State of the Program
Bumped. GO BRUINS. -N
I'm as excited the day CRN was hired, Walker was staying and Chow was coming on board. I have seen nothing to date to waver my confidence that UCLA will be back with the coaching staff that CRN has assembled. Sidebar...Walker is interviewing for the SD State job but I hope he remains in Westwood to see the rebuiding through.
I saw a comment about the lack of "Creativity" in our offense. I don't see it that way. If you've followed CRN and Chow during their careers, creativity is something they've never lacked. Their decision to go with a vanilla offense was not a CHOICE but a NECESSITY. They recognized that they were working with a patchwork OL, a mistake prone QB, injuries and youth. They believed they were going to have 2 senior QB's with extensive experience leading the offense but were left with a JC transfer that is more comfortable in shotgun rather than under center. They made a strategic decision (no outscheming of our staff happened) to rely on the defense and hope to make some plays at key moments to garner W's. This was evident from Fall practice when CRN kept mentioning that we just wanted to keep the game close entering the 4th quarter.
Secondly, KD did not do our current staff any favors. It is obvious to anyone that we lacked topend playmakers, talent throughout our depth chart and just plain depth in general (ie buring of RS and not RS guys). I love our guys but a lot of them would never have garnered a schoolie under the current staff. Last years class was a good start. CRN is off to a solid start and I hope he can close strong. The talent must also be coupled with experience and physical maturation. Programs like Ole Miss & GTech got new coaches like us but the difference in their situations was that the prior coach left a lot of experienced talent. We're on our way but patience is needed. CRN never used the word "Rebuild" because he didn't want to shortchange the seniors but that is what we are exactly in the midst of. Keep an eye on how long it takes for UDub & Syracuse to rebuild their programs.
I'm including the current verbal commits (*) for this excercise. Hopefully they all ink come signing day.
QB: Craft (RS SR), Rasshan (RS SR), Forcier (RS Soph), Prince (RS FR), Crissman (RS FR) and Brehaut (*)
-I don't know how this competition is going to play out or what the staff is going to do. However, I hope we go young (I think Brehaut, who said he'd enroll early, is the real deal). Let him go through his bumps so we can make a run for the conference title in 2010. Very few RS or True FR make a significant impact. The ones that do have a veteran team surrounding him and yet they still go through their trial by fire. Rasshan and Forcier may not even be a QB come next year. Very big decision for the staff to make.
TB: Ramierz (RS JR), Coleman (Soph), Dean (Soph), Carter (RS Soph), Knox (RS FR), Hilliard (*)
FB: Theriot (RS SR), Moline (SR), Umodu (RS JR), Allmond (*)
-The talent level in this position is Top 25 caliber. Coleman has shown that he is a very capable back and I'm excited to see how he'll develop. Don't listen to the rumors, Dean is staying. Dean is the one that I personally have very high hopes for. I think he'll get his blocking assignments down and I am expecting big things from him next year and beyond. I wish his RS would have been saved though. Carter IMO is still shaking off the effects from his knee injury and I think we'll see the real Raymond next year. Knox has been tearing it up as a scout RB. Ramirez flashed some potential but he along with Hilliard may not be a TB but in the defensive backfield.
-Having 2 senior FB's (both who've proven that they can contribute) will steady the youth at the TB position. Some talk that Allmond may outgrow the position and may end up on the DL.
WR: Ketchum (RS SR), Austin (SR), DJ (RS JR), Embree (Soph), Rosario (Soph), Moutra (Soph), J. Johnson (RS FR), Marvay (*), Toma (*)
TE: Paulson (RS SR), Moya (RS SR), Heater (RS SR), Miller (RS JR), Harkey (Soph)
-The talent at the WR position is solid IMO but I don't see a gamebreaker. I see a lot of possession types but hopefully somebody emerges with the expected development of the OL. I think Austin would be better utilized in the slot a la Stokley/Welker due to his shiftiness. Embree has the best hands I've seen in a long time. Love the size of Rosario who I think will make a jump next season and Moutra. DJ has a lot of talent but for whatever reason, it hasn't clicked for him. Don't know much about Johnson who in the past was possibly going to be moved to defense. Marvay and Toma should RS with the amount of bodies at the position.
