Hello Bruin Nation: OC Register Has New UCLA Beat Writer / Blogger
Mark Saxon takes over today as the OC Register's UCLA beat writer and blogger.
He writes in his opening salvo:
After two seasons covering the happenings at USC, I’m moving west through the gridlock to cover the Bruins. I’ve done it before. Five years ago, I (below, right) switched from covering the Oakland A’s to covering the Angels when both teams fought for AL West supremacy and sometimes just fought. blog-photo-me.jpg
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Starting today, right here in this blog space, you can expect to find the latest news in UCLA sports along with some of the stranger developments that lap against the shores of Westwood. Once we’re up and running, it should be a one-stop, Middle Eastern bazaar where UCLA fans can load up on morsels of knowledge.
Some of the Register's columnists will also participate in the blog.
Here is the main link to the Register's UCLA blog.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of BruinsNation's (BN) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of BN's editors.
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I Don't Get It
Are there no sports reporters who went to UCLA?
Go to Saxon’s blog and you’ll see a lead picture of Mark Sanchez.
I don’t mind his prediction about where we will finish in the Pac 10—I do mind his statement that it will be “slick” if CRN wins 7 games.
He’s free to make whatever snarky comments he wants, but that’s not the way to get me to read his blog.
Bloggers like reporters have to earn their readers’ trust. He’s not off to a good start.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Jul 21, 2008 10:01 AM PDT 0 recs
Thought the exact same thing
Starts his first post by name calling the UCLA football coach. The guy is a Cal grad and as you noted there is not a single Bruin alum who will be posting on that “UCLA blog”
by bluestreet on
Jul 21, 2008 10:46 AM PDT
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Jeff Eisenberg at the Riverside Press-Enterprise
Covers basketball more than football, but he’s a UCLA grad.
by gilbert on
Jul 21, 2008 1:10 PM PDT
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Who runs these blogs?
Wouldn’t you think they would hire a guy that has some ties to UCLA whether it be as a fan or alum? Why throw up a Sanchez photo for his predictions when you should be throwing up a UCLA player. Afterall, it is a UCLA blog or is it? How hard is it for them to find 1 stinkin’ photo. Sheesh~ Oh and totally agree with the “slick” comment. Can’t he think of something more original. That thing is soooo~ played out. That roll call of alleged journalists is pretty pathetic. I wouldn’t mind if it was that guy that had no ties at all but the Cal cub & Toejams on it must go.
by BlueReign on Jul 21, 2008 12:35 PM PDT 0 recs
Why, Oh Why...
..would a Cal or Trojie grad even want to write a UCLA blog? It makes absolutely no sense at all.
Love My Bruins
by Bruingirl83 on Jul 21, 2008 1:54 PM PDT 0 recs
Missing the point?
To a certain extent, some of us are missing the point.
I would think the last criteria a newspaper would have when assigning beats is what school the reporter attended. I promise you, if you looked at the New York Times, none of the reporters assigned to covering Manhattan or Fordham or St. John’s went to those schools.
Reporters are (theoretically) hired because they are strong reporters or strong writers, hopefully both. Editors don’t care where they went to school, as long as it was a good school. At most papers, reporters aren’t even necessarily experts in the sport they cover. They are experts at being reporters. That’s why writers are moved from beat to beat. Brian Dohn used to be the Lakers writer (or maybe it was the Dodgers) - point being, he is not some great expert in college football or even football. He’s (supposedly) an expert at reporting. Kurt Streeter of the LA Times didn’t even cover sports before he became a sports columnist - he was general assignment.
So, there is very little chance that a reporter necessarily comes from the school they cover.
Scott Wolf of the DN is an SC grad who covers SC. IMO, that’s a mistake on the DN’s part. But, SC has the biggest journalism school in LA, it’s gonna happen that some of their grads cover SC.
For what it’s worth, Lonnie White played football at USC and he was one of the best UCLA beat writers I’ve read—knowledgeable in football and very fair.
