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Dealing With Reality: Bouncing Back With Basics

So where to pick up the day after?

All off season we had been mentally preparing ourselves for a very tough season during Rick Neuheisel’s first year at UCLA. There were a number of outsiders who mocked those pre-season projections asserting that somehow we were low balling the expectations game to protect a first year coach. What we saw yesterday was a realization of all the warning signs we flashed this off season based on our thorough analysis of our entire roster. Sure the jolt of 0-59 was beyond jarring:

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However, the kind of low we are all collectively experiencing this morning, shouldn’t have been a surprise to any knowledgeable Bruin football fan who has been following this program on a day to day basis for last few years. This was coming and there wasn’t much even the best coaching combination in the country could do about it.

The victory against Tennessee was magical. No doubt. But there was a reason we posted this warning sign moments after that missed Volunteer OT kick at the Rose Bowl (emphasis added):

Tonight is just a start. We are experiencing the kind of high we haven't experienced since 13-9. We know there are tough times ahead. We are going to experience our share of adversity. It is going to happen.

So it has happened. Within 2 weeks, the reality around UCLA football has brought everyone back crashing to earth. The question is how everyone is going to react?

Well, a good place to start would be not to get into any kind of blame game and recognize the reality that right now we don’t have the horses to compete at an elite level. Please note that when I make that assertion it’s not meant to be an attack on any of our players in the team. I have no doubt these kids are doing everything they can and will do everything they can to help the new regime build a foundation for the long term future of this program. But that doesn’t preclude us from making the observation that right now we don’t have the talent and experience to compete at the top level of the Pac-10 conference or even the MWC.

Let’s take our defense for example.  Over here we have been critical and difficult on DeWayne Walker and have raised questions about his ability to scheme against the spread offense. Yet, today I am not sure it would be wise to single him out for failing to properly scheme against BYU’s lethal passing attack. Let’s go back to the discussion we had on stopping spread type of offense before the Tennessee game:

The most effective way to stop spread offense is to have speedy defenders who can offset any mismatches spread OCs try to create with their skill position players. So what can a DC like Walker do to spread the effective passing attack of Max Hall? He can compete when he can field a defense with speedy LBs and a fast and athletic defensive secondary. Does he have that? Well again just look through our roster. Walker is working with 3 new starters in his defensive backfield and his experience safety Lockett was getting in his first action of the season. At LB with all due respect to Bosworth and Hale (who are playing their hearts out), Walker has a blue chipper in Reggie Carter who is playing a new position at Mike, replacing the experience and brain of last two year’s unit in Christian Taylor.

I guess the question here could be is why did our DBs give Cougars receivers so much cushion? From Dohn:

Collie matched a career-high with 10 receptions - all in the first half - and scored two touchdowns as quarterback Max Hall picked apart UCLA's secondary, Verner in particular, en route to No. 18 BYU's 59-0 thrashing of the Bruins on Saturday at LaVell Edwards Stadium.

"It was a shocker," Walker said. "We've got to get (Verner) going. I'm just as shocked as you guys. I thought he could handle (Collie).

"That was our whole game plan going in, and it didn't work out that way."

Walker said he did not want Verner to give Collie much of a cushion at the line of scrimmage, but time and again Verner lined up 10 yards off the line of scrimmage.

It allowed Hall to constantly complete short passes to Collie, and kept UCLA's defensive line and blitzing linebackers from pressuring Hall. He finished 27 of 35 for 271 yards and seven touchdowns, and was a big reason the Cougars were 13 of 17 converting third downs.

"I played off too much," Verner said. "They were doing short routes most of the game, taking 5- or 6- or 8-yard gains all day. I played too far off him and gave him too much room to make catches. That type of guy you have to get up and try to take their space away and make them go over the top on you.

"I didn't do that in the beginning, and I tried to change it up at the end."

