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Ben Ball News & Notes: Announcement Day

It is all over the internets now.

Love and Westbrook will be announcing their decision to make themselves available for the NBA draft at a 1 pm press conference this afternoon per the LA Times.

Also from the Oregonian (as an example to show that this not some grand conspiracy by Brian Dohn):

Kevin Love, who in one year went from high school star at Lake Oswego to college All-American at UCLA, will make another big leap today when he announces that he will himself available for the NBA Draft.

A source close to the Love family told The Oregonian on Wednesday that Love will announce his intention to enter the draft. UCLA has scheduled a news conference for 1 p.m. today at the J.D. Morgan Center, the school's athletic administration building at which Love, his father, Stan, and Bruins coach Ben Howland will appear.

Love joins a large group of freshmen around the country who have declared for the draft after an outstanding season, including Memphis' Derrick Rose, USC's O.J. Mayo, Indiana's Eric Gordon, Kansas State's Michael Beasley and Arizona's Jerryd Bayless.

Love entered his freshman season with plenty of expectations after being named a high school all-American at Lake Oswego. He met them with an outstanding season for the Bruins, averaging 17.5 points and 10.6 rebounds and shooting 55.9 percent from the field, and was named a first-team All-American and Pacific-10 Conference player of the year.
Here is the blurb from the AP wire.

As Dohn mentioned earlier this week the move became all but official when Coach Howland told Love that he has a very good chance to be a lottery pick. Unlike Love, Westbrook’s situation is a little more ‘precarious’:
Westbrook also is not expected to hire an agent, and his draft position appears more precarious. After talking with NBA personnel, Howland said last week Westbrook was targeted as being a No. 15 to No. 25 pick in the draft.

The athletic sophomore guard saw his stock sky-rocket this season as he emerged as the Pac-10's defensive player of the year, and his ability to drive to the basket impressed scouts. However, he shot 33.8 percent (26 of 77) from 3-point range and the consistency of his jump shot is in question.

Westbrook averaged 12.7 points per game, and led UCLA with 167 assists, and he played point guard when Collison was injured at the beginning of the season. Howland said if Westbrook returned and Collison did not, Westbrook would be UCLA's point guard next season.
RW is taking a chance by making himself for these NBA tryouts. Because keep in mind there are doubts about this outside shooting and his ability to play pg. So if he doesn’t perform well in the tryouts, it could affect his decision whether or not to keep his name in the draft. More from Dohn on factors going into RW’s decision:
Westbrook, who could be a top 5 pick in the 2009 draft, could put his name in this year, go through workouts and have difficult shooting the ball. If he comes back to UCLA, the memory left with NBA player personnel folks is that Westbrook wasn't a pure shooter, and that could impact his status for 2009.
So this is somewhat of a gamble for RW. Hopefully it works out for him. I am not going to hold out hope for his return to Westwood. However, in terms of come back for one more year, we have already presented the argument how it could really help him position as one of the top players in next year’s draft.

DC will probably make his decision later next week. We can pretty much count him as gone. Like I have said we should get mentally ready for a nuclear scenario no matter what and let the process work out on its own. At the end of the day with Howland in charge, things are going to work out all right.

GO BRUINS.

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With or Without an Agent -- Why does it matter?
Will someone please explain to me why it matters so much whether an athlete attempts to determine his status with or without an agent?

Why wouldn't we want a student/athlete to have the best advice possible while making what may be one of the most important decisions in his life?

We encourage our kids to get professional counseling on many lesser decisions -- including occupational counseling.

And, doesn't this rule discriminate against students whose families don't have access to "informal" counseling from friends of the family who are attorneys, tax advisors, or athletes and coaches? If my daughter had used her 5'10" frame on the hardwoods, instead of in the band, and she needed advice, she'd have plenty of resources (including the fact that many years ago, I was certified as a sports agent by and institute run by Ed Garvey of the NFL players association -- I taught ethics a the institute intended to create a bunch of "ethical, knowledgeable agents that would be recognized by the major sports authorities). I could put a team together for her that would give her the same information, informally, that many student athletes cannot get without making a commitment to an agent. The current rule discriminates against those kids whose families cannot bring those resources to the table.

My sense is that we fear that sports agents are inherently sleazy and that it appears tawdry to have one.

If that's the issue, the cure is to clean up the agents business not to limit the resources available to students trying to make difficult decisions.

