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Pauley Renovation: I'll Believe It When I See It And Not A Moment Sooner

The Daily Bruin published a story yesterday about the Pauley Pavilion renovation.

If I were going to be sarcastic, I'd make a joke about how the whole project is euphemistically called the Pauley Pavilion Renovation -- as if it were a real and tangible thing, like it is going to happen some time soon.

Hang on, let's look at some of what the story says, just so we're all on the same page:

When UCLA first began to plan its Pauley Pavilion renovation project, Edwin Pauley’s heirs were among the first individuals contacted.

The building was dedicated to Edwin Pauley when it opened in 1965, in honor of his service as a UC regent and philanthropist and his donation to fund the building’s original construction.

Athletic Director Dan Guerrero sat down with the Pauley family to discuss the possibility of changing the historic venue’s name and selling the rights to a corporate sponsor.

The Pauley family understood the possible need for a name change and offered the very first donation to the project. Guerrero said the donation was unsolicited.

Okay ... and:

UCLA initially announced the project Jan. 11, 2007, when it hoped to have construction completed by legendary basketball coach John Wooden’s 100th birthday, Oct. 14, 2010. Since that announcement, the project has moved slowly, as UCLA has sought to raise funds for the project.

While a 2012 completion date is now most likely, the pace of the planning stages should pick up considerably this summer when the school receives design plans from NBBJ, an architecture firm it hired Feb. 7. Those plans will provide an exact definition of the scope and magnitude for the renovation.

The plans are a preliminary aspect of the overall project, but they will still be a significant step in the timeline Guerrero has laid out for the project’s completion. He said the school plans to begin construction “in the early part of 2010.”

Among the concerns that NBBJ will address in its plans are concessions, a new entrance, fan circulation and seismic regulations.

But for many involved, those tweaks to the arena are not as centrally as important as the history behind Pauley, and its emblematic status on campus. The 43-year-old facility has housed 38 national championship teams and Wooden’s dynasty. The school’s hope to preserve and bolster that legacy is at the fore of the talks to improve the arena.

“Pauley represents John Wooden in many ways, who represents the best in all of us,” Chancellor Gene Block said in an interview with the Daily Bruin in May. “It’s an icon on campus.”

There's more, of course, I encourage you to read the whole story, but now you get the gist.

Let me make a couple of point.

The first set of block quotes represent a good sign, a small sign, but a good sign.

This is because there is no way to do this project "right" without basically re-doing the building and there is no way to re-do the building without corporate money and there is no way to get corporate money without letting the corporation hang a big sign on the outside with their name on it.

And that sign is almost certainly going to be bigger than the sign that says "Pauley."

Traditionalists were and are a stumbling block here. They -- whoever they are -- don't want to mess with tradition and don't want UCLA to play its basketball games in anything not called "Pauley Pavilion" or something close. I don't have a link, but if memory serves, you can count Coach John Wooden among this group, I believe he once said he would have nothing to do with a new building if it wasn't Pauley Pavilion. Wooden, of course, was a great coach, but his favorite musical act was the Mills Brothers -- as much as we love him, we can't let him have too much say over the aesthetics of our new basketball environment.

But Coach Wooden aside, I don't think the traditionalists should have too much say on this project. If you are going to do this, do it right, raise the money and build a state of the art arena and call it whatever you have to call it. I tip my hat -- heck, I bow down -- to the generosity of the Pauley family. But mostly I admire the fact that even they see the light and realize that a change in the name might be what it takes to build a new gym.

As for the rest, I call bullshit on the 2012 completion date.

Just look at the history of the major construction projects on campus. For the record, they still haven't moved completely into the new hospital. I don't have the dates in front of me, but they are years late on completing that project.

As for Pauley, there is no funding in place yet. There are no plans. They haven't broken ground.

And we're talking about the government here.

But you know what really scares me:

The best cast scenario is that Ben Howland won't coach in the new gym until like Year Nine or Year Ten of his tenure. Before Howland even moved here from Pittsburgh, he expressed the necessity of a new building. I bet he never thought he'd have to wait a decade.

What if there are delays? (That might be the funniest thing I've ever written -- it's not a matter of What? ... we all know it's really a question of "How many delays ... ) What if he gets tired of waiting. What if one season away from home becomes two?

