Neuheisel to the Faithful

by Menelaus on Aug 29, 2008 1:56 PM PDT in Football

The Friday before Game 1.

It doesn't get any more exciting than this. It's bad enough that it's a holiday weekend. Even worse that we have to wait until Monday to see how the Neuheisel era will begin against the Vols.

In the interim, all we can do is wait. And not get much work done.

So, in that spirit, I joined the UCLA Faithful at the Bruin Touchdown Club breakfast this morning. If you haven't been to one of these, it's a gathering of fans, led by our very own Geoffrey Strand, which features food, friends, cheerleaders and some words from our Bruins.

For this installment, it was Coach Neuheisel's turn, along with Brigham Harwell, ATV, Logan Paulsen and Micah Reed. It was an interesting morning, but the highlight was the presentation by Neu:

And, besides giving a nice talk about the upcoming season, Coach Neuheisel also eloquently addressed the ads placed by UCLA in the LAT and Daily News we've discussed before.

Just 3 more days.

GO BRUINS.

UPDATE - N: We have taken the audio link out per Rick Neuheisel's request. GO BRUINS.

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THANK YOU, M!

This is a Godsend for we Bruins in exile…

(I’ve said before that I’m “cautiously optimistic” about Coach Neu, and that I am trusting that he is a wiser man and coach for all his trials and tribulations, and that remains true…but…)

There is one thing that I absolutely believe wholeheartedly and without reservation: This coach is completely, 100% dedicated and committed to this team and school, and he really does have his “dream job” coaching our Bruins. It truly is a “Neu Era” for UCLA football. For this I am grateful, and sincerely respectful.

I remain totally envious of all of you who will be at the big “debut” on Monday night. Please try not to gloat too vociferously. :)

Love My Bruins

by Bruingirl83 on Aug 29, 2008 10:37 AM PDT 0 recs

Thanks, Menelaus!

great recording, I enjoyed that. Rick’s so funny. Did you just hit the mic recording button on your cell phone or was it an electronic recorder that you can just put into a base unit and upload?

by bruin95 on Aug 29, 2008 12:43 PM PDT 0 recs

You need to take this down right now

I just got off the phone with Geoff Strand.

The UCLA athletic Department is going crazy over you guys putting this up and are threathing legal action and so is Strand.

What were you guys thinking?!

Take it down NOW!!!

by ArtyBruin@ on Aug 29, 2008 2:37 PM PDT 0 recs

We took the audio link out per RN's reuquest

But rest of the post will stand.

Menelaus did nothing wrong. Even if this even was private comments should be considered on the record unless specified otherwise. But now that we received a formal request from CRN, we took the audio down.

But Menelaus did nothing wrong.

FYI … notes from this event goes up on BRO and Bruinzone all the time and that has been going on for years.

by Nestor on Aug 29, 2008 2:45 PM PDT up 0 recs

Nestor, you're right

I would’ve taken it down too if they asked, but Menelaus did nothing wrong.

Menelaus, I read further below that you said other people had cameras and were recording this. Had I been in your situation, I would’ve posted it too (and also complied with their request to take it down.)

by gilbert on Aug 29, 2008 5:24 PM PDT up 0 recs

Throw a few more exclamation points in there

and wipe the spittle off your chin.

by Tydides on Aug 29, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up 0 recs

Frankly,

I’d like to witness the UCLA Athletic Department actually “going crazy” over some little bitty thing like this, and I’d also appreciate some specifics on the “legal action” by Strand.

I know what I’m thinking: I’m thinking you’re some self-important drama queen who may not fully understand the precise legal meaning of “confidential.”

Kudos to our guys for taking the audio link down at Coach N.‘s request, but I dispute any actual legal necessity of doing so—it was out of courtesy and respect for him and his program, I’m certain. With the number of lawyers we have who are BN’ers, it is quite tempting to respond with “bring it on” to you and Strand.

I’m also thinking that you are just ridiculous.

