let 'em enjoy it while they can..
..sjh. They won’t be able to keep up the mortgage payments and we’ll foreclose on them in the next couple of years.
Besides, OJ will be watching their decline from one of the cell block rec rooms in High Desert State Prison in Nevada.
God, it's great to be a Bruin!
by WHP '68 on Dec 6, 2008 6:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Squatters
Hey, when your home is a shitter, who wouldn’t want to come in and lay claim to one of the finest venues of the world?
And the last time I checked, they essentially lost 2 national titles (2005 to Texas, 2006 to us) recently in their “home”.
It won’t be long before the SUCsters start dreading coming into the Rose Bowl.
by godblesstyus95 on Dec 6, 2008 8:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get the whole riling up the players thing
They did that at least twice. Petey gathered up his boys…jumping up and down in timeouts. Some of our guys tried to get after them but was held back by the coaching staff. I’m sure CRN would remember that..like Meyer when Richt’s boys celebrated at the end zone
by drebruin on Dec 6, 2008 8:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They don't own this town
they have a better football team. Big deal. We are better at everything else…
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Dec 6, 2008 6:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Still pissed at all the socalled bruins who sold their tickets
I had to leave at halftime because my company is making an acquisition, but it totally sucked.
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Dec 6, 2008 6:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Once I have my thoughts on this game ...
I think we need to note Trojan sportsmanship:
Dancing on our midfield logo before the game,
Planting the sword.
And Carroll’s whining about Sanchez getting laid hits. lol
Oh … the word I have for the announcers/sideline “Reporter” and “refs” for this game … HACKTACULAR.
by Nestor on Dec 6, 2008 6:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is a continuing problem -- and it pisses me off too.
I remember the two times we played Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl — they had a home field advantage; there was more red in the crowd than blue and gold.
When I had my season tickets, very good seats — there were always people from the opposing school sitting in our alumni section. Some of the people who owned the tickets did not come to one game. At least, sell them to Bruins.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Dec 6, 2008 7:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
AMEN
I have seats between the student and alumni sections in row 8 and there were toejams all around. I would NEVER sell my seats to those asswipes. Make sure you sell/give to other Bruins if you can’t make it. The better point is MAKE THE GAME even if we are 4-7. Just show up and support your team if you can. I actually had a good time most of the day, other than wanting to shove that sword up the asses of a few trOJans sitting around me.
For example – I actually saw a guy wearing an oj simpson jersey!?!? WHO DOES THAT? How could they actually be proud of that arrogant idiot?
GO BRUINS!!!
by uclafan11 on Dec 6, 2008 10:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My question
is why we even let them do their sword thing at midfield at the Rose Bowl? It’s our home so why do we allow it? Tell them that if they do it, they’re band won’t be allowed. I love having their band there because it adds to the color of the game, but it’s pretty simple to get them to stop. We’re in control for our home games. Take control.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Dec 6, 2008 7:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Look forward to next year
I felt like there were some encouraging developments that transpired throughout this game. Our defense held up relatively well against a bunch of offensive 5 star recruits. Our offensive line provided good pass protection and seems to have gotten slightly better as the year progressed. I also felt as though the players played with great passion and determination (although sometimes their passion led to some unfortunate mistakes – like Ayers late hits and Carter’s penalty on roughing the punter). I was certainly pleased to hear Craig’s endorsement of UCLA at halftime – and I hope that the nation at large was listening (especially if you happen to be a young athlete that can bench press 400 plus pounds or can run a 40 yard dash in around 4 seconds).
Now, there were definitely some areas that need to be addressed in the future – and I was hoping that a few of you could comment on what areas you see as essential in improving our organizational depth and talent.
First, recruiting absolutely needs to reflect the level of success that we are hoping to achieve. We should consistently be pulling in 5 star recruits. In particular, we need better talent at the skill positions (haven’t had a break-out receiver in awhile – and our runners need to be more dynamic and shifty – perhaps last years recruits will help out here).
We also need to find some defensive ends that can hunt down a quarterback like their next meal depends on it (like Bruce Davis, the Ball brothers, etc). How many sacks did we have this year? As good as our Defensive tackles were – the ends were somewhat disappointing.
Clearly the offensive line needs some more talent – but I would expect for the returners to be better next year with more experience under Palcic’s tutelage. Currently we have two (or did we get a JUCO transfer?) offensive line recruits – one which looks like a stud – the other is a middle of the pack lineman.
We also need to address special teams – which I felt like was poorly coached all year long (which was surprisng to me – because Ganss – sp? – seemed promising). Our coverage seemed late and ill conceived – and some of the mistakes today really hurt us today.
Finally, I feel like we should never be out-schemed. While the level of talent on the field may not be able to effectively compete for national titles yet – the talent level on the sidelines and in the sky boxes should be able to compete with anyone in the country. There were times where I felt like this was the case this season – but overall – it was defintely debateable. Could you definitively state that we grew as a team this year? In what ares did we truly progress and what players development was blatantly obvious?
