No Rush Re. Home & Home Jersey
I wrote in last post about Neuheisel not giving his peers in the Pac-10 anything to work with. Obviously lot of people in this town are already obsessed over the Neuheisel v. Carroll angle. Apparently Neuheisel has a good public relationship with Carroll.
And they both want UCLA and Southern Cal to be wearing their home jerseys in the last game. Apparently there has been a hiccup in the home and home jersey plan:
"The rules, right now, make it a little tenuous because you have to forfeit a timeout,'' Neuheisel said. "We were both of the mind that you only had to forfeit a timeout in the first half, but we were told that we would have to forfeit a timeout in both halves, and that's a little scary in a game that matters that much."
Neuheisel said the only way it would work was if the Pac-10 ruled it would have to forfeit a timeout only in the first half.
"My guess is we're going to get turned down,'' Neuheisel said. "But hopefully it isn't that far off because the game should be that way."
Apparently it is up to ole Tom Hansen:
"Mr. Hansen (Pac-10 commissioner Tom Hansen) decides whether or not he wants to let that happen," UCLA's Rick Neuheisel said. "He may ask for permission from the NCAA. I don't know.
"Hopefully it isn't far off. It should be that way, both teams wearing their home jerseys, a classic game, like when we were kids. I look forward to having it go back to that."
Even though I think this is a cool idea, it’s not the biggest issue in my mind. Also I think if this were to happen, we should start this next year when we visit the Coliseum. Once our guys get to wear our blue on their home turf, they can wear their home jerseys when they come back in 2010. For now though, there is no reason for anyone to lose sleep over it.
GO BRUINS.
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Pretty disappointing
Be forewarned, this is going to be a bit long.
I know this isn’t a make-or-break proposition for the program, but I was really looking forward to seeing the teams pick up the home-and-home tradition. Besides being a neat tradition, it just looks really cool.
I know I’ve mentioned before one of the ways, in my opinion, that European football (soccer for my football-adverse American brethren) is superior/different than American sports.
I think these strict uniform rules again illustrate how, in at least one way, Europe got it right. In professional football, there’s no requirement that one team wear white or some specified color when on the road. Here, every major sport has such a rule:
MLB: Home whites, away grays (except for SD with their sand aways), and colored alternates
NFL: Home colors, away whites (with some exceptions, but one team must be in white)
NBA: Home whites (except for LA with yellow), away colors
NCAA FB: Same as NFL
NCAA BB: Same as NBA
It’s such a strict regiment. On one hand, we’re so used to, you can instantly tell by a quick glance at the TV screen who is at home, who’s away, and if you’re really on the ball, what day of the week it is (Lakers wear white on Sundays, MLB teams wear colored alternates on Sunday).
Now, don’t get me wrong. I understand why we have such rules. First, it helps players quickly identify who is on their team and who isn’t. That’s kind of crucial. Second, it give the teams/schools a chance to sell not one, but two (and sometimes three) different jerseys to the fan base. Don’t ever underestimate the drive to merchandise and sell crap to fans.
But both reasons aren’t compelling enough to erect an absolute bar to allowing something like the CRN-Cheety Peety revival of the home-and-homes.
As for the first reason, being able to quickly identify your teammates (and to a lesser extent, for fans to identify which team is which), I’m sure some of you older BN’ers have kids who play or played youth soccer, Little League, Pop Warner, etc. Now, when I was a kid (about 15-20 years ago), in every sport I played, we got one uniform. Just one. No home. No away. Just one uniform. Whoever was in charge of coordinating uniforms made sure every team ended up with a different color uniform. I’m pretty sure nothing has changed since.
So, it seems reasonable that if 5-10 year old kids can wear colored uniforms and be able to tell who is on their team and who isn’t, that professional athletes, grown men and women, should be able to do the same. In fact, professional athletes have already proven it can be done: those of you who caught the UEFA CL final saw United, in their famous reds, put Chelsea, in their blues, to the sword. If a bunch of guys, who all don’t even share the same first language (Utd’s starting eleven that night includes a Dutchman, a Frenchman, a Serbian, six Englishmen, an Argentine, and a Portugese), can wear colored uniforms against another team wearing colored uniforms and not have problems, there’s no reason it can’t be done here.
But, what of the second reason? Surely, American owners will be reluctant to give up such a regime since it guarantees multiple uniforms and thus, expanding merchandising opportunities. Again, that shouldn’t be a problem. I’m going to again borrow Man Utd (which if you can’t tell by now, is my team of choice) as an example. Utd has an estimated 330+ million supporters. By comparison, the Census Bureau estimates the U.S. has a current population of around 304,712,000+ as of the date I post this.
