Forcier acceptance letters
Was checking out the PE Bruin blog and found this...
http://www.qbforce.com/chris/Offers/Offers.htm
It is a link to Chris Forcier's website and on it he has copies of the scholi letters he received from several schools, including UCLA. Interesting to see how they differ.
Plus he has some other interesting stuff on his site as well. Don't know if I remember a current player having such a site.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of BruinsNation's (BN) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of BN's editors.
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Chris Rix
had a horrible website. His dad would post blogs on there, and elsewhere and make no damned sense and ramble and be a complete asshat.
I met his dad
My high school football team played Santa Margarita during the summer in passing league (1999?) and Chris Rix was their QB. I was not on the varsity team yet and I ended up watching the game with a few teammates. Rix had already accepted a scholarship to Florida State and we all wanted to see what a big time Division I QB looked like.
We were marveling at his arm strength and the speed of his throws (although he couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn) when the guy next to us mentioned that Rix was his son. We ended up talking with him for nearly the entire game and I walked away having not the best impression of him. He seemed a little odd to me in a creepy way, not the interesting odd that makes you want to meet someone again. There was also something about the way he talked about the workout and supplement routine he had his son on that really unnerved me. So to hear that he would make blog posts that ramble and make him sound like an asshat does not really surprise me.
As for the game, I believe it finished in a tie. Our offense was terrible but we still scored once and our defense played well enough to hold them to one score as well. It also helped that Rix kept missing wide open receivers. So imagine my (complete lack of) surprise when I saw that he was not starting at QB at the end of the season when they lost to Mater Dei in the playoffs.
If you look around on the website...
There’s also a section on his younger brother, Tate. They have all the offers he’s received as well as a “media package,” which seems to be his opinion of himself. One snippet:
MY (X) Factor is over the top. I’m a “GAMER” with the willingness, ability, and determination to make plays, move the chains and WIN, especially under duress! I’ve had varsity football game experience since my freshman year. I am confident that I can manage a game as good as any HS QB.
Ohhh noooo
When I got pressure, I will usually make the play
Hopefully Chris is smarter than his brother.
No offense to C-Force and his family, but...
...that website is well, not very well done, to say the least.
On the upside, it does compete with North Korea’s official website (click here for hilarity) for worst cover-up of obvious bias and self-aggrandizement ever!
Uh... wow.
“The Official Webpage of the DPRK”. I don’t know whather to laugh or be repulsed. I started to read the forum, just out of morbid curiosity. Now, DHS will probably be knocking on my door this afternoon. Thanks for nothing, NorCal!
Sure, sometimes Nestor can be hard on those who crack on the moderators here, but what do you supppose happens to dissenters on that board?
greg in denver
They just say ...
“Why don’t you pass the time by playing a little solitaire?”
I think laughter is most appropriate
I mean, what is sad is that they actually buy into that garbage (nevermind that this is a country so horrible that people jump the border into . . . China . . . I mean, seriously, what does that say?!).
But their website is just so painfully bad, it’s good, you know. I mean would you expect anything else from a country run by a deranged midget?
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Have you ever even been to China? It has made huge strides in the past 20 years in terms of quality of life. Although I moved to the United States from China for good reason, it is incredibly ignorant to assume that the world can sustain 6.7 billion people living at the equivalent energy level as the average U.S. citizen today (U.S. population
Not quite what I meant
I wasn’t implying that the PRC is some backwater, out-of-touch country. What I was implying is that it is (and if current events in Tibet don’t persuade one otherwise, I don’t know what will) a rather oppressive country with curtailed civil liberties.
I don’t see how U.S. energy consumption is at all relevant to my comment, but that is neither here nor there. What I was trying to imply was that North Korea is so bad, people would be willing to jump the border into China (with its oppressive, totalitarian regime).
Want to see censorship at work? Go to images.google.com and run a search for Tiananmen Square. Then go to images.google.cn and run the same search. Results are kind of different, aren’t they?