-The TE position will be our QB's best friend as all TE's are. A healthy Paulsen coupled with Moya is arguably the top TE duo in the Pac let alone the nation. I think we'll continue to see Moya in the backfield/slot/etc as he is a receiving TE more than a blocker. Think Dallas Clark. Harkey has a lot of potential and is a pro IMO. CRN is actively trying to get a TE (Ertz/Sanders?) because he knows come 2010, we're going to have a serious depth issue because Miller has yet to show anything.
OL: Kia (SR), Ekbatani (RS SR), Dean (RS JR), Savage (RS JR), Tevaga (RS JR), Bennett (RS JR), Sheller (RS JR), Chandler (RS Soph), Harris (RS Soph), Maiava (RS Soph), Baca (Soph), Bradford (RS FR), Johsnon (*JC), Williams (*JC), Hasiak (*), Capella (*)
-I'm not sure if the RS JR OL class was severely overrated or if they didn't develop due to the instability in our coaching staff. Hopefully it is the latter. Well, Palcic will have bodies to figure who can play and mold them into a cohesive unit. They should be a lot stronger with another year under Linn. If Maiava is the real deal, the OL should be much improved as the C is the quarterback of the line. Sheller is on track and I'm eager to see what he can do. Savage has talent and I'm hopeful that it'll click for him next year because we could use a bulldozer of a guard. Coaches raved about Chandler's potential. A year beefing up and learning the position will do him good. Baca would normally have been RS'd but our staff didn't have the luxury. The JC's may not get to Westwood because their rides are contingent upon them qualifying. If Hasiak and Capella are RS'd, I'll take that as a good sign from Palcic that he has the guys he believes will contribute. A lot of "Ifs" but I believe the potential is there and I'm confident in Palcic's abilities.
DT: Ward (RS SR), Siewierski (SR), Price (JR), Keane (RS JR), Warner (*JC)
DE: Bosworth (RS SR), Anyanwu (RS SR), Carter (RS JR), Stokes (RS JR), Edison (RS Soph), Jones (Soph), Holmes (RS FR), Davis (RS FR), Graham (*)
-We've historically have had issues stockpiling the DT position. The West usually doesn't produce many high caliber DT's. We played Carter some at DT but he is overmatched physically. We won't have much depth next season even if Warner's verbal holds. There was some talk of moving Holmes to DT but I'm not sure how viable an option that is. If Price leaves after next season (very possible), it'll be real ugly come 2010. CRN is on this like white on rice and I hope he can get some of the guys we're currently recruiting. Price is the only playmaker at this position so teams will double team him to death without Brigham which is not good.
-Plenty of bodies but no playmaker at all. Bosworth has the motor but he is undersized. I hope Datone is the answer and I'm eager to see how he develops in the offseason. Stokes seems like he can contribute. Chinny is way too skinny to be nothing more than a situational speed rusher. I don't know what we have with Carter or Edison. Holmes was a 4 star but if the staff is thinking about moving him to DT, speed may be an issue. Ian Davis (Bruce's lil bro) intrigues me. He has the frame (needs the lbs though) and is a late comer to football but may be a bit much to expect from a raw player. Graham may have to play but he is also on the light side. CRN again is recruiting this position hard and hopefully we get some gems to sign. Walker's scheme relies on pressure which was non-existent from our DE's this year.
LB: R. Carter (RS SR), Schmitt (RS JR), Ayers (RS Soph), Sloan (RS Soph), Westgate (Soph), D. Carter (RS FR), Larimore (RS FR), Golper (*), Bowens (*)
-Carter is filing paperwork with the NFL for his draft prospectus but I personally think he'll return to Westwood. Ayers got a bit carried away today but the positive I take from it is that he CARES. He played very well as a RS FR and I think he'll be even better next year when his physical talent meshes with the mental aspect of the game. I remember Reggie making this transition a couple of years ago. Hopefully Sloan develops because we'll need him next year. I LOVE Larimore. If you haven't heard, he left a message on CRN's VM that he's "ready to destroy" or something to that effect. Gave me a good chuckle. Westgate/D. Carter/Larimore need to get ready because they'll play and will be the backups. We got a couple of verbals but I along with everyone else is waiting to see if we get Manti.