I think the fact that our best cover corner felt like he had to give Austin Collie a cushion to effectively cover him tells us all we need to know about the talent level in our defense. This is the kind of reality that might not be pleasant for fan but this is where we are after what has transpired in the recruiting front over last five years. I know we have lot of youngsters who came in this last recruiting class. But football is not basketball where kids can just come in and take over. There are some exceptions but it generally takes 2-3 years for a high school kid to get comfortable in the college game.

The obvious difference in this year’s matchup with Cougars from last year was the absence of Bruce Davis. Davis was a terror who brought the heat on Hall from the outside. There was only so much the combination of Harwell and Price could do. They tried to push from the inside, but the BYU OL was able to neutralize them given the fact that we were not getting any pressure from our DEs and backers.  As a result, Hall had enough time in the pocket to write up terms papers and slice up the UCLA secondary. And when Unga was getting outside he was simply bulldozing over our ends and LBers. They were undersized and overmatched.

There was not much Walker could do.  Could he have gone for broke time and again by bringing in LB and safety blitzes? I am honestly not sure if that would have worked because as mentioned above he doesn’t have seniors like Davis, Horton or Keyes in the roster.   Only thing he can do right now is to try to get back with his players and get them to refocus on the fundamentals for next weekend at the Rose Bowl.

Now let’s shift our attention towards the offense. Again there is not much either Neuheisel or Chow could do yesterday. If you go through the game, I am not sure how much second guessing we can do about their play calling. If anything, they actually tried to be aggressive. They head faked the BYU coaches into taking a TO, when they showed as if they were going for it on 4th and 1 in our first drive. They mixed in good calls on first downs. Loved those quick outs and bubble screens to WRs on first downs that worked like running play.

But all that didn’t hide the stone cold reality about our OL, which once again generated only 16 yards in 9 carries (See box score). I have always liked the effort the Chane Train gives out there. But he is not really an every down back. We didn’t have Bell out there and Carter got dinged up early on. My main reservation from yesterday was that I wish our coaches had tried out Dean or Franklin out there early. My understanding is that Dean was out there for 1 carry and got hurt (update below). I think it would be good for coaches to get these kids out there lot more (if Dean is healthy) next week and just give them their chances. Because they need something.

As for Craft, again this is a kid who is giving everything they have. He did missed couple of easy passes. But his production was decent (23 for 39, 240 yards, 1 pick). He did what he could to move the chains. Then again we saw the extent of his athleticism when his hailmary pass at the end of the first half fell more than 20 yards short of the end zone. Once again, it’s telling about the talent level of our program when our best QB prospect (including the current kids on the roster) is probably a helicopter ride away from Westwood.

What happened yesterday was a total implosion that’s a result of a decade long roster and recruiting mismanagement in this football program. And the problems on both offense and defense metastasized and spilled over into every facets of the team which we saw in the repeated breakdown of special teams. As painful and dispiriting as it is, there is not much we can do about it.

We already posted CRN’s message re. adversity. As  T pointed he has standing when he talks about dealing with adversity given what he has gone through last few years. There is no one better in terms of offering to lead by his own example. He also had this to say about yesterday’s loss:

"We have to get better, and that's across the board," Neuheisel said. "All of us have to get better. This loss is pinned on every one of us. The bottom line is what do we do to fix it?"

I think in terms of fixing the problems, as alluded it will probably start with going back to basics on defense. Same goes for both offense and the special teams. I imagine coaches are going to be working on with basic drills of holding on to the ball. CRN had to say this about our offense:

"Our game is always going to be the same; we're going to have to stay on the field, keep our defense off of it,'' Neuheisel said. "We could not do that. We left our defense out there far too long, and BYU was methodical.''

And that plan falls apart when the offense keeps turning the ball over. For the long term issues silverlakebruin nailed it:

The Key now is to get the troops rallied, play with pride the next 10 games, hope for a .500 season, and one more thing::

ITS ALL ABOUT RECRUITING… CRN MUST HAVE STELLAR RECRUITING THE NEXT TWO SEASONS

Then we will be in a position to be excellent in 2010.

