Looking Ahead: Football Depth Next Season and Beyond - Offense
Bumped. GO BRUINS. -N
As part of my two-part series on looking forward at our football team's depth this season and the two following seasons, this is the section for those wanting a break-down of the offensive side of the ball (which will include our kicker/punter situation simply because a whole special teams section would be kind of dumb, and they technically step on the field on offense).
Anyway, again I think having this kind of information broken down will give us some perspective to gauge how our recruiting efforts are shaping up, see where we're going to need to get help down the line, and touch off a bit of discussion.
Also, this run-through is a bit more broken down than the defensive run-through simply because the offense doesn’t lend itself to a neat, three-part grouping as the defense does.
And once again, to make it a bit easier to sort, I've broke each group up into separate block quote sections:

OFFENSE
QUARTERBACK
'08-'09
QB1: Ben Olson (RS SR)
QB2: Kevin Craft (RS JR)
QB3: Chris Forcier (RS FR)Reserves: Osaar Rasshan (RS JR); Patrick Cowan (RS SR – Out for Season)
Incoming Freshmen/Transfers: Kevin Craft (RS JR, JC Transfer - 5 stars by Scout); Nick Crissman (4 stars, #9 by Scout); Kevin Prince (3 stars, #40 by Scout)
Notes: Patrick Cowan is out for the season and will apply for a sixth year of eligibility to return in ’09-’10. Kevin Craft is a transfer from Mount San Antonio College (via SDSU). Osaar Rasshan was transitioned to WR under KD and switched back last season in response to injuries/ineffectiveness to/from Ben Olson, Pat Cowan, and McLeod Bethel-Thompson.
'09-'10 (7 total scholarship players)
QB1: Cowan (RS SR)
QB2: Craft (RS SR)
QB3: Forcier (RS SO)Reserves: Rasshan (RS SR); Crissman (RS FR or SO); Prince (RS FR or SO)
Incoming Freshmen/Transfers: Richard Brehaut (4 stars, #13 by Scout)
Notes: This assumes that Cowan will be able to obtain another year of eligibility. If he can’t expect Craft to be the likely starter with Forcier and Crissman most likely to be the top back-up. Brehaut is highly touted but unlikely to break into the starting line-up his freshman year.
'10-'11 (4 scholarship players):
QB1: Forcier (RS JR)
QB2: Crissman (RS SO or JR)
QB3: Brehaut (RS FR or SO)Reserves: Prince (RS SO or JR)
Notes: In two seasons’ time, the QB position will be wide-open, with Forcier, Crissman, and Brehaut all possible starters. Prince, with a strong showing either during the previous season or going into camp before ’10-’11 could break into the mix. If Norm Chow’s instincts on Brehaut play out as they have before, the job could be his by a long-shot.
ASSESSMENT: While we have really good depth at QB this season and next, this year’s QBs are learning an entirely new system, with starter Olson working for yet another offensive coordinator. As great as NC is as an OC, expect growing pains as Olson gets acclimated with Chow’s offense. Long-term, we look set at QB, with Crissman and Brehaut likely to run the Bruins offense in a few seasons. Going into ’10-’11, the Bruins will only have 4 QBs, so look for CRN and NC to bring in some new signal-callers in the Class of ’10. By not offering Nunes and Brehaut, it seems to indicate CRN and NC will wait until ’10 to bring in more depth.
RUNNING BACKS
'08-'09 (10 total scholarship players):
HB1: Kahlil Bell (SR)
HB2: Raymond Carter (RS FR)
HB3: Chane Moline (JR)
HB4: Christian Ramirez (JR)
FB1: Trevor Theriot (RS JR)
FB2: Tobi Umodu (RS SO)Reserves: Craig Sheppard, HB (RS JR) (Non-Scholarship); Robert McCurdy, HB/FB (RS FR) (Non-Scholarship)
Incoming Freshmen: Aundre Dean, HB (4 stars, #6 by Scout); Milton Knox, HB (4 stars, #30 by Scout); Johnathan Franklin, HB (3 stars, #55 by Scout); Derrick Coleman, FB (3 stars, #3 by Scout)
Notes: The above assumes Dean, Knox, and Franklin will not break into the rotation this season; at the minimum, expect Dean and Knox to get some significant time, likely slotting in between Carter and Moline. Also, both Bell and Carter are returning from missing significant time with injury. Umodu has made the conversion from LB to FB this season, so expect Coleman to press for time should Theriot go down with injury.