CB: ATV (SR), Viney (RS Soph), Hester (RS FR), Price (*), Sermons (*), Mascarenas (*)
S: Ware (RS SR), Love (RS Soph), Moore (Soph), Dye (Soph), Woods (RS FR), Franklin (RS FR)
-I think ATV will file paperwork as well although there is no news indicating such at this time. In the end, I believe he'll be back. This is a talented unit but experience is at a premium. ATV is ATV. Moore will be the top S in the Pac and one of the best in the nation IMO very shortly. Ware hasn't done much to date. Love has the physical attributes but injuries have held him back. However, I'm not sure if he'll ever be what he can be IMO. Dye needs to get better because he'll be in the thick of things next year quite possibly at the CB position where he was initially recruited. Hester has potential but putting a FR on an island is always a dicey proposition. Interested to see what Woods & Franklin bring considering the accolades they garnered in HS. I think somebody out of the 3 verbals will have to play because depth at the CB position will likely be an issue. A lot of these guys can be flexed to CB or S. In addition, Ramirez/Hilliard/J. Johnson have all played this position in the past and have been discussed as possibly being switched over. In addition, CRN is still recruiting for these positions.
K: Forbath (RS JR), Rotstein (RS SR)
P: Locke (RS FR)
-Got one of the best kickers in college football in Forbath. Perez will be missed. Locke comes highly regarded but they all struggle initially. Perez struggled when he first took over for Kluwe too. Chris Sailer deserves some props for sending these highly regarded K/P's to UCLA from his academy.
IMO, the program is heading in the right direction and is on schedule. The Tennessee game caused some Bruin fans expectations to rise but here at BN, we all knew how tough a season this was going to be and the true state of our program. With the anticpated improvement throughout the program, I think the offense will no longer be an albatross but will hold their own. If Carter & ATV return, the defense should be solid once again. If we can find some people to rush the passer and the secondary holds, the defense can be more than solid.
Ok....you can all go back to following our Ben Ball Warriors. :)
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Very good analysis
The most frightening issue is that — according to those in the know — Craft is still and will probably be our best option at QB.
by bluegold on Dec 7, 2008 8:25 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well
I can see Craft making a charge and holding on to his job. I think the key really is better OL and spark in our running game. Craft will have the built in advantage going into spring ball with his in game experience of playing under Chow’s system.
by Nestor on Dec 7, 2008 8:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent Post!
If the O line can pass protect and open running holes, with Knox and Dean we have some speed runners. Knox will not get run down from behind. This year, Bell was, perhaps, our best offensive blocker. We need the O line blocking and we need to let our running backs run.
We need a kick-off kicker who can kick deeper than the 13. Even with good coverage, opposing teams often start their drives between their 30 and 40 yard lines. That’s like giving them a first down or two before they get started. Can’t we find anyone who makes them start at the 20 without the risk of a run back?
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by Class of 66 on Dec 7, 2008 9:40 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
If Craft is the guy next year, just go NOW to the system Craft already knows best!
Kevin Craft was what… the JC Player of the year, puttin up stupid numbers
with a spread offense?
Sure, Rick & Norm just came from the NFL where the spread doesn’t work.
But, let’s get real… UCLA plays COLLEGE football. We’re not an NFL team.
Brilliant coaches design schemes that give the available personnell the best chance at winning. C’mon, Bruins. Who among us wasn’t excited at the opening chain of events of yesterday’s game?! I don’t care if we have to run the gun 100% of the time. I don’t care if we have to roll out the OL line RIGHT, or LEFT to cheat, as it were, to compensate for a weak offensive line. I’m committed to WINNING. I’m not committed to how things “should” be done. Just win, baby! Or die trying.
