Going Meta: Blogs And Traditional Media's Coverage of UCLA
This started out as a response in a fan post, but I wanted to build on that discussion with a front page blog post. There are some good comments there as well, so if you're interested in this topic, you might want to check that thread out, too. Here is what I wrote (with maybe a little editing and polishing):
I would think the last criteria a newspaper would have when assigning beats is what school the reporter attended. I promise you, if you looked at the New York Times, none of the reporters assigned to covering Manhattan or Fordham or St. John’s went to those schools. And, I think it is obvious that in some smaller, college-type towns, graduates of said college or university are going to work for the local paper. But Los Angeles is a big metropolitan with several newspapers and universities and so it's not going to be the case here.
Reporters are (theoretically) hired because they are strong reporters or strong writers, hopefully both. Editors don’t care where they went to school, as long as it was a good school. At most papers, reporters aren’t even necessarily experts in the sport they cover. They are experts at being reporters. That’s why writers are moved from beat to beat. Brian Dohn used to be the Lakers writer (or maybe it was the Dodgers) - point being, he is not some great expert in college football or even football. He’s (supposedly) an expert at reporting. Kurt Streeter of the LA Times didn’t even cover sports before he became a sports columnist - he was general assignment.
So, there is very little chance that a reporter necessarily comes from the school they cover.
Scott Wolf of the DN is an SC grad who covers SC. IMO, that’s a mistake on the DN’s part. But, SC has the biggest journalism school in LA, it’s gonna happen that some of their grads cover SC. I fairness to Wolf, it's not clear to me that he's necessarily favoring SC with his coverage -- if you look at some of the "wilder" message boards, Wolf is oft-criticized by Trojan fans.
For what it’s worth, Lonnie White played football at USC and he was one of the best UCLA beat writers I’ve read—knowledgeable in football and very fair.
On the other hand (and this is more important), newspapers are missing the point of blogs by asking their beat writers to write them. Because blog has a point of view and by asking your (supposedly) objective beat writer to write your blog, you’re really asking them to do a notes column online. Maybe a little of their perspective gets in, but mostly its notes and information without the opinions.
At the LA Times, their blog editor (Tony Pierce, who wrote “How to Blog” and whose blog (I think it is called BusBlog) is well done, hired Adam Rose to do the UCLA blog after Rich Perelman left. Rose went to SC, but I think he got the gig because he was blogging at LAist where Pierce was the editor. So, he got the job because he is a “blogger”—that is, he’s a skilled blogger, not necessarily a reporter or a UCLA fan.
I personally like what Rose does, though I don’t read it every day. For me, the downside of Rose is that because I’m a fan who really follows things closely, I think I know as much as he does, so there isn’t that much there for me. But if you didn’t read this site and some message boards, Adam probably has a lot of good, new information. I really don’t think Adam has done anything to suggest that because he went to SC, he is undermining UCLA in his blog.
Truth is, newspapers have not figured out what to do with blogs. Assigning their beat writers is probably not the way to go, but most aren’t going to hire a writer other than the beat writer to write a team blog. The Times is doing that, in fairness to them. But generally, newspaper blogs on sports teams don’t have a point of view, they try to be as objective as the reporting is, which isn’t always objective, but it tries to be.
If a paper’s coverage is more slanted to SC, I really believe that it is because they’ve decided that’s what sells papers, not because the editor or writer went to SC. Case in point, btw, is the way the LA Times covers the Dodgers and Angels. The Angels are a much better team with a way better record and way more exciting players, but the Times covers the Dodgers like they are the better team. That’s because the Dodgers are more popular and sell more papers.
The most important beats in LA are the Lakers and Trojan football. I’m positive of that. Coverage of those sports sells the most papers. So, they are going to get the coverage.UCLA basketball might arguably be as good as Trojan football, but college hoops does not sell papers the way football does.
The newspapers in this town are flawed. The Daily News and its sister papers are being dismantled by their owner and the Times is laying off and buying our reporters left and right. No one knows how to monetize the online situation and therefore they are struggling with what to do about blogs and other online content.
But I don't think their flaws are rooted in any bias nor do I think the education of the writers and editors are impacting content -- subjective or otherwise.
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I will say that success builds fan bases. When a fan base is grows enough, coverage increases. So if BH can bring home a title or even extend the team’s Final Four streak, then coverage would increase at LAT and probably ESPN as well.
by Deepcut on
Jul 22, 2008 2:20 PM PDT
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I seriously have no idea what the Times is trying to do
I believe it is clear that they favor SC in their sports coverage. But if they are truly trying to cater to the SC crowd, seems to me their paper’s political coverage would look more like the Orange County Register.
So I am not sure I am going with the “trying to sell papers” argument, at least where the Times is concerned. Along with the fact that the paper’s quality has gone down, they have had this weird “disconnect” for as long as I can remember. In this day of “pick a side” journalism, the Times really needs to define who it is they are going after.
by Free the 16 on
Jul 22, 2008 2:22 PM PDT
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UCLA/USC coverage
The reality is that even if by some miracle Neuheisel turns around UCLA football immediately and goes to a three Rose Bowls in a row, USC will still be a bigger story.
Just look at the Dodgers and Angels—the Angels have been the better team for six years now, and still play second fiddle.
by gilbert on
Jul 22, 2008 2:55 PM PDT
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It's not important where writers or bloggers went to school
but it is important that they bring something to the table that attracts readers—in print or online.
I don’t think Dohn is a capable reporter or blogger. No need to cover that ground, again; I’ve made my case for the past couple of years. I don’t go to his site.
As to the new guy at the Register, I don’t care if he was educated by Senora Rosa so long as he presents credible information in a way I want it. If it does not please me, I won’t go there. One less reader for their advertisers.