'09-'10 (9 total scholarship players)
HB1: Carter (RS SO)
HB2: Dean (RS FR or SO)
HB3: Knox (RS FR or SO)
HB4: Ramirez (SR)/Moline (SR)
FB1: Theriot (RS SR)
FB2: Umodu (RS JR)/Coleman (RS FR or SO)Reserves: Franklin, HB (RS FR or SO); Ramirez, HB (SR)/Moline, HB/FB (SR); Umodu, FB (RS JR)/Coleman, FB (RS FR or SO); Sheppard, HB (RS SR) (Non-Scholarship); Robert McCurdy, HB/FB (RS SO) (Non-Scholarship)
Incoming Freshmen: No current commits for the Class of ‘09
Notes: Dean and Knox, if they live up to their billing, should be getting significant time. Carter was a highly touted recruit but has been hampered by injury. Only Bell will graduate.
'10-'11 (7 scholarship players):
HB1: Carter (RS JR)
HB2: Dean (RS SO or JR)
HB3: Knox (RS SO or JR)
HB4: Franklin (RS SO or JR)
FB1: Umodu (RS SR)
FB2: Coleman (RS SO or JR)Reserves: Robert McCurdy, HB/FB (RS JR) (Non-Scholarship)
Notes: The above assumes that there will be no additional running back recruits brought in with either the Class of ’09 or the Class of ’10. Expect CRN and NC to bring in additional depth with the Class of ’09 and/or Class of ’10.
ASSESSMENT: Our running back corps will be the strength of our offense this season. With Ben Olson learning a new system behind a weakened and thin offensive line, look for NC to utilize our depth and quality at RB to maximum advantage. Bell is a proven talent and Carter, Dean, and Knox are all highly touted. Our RB corps should be deep again the following season, but look for NC and CRN to bring in more talent by the ’10-’11 season, although Carter, Dean, and Knox give us a solid core of young talent to build our offense around for at least three seasons.
WIDE RECEIVERS AND TIGHT ENDS
'08-'09 (14 total scholarship players):
WR (SE1): Dominique Johnson (RS SO)
WR (SE2): Gavin Ketchum (RS JR)
WR (FL1): Marcus Everett (RS SR)
WR (FL2): Terrence Austin (JR)
TE1: Logan Paulsen (SR)
TE2: Ryan Moya (RS JR)Reserves: Ryan Graves, WR (SE) (RS SR); Jamil Turner, WR (FL) (RS JR); Nate Chandler, TE (RS FR)
Incoming Freshmen: Taylor Embree, WR (FL) (FR Early Enrollee – C/O ’07, 1 star, NR by Scout); Nelson Rosario, WR (4 stars, #41 by Scout); Antwon Moutra, WR (4 stars, #43 by Scout); Jerry Johnson, WR (3 stars, #57 by Scout); Cory Harkey, TE (3 stars, #47 by Scout)
Notes: Marcus Everett returns after obtaining an extra year of eligibility following season-ending injury last season. Ryan Moya returns after a season-ending injury last season.
'09-'10 (11 total scholarship players)
WR (SE1): Johnson (RS JR)
WR (SE2): Ketchum (RS SR)
WR (FL1): Austin (SR)
WR (FL2): Embree (SO)
TE1: Moya (RS SR)
TE2: Chandler (RS SO)Reserves: Turner, WR (FL) (RS SR); Rosario, WR (RS FR or SO); Moutra, WR (RS FR or SO); Johnson, WR (RS FR or SO); Harkey, TE (RS FR or SO)
Incoming Freshmen: No current commits for Class of ‘09
Notes: Highly touted TE Chandler should break into the offense on two-TE sets once Paulsen graduates.
'10-'11 (7 scholarship players):
WR (SE1): Johnson (RS SR)
WR (SE2): Rosario (RS SO or JR)
WR (FL1): Embree (JR)
WR (FL2): Moutra (RS SO or JR)
TE1: Chandler (RS JR)
TE2: Hackey (RS SO or JR)Reserves: Johnson, WR (RS SO or JR)
Notes: Depth at WR and TE will be thin following the graduations of Ketchum, Austin, Turner, and Moya.