As for injuries here was the update from Don following the game:

Center Micah Reed injured the medial collateral ligament in his right knee, and it appears he will not be ready for next week against Arizona.
Linebacker Kyle Bosworth injured the MCL in his left knee, and was pulled from the game so not to injure it more.
Running back Raymond Carter has a bruised knee, but said he didn't believe it was serious.
All three will have MRIs Monday or Tuesday.
Running back Aundre Dean sprained his ankle on his only carry and defensive tackle Jerzy Siewierski suffered a strained neck. Not sure on either's status for next week until the next few days.

I haven’t seen any updates yet. If you see it, please post it in the comments on the fan shots.

Right now ... we don't need outsider's "pity" or calls for "gut check" who in their cursory interest in writing about our program never really cared to deal with with facts and failed to recognize what our program has gone through this past decade. Let the MSM types cackle all they want. We need to stick together with this team and with each other.

So, I will reiterate what I wrote last night. We saw this play out in Howland’s first couple of years again, again, and again. Under the best coach in college hoops, kids with UCLA stitched in front of their jerseys were getting humiliated at Pauley and on the road in blowout losses to Arizona, Notre Dame, St. Johns and on and on. In fact Howland’s best moment his first season was a close loss against Tubby Smith’s Kentucky team in Anaheim. I remember those days clearly because it makes the taste of success we have experience last three years that much sweeter. Especially sweet for those of us who stay with the team for the entire ride.

So chin up … take a deep breath.

GO BRUINS.

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Recruiting

I’d have to say if there was one silver lining about yesterday… and this is really a reach here… it’s that the game was on Versus, and not a national affair like the win over the Vols. Not to mention big name recruits were probably focused on the “Game of the Week” transpiring in south central.

Kids will see the score… not the game. Not sure if that’s a good thing or not. Thoughts?

by Allofmybros on Sep 14, 2008 10:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The world is over

Everyone on this coaching staff needs to be fired. This would have never happened under the Dorrell regime.

Those are things you will never hear me say seriously.

by SmrtGuy82 on Sep 14, 2008 10:30 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

fair enough, but

This part of the Dohn piece was a P*sser “It was a shocker,” Walker said. "We’ve got to get (Verner) going. I’m just as shocked as you guys. I thought he could handle (Collie).

“That was our whole game plan going in, and it didn’t work out that way.”

Walker said he did not want Verner to give Collie much of a cushion at the line of scrimmage, but time and again Verner lined up 10 yards off the line of scrimmage.

Please tell me how this isn’t DWW tossing ATV under the bus and driving over him, repeatedly? DWW has seen this offense 3 times in 13 months. He should absorb the responsibility and move forward, instead of scape-goating. Besides, there will be other offenses similar down the road (UA, Oregon), that this unit will have to deal with, and they’ll need the right schemes in place.

The Mad Bruin

by lostnacfgop on Sep 14, 2008 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do hope that that was part of a larger quote

Because yesterday’s horrendous defensive performance was certainly not all ATV’s fault. I can’t think of any defensive player that shouldn’t shoulder blame for yesterday.

by Tydides on Sep 14, 2008 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats the trouble with newspapers or clips

you never know the context.

Its like Lipstick on a pig. Was it about Palin or McCain’s policies? Well if you don’t hear or read the proceeding paragraph, you don’ t know, and those that don’t want you to know don’t read that, they just edit to get the message they want out.

DW has never to my knowledge singled out a player for a loss in his two years here. I will give him the benefit of the doubt that this is one of many issues he discussed.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Sep 14, 2008 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aw c'mon . . .

“Lipstick on a pig” was about the newly minted casting of McCain/Palin as DC outsider/agents of change. Context-schmontext

The Mad Bruin

by lostnacfgop on Sep 14, 2008 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's handled this offense twice last year successfully

He also had an offense that could average more than 1 yard carry and not turn the ball over 4 times a game.

There is a ton of blame for this game, but singling out DW is unfair.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Sep 14, 2008 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of course there is plenty of blame

But DWW is the one – per the quote – loading up on ATV, as though he was the linchpin of the defense, and that’s why he was singled out. The best thing for the whole coaching staff to do at this point is shoulder the responsibility, take the criticisms – if any – into private circles and get the team focused on UA and another dangerous but streaky QB in Tuitama.