If you meant civil liberties instead of material wealth, then
First I would like to say that it is obvious that China has a lot to improve on in this department. But it is not quite as simple as the media generally portrays, I think.
First, the U.S. had something called a “civil war” when the South wanted to secede. The same arguments of sovereignty that apply to Tibet today applied to the South back then. If you don’t feel that the civil war is the best example, think about the battles to keep Texas, Spain’s battles for the Phillippines, England’s battles to keep Ireland, England’s battles to keep its colonies in the Americas, Russia’s battles to keep the Chechnya (although Russia is not exactly an example of free regime either), Sri Lanka and the Tamil Tigers. The point I make is NOT that China’s actions are “okay by comparison”, but rather that historically, NO COUNTRY has simply given up the perceived right to rule over other people.
Secondly, it is remarkably ethnocentric to feel that the Western policies of running a country, e.g. republic, will work in non-Western countries. India is a representative government, and in the past 20 years it has made very little progress relative to China. If you want to have a representative government for 1.3 billion people (as opposed to a “measly 300 million”) the logistics are much more difficult. Also, consider the relative inefficiencies of Congress. If you want to have a representative government that can take the swift actions necessary to propel a 3rd world out of the 3rd world, I would argue that would be extremely difficult. This is why Russia, recently a representative government, essentially reelected a relatively oppressive Putin who prefers to centralize power (economy was not managed well under Yelsin). The inherent danger is not that you get a competent iron-fisted ruler (for the economy), it is that you get an incompetent one (Mao, Stalin, were both incompetent for the economy, and yes that is widely acknowledged in China).
Censorship in China is a well-known phenomenon, to its population as well. As far as I can tell, the famous tank photo still shows up multiple times on the first page under images.google.cn. If you want to know why some of the pictures are different, please consider that Tiananmen Square is the most famous square in China’s capital, Beijing. As such, it should be no suprise that the popularity of TS images differ for the Chinese population than for foreign populations. Obviously I am not saying that censorship does not exist or is minimal; censorship is heavy. But in China, and I have been there many times, critcism of the government is abound but muted because and ONLY because of the relative material progress that its citizens have experienced. I’ve seen people pushing police officers without having the crap beaten out of them, etc. You have to consider the censorship relative to the sentiments of the population (which I understand are not two completely independent variables). For example, in the case of Tibet, MOST Chinese people in America that I have spoken to support, or at least understand, the actions of the Chinese government. Also, if you don’t think censorship in the United States exists … you would be clearly mistaken.
So again, what I say is not meant as a defense of China’s civil actions, which I disagree with for the most part, but rather to ask you to consider it in a little more detail than the media portrays. I didn’t originally mean to type this much but it is a bit of a pet peeve when people make those generalized statements—maybe you have considered it carefully but I don’t see that reflected in your post.
What you said is that N. Korea is “so horrible that people jump the border into . . . China . . . I mean, seriously, what does that say?!” The reasons people jump border are 1. economic and 2. civil. To say that you were not at all considering the economic aspect is either disingenuous or stupid. I honestly do not think that most countries in the world are ahead of China right now—probably Western Europe, North America excluding Central America, Australia, and a few select countries (e.g. Singapore) are significantly ahead considering both economic and civil sides together. Last I checked, all those countries added up are <
Same mistake
are less than 50% of the total number of countries in the world.
I'm not some mindless media follower
Well, first, I’d like to thank you for telling me how I think, what I mean when I type something, and for doing it in such a lovingly condescending manner. Gee thanks!
Now, I think it’s completely inaccurate to compare the American Civil War with Tibet’s quest for sovereignty. The South willingly joined the Union when each state ratified the Constitution. Last I checked, Tibet was invaded by the PLA beginning in October of 1950. Bit of a difference. But that’s neither here nor there. If you want to compare apples to oranges, I’m not going to stop you.
