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Q&A w the Daily Bruin: Why We Blog

As mentioned in the BN walk today, Blair Angulo and Kendall Salter from the Daily Bruin has written an article on the emergence of fanblogs, which includes some quotes from the frontpagers of BruinsNation. The quotes were taken from the following Q&A with the Daily Bruin, which represents the collective responses of all the eight frontpagers on BruinsNation.

1) Why was the site started? What are the goals that the writers/admins hope to acheive in their posts and overall?

Bruinsnation.com is a daily online journal/scrapbook (aka a "blog) started by a group of UCLA alums, who bleed blue and gold and obsessively follow the pristine athletic programs of the greatest university in the country. A number of us started BN after we had worked together on other projects. The main goal of the administrators for maintaining this daily journal/scrapbook on Bruin athletics and blog on a regular basis is to have fun writing/talking about UCLA sports, while at the same time increase awareness of the greatest collegiate athletic program in the nation.

2) Who is your target audience? How do you cater to them?

We are not really writing to build an audience. We write to connect with alums, students, and fans of UCLA. And naturally we do it by writing.

3) Do you have limits to what you can or can't post? Ethical concerns, accuracy concerns, etc.?


When it comes to posting what we primarily try is to do our best to stay on topic. In other words, during the tournament, we stayed on the tournament. We try to be accurate, of course. But we aren't reporters. When we make an error, we correct it.

We believe that blogging, especially in a community-based setting such as BN is actually more likely to be accurate than traditional MSM reporting. This is because the stories are posted and our readers have the instant ability to question our opinions, post countervailing facts, and point out any possible factual accuracies.

We also respect original work and try our best to cite accordingly and encourage all of our readers and diarists to do the same while writing on BN. We don't allow full "cut and paste" jobs that fans are often allowed to get away with in other online sports communities.

Additionally, when we make a correction, we update and correct the post in the same prominent position as the original story, unlike a newspaper which may publish a correction on page C13.

We are not neutral. We are advocates for what we believe is in the best interest of UCLA athletics.

4) How big of a role do readers play in the discussion of topics and posts on BruinsNation? How important is the comment section, and what do you feel are the expecations of your readers?

Readers/diarists/posters are an integral part of the BN community. In many cases they drive the discussion on various topics related to Bruin athletics in our diaries and comment section. The creative and aggressive participation from our community members led to college football bloggers award BN as "Best Community" for the 2007 college football season.

Please note that our readers and contributors are (primarily) UCLA fans -- but not necessarily UCLA alumni. But all of the front page contributors are UCLA Alumni and or students,  and that's by design. Some of the most loyal fans of Bruins sports didn't go to school in Westwood, but alumni have a special bond.

5) What does BruinsNation offer to UCLA fans that is different than the conventional newspaper or online news? What are the benefits of this type of fansite as a medium, and are there any negatives?


You can always ask our readers. This idea is really part of the answer.  We take a point of view, but we also are a community.  It's sort of an online version of going down to the local bar to watch the game with other Bruins fans.

We don't do recruiting. We don't really do game recaps. We offer opinions. We are advocates. It's like the difference between Time Magazine (which is theoretically objective) and Dailykos.com or Redstate.com (which are overtly partisan and make no bones about it).

Another thing.  The conventional newspaper is not doing so well these days.  Just look at the stock prices of newspaper companies if you don't believe me.  It's been dead probably since the early 1990s, but those in the industry just don't know it yet.  Reporting is realtime now.  Even though we're not primarily reporters, we can report in real time, the printing presses don't need to be running and we never run out of newsprint.  Online news serves a different purpose.  How much space does the LA Times devote to UCLA stories in a given week?  We cover the depth and breadth and we have unlimited space and we, including the community, can write about whatever interests us, from the reemergence of the baseball program, to the Pauley redevelopment to an in-depth analysis of next season's football depth chart.

6) How do you respond to criticisms of the blog/fansite as too subjective? Do you feel that the subjective nature of the website in beneficial to readers looking to share opinions?


BN is an unabashed UCLA partisan site and will make no apologies for it. We don't consider that a criticism.

