Ben Ball Roundup: News & Notes
Let's start with congratulating the World Champion Boston Celtics. I guess after five years of Ben Ball, I appreciate teams playing defense that much more. It’s the Cs who played like our Ben Ball warriors last night. They were tenacious. They played defense. They hustled. The wanted it more. And they played that way the entire series (and since I don't follow the C's closely I imagine that's how they go to the Finals). They deserve to be champions. So congrats to the Green Bandwagon. Hopefully the Lakers can take that lesson and figure out how they can do the same next year allowing our friends at Forum Blue And Gold to celebrate next season. With Phil Jackson in charge and the young team that emerged this season, I believe they will come back strong. And as reflected at FBG in this morning after it was a great season for a young Laker team. On to our Ben Ball warriors.
Now that June 16th has come and gone articles are popping up with pre-season rankings. Andy Katz from ESPN has UCLA at number 3:
3. UCLA
Don't cry for UCLA because it lost Kevin Love and Russell Westbrook to the NBA draft. Getting back Darren Collison at the point, Josh Shipp on the wing and the No. 1 recruiting class with a little bit of everything -- scoring, floor leadership and rebounding -- make a fourth straight Final Four a legitimate goal.
That's a 14 spot jump for UCLA from Katz's April 9 projection which assumed DC going pro (along with KL, RW & LRMAM). Katz also didn't take into account the arrival of JM, a development Luke Winn of SI.com took in account while penning UCLA as one of the biggest winners from this off-season:
It was a bizarro offseason in the Bruins' backcourt. The man who was supposed to take over the point next season, Russell Westbrook, went from college backup to NBA lottery pick over the course of his sophomore season, and bolted for the league. The man who was supposed to turn pro after this season, Darren Collison, was shown up in the Final Four by Memphis' Derrick Rose and then decided to come back to Westwood for redemption. Collison will be everybody's preseason first-team All-American at point guard, and is exactly the kind of heady veteran who can help shepherd in UCLA's next wave of guards -- incoming freshmen Jrue Holiday, Jerime Anderson and Malcolm Lee. This situation has to be classified as a positive.
Losing All-American Kevin Love, who will be taken even higher than Westbrook in the lottery, was a foregone conclusion; the development that truly hurt, though, was that forward Luc Richard Mbah a Moute opted not to return to make a run at a fourth straight Final Four. The second-round-pick would have been the Bruins' best frontcourt defender. Meanwhile, in a recruiting development that was almost unfair -- given that the Bruins already had what was considered the nation's No. 1 class for 2008 -- they snagged the last five-star center on the board in J'Mison Morgan, a former LSU commitment who had backed out on the Tigers in May.
I still think the number 3 ranking from Katz is a bit high. We will have to see whether Keefe can step up (I think he will). And I think we should expect that it will take some time for the freshmen to gel with upperclassmen. I think UCLA is a top-10 team, however, the number 3 ranking could be a little generous. We will see.
Obviously Katz has UNC at number 1. Interestingly he has Jamie Dixon's Pitt at the number 2 spot. Also of note ASU and UA are the other ranked Pac-10 teams respectively checking in at 12 and 19. Notre Dame is ranked number 4. Remember they are coming out to Pauley his coming season. Texas is now ranked number 13 after the loss of Augustin (they were ranked number 1 in Katz's April 9 projection). Bruins will take on the Longhorns in Austin next season.
Going back to LRMAM's decision, Frank Burlison, the well respected college basketball reporter (Frank knows his hoops) from the Long Beach Press Telegram has an advice for Luc - don't hire an agent:
Luc Richard Mbah a Moute's decision to depart UCLA without playing his senior season was baffling to the most of those who evaluate talent for the NBA for a living.
"I'm not sure he will get drafted at all (even in the second round)," said a respected director of player personnel for a Western Conference franchise.
"He's more likely a guy you would invite to camp (with other undrafted players or free agents)."
The 6-foot-5 Mbah a Moute could end up as a late second-round selection, but he would be wise not to hire an agent yet.