I’d like to see the defense cheat more too, and take more chances.
All I’m asking is that the coaches conform themselves to the kids/talents/skills that are currently available! If a kid is strong enough ATHLETICALLY to have been recruited to UCLA, then the coaching staff OWES it to us to MAXIMIZE what we do have available.
If the rest of the college world talks negatively about us because we have a “system” quarterback… or complains about our “unconventional schemes”… who cares.
I remember being a freshman in Sproul Hall, and admiring the scrapbooks of all 6 or 8 incomming freshman who were on the football team. EVERYBODY was Mr. “It” from whence they came. You’re never gonna convince me that any athlete wearing a Bruin uniform is useless, and good for nothing. (BTW, on that floor was OT 1st Round Draft Pick/ St. Louis and Arizona Cardinal Luis Sharpe… sadly his life consumed with drugs, the sad murder of his daughter, and even now in prison behind his drug dependency)
Oh well, Rick and Norm MUST have something up their sleeves. Guess we’ll find out in September.
My bottom line is if CRAFT ends up the guy, stop trying to make him what he’s not.
UCLA is a college team, aiming for a BCS game. We’re not trying to make it deep into the playoffs and go to the Superbowl. If Pete Carroll runs his team like that, that’s fine.
I just wanna WIN.
by BruinAlum on Dec 7, 2008 9:46 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
K-Craft and Rotstein
I don’t believe K-Craft is our best option for next year just as I don’t believe that we can’t find anyone on the entire UCLA campus or soccer team that can kick off into the end zone. All major colleges have kickers that can put it into the end zone. It’s a damn shame our defense has to defend a short field continually. I admire K-Craft’s courage and was pulling for him to succeed, but it’s evident even when the O-line gives him the protection that he still can’t make the pass. He missed badly yesterday on several passes to open receivers that would have given us first downs and he continued also to throw dangerously into coverage. Since it has been made very clear that C-Force is not an option, CRN and Norm need to consider the Fresh Prince or Brehaut as starters next year. Lastly, I was disappointed to see how restricted our offensive strategy was yesterday against the trojies. There was just no way to score given the conservative play calling. I was hoping they would roll out K-Craft more and see more short passes and screens.
by bruin75 on Dec 7, 2008 12:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Offensive play calling
I can’t believe there are people who are questioning Chow’s playcalling from yesterday. Given what he had Chow’s play calling was creative enough. You can only get so creative with the kind of OL we had this season, a basic fact that was lost on many fans this year.
by Nestor on Dec 7, 2008 2:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Creative play calling?
I thought Chow was pretty creative. While it may not have been creative in the sense that we tried a lot of routes and misdirection, but he was extremely creative in his drops for Craft and his protection schemes to keep KC from being killed. Not only did Craft survive the game and season, but he wasn’t even sacked yesterday. That takes creativity because just lining up and telling our OL to win 1 on 1 matchups would not result in 0 sacks. Chow was extremely creative, just maybe not in the most obvious sense.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Dec 7, 2008 3:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
I also think CRN and Chow rolled the dice with Craft this season. I think their goal from the beginning of the season was to get as much out of Craft as possible while saving the redshirt of Prince. Prince remember was coming of an injury in his senior year in high school.
Now he has one year to get stronger, work through the scout team and learn under Chow. I am still not sure whether he can wrestle the starting job from Craft this spring but I sure hope he gives Craft everything he can handle. Should be an awesome spring and I am looking forward to reading all the eye witness posts for the first time in a long time.
by Nestor on Dec 7, 2008 3:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I've seen Prince quite a few times in practice
and I can’t see Craft holding onto the job in spring. Prince is extremely impressive out there. He has a strongest enough arm to make all the throws, he’s rather accurate and he has surprisingly good feet. He won’t kill you with his feet, but he can buy himself time. He reminds me of Drew Olson in the way he moves around as he is effective rolling out and can pick up 5 or 6 yards if the space is there. Prince also has a great feel for the game. He improvises and makes things up as he goes along when things break down and does a good job of it because has has great instincts.