The Mad Bruin

by lostnacfgop on Sep 14, 2008 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Deep breath guys ...

I agree that everyone shares the blame for yesterday’s debacle and that it is completely unfair to single out a player.

BUT silverlake has a point that often times reporters write this article based on leading questions to fit their own narratives/theories. It could have been that Dohn or some other reporter asked DW a specific question re ATV. We should wait till we hear the whole tape.

FWIW two years ago after Washington game, I believe Walker made similar comment about Rodney Van and it fired him up even more . Van left UCLA as a big believer of Walker. So it could be Walker’s way of firing up/challenging his best cover corner.

Like I said I myself have been very critical of Walker in the past. But yesterday he didn’t have the horses.

The best thing for this team can do is for every player to look themselves in the mirror and challenge themselves and come up with a better game.

Also, the coaches do share blame for not being able to motivate players. But as pointed out in the main post even Howland failed at that repeatedly in his first two years. Culture change takes a while after a decade of mediocrity.

So let’s all take a step back and make sure we are putting things in proper context.

by Nestor on Sep 14, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Feeling for UCLA

Hey, I’m a BYU fan who posted on here a few times this last week, mostly expressing my respect for UCLA and trying to clear up some misconceptions about a lack of respect from BYU fans and players toward this UCLA team. I just wanted to say that I felt really bad about all of the injuries and personnel problems on the UCLA team yesterday. While I’m glad that BYU finally got a convincing win that they earned with no controversial celebration penalties or last-breath field goal blocks, I was really disappointed to see so many UCLA injuries. I probably won’t post on here any more this year of course, as there are other fish to fry on BYU’s schedule that I’ll be focusing my attention on, but could any of this loss be blamed on the strength and conditioning department in the UCLA organization? It seems with 2 QBs, a great TE, one of the nation’s best RB’s and others injured and out, I think it might be time to start pointing the finger at the strength and conditioning coach. Then again, what do I know? Just a thought there.

I really hope UCLA goes out and wins a lot of games this year. I’ll be watching the Bruins, and hoping for some victories. Thanks for letting me post! Even after 59-0, I have a lot of respect for UCLA, and look forward to any future games with trepidation…the Pac-10 always brings it to the MWC.

by byujim on Sep 14, 2008 10:34 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

we replaced the S&C coach at the end of the season.

good luck to BYU. My niece goes there!

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Sep 14, 2008 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes we replaced out S&C

Yes Silverlake is correct we replaced our s&c after last season, when Dorrell and his crew were let go. I have known Mike Linn the s&c for 17 years, he was previously our s&c until Dorrell came on board, in 2002. So for byujim to blame him for what happend in regards to how our players are conditioned is a gross mistake. Any one can ask Brigaham Harwell how much better condition he is in since Mike came back, he will tell you and I was at the first Bruin Touchdown Club breakfast on Aug 29th when he said that had lost weight and was in the best playing shape he’s been in since he came to UCLA. Anyone who follows football knows that no matter what kind of condition you are in injuries can and will happen no matter what you do. Its just the nature of the game, it’s a tough game, injuries happens to the best of them. I think CRN who has known Mike as long as I have the same 17 years or more, knew what he was doing when he brought Mike back, that he was getting the best s&c out there for his team. Just ask any of the players how he has changed the way they work out compared to the previous s&c. We have to remember that we still have to wade thru all the problems from the past 5 years before we get to where we want to be.

It’s not going to be an easy road and it’s sure going to be long, BUT we have the right head coach and staff, we just have to be patient, and give them and the guys our undying support, its’ going to get uglier before it gets better. I agree with Nestor, “We need to stick together with this team and with each other.” We will have the “sweet” before too long, it just takes time.