ASSESSMENT: Marcus Everett returning will be a huge boost to the wide receiving corps, which has good depth, but not a lot of experience (3 starts combined of all other WRs in ’07-’08 season). Depth should not be an issue in the wide receiving corps, until the ’10-’11 season, where depth will be thin due to graduation. TE is another area of strength for the offense this season, with both Paulsen and Moya experienced. Chandler was highly-touted coming out of HS and should be a solid starter in the future for the Bruins. Embree has been impressive in this year’s spring camp; Rosario should provide height at WR in the future.
OFFENSIVE LINE
'08-'09 (16 total scholarship players):
LT: Micah Kia (JR)
LG: Darius Savage (RS SO)
C: Micah Reed (RS SR)
RG: Scott Glicksberg (RS SR)/Nick Ekbatani (RS JR)
RT: Mike Harris (RS FR)Reserves: Brandon Bennett, LT (RS SO); Sonny Tevaga, LG (RS SO); Aaron Meyer, LG (RS SR); Jake Dean, C (RS SO); Adam Heater, C (RS JR); Glicksberg, RG (RS SR)/Ekbatani, RG (RS JR); Andy Keane, RG (RS SO); Sean Sheller (RS SO – Out for Season)
Incoming Freshmen/Transfers: Donovan Edwards, OT (JR, JC Transfer – 1 star by Scout); Connor Bradford, OT (3 stars, #81 by Scout); Jeff Baca, OG (3 stars, #36 by Scout)
Notes: Sean Sheller was projected to be the starting RT but is out for the season with a knee injury. Darius Savage has switched from the defensive line to the offensive line. Scott Glicksberg has switched from TE to the offensive line. Micah Reed has switched from RG to C this season. Adam Heater has switched from TE to the offensive line. Sonny Tevaga is the younger brother of former pre-season All-American OG Shannon Tevaga.
'09-'10 (13 total scholarship players)
LT: Kia (SR)
LG: Savage (RS JR)
C: Dean (RS JR)
RG: Ekbatani (RS SR)
RT: Sheller (RS JR)Reserves: Bennett, LT (RS JR); Tevaga, LG (RS JR); Heater, C (RS SR); Keane, RG (RS JR); Edwards, OT (RS JR or SR); Bradford, OT (RS FR or SO); Baca, OG (RS FR or SO)
Incoming Freshmen/Transfers: Greg Capella, OG (3 stars, #28 by Scout)
Notes: Starting positions along the line are in flux going into next season; expect Kia and Sheller to book-end the offensive line.
'10-'11 (10 scholarship players):
LT: Bradford (RS SO or JR)
LG: Savage (RS SR)
C: Dean (RS SR)
RG: Baca (RS SO or JR)/Tevaga (RS SR)
RT: Sheller (RS SR)Reserves: Bennett, LT (RS SR); Tevaga, LG (RS SR)/Baca, OG (RS SO or JR); Keane, RG (RS SR); Edwards, OT (RS SR if uses RS); Capella, OG (RS FR or SO)
Notes: LT, RG, and RT should all be wide open, with Bradford, Baca, Keane, and Tevaga all competing to start.
ASSESSMENT: While our numerical depth isn’t an issue, the quality of our line is a major concern. Numerous projected starters have little to no experience starting on the offensive line and numerous starters are undersized. Down the line, the offensive line gets woefully thin. If Baca and Bradford don’t pan out, the line could be in pretty bad shape. Look for CRN and NC to make landing OL talent a major priority in both the Class of ’09 and the Class of ’10. Failure to bring in more OL talent in the next two classes could cause major problems for the Bruin offense down the line.
KICKERS
'08-'09 (3 total scholarship players):
K: Kai Forbath (RS SO)
P: Aaron Perez (RS SR)
KOS: Jimmy Rotstein (RS JR) (Non-Scholarship)Reserves: None
Incoming Freshmen: Jeff Locke, P (4 stars, #1 by Scout)
Notes: Locke will most likely redshirt his first year at UCLA, taking over the punting duties after Aaron Perez graduates.