I saw Prince a couple times in high school and was impressed, but he is clearly a far smarter player now then he was. I think his injury actually benefited him somewhat because for a year he couldn’t play the game, only think it. In an interview a while ago the Crespi head coach talked about how Prince watched more film the year he couldn’t play than in any previous year and was basically an extra coach during games. All that thinking is obvious in his development.
Give Prince a week or 2 of spring practice and he’ll be our starting QB. Come the fall he’s going to struggle some because he will still be a freshman, but he’ll also show you why he has such a bright future. I can’t wait to see him take to the field and I expect him to do so as the starting quarterback from day 1 when we host SDSU.
P.S.- One of the tings I haven’t seen mentioned is if Walker gets the SDSU job, his first game will be a the Rose Bowl against us. If it happens, it would be an interesting subplot.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Dec 7, 2008 3:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Excuse my typos and misspellings
and whatever else I have done today. I’m having one of those days where seemingly everything I say or write comes out wrong.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Dec 7, 2008 3:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I sure hope you are right about Prince
I am dying to see him in action.
As for Walker it should be interesting whether he takes that SDSU gig. Frankly I think if he stays around for 1 or 2 more years and this program gets totally turned around, he will be line for better gigs.
The SDSU job seems like a career killer for promising coaches. It sounds great on paper. Good location with a nice recruiting base of SD schools. However, the program is notorious for not getting any support from its alums, boosters and the administration.
by Nestor on Dec 7, 2008 4:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dohn thinks Prince will win the job
according to him he’s got the strongest and most accurate arm of all the QB’s currently on the roster (so not including Brehaut)
by bucknellbruin on Dec 7, 2008 8:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
SDSU
Having casually followed SDSU football for decades, I have to agree: The SDSU job is poisonous. It’s very strange how a school in a great location and with not the highest of high academic standards cannot seem to field a team on par with, um, You-Name-The-School pretty much anywhere in the country.
It is true that the program gets very little support from the alums, etc., but objectively, there is no reason why SDSU cannot consistently field a competitive team. This year they were beyond wretched.
If I was Walker, I would run from the job. Although DW might be a good HC some day, proving oneself at SDSU might be a very difficult task. But if he takes the job, I wish him all the luck in the world. Perhaps if he turned them into a great defensive team, it would be a start. It would be nice to see a competitve Aztec team once a decade or so.
by Barnes2JJ on Dec 9, 2008 3:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You said it
All the natural recruiting advantages you can ask for, plus absolutely no academic requirements, and they can’t come anywhere close to competing with the likes of Utah, BYU, TCU and the like throughout the years.
by godblesstyus95 on Dec 10, 2008 8:42 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They just don't have the money right now
You need money to pay the coaches, and for recruiting expenses. None of their sports bring in that kind of money, and as stated they have little alumni support. That’s a difficult if not impossible turnaround situation.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.
by tasser10 on Dec 10, 2008 9:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Walker
there was a really interesting article in the LAT about how Walker worked above Kiffen and Sarkesian; and has a better resume then both, yet they both have head jobs at BCS schools and DW can’t get an interview. It’s just sad, and I think it’s best for DW’s career if he lets our offense develop, give himself a chance to field a top 10 D, then get a job at a top mid major school at the very least – maybe somewhere like Utah or Boise State after their coaches bail for BCS jobs.
Either way, it’s been great seeing him turn our D around. The pieces are in place for our D to be successful for quite a few years
here’s the article on DW btw: http://www.latimes.com/sports/college/ucla/la-sp-streeter7-2008dec07,0,4355405.column
by bucknellbruin on Dec 7, 2008 8:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I read it
Honestly I had serious problem with the article. Walker might have done a better job than Sarkasian but its kind of silly for Streeter to make the argument that a school like UDub should have hired Sarkasian over Walker.
First of all I am not sure about Sarkasian. However, in terms of optics, you think an Athletic Director will able to justify to his boosters and alums hiring a DC from a 4-8 program over a an OC who fwiw ran up almost 500 yards over that DC and is coming from a program with a W-L record like SC? I am a UCLA homer but I think that argument is a no brainer.