Look, I don't know the enormity and scope of doing a project like this. I know it takes time. I know it isn't easy. I know the project relies on the money of people who aren't me. So, I'm mindful of not being too critical.

But I do have to say: I don't believe anything I read or anything anyone says about the Pauley Pavilion renovation. I won't believe anything until I see it with my own eyes.

 

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Actually, the hospital IS opening

June 29th. They REALLY are doing it, since they’re moving parking permits around and devising methods on how to move the patients. Shocking indeed.

But I remember the original completion date for the hospital was 2004. Then I’d walk by and the year would drop off and suddenly become 2005. Then they finally gave up putting a date on there.

The only hope is that they really need the building done ASAP for maximum UCLA publicity and they’ll work on it faster than anticipated. Unlike say… the dorms, where it’s taken two years to renovate one existing building, instead of one, and now they want to build even more buildings up there.

by freesia39 on Jun 24, 2008 9:16 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

My point exactly ...

and - this is off topic - it might be cool to go by the hospital on June 29 and watch them wheel all the patients across Westwood Boulevard.

Go Bruins

by Achilles on Jun 24, 2008 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed...

I was at UCLA from 2001-2005 and if there’s 2 things every UCLA student knows its that ‘SC sucks and UCLA is ALWAYS behind schedule building…

by impaulv on Jun 24, 2008 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Having recently seen a number of top school's arenas

There are several schools who have “gyms” that are light years ahead of ours, including Pittsburgh. Wisconsin’s is very nice as well.

We truly need to step it up and if the university is having trouble in the money area, they need to have our fundraising team make calls and say the funds will be specifically for the Pauley Renovation.

by Free the 16 on Jun 24, 2008 9:31 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

why can't they just do this

have it called “corporate sponsor name” center/arena at Pauley Pavilion?

'Toyota Center at Pauley Pavilion'
'Microsoft Arena at Pauley Pavilion'

by bruin95 on Jun 24, 2008 9:41 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I heard something along these lines a while back… I really would like to see the Pauley Pavilion name in some form. It’s a deep connection to our heritage and a powerful name in college basketball.

by impaulv on Jun 24, 2008 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's Wooden, not Pauley

I was at the opening game at Pauley, as were many geezers. I had gym classes shooting at those very baskets. I didn’t know who Mr. Pauley was at the time. (For a long time, the only Pauley I knew anything about was Pauley Gatto, the guy who set up Sonny Corleone.) I knew he was a Regent, but we undergrads didn’t know who the Regents were, other than that they were old and had it in their power to make us spend more to go to school.

But everyone knew who Coach was, and what he meant to the school. Ask the first 100 kids you see on Bruin Walk who Pauley was (or who Royce or Moore or Ackerman were) and you’ll draw blank stares. Ask those same kids if they know who Coach is, and they’ll all know unless their home planet is Neptune.

In my view, I don’t care who gets the naming rights, and I don’t care if the word Pauley is somehow lost out, notwithstanding the nice gesture by the family. But the legacy of that place is because of Coach, not because of a Regent who happened to have a ton of dough and wanted to have an ediface with his name on it. I would prefer something like “General Motors presents the Wooden Arena” or the Wooden Pavilion, inside of which is the John and Nell Wooden Court.

by Fox 71 on Jun 24, 2008 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wan't Pauley Rocky Balboa's brother-in-law?

..you know, like, “yo, Pauley, yo, Adrian..”

I hope the new name and renovation ends up being tasteful. Some of these contorted stadia/team names are truly laughable. The other day, at an Angels game, I pointed out an Anaheim policeman detailed to walk a beat on the field between innings. My friend informed, “That’s not an Anaheim policeman. That’s a Los Angeles Policeman of Anaheim.”

As for the renovation, while not to detract from all of those who rightfully lobby for a distinctive and appropriate edifice for the center of the college basketball universe, I’d rather have the Bruins play in Pauley as it is today than something like that creepy edifice over at Figueroa Tech.

Jeez! Is that place weird or what?

God, it's great to be a Bruin!

by WHP '68 on Jun 24, 2008 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Edwin Pauley

Fox 71, FYI, I went to a social function at his house with him in attendance, during my time at UCLA. He had a bowling alley and the house was(as I remember) on Sunset coming into Beverly Hills from UCAL.