If he goes undrafted and hasn't hired an agent, he can apply to the NCAA to have his college eligibility reinstated, as Randolph Morris (Kentucky) and Jerry Green (UC Irvine) did several years ago.
Regardless of whether Mbah A Moute has or hasn't played his final game in a Bruins uniform, Coach Ben Howland's team will be favorite to win the program's fourth consecutive conference title and make a solid run for a fourth straight Final Four appearance.
We will see if LRMAM will take Frank's suggestion. It would be the smart choice. But I am not sure LRMAM cares at this point. As I have said before he seems to have mentally grown out of college.
To Luc's credit he has been taking care of business in classroom:
Luc said he is five or six classes shy of graduating. He said he could take those classes over the summer, some online, and be on target to graduate.
He was asked how his father responded to his decision to stay in the draft and Luc said: "He knew what I was going to do after last night anyway. He supports me whatever I did. His main thing has always been school. Schoolwise, I only have about five or six classes left to graduate. Some of those classes I can take online. That was the main thing with him. He was really happy with the fact that I'm really close to graduating."
As for the APR, Howland said Luc is leaving UCLA on good academic terms. The APR will not be affected. What Howland seemed a little upset about was that because Luc is leaving early, he only has 11 players on scholarship. He can have 13.
As Haddock (who BTW has been doing a pretty good job in Dohn's absence in the DN blog) noted in the post above the number would go up to 12 if Stepheson were to become a Bruin.
One player who will not be at UCLA is former Kentucky guard Derrick Jasper, who has to decided to transfer to UNLV. We had already mentioned before why Jasper might not have been a good fit for UCLA. In any event, we wish good luck to Derrick.
GO BRUINS.
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Massive depth?
One of the nicer by-products of UCLA’s situation is the depth we have versus last year and the fact that the higher the caliber player you practice against on a daily basis, the better you may become in “regular games”.
Luke Winn’s article (citation above) also made some interesting observations like Memphis came up big by virtue of several players sticking around and Cantelone Hoovering up a couple of good assistants (one from AZ) and Arizona keeping Budinger. Here is an interesting take on how the AZ fans think that his return along with Loot’s second coming will be - well - their second coming.
We’ll see, won’t we?
There’s also this juicy tidbit concerning the dire straits of our favorite cross-town JC’s program:
While Mayo was virtually guaranteed to be a one-and-done player, the other Trojan freshman who jumped into the draft, Davon Jefferson, made perhaps the most bone-headed move of any collegian. Without consulting with the USC staff, Jefferson signed with an agent and removed any possibility of returning to school, despite the fact that he was a borderline second-round pick. Jefferson’s lackluster showing at the pre-draft camp may have sealed his fate of going undrafted. Had he remained with the Trojans for 1-2 more seasons he might have developed into a first-round caliber scorer...ya gotta love it!
God, it's great to be a Bruin!
by WHP '68 on Jun 18, 2008 6:48 AM PDT 0 recs
Jefferson
He may be the dumbest human being alive. He seems to consistently make the dumbest choices, both with words and actions. How did this guy even pass his classes last fall semester?
by bornagainbruin on
Jun 18, 2008 1:01 PM PDT
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Uh, Bornagain, you want to re-think that statement?
“Pass his classes” in the context of a trOJan b-baller means Duh-von was driving past the campus in his new car as he went to pick up his credit card from a bogus charity.
by Fox 71 on
Jun 18, 2008 2:08 PM PDT
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You mean he actually passed a driver's test??
I’m not so sure I’m willing to make that assumption.
And considering Duh-von was able to pass all his “alleged” classes and stay eligible, what does it say about Gabe Pruitt who couldn’t?
by bornagainbruin on
Jun 18, 2008 2:40 PM PDT
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K-Love will be tough, but RW is easy...
Replacing K-Love will not happen, but after everyone sees Jrue, very few will remember RW. I saw the kid once last year, and he’s K-Love at 6’3”. Our biggest worry is the one and done possibility and that could mean that we could lose 4-5 starters from next year’s team for 2010. CBH will fill the spots with quality players since that still will leave Lee, Anderson, Gordon, Morgan, Lane, Reeves, Roll, and who else he gets. No need to worry.