Now, this is where we get into you telling me what I thought. I never suggested our form of government works everywhere else. To the contrary, I think many kinds of governments are sustainable, insofar as they guarantee basic human rights (you know, things like freedom of speech, press, and religion). Those are not absolute freedoms in the PRC. My point was that oppression and poverty are so bad in DPRK that people flee to the PRC, which by any standard, has a much lower standard of living and far fewer civil liberties.
Yes, it would be ethnocentric to think our form of government should be exported throughout the globe (never mind that it was kind of stupid to suggest I’m Western-ethnocentric without knowing what my ethnicity is…it’s apparent you just assumed I’m a typical, American, white guy, which I’m not). Moreover, I’ll ignore your argument that developing nations will not join us in the "First World" without representative government because I think it’s extremely offensive and racist to assume "Third World" individuals cannot develop their countries’ economies without repressive regimes.
I’ll concede that the image comparison is starkly different than the last time I personally ran both searches (which I would guess was maybe 3 or 4 years ago; which I suppose is a measure of some progress in censorship in PRC).
Moreover, I’m glad you think so little of my UCLA education to assume I, based on my off-hand joke, have given this issue little-to-no thought except what the media has told me. I like to think my fellow Bruins are intelligent consumers of information who weigh information from multiple sources. It seems you don’t join me with that assumption of your peers.
When I made my comment, no I did not consider the economic situation in the PRC. But, since you bring up the point, the standard of living in the PRC still is light-years behind the U.S. and Western Europe. Sure, it’s easy to say the PRC has made huge strides when all you see are the shiny lights of Shanghai. Venture into the countryside and you’ll find nearly 300 million people who live on under $1 USD a day and nearly 47% of a country that lives on less than $2 USD (but hey, that’s just what the World Bank says). Never mind that our per capita GDP is $46,000 while theirs is $7,800 (which would rank the PRC around the mid-80s in rank compared to other countries).
So all in all, when I consider the criteria you ask (both civil considerations and economic), then I stand by my comment. Quality of life in the PRC still lags far behind that of the U.S. and Western Europe. Since we’re also throwing anecdotal evidence out there, I’m sure there is a reason so many Chinese seek to leave the PRC for the U.S. every year (and why so few Americans move the other way).
Anyway the point was the DPRK is a horrible place to live. So horrible that the PRC, with all of its major problems, is still pretty attractive. I know it might be hard to accept that someone would dare attack the reputation of Chairman Mao’s paradise, who not only gave it a lot of thought (which I did do a fair amount of while at UCLA), and isn’t just listening to what the media tells him to think.
For the future, when someone makes a "generalized statement" try not to fly off the handle. For now, let’s move this discussion off of a UCLA-orientated board (if you’d like to continue this discussion, then feel free to email me at norcald503(at)gmail.com) and let’s just agree to disagree on this issue and move on to something I’m sure we can both agree on: U$C sucks.
Okay
First, I apologize for characterizing you in that way. It’s just that your original comment seemed unnecessarily flippant; nevertheless it was wrong for me to respond in a condescending matter. In any case, thank you for explaining your thoughts.
There are a few points in your reply that I have already addressed.
1. In my last paragraph I said that Western Europe and North America (U.S. and Canada) are significantly ahead of China, and furthermore I addressed the anecdotal evidence you present by saying that I moved here for good reason myself in my first post.
2. As for “[daring to] attack the reputation of Chairman Mao’s paradise”, I noted previously my disagreements with China’s current policy, and Mao’s general economic incompetence. To my knowledge, Mao is perceived in China as a hero for his leadership as a general, and as a fool for his role as a leader, during which he set China back at least 50 years.
3. I do not make the argument that “developing nations will not join us in the “First World” without representative government.”
4. Lastly, I also agree that the Civil War is not the best example, which is why I felt it was necessary to give several other examples. The exact circumstances are different for each one, but the general rule, that no country willingly gives up sovereignty over a group of people, remains the same.