Love My Bruins

(BTW, what the hell does “contrivertial” mean?)

by Bruingirl83 on Aug 29, 2008 8:45 PM PDT up 0 recs

Thank you

I put up reports on BRO and Bruin Zone.

They are highly edited reports that do not include confidential or contrivertial comments.

There is now a real posibility that the athletic department will not allow coaches and players to attend the events because of what you guys did, never mind the fact that Strand is claiming that it was illegal and is going to go after you guys.

Again, what were you guys thinking?!

by ArtyBruin@ on Aug 29, 2008 2:56 PM PDT 0 recs

You are the same ArtyBruin

I remember this from way back in 2005:

Subject: BruinNation.com
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 01:31:23 -0400
[redacted]

As a loyal Bruin fan, I started checking out the Bruin Nation site.

I hope you guys are not paying the guys that [sic] run that site. Those guys are the biggest bunch of whinning [sic] idiots I have ever seen.

There is nothing of value on that site. Just the same old tired BS that makes it look like all they care about is getting the coach at UCLA fired.

That being the case, I will be telling my friends not to visit your site until you guys do something to balance the content on that pathetic site.

Angel Calvo
Los Angeles, CA

Question is what were you thinking Angel Calvo?

by bluestreet on Aug 29, 2008 2:58 PM PDT up 0 recs

Good find

I have three friends that are wealthy and influential alumni that are very concerned about Arty’s blood pressure, possibly stemming from an abundance of faux outrage. They suggest bedrest, a little less sharpening of knives/concern trolling, and a little more STFU.

by Tydides on Aug 29, 2008 3:03 PM PDT up 0 recs

Arty was so succesful

in shutting this website down!!!!

Hey I added some exclamation points.

by bluestreet on Aug 29, 2008 3:05 PM PDT up 0 recs

In a way

I kind of miss the lunatics like Arty that used to bring knives to gunfights here on BN. There was no better way to witness or participate in a good old fashioned beatdown.

by Tydides on Aug 29, 2008 3:07 PM PDT up 0 recs

Not me

Hey Everyone,

Just want to make sure there is no confusiing me with the other “ArtyBruin”. When I joined I got got some ribbing because BN’rs thought I was him. Don’t want it to start again so I’m just throwing up a flag that we are two different people with the same user name (I didn’t cap any of my letters). When he hadn’t been around all this time I thougt it was safe to keep the name, now I am considering changing it so there is no confusion in the future.

by artybruin on Aug 29, 2008 11:32 PM PDT up 0 recs

you still have

quite a lot to answer for, what with being a disgusting Dorrell apologist and what with all the whinning. Or was that not you either?

by Seanny Rotten on Aug 29, 2008 11:45 PM PDT up 0 recs

back off

“artybruin” is different “ArtyBruin@”

arty … no need to change your username.

by Nestor on Aug 30, 2008 8:25 AM PDT up 1 recs

Thanks

by artybruin on Aug 30, 2008 10:44 AM PDT up 0 recs

Your welcome

But, you should know I didn’t do this in any way thinking that the information was private or confidential. I wasn’t the only person there with cameras and the event was being videotaped. I saw no signs that indicated that recording it was in any way wrong.

That said, if they don’t want this stuff posted, I’m happy to oblige. And I give me personal apologies to both Mr. Strand and Coach Neuheisel if they are upset. It won’t happen again.

by Menelaus on Aug 29, 2008 2:59 PM PDT up 0 recs

I know what I'm thinking

Your colon is in a knot. We got an official request and complied with it.

Hand waving and brick shitting is not only counterproductive, but makes you into a lunatic. Sit down and shut up.

by Tydides on Aug 29, 2008 3:00 PM PDT up 0 recs

He is a tool

Notorious BN hating former Dorrellista.

by bluestreet on Aug 29, 2008 3:03 PM PDT up 0 recs

Just curious

How is Geoff Strand planning on going after anyone?

by Ajax on Aug 29, 2008 3:36 PM PDT up 0 recs

I don't know exactly....

but I’m sure it starts with every man, woman and child doing…something.

by CAJason80 on Aug 29, 2008 4:44 PM PDT up 0 recs

Very good, Jason

Gave me a good chuckle.

