Replacing Legendary Coaches
The following story moved on ESPN today. I'm going to present some key points in block quotes:
JACKSON, Miss. -- John Cohen is coming home to Mississippi State to win a national championship.
That was the message the former Bulldogs outfielder delivered to hundreds of fans who greeted him at news conferences in Starkville and Jackson on Saturday, a day after he resigned at Kentucky and took the job over the objection of former coach Ron Polk.
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Polk built Mississippi State into a powerhouse over three decades. When he announced his retirement in March, he endorsed his assistant, Tommy Raffo.
When incoming athletic director Greg Byrne made Cohen, and not Raffo, his first hire, Polk lashed out. He called the 36-year-old Byrne unqualified and said he will be taking his name off the stadium and the athletic department out of his will.
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Polk said Friday in an interview with The Associated Press that he asked Cohen not to move so Raffo, Cohen's former Bulldogs teammate under Polk from 1987-90, could get a shot at his first head coaching job. He threatened to actively work to dismantle key components of a program he helped build into one of the nation's best.
"I'm not totally ticked off at John," Polk said in a phone interview from Athens, Ga., where he is attending a super regional at Georgia. "This is not John. This is Greg Byrne. John felt like if he didn't take it, someone else would. I told John everything I was going to do and he still took the job. Boy, he must've really wanted it bad."
I'd like to make several points:
1 - I don't know anything about MSU baseball, other than what I just read and that Will Clark, the old Giants infielder played there.
2 - I think it is interesting that Polk, the outgoing coach, feels that the new coach, Cohen is "unqualified," considering he's had a great record at two schools and the assistant coach he wanted to promote, Raffo, has no head coaching experience.
3 - The real point I want to make is that it is always tough to replace the "legendary" coach. I wrote about the Arizona basketball situation here .
The details are different, but the attitude seems remarkably similar between Olson and Polk -- they know best and they don't care what anyone thinks and their success on the field/court means that they get to decide what happens in the future.
John Wooden, luckily, didn't wield the same sort of influence overtly, but it still took a very long time to find a replacement who could sustain the program. Jim Harrick came close, but never quite got over the top. It wasn't until Ben Howland came along that UCLA found a basketball coach who could basically sustain a top ten program.
The success that the "legend" creates also creates very high expectations for successors. It's a very tough thing ... when you think about it, Howland had it easier than other successors because Steve Lavin lowered the program so far that is was more of a rebuilding project than a sustaining project.
The other thing that I notice about Howland is that he's from outside the program entirely. Sure, he was a UCLA fan, but the program he brought in pays tribute to the past, but really does things his way. The shadow of John Wooden is simply shorter during the Howland era than it was during any other coach's tenure.
Interestingly, the first successor to John Wooden, Gene Bartow, was an outsider. If my theory is correct, that should have been the right move, but Bartow turned out to be the wrong guy. (And many people feel that an ex-Wooden assistant, Denny Crum, should have taken over for Wooden, so who knows?). But Larry Brown fit the outsider mold -- he even came from another legend's program -- and he had things going until his vagabond ways won out.
I guess deep down I'm a believer in going outside the program to hire coaches, especially when you are following a "legend." Continuity is not always the answer, but maybe someone who is there own person is?
As for Rick Neuheisel, I feel he's off to a great start in terms of hiring coaches and recruiting kids. His desire to return UCLA to some past greatness sort of confuses me, because I remain hopeful he can surpass whatever 'greatness" we've had to this point -- because we haven't won the title in over half a century.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of BruinsNation's (BN) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of BN's editors.
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Polk has the biggest ego possible
He helped college baseball along and did some wonderful things for the sport, but his huge ego has been an issue at times. This is one of the times where his ego is an issue and he went WAY too far. He said he was going to stop giving his time or money to the university, take the university out of his will, tell his former players to stop supporting the program and try to keep fans from supporting the program. The MSU AD did what he thought was best for the program and Polk can’t expect to step away and still control the program.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jun 9, 2008 2:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Believe me ...
Polk sounds like an ego-maniac.
That’s why he reminded me of Lute Olson and what prompted the post.
I wonder how much of that ego-mania helped make them successful in the first place? The belief that you are always right, the laser beam focus on winning … it’s like a coin with two side or (to paraphrase Thomas Harris) a stick that’s pointed on both ends.
The ego mania is acceptable to most when the program is winning or on a hot streak. It’s when fortunes change that ‘drive” becomes “ego-mania.”
Watch what happens when Joe Paterno and Bobby Bowden finally retire. I’ll predict right now that Penn State hires from within or a coach with Paterno ties and that Florida State goes outside the program—and if I’m right, Penn State won’t be successful post Paterno as the new coach is nothing more than hero-worshipping “Paterno-lite” while Florida State will return to past glories faster because they’ll bring in someone with no ties to the program.
(I have nothing against Penn State, btw. From this distance, they just seem more likely to try to carry on “tradition” than Florida State.)
Go Bruins
by Achilles on Jun 9, 2008 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I may be wrong
but I think when FSU brough Jimbo Fisher in to be the OC, it was understood that he would be in line for the head job when Bowden retires.
by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jun 9, 2008 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You probably are correct ...
I just didn’t know about it.
So, does Fisher qualify as “outside the program?” I guess not, since he is a Bowden assistant.
I’m wrong on that part of the prediction (which was based on nothing more than intuition)—assuming you’re right … which I do.
Go Bruins
by Achilles on Jun 9, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe thats been confirmed
but Jimbo had no ties to the florida state program before this past year, and was a successful OC at lsu for 5 or 6 years as well as a qb coach at auburn and cincinnati …I think Jimbo will obviously draw from some of Bowden’s philosophies, but I also think he has plenty of his own experience to bring to the table.
O.A.
by Ollie on Jun 9, 2008 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not OT
Given some of the recent discussions we have had wrt to our softball program.
by Nestor on Jun 9, 2008 6:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
FB History
CRN was QB during a streak where UCLA won 4 straight New Year’s games (3 Rose, 1 Fiesta). I would be very happy with that result again.
The notion that UCLA has not accomplished anything since 1954 seems overstated. The notion also that only winning the national championship counts as “great” sets the program up for disappointment.
We are happy with 3 straight final 4’s in BB. Why is it championship or nothing in FB?
by islandbruin on Jun 10, 2008 6:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Who said that?
A championship in football is incredibly difficult to achieve. Not only do you have to win nearly every game, but the pollsters have to like you too! I would be perfectly happy with BCS bowls or high quality bowls where, if we lose, we lose to quality teams…not BYU or Wyoming…
by tasser10 on Jun 10, 2008 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
From Main Posting Above
last line- “we haven’t won the title in over half a century”- hence my comment.
I agree with you, tasser. Rose Bowl really works for me. Other BCS or high quality also work. I would define high quality as New Year’s Day, assuming the new commissioner can do the right thing and get the Pac-10 back in the Cotton Bowl mix, or something equivalent.
by islandbruin on Jun 10, 2008 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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