I can see the argument that how UDub should have gone with some one like Venables from OU over Sarkasian. But right now in terms of optics (and I mean W-L record/production) …for an AD at UDub Sarkasian is a better call than Walker.
Streeter is just pushig a race based agenda without looking at objective stats and more importantly reality.
by Nestor on Dec 7, 2008 8:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you definitely make good points
but i do think it’s bad that DW isn’t even getting a look as a HC. At least he deserved an interview at UW. And i really liked how he mentioned how UT didn’t even LOOK at him after his defense dominated them on opening night.
I think the biggest thing in that was the part about OSU’s DC getting the Toledo job:
“The Toledo job just got filled by Oklahoma State’s defensive coordinator. His team ranked 85th in total defense this year. UCLA entered Saturday 50 positions higher. And Oklahoma State has an offense.”
i think the race card is WAY overused when it comes to HC jobs, but i do think that Walker isn’t getting the respect he deserves when it comes to getting opportunities for a job.
by bucknellbruin on Dec 7, 2008 9:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Walker will get his due
If he helps UCLA turn into a top 10/15 program in 2-3 years.
by Nestor on Dec 7, 2008 9:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
also
I don’t have a problem with the Sarkesian or Kiffen hires. CLearly they have done well in their careers. I just think DW isn’t getting a chance.
by bucknellbruin on Dec 7, 2008 9:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I am unsure about both Sarkesian and Kiffen
I think both UDub and Tenn are taking huge chances. I wouldn’t want any of those two leading UCLA.
by Nestor on Dec 7, 2008 9:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
no question they are taking risks
I just meant that comparing their resumes to Walkers, I don’t feel like Walker got ripped off. Maybe they’re not the best hires, but they’re not necessarily less qualified than DW. For instance, the point you made above (about the OC that just put up 500 yards on the 4-8 DC) is a really good one. I don’t think that shows the talents of the two coaches; but instead the talents of their teams. But it’s a different perspective for an AD; they see that and automatically look towards Sarkesian
by bucknellbruin on Dec 8, 2008 5:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
An additional point
Coach Walker schemes well against pro style offenses. But as has been noted here in the past, he really has a problem with the spread offenses coming into vogue. See our results against BYU, Utah, Oregon, etc.
If I were an AD, I’d have trouble justifying picking DW as a head coach at this time.
Bob O. (Signholder #3)
by TuneMan7 on Dec 8, 2008 6:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the problem with this argument
is that UCLA has recruited to match up against the pro set offenses most of the Pac 10 uses. We had a lengthy thread on the spread offense and why it’s so successful in the college game, and i think we all pretty much agreed that it’s because of the defensive personnel. We don’t have the team speed on defense to shut down the spread. That’s not DW’s fault.
However, I agree that it looks bad on his resume – it’d be difficult to hire someone who hasn’t been successful against today’s trendy offense. It’s just that it’s not really his fault.
by bucknellbruin on Dec 8, 2008 9:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well he is responsible for the recruiting though
So I’d be disappointed if I didn’t see some improvements in speed from our skill positions in all of our classes starting from, well, pretty much last year. Hopefully this means that the guys coming off their RS Freshmen years are ready to go.
by Tydides on Dec 8, 2008 10:05 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
Hopefully the freshmen (Hester, Woods, Dye, etc) will be able to reverse that trend. All have been described as faster than the players we have. Ayers and Moore in particular seem to be faster than the other guys at that position. If in 2 years we still struggle to stop spreads (assuming DW is still around) then yes, DW will have to shoulder the blame.
by bucknellbruin on Dec 8, 2008 12:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
One of the things Streeter convientiently overlooked
was the fact that Washington was set on hiring an offensive coach. Washington needs to reinvigorate their fan base so they went with offense and were always going to go with offense. Throw in the fact that DW’s defense has never finished in the top 25 in the country and UCLA hasn’t won more than 7 games since he took over and it’s easy to see why he wasn’t hired. Streeter is reaching again. What a shocker.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Dec 8, 2008 8:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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