I’m not exactly sure why a speech given in public can’t be rebroadcast, republished or whatever as long as it’s with the express written consent of Major League Baseball and, I guess, Geoff.

I wasn’t there, of course. But if I had been there, heard the speech and remembered it, would I have to have a lobotomy to make sure I un-remembered it?

To my friend Arty, who I believe is a Geezer and should know better, let me suggest that there are better things to vent about than this. Think about anything in ketchup and mustard and send your passion in that direction. We’re all Bruins here. What appears to be misplaced hysteria from Geoff and tremendous outrage from you appears to me to be based on nothing. You were my friend before this event and will be afterward, I hope. But relax a little.

by Fox 71 on Aug 29, 2008 8:38 PM PDT up 0 recs

All Rick really says that is controversial

is he approves the message and reiterates “The Monopoly is over, etc” because it’s already out there. There’s nothing in that recording that I would call highly controversial or sensitive. Tell Jeff to just settle down, put on his hot polyester UCLA cheering suit, and let’s get it on Monday! Just kidding Jeff, you’re awesome.

by bruin95 on Aug 29, 2008 3:04 PM PDT 0 recs

Yep

I carefully reviewed the audio before posting it to ensure (1) that he didn’t say anything controversial, or (2) that he didn’t say anything that would remotely be considered relating to game plan/strategy, etc. In the end, I thought it was eloquent, inspiring and appropriate. I also linked Strands Touchdown Club to promote the organization, which does a good job.

by Menelaus on Aug 29, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up 0 recs

the good thing is

BN complied with Coach Rick right away. Anything that HE might not be comfortable with first and foremost then BN should oblige. But BN is on the Bruin fighting front of the WWW, fighting for the Bruins like Coach asked for. We’re ready! Is it Monday yet!

by bruin95 on Aug 29, 2008 3:24 PM PDT up 0 recs

Of course

We are more than happy to comply with Coach’s requests. And I’ve fought for Neuheisel repeatedly, in many ways.

by Menelaus on Aug 29, 2008 3:32 PM PDT up 0 recs

And that's been posted elsewhere

Posted by ArtyBruin on August 29, 2008 at 10:26:49

Place was full, they had to set up extra tables it was so full.

Two quick notes, I’ll get a full report from Jim later.

1. There has been a lot of talk about the ad in the LA Times. Coach Rick came out, took the same post as the ad and yelled into the microphone, “The football monopoly in Los Angeles is officially OVER!” The room went nuts. The he stopped and said, “Since this is an election year, I AM RICK NEUHEISEL AND I APPROVE THIS AD” The place went nuts again.

2. Talking about the season and play calling he said that when he calls out Perez to punt, don’t booo me. I know you all want me to go for it on 4th down, but that’s because you are all gamblers, and “I don’t do that anymore” Everyone laughed their @rse off on that one.

Guys and Gals, more later, but I really think we will win on Monday.

Go Bruins

by SuperBruinMan on Aug 29, 2008 3:20 PM PDT up 0 recs

Arty is a hypocrite

What a dweeb.

by bluestreet on Aug 29, 2008 3:33 PM PDT up 0 recs

I DEMAND

THAT ARTY REMOVE HIS POST ON RICK’S CONTROVERSIAL COMMENTS NOW!!!!!

RIGHT NAOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

APOLOGIZE NAOOOOOOOOO!!!1111

SOME PEOPLE ARE UPSET!!!!!!!! REALLY REALLY UPSET!!!

by Tydides on Aug 29, 2008 7:18 PM PDT up 0 recs

Why?