Finally, does anyone think the current rule works? I'm sure there are "informal" agency agreements, like Bush's throughout the system. Wouldn't it be better to shine a light on them, and regulate them -- something that can only be done if we legitimize them and don't punish the athlete for using an agent to make this important decision?

The current rule punishes student/athletes for trying to make the most rational  decision they can about whether to stay or leave. Why in this case is less knowledge better?

sjh

by Class of 66 on Apr 17, 2008 7:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think its because
Agents have their own interests in mind because they are business men.  Also, I don't think college athletes should be earning money from agents and then be allowed to come back to school.  If a player signed with an agent, then went back to school, how would the player respond when the agent told him to do x, and the college coach told the player to do y.

I have no problem with the rule.  All the kids have exposure these days.  A savvy college athlete doesn't even need an agent, really.

I agree about professional counseling.  However, its one thing to pay a neutral professional counselor.  It is another to pay a person who then has an interest in how things go down.

by rfirpo on Apr 17, 2008 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

66, you sound much like my sports law professor
on this issue. He is, in real life an agent (kind of a big deal in his field, so it seems) with a secondary NBA presence, and has made similar arguments about this issue in the course of our class.

Part of the argument that he has made against the rule is the underground culture that it breeds; while players (and their families) are limited as to the "official" or "expert" information that they can  receive, this does not prevent people from making contact in an informal basis. My prof's point has been that players considering entering the draft have no shortage of people telling them what their prospects might be, whether they be certified agents (skirting the rules), uncertified agents, wannabes (like the New Era/Bush boys) or handgers on hoping to make a quick buvck.

It would seem to me that allowing players to commit to an agent (without money changing hands), or to officially receive professional advice from an agent certified by the NBA (or relevant pro league) without losing collegiate eligibility unless the player is drafted or signs a contract (playing or endorsement) would be ideal. Such a rule would allow the player and his family to talk to a variety of professionals (agents) who should have a reasonable idea of the player's pro chances. If a player is hoodwinked by an agent (or the agent simply misreads the NBA's desire for the player), he can go back to school rather than be forced to play in the NBDL or overseas (where that same agent is likely to retain rights of representation), while agents that continually exaggerate the NBA prospects of players will become known among the elite level of prep and college players, with the expected result that such agents will not be able to draw clients for very long.

by bruinhoo on Apr 17, 2008 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Normative Ambiguity
Your response may be an accurate reflection of the way the world is, but it does not reflect the way the world ought to be.

I agree -- the policy seems to be in place because we do not trust agents.

And, I can understand that concern. The only person I trusted on the team that represented me and my production company was my lawyer. My agents, who were paid with a "packaging fee" often had interests in conflict with mine.

Unlike other agents, attorneys have a rigorous code of ethics that protects against conflicts and self dealing.

There is no reason we cannot impose those regulations on the agency business. For example, we can create a situation where if an athlete signs with a "certified" agent, he can come back after testing the waters. If he uses an "uncertified agent", he cannot.

It seems to me we can clean up "agency" in a way that protects against your concerns.

And, we can set ground rules certified agents must follow.

For example, in a clean world, there would be no payment from an agent for the "privilege" to represent a student.

I'm not concerned that an agent would be in a position to overpower a coach's instructions should he player return to school. Especially if that agent ever wanted to represent another athlete from that coach's school.

Right now, we have the worst of all worlds. We have sleazy agents and NO ENFORCEMENT of clear violations -- Bushgate.

So, the righteous athletes and agents cannot work together to determine what is best for the athlete and the sinful athletes and agents can violate the few rules that are in place with no fear of reprisal.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Apr 17, 2008 9:08 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm not ashamed to say
that this is not going to be a fun day to be a Bruin basketball fan.
"You don't make it to the Final Four three straight times for no reason..Obviously coaching has something to do with it." Darren Collison

by godblesstyus95 on Apr 17, 2008 9:41 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Myabe Not, But
it's a day we can be very proud of our great players, who have bright, exciting futures ahead of them.
Love My Bruins

by Bruingirl83 on Apr 17, 2008 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Made a lot better by the knowledge..
..that the trend is towards ever brighter starts arriving in the UCLA firmament thanks to Ben Howland's recruiting, the growing reputation of the program and -- let's face it -- the attraction of it being a good opportunity for kids to receive the proper coaching that burnishes their pro reputation.

(How's that for making lemonade out of lemons?)