Also, coincidentally, years ago on his family yacht over on Catalina for another social function (I must be a gad fly). On board they had a picture of the yacht leaving Morro Bay during a tsunami like storm, showing the waves breaking over the wheelhouse and taking it right off the top.
Bill

BillSouthBay

by Mensgym on Jun 24, 2008 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pauley

I didn’t know who Pauley was until the talk of renovation started up, but I’ve known what Pauley Pavillion was since I was a kid. Likewise I have no idea who Cameron was/is… wait, bad example… I have no idea who/what Fenway was/is, but I know the Red Sox play there.

Anyway, I’d think there’s a strong chance that some corporate sponsor wouldn’t mind having their name in conjunction with Pauley Pavilion name.

And I’d be remiss if I didn’t correct you on the name of the floor, since I believe it was the only way Coach would have it: Nell and John Wooden Court.

by haywood nighttrain on Jun 24, 2008 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I stand corrected.

(Actually, I sit corrected, but that sounds goofy.)

by Fox 71 on Jun 24, 2008 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fenway Park

is not named after a person, but rather for the district of Boston it is in.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jun 24, 2008 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought it was Inspector Fenway

of the RC Mounties. He was “Chief” to Dudley’s Max. Not sure when the Inspector had time to do a ball park in Boston, though.

See, I learned a lot besides my UCLA education.

by Bruinut on Jun 24, 2008 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rye is right

The field was built in the “Park” section of Boston, hence the name Fenway Park.

by Fox 71 on Jun 25, 2008 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't be afraid to turn the heat up

Just because we won’t be contributing large $s to the project should not be an excuse for shying away from keeping the heat on Morgan Center to get this project done sooner rather than later. There is no bigger, more important construction project ithat connects the campus with the outside world than renovating Pauley. Even the Hospital, despite the health system’s reputation, pales in comparison. When you think of UCLA, you think of Pauly Pavillion before you think of any other structure.

My biggest fear is that delays continue and we’re a decade into CBH’s tenure and he now feels compelled to use his voice to move the project along. I could just see CBH raising this as an issue in future contract negotiations, claiming the university isn’t living up to promises it made when it hired him. I hope it never gets to that.

Morgan Center has to hear and feel the frustration of the fans and supportors and this site has proven to be an excellent source for spurring on such discussions. We have just as much at stake as anyone, whether we pledge $10 or $10Million, to ensure this project gets completed without further delays. Getting this project completed post haste is essential to the long term success of our B-Ball program. While I”m not naive enough to think that the bigger the check you write the more influence and access you have, but our voices can be just as effective as two commas and 7 figures on a check, in helping ensure this project gets done without further delay.

Keep the heat on!!!

by Bald Eagle on Jun 24, 2008 11:05 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Apprehensive, but hopeful

I have to agree that I really won’t believe it until I see it, but I can’t help but hope that things will get rolling soon. I have a tremendous amount of faith in Guerrero knowing who and when to push for things, since he has proven himself to be a man that knows how to get things done. Sure, there has been some riskingtaking invovled in some hires, but I can’t argue with the success that he’s had as UCLA’s Athletic Director. Someday I will meet him and thank him for all that he’s done for UCLA Athletics.

Once things do get going, I would imagine that this project above all else will have the highest priority. Yes, even more than the hospital probably would if they were going on at the same time. Everyone wants to see this done, and be done right. I’m just glad that I’m not one of the people on the committee having to make the decisions about naming rights, changes/additions, etc.

by hiltigger on Jun 24, 2008 12:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

NO WAY that Howland leaves UCLA because of delays in the new Building

I just don’t see that happening. Howland didn’t say, “UCLA is my dream job if they get a new building”—its his dream job because of what was accomplished in the curent building. I hope renovations move forward a little faster, but I don’t think Howland will be a factor at all.