I cannot believe anyone would have a problem with posting stuff from a public speech anyway. I listened to it before it was taken down and thoroughly enjoyed it. Neu said nothing provocative or insulting or degrading or anything worth hiding whatsoever. It was a really nice talk about the expectations of the team and the excitement around it. He threw in a few jokes about his past and a few good bits about how he was beyond it. If he wants it down that is one thing, but why on earth would Morgan Center or any UCLA officials care? And it seems pretty clear that Arty is a hypocrite, as noted by SuperBruinMan and bluestreet. Why can Arty make comments on what Coach said but we can’t? What would be the difference between a rundown, or even a transcript of what he said and a recording? Whats the big deal?

by sponkey21 on Aug 29, 2008 3:45 PM PDT 0 recs

I listened to it.

And it fired me up!!!

Ironically, the speech was about firing up the Bruin football community, but it’s now not allowed to be heard. Peculiar…

Go Bruins!!!

by JKNaka on Aug 29, 2008 3:56 PM PDT 0 recs

Yikes

I have several videos from last nights dinner up and I went through them first to make sure there was nothing controvesial and NO “bulletin board” material for TN or anyone else. I guess I’d better take it down from BN! :(

by uclafan11 on Aug 29, 2008 3:57 PM PDT 0 recs

"threathing legal action"

I’m wondering what law was violated? But I’m glad you guys complied. BN is the last place that would ever intentionally hurt our University.

Just a question: Do you know how many lawyers post here?

by Bruins102NCAA on Aug 29, 2008 11:03 PM PDT 0 recs

Enough

to start a decent-sized firm, I’d guess.

(One.)

Love My Bruins

by Bruingirl83 on Aug 30, 2008 10:43 AM PDT up 0 recs

What I Meant Was..

I’m one of them. Not than one attorney is a “decent-sized firm…” (although, in some towns, it actually might be.)

I’m still trying to figure out Arty’s hysteria. There was clearly no violation of any confidential information, or anything actionable done by anyone. If he hates BN so much, why wouldn’t he want us all to go down in the flames of litigation and shame…why would he ride in to “rescue” us from ourselves?

On the other hand, if he’s Mr. “I’ve Got To Be the Center of Attention and Drama,” and he was really just trolling and saw how much better Melnelaus’s piece about Coach Neu’s speech was than his own, well…

(I’m just saying.)

Love My Bruins

by Bruingirl83 on Aug 31, 2008 3:39 PM PDT up 0 recs

At least 4

66, Fox, Nestor and Meriones. Those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

by bruinbabe2000 on Aug 30, 2008 2:37 PM PDT up 0 recs

Don't forget the "offender" himself

And, let me tell you, I’m not a bit concerned. I’m happy that we complied with CRN’s request, but I didn’t do anything remotely actionable.

by Menelaus on Aug 30, 2008 2:53 PM PDT up 0 recs

Few more :-)

Ajax, Odysseus, KoachKarl … and few others. We also have future attorneys in bruinhoo, norcal … and many others.

by Nestor on Aug 30, 2008 3:10 PM PDT up 0 recs

Yes, I wasn't going to call you out on it :)

As for me, I can’t understand how all you guys do it. I have always thought law is incredibly boring, but I’m glad I can turn to this site to get legal advice.

by bruinbabe2000 on Aug 31, 2008 4:03 PM PDT up 0 recs

bruinbabe

On a serious note … you should never turn here to get legal “advice.” Sure we can all have discussions w legal angle, but nothing offered up here should ever amount to legal advice. That said you are among friends and if you ever need it, I am sure folks will be ready to help to steer you to a source where you will get great legal advice (offline from BN).

by Nestor on Aug 31, 2008 6:19 PM PDT up 0 recs

Good to know

I know with the bu$h scandal, those of us without law degrees turned to you with law degrees have turned to you with questions.

I do have an aunt who is a lawyer and I have turned to her in the past, but it is nice to know I have so many friends I can turn to if I have questions.

by bruinbabe2000 on Sep 1, 2008 7:58 AM PDT up 0 recs