In my mind, he started so poorly with his Sanchez picture and snarky comment about CRN that I won’t go back unless he starts doing things so well that people around here start praising him to the point I become curious.
I went there once, saw crap, and won’t go back. It has nothing to do with where he went to school and everything to do with the way he writes about my school.
sjh
by Class of 66 on
Jul 22, 2008 3:19 PM PDT
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Once again sjh hits the nail on the head
I have looked at some of the things Doh! has said, and based on the content of his writing I don’t visit his site. It’s not that I want to deprive him of a click, it’s just that it’s not worth the effort. From what I have seen here (i.e., when people quote what Doh! has said), I don’t think he’s a particularly good reporter. He makes mistakes of course, because he’s human. But he won’t admit them, and in fact tries to cover up blatantly biased reporting. We saw that in connection with his fixation on keeping that guy who masqueraded as a coach in place. I think Doh! has earned his name, because he seems to me to be about as deep as Homer Simpson. (My apologies, Homer.)
Why is there so little traffic at so many blogs? They’re not interesting. (I can tolerate only so much badinage between teenagers.) Why is there always something going on here? The moderators play a big part, of course, but the give and take between the readers is interesting.
Wnen something is not interesting, or wrong, or puerile or just plain stupid, I’m not going to waste my time and my precious clicking finger going there. I’ll read what sjh writes here instead.
by Fox 71 on
Jul 23, 2008 7:22 PM PDT
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The LA Times UCLA "blog" is a JOKE
R. Perelman wrote like he cared about UCLA. Adam Rose writes like an undereducated Trojan who doesn’t give a rat’s posterior about UCLA. That page has become totally irrelevant as you can see from the lack of comment traffic there. The LA Times has become a joke, not just that page. But it is typical of their long-standing pro-Southern Cal bias that they hire a Trojan to write that blog. But this whole exercise is a huge waste of time. Really, blogging about sports… get out there and play. Go the the games. Support the team. IF YOU CARE ABOUT THE TEAM THAT IS. Which takes me back to my point about Adam Rose, Trojan Hack.
by UCLA Bruin on
Jul 22, 2008 3:59 PM PDT
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The reason Rich Perelman wrote like he cared was because he did...
I know Rich. He is a UCLA passionate alumnus. For years he volunteered as a scorekeeper for basketball and an on the field guy for track. The current guy is a Trojan and writes like it. Simple as that.
by waters96 on
Jul 23, 2008 2:42 PM PDT
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Knowledge of the Sport
I would rather have a writer who is knowledgable of the sport he/she is reporting rather than a supporter of the team reported. If they support the team it may lead to pandering (as to opinions) to the sympathies of the readers (to get readers.) Who needs it ? If they show knowledge of the sport then I feel I am getting relevant, objective information and opinions with some validity.
I feel Brian Dohn knows the sports he is reporting. He is admittitley not necesarily a UCLA supporter. But that is called for, for his professional standing. He is a better writer if he is not., even if he administers a UCLA bog. He is candid. OK.
As to the Times covering more USC news I don’t have the experience to know. During the season I have used the UCLA in the Media link on the Official Site. It did seem that the OC Register, Press Enterprise and Daily News each ran more articles on the Bruins than the Times. I have not been reading the USC news – but probably will -some. The Times has good links on their “blog” to other sources. So the blog is a good news source.
Hey I go everywhere to get Bruin football and basketball news.
by northbaybruin on
Jul 22, 2008 6:25 PM PDT
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UCLA in the news
Northbay,
If you want to read the latest on the Bruins, set up a Google news alert. Then you can see who reports on the Bruins more and get the latest updates without any filtering by an intermediary web site. I routinely see quite a bit by Breeze, OC Register, LA Times from the LA press, plus BN. Also, the VC Star and Palisadian Post, & Long Beach Press. IMHO LA Times writes as much as BN on the basketball program.
by Deepcut on
Jul 23, 2008 10:14 AM PDT
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Belated Response
Thanks Deepcut.
I will do all of that.
I have an RN alert on Yahoo. Just did not think to do more of them.
by northbaybruin on
Jul 23, 2008 11:59 AM PDT
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IF YOU THINK LONNIE WHITE WAS GOOD, TURN IN YOUR READING GLARSES
Lonnie White was one of the most inept, poorly researched “beat” writers UCLA was ever forced to suffer through. Where were you when Lonnie:
1. Wrote a whole profile on Spencer Havner as a senior, mentioning he made
“2nd Team Pac 10” ...somehow “leaving out” he’d made All-American as a junior…
2. Wrote “UCLA kicker “Aaron Perez” as “Aaron Garcia” and never corrected it.
3. After Dorrell’s 10-2 season, Lonnie wrote “UCLA has never had good seasons following a 10-2 season..” If “Lonnie” had cared to looked, UCLA had followed 10-2
seasons in 1997 and 1987 with ….another “10-2 season”...
There were always curious subtle omissions and daming with faint praise in his
writings about UCLA. There were also real concerns that, as one of “sucks finest”.
Lonnie might actually be feeding confidential sc gameplan information to his condom
brothers via his privileged position as UCLA “beat” writer…
Notice even the Times thought he was so pathetic, he’s been relegated to the dregs writing about gambling lines this past year. Yeah, he was one of the finest….
Thanks for playing…
=Diane Pu-cin
by MANTIS9 on
Jul 23, 2008 12:54 PM PDT
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Forget Meta More Mata
I need more LMR coverage on BN. At first glance I thought this fanpost was about basketball.
by alcor805 on
Jul 24, 2008 11:39 AM PDT
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