I wonder if one of the reasons that things are going slower with respect to renovations is that the Basketball Team has had such great recent success. One of the best reason for wanting to redo the arena is to make sure that UCLA remains competitive with other schools with respect to recruiting (and that is a good reason). However, with back-to-back-to-back final fours, you have to ask how important a new arena really is if the main reason is to stay competitive with recruits. We have had some huge recruiting classes under Howland, and that should continue. Sure there are other reasons-e.g, I would just plain enjoy going to the games more if the arena were nicer, and the school could probably rake in more dough with luxury boxes etc. But when those latter justifications become your main justifications (as opposed to the “trying to remain competitive” reason), its becomes harder to wipe out the historical landmark that so many, even today, still consider an icon-a reason alone to visit UCLA.

by rfirpo on Jun 24, 2008 1:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Slow pace

I suspect the slow pace has more to do with the lack of institutional will prior to Guerrero more recently, and sticker shock from the last architect’s initial plans, than success on the court. And, I would think (and hope) that a successful era in the sport would be precisely when the iron would be hot for a renovation. A hefty personnel seat license and additional “suggested” donation is somehow more palatable when you are winning 30 games a year. But, a certain malaise may have something to do with it.

by Menelaus on Jun 24, 2008 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If your raise it (money) he will come (new arena)

I just had to paraphrase that line from ‘Field of Dreams.’

There really is no greater obstacle to the completion of the new arena. And that is going to take some considerable donations from our Billionaire, Millionaire, and otherwise wealthy alumni and probably a little corporate money to boot. But, i would think a large corporation would cut the check sooner if they saw we could match or provide the majority of the budget.

I don’t see Howland leaving because of delays. There is more to UCLA than the building we play ball in. 3 straight final fours will do a lot more to get the recruits in the door than offering them a shiny new building to play in.

A coach is someone who can give correction without causing resentment. John Wooden

by MexiBruin on Jun 24, 2008 2:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Vicious circle

Sure, ultimately it’s about the money, but I think UCLA could have managed this project is a much more efficient way, thereby attracting that money. Instead, they’ve spent literally years trying to settle squabbles between interested parties, interspersed with interminable “quiet periods” when nothing really happened. Until they actually set upon a vision, and have something to show donors, the money probably won’t come (though it would be great if it did). In my view, the project has just been hopelessly mismanaged until, perhaps (let’s underline perhaps), more recently.

by Menelaus on Jun 24, 2008 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Delay ramifications

Although I think Coach will live forever, there is a chance that this project will take so long to get done He might not still be here to see it completed. That would truly be a shame consdering all that he has done for UCLA.

One of the corporate sponsors could be one of the companies that Wooden does commercials for. That would be a great tie in and would probably make it easier in the overall re-naming of the place.

by artybruin on Jun 24, 2008 2:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I am "They"

I would rather stay in the current Pauley Pav than a state of the art “Value City” – the name of the tOSU stadium. If Wooden is in my camp, I feel like I’m in pretty good company.

As for this comment “as much as we love him (Wooden), we can’t let him have too much say over the aesthetics of our new basketball environment,” get real. Do you really think he’s standing in the way of progress? Coach is the best fundraiser we’ve got. You want/need him in your corner.

I know you’re fired up, but I feel that’s a bit out of line.

by Nars on Jun 24, 2008 3:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Let me clarify ...

I don’t have a link or anything, but there was a lot of talk at one point along the following line:

Coach Wooden didn’t want anything to do with a new arena if it wasn’t called Pauley Pavilion. Therein lies a paradox. The University wants Coach Wooden involved in the new area, wants his approval so to speak and really would like the project finished during his lifetime so that he can be at the groundbreaking, etc. His buy in and approval is important.

But, they need corporate money to do the whole project and corporate money translates to a name change.

So, while I don’t think Coach Wooden is standing in anyone’s way (and you said it yourself, he’s a great fund raiser and you want/need him in your corner), if he were to disassociate himself from the project due to corporate money/a name change it would very much put a damper on things and possibly impact the project.

Coach Wooden is many things great. But he also wants to eliminate the slam dunk and the cross-over dribble—he isn’t always correct on matters of taste.

I’m glad you posted, because it gave me a chance to explain my remarks—we might disagree, but I’d prefer not to be out of line when it comes to Coach Wooden. I hope my answer helps explain my position.

Go Bruins

by Achilles on Jun 24, 2008 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And one more thing

In addition to agreeing with everything Achilles wrote, let’s remember that Wooden has/had a few notions about the construction of Pauley which may not necessarily be desirable in a renovated arena.