God, it's great to be a Bruin!

by whp68 on Apr 17, 2008 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Luc
Dohn says LRMAM is leaving too! Sighhhh...
Go UCLA!

by madmaxucla on Apr 17, 2008 11:47 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Putting your name in
isn't the same as leaving if you don't hire an agent, and I highly doubt Luc will. If he were a Freshman or a Sophomore, I'd panic, but you can put your name in once and withdraw it. As a Junior, he only has this opportunity to withdraw it anyway, so why not get feedback on what he needs to work on from the people who will be doing the evaluating later? With his various injuries this year, I just don't see him leaving when he could come back with a hopefully injury free year and vault up the draft boards in a far weaker draft.

by Tydides on Apr 17, 2008 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

True...
Well, I hope you are right.
Go UCLA!

by madmaxucla on Apr 17, 2008 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, he could still go
Stranger things have happened, but if I look at it from the perspective of someone who wants to play professionally, this is the most logical choice. I believe the followup on the most logical choice is to come back, have an injury free year where he shows consistent improvement, and tear up a far weaker draft board.

by Tydides on Apr 17, 2008 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Will it be broadcasted?
Who, if anyone, is broadcasting the press conference?

by RScal on Apr 17, 2008 12:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Radio?
I'm listening to 570am...at least they'll have someone there if they don't carry it live.

by RedDoor on Apr 17, 2008 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

570AM did not carry it live online
but Ben Howland just called in.  His points:
  1.  He was grateful to have Kevin Love this year who was one of the most efficient freshmen in college basketball history.
  2.  Why he urges that they not sign with an agent - he gives the example of Brandon Rush.  He acknowledges it's a slight slight slight chance, but it's still a possibility.  However, Love will be a lottery pick as per Howland and is highly unlikely to return.
  3.  They asked about RW and Luc's conference today, and he said only RW will have a conference today, after they announce the new women's coach (who is Nikki Caldwell.)
  4.  Coach Howland said that Kevin is a special player and accomplished a lot with the pressure and hype coming in of being the national player of the year, and he is mature beyond his years, and is proud of how he represented himself, his family and the university.
It did hurt a bit to hear Kevin was leaving, but I think I always had it in the back of my head that he would be one and done.  Now I have to start that mentality with Jrue.

by freesia39 on Apr 17, 2008 1:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

KTLA
Says it's official, goin to the NBA. Well, we all knew it. Good luck KL!
Go UCLA!

by madmaxucla on Apr 17, 2008 1:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Love on 570AM:
Regarding hiring an agent:
He's keeping it open for now in case of injury, but he could hire one as early as next week... or hold out until just before the draft.

Why he's going pro:
He felt he had a great second half of the Pac 10 season, Pac 10 tourney, and tournament run with the exception of the Memphis game, and it's almost like you have to go to the NBA.

He said it was tough to see Lo in the locker room nearly in tears after the final four game, knowing what he's been through the last four years but he felt it was the best decision to make.

The hosts asked if he felt underused and he said no, and that he wanted to be coachable and not question Coach Ben Howland.

When asked if he was surprised that UCLA stayed in a half court game, he said maybe but he will not go against the decisions of Coach Howland, and that teams knew how to scheme against our Bruins and how to play us.

In his press conference, he stated that he didn't want to give a jaded sense of what happened - he meant that he had a prepared speech and was ready to read that, but felt it wasn't the way to go and instead spoke from the heart.

In regards to his critics about his skills not transferring to the NBA - he says he is determined and will try to get better, and first off, will get into much better shape.

About Keefe as the center - Keefe played well vs WKU and Stanford but the Bruins need depth since Keefe is naturally a power forward and that's somewhere they'll have to look at in recruiting for the future.

He spoke to John Wooden and Coach Wooden says that whatever decision he and his family comes to is the right choice.

Will Kevin earn his degree?  Kevin said he listens to his mom and won't cross her.

Then they asked where he'd like to go, and he said sure the Lakers, the Clippers or to Portland, back home to Oregon.

by freesia39 on Apr 17, 2008 2:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice Work
Your coverage of today's radio appearances is truly appreciated.  Almost as good as hearing them live.  

Thanks for capturing so much detail so we could all be reminded once again how fortunate we have been to have had KL for one memorable season.

by handyman on Apr 17, 2008 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What transfer can we get?
With Kevin leaving, I wish him the best of luck on the next level! We now have to find a center somewhere. Any news on transfers to UCLA or who we are targeting?
CBH: 3 straight PAC-10 titles, most since CJW!

by Lakers Bruins Fanatic on Apr 17, 2008 3:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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