'09-'10 (2 total scholarship players)
K: Forbath (RS JR)
P: Locke (RS FR or SO)
KOS: Rotstein (RS SR) (Non-Scholarship)Reserves: None
Incoming Freshmen: No current commits in the Class of ’09.
Notes: Expect Rotstein to continue handling kick-off duties, with Forbath focusing solely on field goal and PAT duties. Locke is the top-ranked punter in the Class of ’09 and should be a solid starter for us next season.
'10-'11 (2 scholarship players):
K: Forbath (RS SR)
P: Locke (RS SO or JR)
KOS: Forbath (RS SR)/Locke (RS SO or JR)Reserves: None
Notes: Kick-off duties in the ’10-’11 season are up-for-grabs, but odds are Locke will handle kick-off duties, leaving Forbath to focus on FG and PAT duties.
ASSESSMENT: Although KD was a terrible coach, he did a terrific job of bringing in talented kicking talent. Perhaps because KD knew he’d be relying on his kickers so often with his inept offense. CRN will need to plan on bringing in a kicker in the Class of ’10, to redshirt the new kicker in anticipation of a new kicker taking over after Forbath graduates. There is an outside possibility that Forbath could leave a year early, but it’s a slim possibility.
Thanks for all of the support. As we get closer to basketball season, I'll try to do the same kind of break-down for our Ben Ball Warriors (which I suspect will be a bit harder in the one-and-done era). So feel free to let me know what you'd like to see, what kind of stuff to add for the next time I do this.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of BruinsNation's (BN) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of BN's editors.
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This is great stuff
Its going to be interesting how the QB competition shapes up this Fall camp. We have heard lot of positive feedback re. Kevin Prince. The kid reportedly has the right physical frame to make a charge for a spot in the depth chart and has been getting good reviews in the summer camp.
Once again … thanks for this norcal … I am going to start rolling out my own notes re. our depth chart for this season starting next week … this dovetails perfectly.
Oh … for everyone else … once again this is the type of post for which “recommend” button was created.
by Nestor on Jul 9, 2008 6:17 PM PDT 0 recs
No prob
Truth be told, N, the idea wasn’t even mine. I just ran with the suggestion you made in the thread re: Moore and Pollard leaving.
While I think this year’s camp will be interesting, I think it’ll be a long-shot for anyone other than Olson or Craft to take the reins of the offense at first (although given our offensive line and Olson’s history with injuries, Prince, Forcier, and Crissman will be in the mix).
Next year, if Cowan gets that extra year and comes back solid, I think the job will be his, again with Craft as his top back-up. The year after that, I think, is when it gets real interesting. The job will be wide-open, and while I put C-Force at the top (I generally went by seniority, but gave Brehaut the nod ahead of Prince because of all of the good news we’re hearing about Brehaut), I really think the job is Brehaut’s to lose. He’s NC’s hand-picked guy and by all accounts, he’s got all the tools.
Either way, it looks like we’re in great shape down the line at QB. Now if we can only pick up some OL help, we’d be set.
by norcald503 on
Jul 9, 2008 7:35 PM PDT
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Yeah
QB spot will be interesting to say the least. I am looking forward to the feedback/comments to my notes next week. Thanks again for this analysis. Very helpful for all of us.
by Nestor on
Jul 9, 2008 7:43 PM PDT
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I look forward to reading your notes
And I put these together, less for comments now, but because:
(1.) I anticipate that this season will end, as we expect, somewhere between 6-6 and 7-5.
(2.) CRN, NC, and DW will put together the Class of ‘09, with (I hope) mostly “unsexy” non-position players: offensive linemen, linebackers, and defensive linebackers to address our long term depth issues in ‘09-’10 and ‘10-’11.
(3.) As a result of (1) and (2), there will be a lot of nay-sayers, former Dorrellistas, and concern trolls talking about this season was a “failure” and crying about how the sky is falling because all the super-skilled RBs and WRs are going to U$C, Cal, or some other program, while all we’re getting our linemen.