Furthermore, at the end of the game today – how many third downs did we give up for first downs? It seemed like we could not stop SuC from getting first downs when they wanted them. While I did feel as though the officiating was overly tendentious – the coaches should also have been in the players ears about late hits and holding (I swear SuC’s offensive line was consistently getting away with holding). I also think that offensively we were aware of our identity from an early point in the season. Therefore, shouldn’t we have identified a clear plan for getting most out of that talent and helping players progress for next year? I would have liked to see some more creativity with the offensive play calling – even though I will acknowledge that Chow, Neuheisal, etc, are much wiser than me when it comes to doing their jobs – but they should be – they are getting compensated fairly well to do this professionally. If I produced the same outcome as a psychologist that they have on the field – it would be fair to critique my performance.
Finally, watching Carroll shake hands and joke around with the refs all day today really pissed me off. I feel pretty certain that those refs go to bed in SuC pajama’s and have a autographed pictures from Petey on their business desks. However, I would like for CRN to utilize his considerable charisma to work the sidelines so that we can get favorable calls – and put UCLA charm in the minds of other schools and fans.
As a very last note – in order for this program to make a complete turn into national prominence – we need to help out on the grassroots level. There needs to be an investment on all UCLA supporters parts. Our enthusiasm and confidence should be infectious. So when our kids, neighbors, co-workers, strangers, etc – think about where they are going to attend college – they will ineluctably think about going to UCLA because of the profound impact that we imparted upon them. If we can offer that to CRN, his staff, and the players – we will have played an integral role in creating the cultural change and paradigm shift that we have been so desperately calling for.
Let’s quit talking about KD – his era is over and it was a depressing one at that. Now it’s time to be a part of the solution as we inculcate and propagate a collective environment of excellence. Thanks everyone here for sharing in my joy, pain, and renewed hope! Have a great Christmas season (or Hannukah, etc)!
by freudianslip on Dec 6, 2008 7:10 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
quick question here
was Craft ever sacked? i never remember him going down. the pass protection was much better than i anticipated.
by bucknellbruin on Dec 6, 2008 7:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
He was never sacked
It was a combination of improved protection and a game plan designed to get the ball out of his hands quickly. There were a few times that they had chances to get Craft, but he showed good poise and threw it away. With regards to the protection, Bell was fantastic. I probably called his name out 5 or 6 times today for throwing a great block that gave Craft time to throw the ball. Bell was great in every aspect today.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Dec 6, 2008 7:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah i agree about bell
he battled to the end and never quit. he norris and harwell all played well in their final games – congrats to them. norris had a tough start but really stepped up after the first 2 drives or so.
i read some bad news on lockett though; he broke his arm in the 1st half and will have surgery this week. Tough way for him to go out
by bucknellbruin on Dec 6, 2008 7:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Couple of things....
First, I was standing in line for some food at halftime and I heard the lady behind me talking to some girls. Turned out she’s Rahim Moore’s grandma. She was talking about how nice of a kid he is, and how he’s God fearing and all that. All that we heard in the media is true. I told her that I know who he is and he’s gonna make it to the NFL given how he’s playing as a Freshman.
Second, what’s the deal with the Den?? When I went to my seat I saw 2 guys in SC shirts sitting a couple of rows behind. Then around halftime there were 2 girls walking up the steps of section 7. My friend told me they were sisters, one a Bruin and one a Trojan. The crowd started the “Take off that red shirt” chant, and the girls went back down the steps to get out…thats when the crowd tossed the blue pom poms at her, and there were shouting matches. I understand about the whole SC shirt in the student section deal, but that’s low class for me. Meanwhile the 2 SC guys behind me watched the game untouched.
I also heard some “F.. Craft” screams.
And I understand it’s finals week, and I understand SC was the better team, but the student section was emptying at about the start of 4th Q. Heck I missed the first touchdown because I waited for my friend to finish up some work in the campus labs and the parking lot was full.
28 7 was respectable compared to the SC slaughtering all season…even OSU didnt score a touchdown
gotta get back to studying
by drebruin on Dec 6, 2008 8:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I have already heard some criticism by the media
of Neuheisel’s lack of an aggressive game plan. But it seems to me that he had a very sound plan: to use our three main weapons—the defense, the punter and the field-goal kicker, to put our somewhat challenged offense on a short field a number of times. That would have given us a chance to put some points on the board. Unfortunately, over-aggressive plays leading to big penalties on crucial plays doomed that approach. Can’t fault the Bruin effort though, and we made some outstanding defensive plays. They really made a great effort. Hope recruiting is going well. Looking forward to next year. Oh, and let me add that I see another very fine Ben Howland team taking shape. As always, Go Bruins!
by ReineSeite on Dec 6, 2008 9:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The media sounds as smart as usual
With what game plan could our talent beat theirs? Media people are just stupid.