Also, please note the question conflates partisanship with subjectivity.  We certainly have opinions, but we have taken great pains to base our opinions on fact.  Indeed, we have crunched numbers on repeated occasions to give us an objective basis four opinions.  Here are four quick examples:

  • Using hoops defensive statistics at the end of Pac-10 regular season to show how the concerns about Bruin's defense heading into the tourney season didn't have a lot of merit. [See Link ]
  • Undercutting the conventional wisdom of the mainstream media that Floyd's basketball team was "younger" than Coach Howlad's squad in 07-8. [See Link]
  • Building the case for Neuheisel as UCLA's head coach by looking at his numbers in Washington. [See Link]
  • Showing how Coach Howland is doing "more" with "less" in 06-07. [See Link]

7) Do you aim any posts toward players and coaches? Do you think any athletes or coaches read BruinsNation material, and would you like that, or is it mostly geared toward the fan?

We usually don't -- except for an occasional "Thank you, thread."

GO BRUINS.

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Great Job Guys!

I think the answers are spot on. They show the depth of thought and commitment that goes into this place.

I think a longer interview would have enabled us to point out the diversity of the contributors to BN. It is a strength and source of both wisdom and humor.

What strikes me most when I take a random visit to other fan sites is the depth and quality of the writing here. There are so many places populated by one line posts.

All of you front pagers set the bar high for all of us who want to contribute. Which goes to another thing the interview does not point out: the enormous contribution you front pagers make, on a daily basis. Nestor, you write the equivalent of a “full column” every day and often more. That’s all some print reporters do for a full day’s wage. And, you do it for free.

Thanks to the front pagers. Good to see you get some recognition.

sjh

by Class of 66 on May 28, 2008 6:50 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great Stuff

In short what I enjoy the most about this blog is the fact that there is alot more information about UCLA then any newspaper would ever write about. Example: la times is all about the school in the south fusc and cater to them. If they (latimes) would give UCLA half the effort they give to fusc i would order the paper.

George G

by georgeg on May 28, 2008 7:44 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just wanted to take this opportunity

to thank N and the rest of the front pagers. You all do a great job and put an amazing amount of time into BN. It truly is appreciated.

by ryebreadraz on May 28, 2008 8:39 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Second that

It does amaze me at times to think of just how much time and effort you all put into this site. Regardless of the love for our school, the desire to get information out, or whatever else that may drive you, your work always is appreciated.

by bruinhoo on May 28, 2008 2:35 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

UVa

Can’t wait to read your takes on our next game Rye. Hopefully I can look up some notes on the Cavs. tomorrow am too.

by Nestor on May 28, 2008 6:23 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm going to have a regional preview in a few hours

and I’m hoping tomorrow I’ll have time to take a closer look at the individual matchups between us and the Cavs.

by ryebreadraz on May 28, 2008 6:39 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OT - question

Are you still up in Pullman? IIRC you were going to look into transferring … still thinking about it?

by Nestor on May 28, 2008 6:41 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not in Pullman anymore

I transferred to Santa Monica JC because it has a great track record for transfers to UCLA. I’l be applying to transfer to UCLA for the Fall of 09.

by ryebreadraz on May 28, 2008 7:07 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Aaha

That makes sense. Well obviously everyone here is going to be pulling for you!

by Nestor on May 29, 2008 3:55 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I second that

Don’t let up on anything academic. Make it easy for the admissions people. I would say work on your math—the writing is fine as is.

by Fox 71 on May 30, 2008 9:54 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I used to wonder...

how you front pagers find the time to do this every day. I mean, some of your posts involve lots of research and certainly most require a significant amount of time to put together. As I became a regular reader, I know the answer. It’s your love for and devotion to the bruins and UCLA. I know because now I find myself checking this site about 20 times a day. Thanks for all your efforts!

I hope we can all meet one day, maybe over a game.

by UCLAbruin920 on May 28, 2008 9:32 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good stuff

I’m glad you told the DB flat out there is a major difference between partianship and subjectivity. The MSM, including the hacks the DB quote in that article, are hell-bent on painting the “blogosphere” as the biased rantings of obsessive fans.

Sure, we’re obsessed with our Bruins.