On the other hand (and this is more important), newspapers are missing the point of blogs by asking their beat writers to write them. Because blog has a point of view and by asking your (supposedly) objective beat writer to write your blog, you’re really asking them to do a notes column online. Maybe a little of their perspective gets in, but mostly its notes and information without the opinions.
At the LA Times, their blog editor (Tony Pierce, who wrote “How to Blog” and whose blog (I think it is called BusBlog) is well done, hired Adam Rose to do the UCLA blog after Rich Perelman left. Rose went to SC, but I think he got the gig because he was blogging at LAist where Pierce was the editor. So, he got the job because he is a “blogger”—that is, he’s a skilled blogger, not necessarily a reporter or a UCLA fan.
I personally like what Rose does, though I don’t read it every day. For me, the downside of Rose is that because I’m a fan who really follows things closely, I think I know as much as he does, so there isn’t that much there for me. But if you didn’t read this site and some message boards, Adam probably has a lot of good, new information. I really don’t think Adam has done anything to suggest that because he went to SC, he is undermining UCLA in his blog.
Truth is, newspapers have not figured out what to do with blogs. Assigning their beat writers is probably not the way to go, but most aren’t going to hire a writer other than the beat writer to write a team blog. The Times is doing that, in fairness to them. But generally, newspaper blogs on sports teams don’t have a point of view, they try to be as objective as the reporting is, which isn’t always objective, but it tries to be.
If a paper’s coverage is more slanted to SC, I really believe that it is because they’ve decided that’s what sells papers, not because the editor or writer went to SC. Case in point, btw, is the way the LA Times covers the Dodgers and Angels. The Angels are a much better team with a way better record and way more exciting players, but the Times covers the Dodgers like they are the better team. That’s because the Dodgers are more popular and sell more papers.
The most important beats in LA are the Lakers and Trojan football. I’m positive of that. Coverage of those sports sells the most papers. So, they are going to get the coverage.UCLA basketball might be as good as Trojan football, but college hoops does not sell papers the way football does.
Anyways, I hope that no one takes this disagreement personally—I’m not trying to get in anyone’s face or anything, far from it. I just thought I’d come in with a different perspective.
Go Bruins
by Achilles on Jul 21, 2008 2:46 PM PDT 0 recs
Great point
There are some beat writers who do a great job of blogging, but it doesn’t usually work that way.
I don’t have a problem with the overwhelming majority of UCLA beat writers not being from UCLA, and Adam Rose has grown on me at What’s Bruin (though I still don’t agree with the decision to have him do both blogs.)
Good reporters will be good reporters—even if they don’t know about UCLA’s history and tradition, a good reporter will and should learn quickly.
by gilbert on
Jul 21, 2008 2:55 PM PDT
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Rose ...
good point about Rose doing both blogs.
That’s wrong and impractical.
Go Bruins
by Achilles on
Jul 21, 2008 2:59 PM PDT
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No need for MSM blogs
Thanks to the fantastic work of the front-page editors here at BN, I have absolutely no need for any MSM source when it comes to UCLA. BN has become my one-stop for all news re: UCLA sports. The coverage is not just more in-depth but is much more expansive than any MSM source, which I attribute to the vibrant community here at BN.
If only there was a blog as good as this for Man Utd, I’d be set. Shame SBN doesn’t have one.
As for the MSM blogs, whenever I go to one through a link on BN, I find the blogs are, well, not really blogs, but as A points out, just an running posting of their notes online. But since every MSM is throwing up a blog with some hack beat writer (usually with no familarity with UCLA or its programs), I suspect it’s due to MSM jealously of alternative information/media sources.
Or, in other words, the MSM is jealous of BN’s success (or at least, that’s what I like to think).
by norcald503 on Jul 21, 2008 3:08 PM PDT 0 recs
I think MSM ...
knows that the future is online and they aren’t sure what to do about. So, they are feeling their way along.
Their business model is to sell ads and subscriptions to a printed work. But printed works are slowly dying breed.
I don’t know if anyone saw the Buzz Bissnger rant on Bob Costas against the Deadspin guy. Bissinger (writes for the NYTimes, wrote Friday Night Lights) hates the blogs. Really, though, he’s threatened by them.