This way, when that time comes, I hope this little projection will be a rubric for which we can use to highlight that CRN, NC, and DW are getting it right with our recruiting.
by norcald503 on
Jul 9, 2008 7:52 PM PDT
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I meant: getting *are linemen
BarBri rots the mind of all ability to spell.
by norcald503 on Jul 9, 2008 7:53 PM PDT 0 recs
Norcal - stick to law
Don’t try math, because there’s a problem with your prediction that this season will end “somewhere between 6-6 and 7-5.” I’m no expert in football, but I don’t think there is anything between 6-6 and 7-5. I suppose a game could be called at halftime or something, so we could be 6.5 and 5.5, but that’s really rare in D-1 football.
by Fox 71 on Jul 9, 2008 8:22 PM PDT 0 recs
Hahaha, will do
I meant around 6-6 or 7-5. For a budding attorney, you’d think I’d be more precise with my words. :)
by norcald503 on
Jul 9, 2008 8:34 PM PDT
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A couple of things
1-As thin as we are on line, I am amazed that Meyer can’t find a starting spot. True, he was always in KD’s doghouse, but he has a lot more experience than many other linemen, and when he did play he did very well. He is no longer a C now?
2-I sure hope Rotstein has been seriously working on his leg strength or I would bench him and let Forbath do the honors. If memory serves, I don’t think we had a single touchback on kicking off the entire season. That simply is not acceptable to consistenly giving up that much yardage in the kicking game.
by Free the 16 on Jul 10, 2008 10:16 AM PDT 0 recs
I think Forbath did most of the kickoffs at the spring scrimmage
I agree that Forbath should be doing the kickoffs. Last year Rotstein almost never got it past the 5, and the other team inevitably got field position.
We may also consistently get good kicking recruits because Chris Sailer runs one of the main high school kicking camps.
by SuperBruinMan on
Jul 10, 2008 12:16 PM PDT
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To answer
1. According to the tentative depth chart posted on the official site, Meyer is listed as the #3 LG, behind both Savage and Tevaga. I suspect that Palcic was not impressed with the guy, but I don’t have any other information than you do. If you find out more, please pass along the info.
2. As for Rotstein, he’s still officially listed as our KOS, although given how terrible his kickoffs were last year, I’d be inclined to let Perez or Forbath take his job. I 100% with SBM, we got to win the field position battle with this team if we want to win and letting teams start on the 30+ is not the way to get it done.
by norcald503 on
Jul 10, 2008 12:41 PM PDT
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Kudos 2U again
TY for taking the time to lay this all out.
QB & RB are positions where we have the oh so elusive depth along with talent. The WR position has plenty of bodies but lacks elite playmakers. We got some solid guys but nobody that the Mel Kipers of the world is going to pump up. I do think that Dominique Johnson has a shot. I personally love guys that play multiple sports because a lot of the skills used in the other sport can be applied to football. It is just a shame that KD had another one of his moments when DJ went into a game which will cause him to miss a couple next year. Having said this, I would argue that our TE’s are one of the best groups in the nation. Logan & Ryan are solid, solid players but never were fully utilized. I can see NC lining Ryan in the backfield as a HB on some formations. Our TE’s should help our offense immensely this year. I’m personally really excited to see how both Chandler & Harkey develop. I got a sneaky suspicion that Harkey is NFL material. He has the athleticism (played B-ball in high school) as well as the size.
The dreaded OL. I honestly can’t figure this out. A lot of the RS Soph class were highly rated coming out of HS. HS OL are the toughest to project whether they will make an impact at the next level unless they are elite. I can’t tell if they were overhyped or if they were just mindf**d by the Least Coast Offense. In addition, they haven’t had much continuity when it comes to their position coach. OL as we all know is the position group that must have cohesiveness which is very difficult to attain. Those 5 big uglies need to synchronize a ballet per se in the mish-mash of bodies. I think the jury is still out on these guys. I’m very, very curious what our Coach Palcic can do with these guys given some time and them getting some experience. In addition, they all need to hit the Training Table and the weight room.
It’s going to be an interesting year(s). But I’m 100% confident that we’ll be putting the smackdown on USC real soon. And Terry Bowden got it 100% right when he said that UCLA is a sleeping giant.
by BlueReign on Jul 10, 2008 2:52 PM PDT 0 recs
Again, I completely agree
I think TE is a very strong position for us. I expect to see a lot of 2 TE sets, in part because Paulsen and Moya are very experienced, very good players, and also, in part, to help out what projects to be a weak OL unit. Chandler, I think, is going to be a beast in a few years; same with Harkey. I really like both guys and I’m excited to see how NC utilizes our TEs this year.