I think we both agree that DPRK is a pretty horrible place, and that China still has some serious ground to cover before it acheives a similar level as the Western European and North American countries. But I honestly feel that China is not as bad as its worst parts, just like the United States is nowhere near as bad as a 700,000 person “terror” watch list would have one think.
I agree and apologize
I apologize for replying in such a verbose and somewhat inflammatory manner. I’m glad we are able to come to some understanding; I think I have a much lower opinion of the PRC than you, but I do agree it is not as bad as its worst parts.
Although, as a Bruin, I am somewhat concerned since you failed to respond in kind to my U$C sucks. Haha.
On a side note
This is what I appreciate the most about BN and about being a Bruin in general. When we do have disagreements, they are almost always arguments of substance, and while 99% of internet arguments turn into full on flame wars, that never seems to be the case here. I think that says a lot about this community and I am proud to be a Bruin and to come across BN.
I'm a little disappointed
I thought there was going to be a formal Declaration of War between China and North Korea. (Remember, the offense gets to roll three dice, and the defense only gets to roll two.)
I still have armies in the Ukraine
You know what the Ukraine is? It’s a sitting duck. A road apple, Newman. The Ukraine is weak. It is feeble. I think it’s time to put the hurt on the Ukraine…
Generic title
Statement of nationalistic pride. “Out of context quote from your reply.” Questioning of your intelligence level. Further questioning of your parents’ intelligence level.
Detailed response with four points:
1. Ad hominem attack.
2. Strawman argument and snide comment.
3. Anecdotal evidence.
4. Statistical analysis with no references cited.
Irrelevant but cleverly constructed bashing of historical and current mistakes committed by your assumed country of birth, race, and gender. You racist. You sexist (for good measure). Scathing Hitler comparison while still claiming moral relativism.
Accusation that you went to USC. Realization that the USC accusation accusation goes toooooo far and removal of that from your post.
If I had a nickel...
...for every time I saw someone use “the Hitler argument” online, I could make the following detailed response:
1. I’d be able to pay off my student debt.
2. I could retire at the age of 25.
3. I would be able to single-handedly fund the Pauley renovation, buy land near campus, and finance the construction of a football stadium on it.
4. Have enough left over to give every U$C athlete not on the take a nice allowance (which, I guess, since they’re all already spoken for, is a problem I don’t have to worry about).
CNN had "Notes from North Korea" on tonight
It’s rebroadcast at 5pm PDT tomorrow, and was quite good. While I’ve never set foot on DPRK soil, I have seen North Korea about 15 yards away. Last time I went to Korea, I took a tour of the DMZ; it’s a scarry place.
Honestly
The guys at BN are pretty mild compared to some of the other popular fansites. Try saying one negative comment about Tracy Pierson on BRO (or Gary Paskeweiughiwtz or whatever that’s name is on WeSucHard.com). You will get instantly banned. The moderators on boards like InsideCarolina are even tougher. It happens when a blog or message board gets big. I don’t blame the guys at BN. Unlike the other boards we are not being charged to post/participate. Why should they put up with negative whining and bitching.
But that DPRK page – roflpmp – pure comedy.
Nestor & Co. run a fair show
Tracy Pierson, on the other hand, runs BRO as if it was Dachau.
Anyway, I’m glad you enjoyed the DPRK show. Shit is hilarious.
Tracy is cool too
I have no problem with Tracy either. There are lot of idiots on BRO who are total morons. I appreciate all the work Tracy and his crew does. I don’t post on their boards because that board seems to be over-run by lot of posters who never went to UCLA. I like it here much more because it is dominated by alums and students. But still I really appreciate the info Tracy, Greg and rest of their team provides. I was just making the point it’s not unreasonable for moderators of lot of these big sports sites to be a little tough. If they weren’t, I’d bet they lose their sanity from all the whining and bitching.
I agree to an extent...
...but I think the way BRO is run is a bit heavy-handed. Agreed, there are a lot of dolts over there, but I suspect Nestor & Co. would run that ship a little more even-handedly. Perhaps this is my own homerism for BN, but oh well.

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