So, one would think United, being a large club, owned by Americans (the Glazer family, who also owns the TB Bucs), would engage in the same kind of uniform merchandising that is done in the U.S. And, well, they do. In fact, Utd just unveiled both a new away kit (soccer’s word for uniform) (which is rather ugly in my opinion) and a new third alternate uniform (which is okay, I suppose). Nike (who makes Utd’s uniforms) and the Glazers are pulling out all the stops in an all-out war to merchandise, just like they do here in the States for our teams. And, English fans, being much more die-hard than their American counterparts (except for maybe the Raider Nation), will, of course, comply and buy up these other uniforms, despite the fact, and this is key, United wear their “home” reds every game, except for when they are away and the opposing team also wears home red or a shade close to red (Liverpool, Arsenal, West Ham, Aston Villa).
To be short: United has no problem merchandising their away and third kits, despite the fact that Utd only wear them when necessary (unlike American teams which wear a jersey for, at max, only half of their games). Barcelona, Arsenal, Chelsea, AC Milan, Inter all do the same: wearing their traditional “home” kit in every game, except when they travel and the home team has something similar. And none of those guys are suffering merchandising shortfalls.
So, when you look at the two main reasons American sports impose the uniform restrictions, it just doesn’t fly. And most importantly, it stifles traditions like ours with U$C. And it’s kind of stupid that such strict rules don’t have exceptions for situations like this. For example, there is nothing cooler, I think, than watching the Manchester derby, with United in red and City in their light blue.
But, I suspect we won’t see mustard-and-ketchup in the Rose Bowl or our blue and gold in the Mausoleum. Why? Because the NCAA and Pac-10 are running the show and when have they ever done anything that makes any damn sense?
by norcald503 on Jul 26, 2008 1:43 PM PDT 0 recs
I've always liked the way soccer does it
The reason that such rules exist in the US about one team wearing white is because of TV. When the rule was made there was only black and white TV and one team needed to wear white so viewers could differentiate between the two teams. Black and white TV is why refs wear black and white striped shirts too. It’s an antiquated rule, but it’s become tradition here. I wish they’d change it though.
by ryebreadraz on
Jul 26, 2008 2:17 PM PDT
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Interesting
I never considered the TV angle (which I suppose I should have given the recent post on Coach Sanders and our own uniforms).
I agree though, given that TV is no longer a problem and the other two reasons for the continuation of the system don’t hold up, there’s no reason to change it.
Except the powers-to-be in the American sports world never do what makes sense.
by norcald503 on
Jul 26, 2008 2:34 PM PDT
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norcal ...
You have to put this kind of material in a stand alone post in the FanPost section. Too good to bury it in comment threads.
by Nestor on
Jul 26, 2008 2:37 PM PDT
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Done and done
I expanded my comment a bit. Got a bit image happy. Hope that isn’t a problem.
by norcald503 on
Jul 26, 2008 6:39 PM PDT
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It's all good ...
As long as you are crediting the image source … we should be ok. If someone has a problem (per our disclaimer) ... he or she can email us … and we can take it down. As long as we are crediting the source … it should be ok.
by Nestor on
Jul 27, 2008 10:30 AM PDT
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Question
Was the tradition of wearing the home color uniforms when both teams played at the Coliseum? This would make sense in that it was technically home for both teams at the time. I suppose they could have rotated who was “home” and who was “away” on an annual basis but for some reason those who managed the game did not.
As far as giving in to our wish, I think the NCAA will not allow it first, because other teams will then want to play in their home colors for classic rivalry games. I’m sure we are not the only two teams that have shared a stadium or some other circumstance that necessitated using dual home uniforms. For instance, back in the day of the good old rivalry between Harvard and Yale, I’m sure they didn’t have “home” and “away” uniforms.
I think they should allow our awesome True Blue and Gold to do battle with those other guys with their horrible ketchup and mustard ensemble. The other side wants it, we want it, everyone wants it. The sad fact of the matter is that the NCAA is probably not in a charitable mood when it comes to $C right about now.
by Bruins102NCAA on Jul 27, 2008 5:57 AM PDT 0 recs
I would sell this to NCAA as follows
the UCLA/USC matchup is the only game in NCAA football where two division 1 major conference teams in the same city play each other. To commerrate the uniqueness of this inter-city rivalry being a home game for both teams, allowing both teams to wear their home jerseys should be a non-issue.
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Jul 28, 2008 11:51 AM PDT 0 recs
Ahh, yes. The logical approach
The ncaa (no caps to their acronym until it’s deserved) is a logic-driven entity. They have no problem sentencing our guys to 8 1/3 to 25 for a bag of groceries, and not finding anything wrong with justsc for [insert lengthly list here.] Something tells me that the logical approach won’t work. Maybe we just put on our home uniforms and tell the refs (the ncaa local enforcers) that we knew nothing about it, or that those uniforms are actually white, or that it was the team’s parents who lived in the house - I mean, picked the uniforms - and the athletic department had no idea, or that there should be no problem because the uniforms were purchased on a Sickel Cell Foundation credit card.
Yeah. The logical approach. That should work with the ncaa.
by Fox 71 on
Jul 29, 2008 8:57 AM PDT
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