If I recall correctly, for example, he insisted on the seats being as far from the court as they are presently in order to accommodate a certain number of full-length practice courts. That’s all fine and good, and I take nothing away from Wooden, but I don’t want big empty “endzones” in the new stadium.

Again, his support is important, but let’s not over-emphasis the point.

by Menelaus on Jun 24, 2008 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wooden's concern

was less about having additional basketball space, and more about allowing Pauley to be a multi use venue. In particular, he wanted to make sure women’s gymastics could use the space and that other sports could also have access while he practiced. This is from people who were on the early “vetting” committee with regard to the facility’s re-design.

And I disagree, Rfirpo: In today’s world where coachs are constantly leaving or angling for competitive salaries, don’t be niave in thinking Howland’s agent will say (or have Howland say) almost anything to give them a negotiating edge. Especially when UCLA knows this is “his dream job”. He needs to create leverage and this is exactly the type of thing that could work in his favor. Sure, I believe he wants to stay, but there will be temptations and offers and if he decides to leave for “a new challenge” (whatever that is) UCLA not living up to its “promises”, could be a nice additional rationale for leaving. I hope and pray it doesn’t happen, but in today’s world, it is IMHO a reality we have to face.

by Bald Eagle on Jun 24, 2008 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right

You’re memory serves better than mine on this one.

by Menelaus on Jun 24, 2008 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm 100% with Coach on the dunk

It’s certainly a high percentage shot, but it’s boring. Plus, a person can’t dunk without finding it necessary to scream and thump his chest. Big deal. Is there anyone in D-1 basketball who can’t dunk the ball? It’s like sinking a one inch putt. Put the rim up at 12 feet, or re-institute the Walton Rule (i.e., get rid of the dunk) and the game would be much more interesting in my opinion.

I don’t know what Coach’s beef is with the cross-over dribble, but if his position is that it’s traveling, then I’m with him 100 percent. If all traveling were called, all the non-conference games would end up 8-6 while the guys learned how to play within the rules that Mr. Naismith invented. But then they would figure them out, and the game would have a lot more finesse. Basketball skills would be rewarded which in my view would favor UCLA because that’s what Coach Howland does – coach basketball skills.

Now, for those who don’t recognize me as a geezer, I’ll add the geezer logo. “Why, back in my day ….”

End of rant.

by Fox 71 on Jun 24, 2008 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to add an exception

You’re thinking of uncontested dunks making the one inch putt comparison. What I think about is the Russell Westbrook special: sizing up your opponent and climbing the ladder, throwing the ball down on some hapless Cal or Oregon chump. Some may say that “2 points is 2 points”, but I think that in the case of the Oregon game, the entire tone of the game changed. We were down about a half dozen points at that point of the game if I recall. A steal and layup doesn’t have the same impact on the emotion of the game as Westbrook’s pick and slam. The impact is intangible, so obviously I can’t prove that there’s a correlation between that and the fact that we came back to win the game, but we had played a relatively unremarkable game to that point, and I think Russ changed that with one (well, two actually) play(s).

by Tydides on Jun 24, 2008 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember the play

and indeed I was thinking about it when I wrote my rant.

But if the Walton rule had been in effect, he still would have had the point, he still could have yelled “Let’s go” and the crowd would still have gone bonkers. It’s the 6’10” Kimberly Noah uncontested dunk and the scream that would make Maria Sharapova jealous that gets on my nerves.

I am more aesthetically satisfied with a nice three-point shot than a dunk. I have a compromise. Count a dunk as one point. The breakaway steal reverse around the back tomahawk dunk for one point, and all the chest thumping. Lute the Coot would still teach that. Coach Howland would have our guys laying the ball off the glass. And I think the game would be prettier.

Frankly, I don’t see how you talk me out of my position on this, seeing as how I have the Ace of Trump (i.e., Coach Wooden) on my side.

by Fox 71 on Jun 25, 2008 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't believe I'd persuade you

But by the same token, I know it’s not going away, and that they aren’t going to outlaw it given that they have actual league sponsored contests glorifying this sort of thing. I’m saying that at least our team knows how to capitalize on it.

by Tydides on Jun 25, 2008 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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