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Dec 6, 2008 9:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Open Letter to Cheatie Petey
First, I think that many Bruins are justified in thinking your home jersey move did not have the rivalry in mind. I think you are like most trOJays when you think that our rivalry isn’t important. It has become clear to me now why you did it and it infuriates me: You did it to express some sort of “this is our house sentiment.” Your players before the game gathered on the UCLA logo and did some sort of circle-jerk about how OUR house is yours. Sorry Petey, you play in South Central with your SCandal prone Seasoned Criminals. Your arrogance is unfathomable.
I got news for you Petey, this ain’t your f**king house. You and your team’s arrogance in suggesting that you “own” Los Angeles is pathetic as well given that your university doesn’t even have “Los Angeles” in its name. We represent Los Angeles because WE ARE THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA, LOS ANGELES. We are academically and athletically superior to your university in every way except for football (this year). How dare you claim anything to the contrary.
Another thing Petey, you have become the whiniest piece of shit in all of college sports. First, you lose to OSU. Then you struggle with other weak Pac-10 schools. Then you think that you should be in the title game. You whine because you haven’t got a shot in hell of making the title game now that OU beat the number 20 team in the country by 41 points. Your arguments are EPIC FAIL Petey. The only way you can get a “NC” is by getting the AP to anoint you again. Not going to happen. So console yourself in winning the Pac-10, I hope it makes you feel like the consolation prize that it is. Don’t feel bad, the consolation prize for you beating us this year is knowing that we had a little part to play in exposing your mediocrity and that you will not get a NC.
Complaining about “late hits” was pretty funny. I enjoyed that “alleged” rapist getting smacked around. It’s a great hit, helmet to helmet or otherwise, when one of your players hits Cowan or Craft, but when we get a little payback, then you cry like a bitch. What’s the matter? You can dish it out but you can’t take it?
Lastly, UCLA will contend again: Everything that rises must surely fall. This is the mode of the universe. You will fall and until you do, I will be there wishing with every once of my being that it happens sooner rather than later. I pray to God that I will be there to see it when it happens and let EVERY trOJay know that I will have a smile on my face.
Yours Truly,
Biggest Penn St. fan.
by Bruins102NCAA on Dec 7, 2008 1:33 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
Who owns the Rose Bowl?
“I got news for you Petey, this ain’t your f**king house.”
..well, to be fair, we don’t own it either. We just beat them to getting a long term lease that allows us to dictate who will play there during our tenancy:
So far, the crosstown rivals have been cooperative. They used to share the Coliseum, and USC received permission from UCLA before it opened negotiations with the Rose Bowl. Those discussions have now touched on specific issues such as locker rooms – the Trojans would take over the locker room visitors now use, and pay for the construction of a third one – as well as signage and stadium color schemes.But, as you will remember, they got aced out of playing there after they tried to move in when the mausoleum was undergoing repairs.UCLA noted in a statement released late Tuesday that it was "willing to review any proposal regarding an additional tenant." It also noted that its current lease, which runs through 2023, protects its position as the primary tenant.
Now that their sh*thouse is falling down, don’t you just know they’re aching for a venue like that?
God, it's great to be a Bruin!
by WHP '68 on Dec 7, 2008 9:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
seriously BN,
we can use and abuse the recommendation feature all we want. I seriously think only about 20 of us know about it, despite Nestor’s constant urging to use it.
by Seanny Rotten on Dec 7, 2008 3:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Let them
They can say it until they’re blue. But the Rose Bowl will always be synonymous to " The Granddaddy of Them All" and Bruin Football. Period
by brewinz on Dec 7, 2008 6:22 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
$c arrogance
Today in the OC Register, someone wrote in this comment and how true it is: “Pete Carroll says that’s just usc being usc. You mean immature, taunting and arrogant? Such a non-class football team! Hopefully they’ll be humbled and humiliated in the Rose Bowl – then their antics can be squashed while Penn State does their own dancing!”
As we all know, $c is not known for its class in anything!!!! Cheatey Petey complaining about whiney Sanchez being hit – look who is calling the kettle black!!!!! sc is known for its cheap shots (Rey M. on Pat Cowan and many others). They are also known as the team scoring the most touchdowns without the ball (and mostly against UCLA). The Refs act like they are Cheatey Petey’s best friends – shaking hands with him before the game and talking to him nicely throughout the game. The sword being put into the center of the UCLA on our field SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN DONE!!!!! You do that on your own field – NOT OURS!!!! I agree with "Biggest Penn St. fan – GO PENN STATE and show $c they are not as great as they perceive themselves to be. $c really does SUC!!!
by Forever a Bruin on Dec 8, 2008 12:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

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