IMO—Both are necessary. You can’t dismess the MSM because even though standards have slipped, they still have much higher standards for accuracy than any blog. Accuracy is their currency. Most blogs don’t have fact checkers and the like, none that I know, anyway.
Just look at how many stories on this blog reference stories in the MSM. Without the MSM, we might not even be able to do this blog. Deadspin couldn’t exist without the MSM. There are many great political blogs, but even they are somewhat reliant on the MSM unearthing stories so that they have something to comment on.
Blogging is really perfect for college sports. Our readers are passionate and so are we. It’s a mutual thing. No one really wants to read a neutral blog. We read Dohn and whoever because he is providing stories for us to analyze and comment on. But he’s not really blogging in the traditional sense.
Go Bruins
by Achilles on
Jul 21, 2008 3:23 PM PDT
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I disagree with one of your points, A
In paraphrase, you say that the MSM must be accurate to keep its readers, so it has fact-checkers whereas blogs don’t. I will give you that some blogs don’t have fact-checkers, but the BN is not in that number. I know better than most that if I put up something as a fact and it’s wrong, I’ll get corrected twenty times in ten minutes. The BN is the only blog I get into, and it’s very fact specific and it’s very strong on accuracy. Sure there are opinions, but those opinions aren’t called facts.
It seems to me that the MSM labels things as “fact” and that simple act tends to turn them into “fact.” Take Streeter and his racism boondoggle. There are a zillion such examples of the MSM acting like Charles Foster Kane reporting on the events in Cuba.
The bottom line to me is that I have lost all respect for the MSM, and I don’t think I’m alone. MSM reporters are for the most part insulated from feedback and only get called out if they choose to be, i.e., if they choose to publish the letters from the readers. Blogsters, on the other hand, get instant feedback, and if posts which call them out on things get banned, then readers quickly become aware and disappear. As it turns out, I agree with the moderators probably 90% of the time on matters UCLA. But when I disagree and shoot out my criticism, there is a healthy exchange and the upshot of it all is that both sides of the disagreement are forced to sharpen their thinking or – gasp – one side might change his mind. I have yet to encounter that phenomenon in the MSM. They seem to have the perception that they were born correct, have a God-given right to be correct all the time, will always be correct until the cows come home, and have no time for any upstarts who want to challenge them.
And all that makes me thing that UCLA deserves a blog done by a Bruin for Bruins. Oh, wait. We already have that. I guess that means there is yet another MSM guy who I will read about when someone posts something he says here.
by Fox 71 on
Jul 21, 2008 4:00 PM PDT
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I'm not saying the MSM is unnecessary...
...just their wannabe blogs. I perfectly understand the reason they’re throwing their crappy blogs up so fast is that they’re hoping to tap into the vast blogging community and use that as another source of revenue.
My point was (well, is) that I have zero need for the MSM blogs. BN is my source for news, not because you guys generate it, but rather, BN does a great job of running throughout the internet, gathering all of these interesting Bruin news tidbits, and putting it together in one, easy-to-find location.
Yes, the MSM is necessary. They’re the “professional journalists” who go out and report the stories. They’re great for running around, talking to three wealthy and influential alumni, talking to coaches, players, and “sources.” We need them for that.
What I don’t need them for, and thus why I have no interest in their blogs, is their analysis. I need the MSM for just the facts and nothing more. They write the stories, BN gathers up the Bruin-related stories, then de-constructs it and re-builds the information in a logical, analytically-sound way.
As for accuracy, I think Fox is right. The MSM is self-censoring. The blogosphere is open to criticism from anyone, anywhere, and usually, that criticism is placed on the same page as the article/opinion being critized. Imagine getting that kind of parity with the MSM on one of their pages. Never will happen.
The free exchange of ideas is necessary not just for a free society, but for promoting accuracy in this information age. As long as the MSM is controlled by a handful of individuals, it will always be susceptible to manipulation and inaccuracy.
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Jul 21, 2008 6:19 PM PDT
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