Sure, there is an occassion rant (on playground pedophiles) here or there.

But, that doesn’t make us biased and it doesn’t make what is written here less accurate. But, this is what to expect from the MSM. These “journalists” know their medium is dying; that soon, they will go the way radio did when TV took off. Sure, radio is still around, but it isn’t the power medium it once was (I’m sure Fox remembers those good ol’ days). And sure enough, people will increasingly turn to the internet, to places like BN for news on what interests them.

Is there a better place online for Bruin sports coverage? Nope. That’s why I’m here. I thrive on UCLA athletics and the news about our programs. I love it. And I can’t get enough of it in the MSM. Here, though, there’s always more than enough. And people, being consumers, will eventually flock to BN-type places for their particular interests, as many of us have.

But the MSM isn’t going to give up without a fight. They’re going to run their smear campaign against the “blogosphere” and continue to tell anyone who will listen that they are the sole source for objective, fair coverage.

The only problem for them is: fewer and fewer people are listening.

by norcald503 on May 28, 2008 9:37 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thank You, Front Pagers

As a fairly new BN’er, what strikes me as the most unique and important aspect of this site is the overall sense of respect—respect for our UCLA, respect for each other, and, above all, respect for the truth.

Love My Bruins

by Bruingirl83 on May 28, 2008 11:13 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice but...

You should have gone philosophical on them and dropped this from Descartes:

“I Blog, therefore I am”

You front pagers do amazing things here. A true service to the dedicated nation of Bruin sports faithful around the world.

Keep it up.

by Bald Eagle on May 28, 2008 12:45 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One other purpose

Whether intended or not, another purpose of this place is to keep the MSM in general and the print medium in particular honest. When there is bad reporting, the reporter gets called out more often than not. And more often than not, the criticism of the MSM is done factually. The reporting about the football program during the Reign of Error featured multiple posts from the moderators and from the rest of us about the misreporting and nonreporting from the MSM.

I believe that BN and DumpCTS played a large role in spurring Mr. Guerrero to take action. And look at the outcome!

by Fox 71 on May 28, 2008 1:39 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fun ...

one thing I’d like to add to the discussion is that we - the front page writers - do this for fun.

We do it for fun with no expectation of making any money from this venture. (At risk of complete disclosure—there is a little bit of money in an account somewhere from some ads that the blog ran at one time. I’m not sure if any of us know how much, but we know it isn’t much. If we ever earned enough for it to matter, we’d donate it to the school in some way).

There are blogs that are in the game to make money. There are blogs on this network who do what we do for other school that are trying to make money. That’s fine. That’s not why we do it.

I point this out not to make sure everyone knows how selfless we are, but to point out that we have no skin in the game. We all have other jobs and vocations and aren’t depending on this to make a living and we will never and would never let the opportunity to make money impact what we write.

We’re fans. Never forget that. This isn’t a business to us, it’s a pastime, a very, very enjoyable pastime.

We hope our readers have as much fun reading as we do writing.

Go Bruins

by Achilles on May 28, 2008 2:24 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Actually

We do it for the money. And only the money!

Like I care about Cal. Go Financial Self-Interest!

www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com

by TwistNHook on May 28, 2008 3:30 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks ...

... for the kind words everyone.

by Nestor on May 28, 2008 6:17 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Piling on,

please accept my appreciation and gratitude for BN. The front-pagers for providing a meeting place and food for discussion, the community for lively, respectful, and articulate commentary.

And now for something completely different: “BN is an abashed UCLA partisan site …” I think you mean “unabashed.” In general, is there a method for citing typos and such in topics, other than by posting a comment?

Thanks again, BN community, for all you do.

by Bruinut on May 28, 2008 7:03 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Interview question

I’m curious about one thing: when those writers approached BN about the story, did they request a phone interview with anyone? Or did they ask for email responses from the first?

Keep up the good work, leaders of the fearless Bruins Nation!

by dlipkin on May 29, 2008 5:29 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It was done via email

They submitted questions.

All eight of us reviewed the Qs and answered them collectively in one voice via email.

by Nestor on May 29, 2008 5:38 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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