As for DJ, I definitely think he has the skills to be a playmaker. He’s got great size and he’s made some spectacular catches for us before. I’m also excited about this Rosario kid, who’s got great size and, if the numbers are accurate, great speed. In a few years, he could be a legit deep-ball threat for us.
Truth be told, I don’t think we need our WRs to get any man-love from Mel Kiper. He gets off on the hype and flashy guys, but if you recall, he didn’t have any love for Tab Perry or Craig Bragg. Tab is deep in the Cincy depth chart and I don’t think Bragg is even in the No Fun League right now, but both guys were very solid contributors for us. We don’t need superstar WRs, just some workmen who can catch a 5 yard out and grind out a few extra yards with a DB on his back.
With RBs like Bell, Carter, Dean, and Knox, we already have the big-play, 60+ yard TD type guys. The key is having WRs who can do just enough to keep defenses honest and not stack the box. But, again, I really think DJ and Rosario can be deep-ball guys for us.
I’m really high on this offense. I think a couple of areas need to be worked out, specifically QB and our OL, but otherwise, this is a very good unit. If Olson can get NC’s playbook down and Palcic can patch this line together to give him just enough time back there, then I think we have a pretty decent unit.
by norcald503 on
Jul 10, 2008 3:21 PM PDT
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solid stuff!
i’m praying our young guys make significant contributions this year. if they get on the field and live up to their billing we may shock some people, including ourselves. i know tempered expectations is the mindset right now, but what can i say, i’m an optimist to a fault.
i think our young qbs are really special and i’m not even counting brehaut. i’m expecting big things from crissman and forcier. i’m hoping for the best for olson this year and as clutch as cowan was in that sc game, i don’t see him #1 on the depth chart ever again. i hope ossar agrees to go back to wr can someone have hines ward call him?
-i hope bell comes back from his injury with a vengeance, but again, with carter, knox, and dean… daddy like! i think jet ski should get moved to wr or defense, btw baldwin hills is one of the worst things on tv.
-as far as wr goes, nelson rosario is it. i’m talking batman good, like he doesn’t need superpowers to be a super hero.
recruiting should focus on o-line and lbs, maybe some game breaking wr would be a cherry on top
Across The Face
by rb bruin on Jul 10, 2008 7:17 PM PDT 0 recs
Thanks
We have a very young team, which truth be told, is a double-edged sword. On one hand, having young guys means no one knows what to expect and these guys could surprise a lot of teams and catch some top squads off guard. On the other hand, this team is young and sorely lacking in experience, which could haunt us at times. It’s high-risk, high-reward as I see it this season.
As for the QB situation, I’m not really sold on Forcier as anything more than a back-up. Maybe a spot starter, but by the time he can displace Olson/Craft and Cowan/Craft, I think his ship will have sailed and the job will be Brehaut’s to lose.
As for Cowan specifically, I really expect him to be our starting QB next season if he gets that extra year of eligibility. Let’s not forget, he did win the QB battle this spring, ahead of Olson and Craft. Cowan’s ability to take the job next season, I think, is really contingent on the progress Craft makes (and to a lesser extent, Crissman and Prince) over this year. Next season, I really think it’s a two-horse race between Cowan and Craft.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Jet Ski was redshirted this season due to the depth we have at both RB and WR. I know the guy can also play DB, but with the four highly touted DB prospects coming in, I’m inclined to think DW will use those four first before Jet Ski. Don’t expect to see Jet Ski suit up this season. He should come on next year as a RS FR.
Don’t forget that we’ll also need some major defensive line help down the road too. ;)
by norcald503 on
Jul 10, 2008 10:20 PM PDT
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Good Perspective
I bounce back and forth between Rivals and Scout and other news sources. But I would be hard pressed to assemble an evaluation or conclusions of this order. It is almost IRAC in form (just kidding – for anyone not having attended law school it stands for Issue, Rule, Analysis and Conclusion a pretty standard form for writing exams.) Good practice for the Bar and we bloggers get a good read on this years prospect for success.
Super job ! Thanks.
by northbaybruin on Jul 11, 2008 12:04 PM PDT 0 recs
