As to SC and Jefferson, remember this is the guy who took 6 years to graduate high school. How he even got through one year at SC says something. He was one and done from grammar school.
by whittier71 on Jun 18, 2008 9:19 AM PDT 0 recs
I’m not too quick to assume that the other freshmen are sticking around. Morgan may also be a one-and-done. But still, you’re right, there’s no need to worry.
Regarding DUHvon Jefferson. First he said he would return. Then he signed with an agent. My guess is that, given his past record, he was failing out… even at SC and had no choice but to declare for the draft.
by UCLAbruin920 on
Jun 18, 2008 12:10 PM PDT
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Disagree
How could any Bruin forget this?

LET’S GO!
by norcald503 on
Jun 18, 2008 3:17 PM PDT
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Forget these classic RW moments? I think not...





So, to conclude, sorry Whittier, I have to disagree with you. Sure, someone else will start in RW’s position next season. But just like FF, LMR, LRMAM, and AA, he’s a Ben Ball Warrior that no one around here will be forgetting anytime soon.
by norcald503 on
Jun 18, 2008 3:21 PM PDT
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I hope Luc doesn't sign with an agent and goes undrafted
beyond my selfish reasons regarding UCLA. I think Luc can become a much better player with another year at UCLA and he could really improve his stock for next season, but not his draft stock. Remember that players must only go through the draft once so if Luc goes undrafted and returns to UCLA next year then he will be a free agent when he enters the NBA next year. That would allow him to pick which team fits him best to go to and we know how important fit is in the NBA.
by ryebreadraz on Jun 18, 2008 10:46 AM PDT 0 recs
Unfortunately...
It could also mean that he would be free to leave DURING the season. I know Luc has shown great character during his time at UCLA, but that’s a bit scary. If a playoff-bound team, like the Lakers, were to decide that he would be a much better option off the bench defensively than Radmo (which would be a wise decision) and come calling with contract in February, it could be a disaster.
That isn’t to say I wouldn’t want him back, if he goes undrafted (and I highly doubt he will), but I don’t think it’s without complications. JK seems ready to step it up, and I’m excited to see what he can do with a healthy (knock on wood) off-season and a full year of games, plus the young guys will be looking to play some minutes as well. I certainly wanted Luc to come back, selfishly, but I think we’re potentially fine without him (an improved JK splitting time with Gordon sure sounds good to me).
by cabz on
Jun 18, 2008 12:36 PM PDT
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I thought he did hire an agent
I suppose it’s not that important though, since he will be drafted.
by SuperBruinMan on
Jun 18, 2008 7:27 PM PDT
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Say what now?
I’ve never heard of players not getting drafted and then returning to school. Are you sure about this rule?
by godblesstyus95 on
Jun 18, 2008 7:30 PM PDT
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Randolph Morris
Declared and went undrafted after his freshman year @ Kentucky (2006), and was allowed to return to Kentucky. However, I am not sure if the rule is still the same.
by bruinhoo on
Jun 18, 2008 8:24 PM PDT
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Same rule
Morris got suspended for 10 games (or so, I don’t remember the exact number) when he came back, but that was because he hired an agent. If Luc doesn’t hire an agent he could return and not be suspended.
by ryebreadraz on
Jun 18, 2008 8:29 PM PDT
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rye and cabz
thanks for those worthy nuggets of information. I had been hoping that Luc would go undrafted, return to UCLA, kick some Butte, and become a late first rounder next year. Oh, well.
by bornagainbruin on Jun 18, 2008 1:04 PM PDT 0 recs
I saw 'Gunnin for that #1 spot' last night
Yes, I was there during game 6. Don’t ask, long story. I won’t comment on the movie because it was a press screening and hasn’t come out yet; next week it comes out; but will say Lance Stephenson was very impressive, up there with Love and Beasley as the more impressive players in the 8 guys Adam Yauch focuses on. Hopefully we can land Lance, tough kid from Brooklyn.
by bruin95 on Jun 18, 2008 10:04 PM PDT 0 recs