I’ve been associated with this program for over 17 years, thru the good times and the bad, and I will NEVER turn my back on them. I’m a true BRUIN… CRN is our guy and so are the rest. So like Nestor said “CHIN UP” Breathe…GO BRUINS!!!!

by Michelleucla69 on Sep 14, 2008 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some positives

1) I thought we would be 0-2 after two games. We are 1-1.

2) The Tennessee win was at home, with millions watching on ABC in primetime. The BYU loss was at BYU on versus with nobody outside of Utah watching

3) The rest of the conference except SUC looked horrible yesterday and lost to teams they were supposed to beat, or struggled into overtime wins against teams they were supposed to beat. They all have issues.

4) CRN will not let a loss like this impact the team negatively. You will not see this type of loss again.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Sep 14, 2008 10:35 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Both agree and hope that you're right

considering that the last time this happened was during the Hoover Administration. Don’t kid yourself about Versus, though, either. YahooNews had the Bruins skewered on its home page for hours yesterday (I think it was “Bruins Humiliated” with a picture of ATV doubled over on the ground, and Bruin ridicule was the only gleeful thing for Homer Herbstreit to blather on about during the second half of the Buckeyes’ beating in the Coliseum. The country knows. Coach Neuheisel will find the right buttons to push to use this as motiviation, not let it become a portent of things to come.

The Mad Bruin

by lostnacfgop on Sep 14, 2008 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Excellent take

Nestor, I haven’t always agreed with you on some of your takes, but on this one I think you really hit it on the head. UCLA has been spiraling down since 2001 with very, very few bright moments, and no sustained success over the course of a season. I am confident in the coaching acumen we have on the sidelines, but what we saw was simply the worst possible outcome given the tools available. BYU probably wins this game 6-7 times out of 10, maybe 7-8, but what are the chances it would be by this much? I don’t think that BYU played at that “magical level” we like to toss around when thinking of Lavin, but they did playabout as well as they could and we played, undeniably, as poorly as we could possibly have played. What are the chances of that occurring? Practically none-as the history shows, UCLA’s worst margin of defeat in 75 years. We’ve played some good teams and had some bad ones during that span. Once in a while, these things happen. Doesn’t mean they should happen, but given the total and complete failure we saw in Provo, coupled with the roster issues, we can accept a failure like this while hoping AND expecting improvement and better results going forward.

Going forward, as silverlake and others have pointed out, the problems we have can only be addressed by recruiting, particularly on the OL. We don’t need a slew of 5-stars (althpugh it would be nice to have some), but we need more than what we have.

by ucladj89 on Sep 14, 2008 11:16 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

How did the Huskies

hang with BYU? The Tennessee victory did mask a lot of issues, which many posters have already identified. While CRN preaches optimism, the fans must preach patience. I look forward to each game just to see how the players and coaches respond. Our team does seem to have more than its “share” of injuries. Finally, what is it about playing in Utah…

by Vanman7475 on Sep 14, 2008 11:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Patience

While yesterday was extremely upsetting, the reality is Nestor is correct. You cannot expect division 2 players to compete regularly with division 1 players. I wonder (and this is not a knock on the team’s heart,personalities, etc.) how many of our 22 starters would even start on any Pac 10 team (save WSU)…I know most of our receivers, entire offensive line, and probably our quarterback would not. On defense, how many of our non-fresmen would start…Price, Harwell, Carter, Verner, and who else????Enough said…LEt’s take our knocks this year and hope that the coaching staff can bring in enough talent to complete in the very near future. One last thought…with much more talent, in his first year, Carroll was 6-6 and did nothing against Utah in a meaningless bowl game…

by Gary72 on Sep 14, 2008 11:39 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think the

good news here is that we are already one step ahead of where we could expect to be. Yes Dorrell left the cupboard (nearly) empty, but with the latest recruiting class, he did give Neu a little push in the right direction. Now if Rick goes out and puts together another great class, we are only a year or two away from some serious football.

This loss was hard, but for some strange reason I am still more excited about Bruin Football today (the day after losing 59-0) than I was before Neu was hired. Pretty impressive that is.

by eubruin on Sep 14, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Nestor

How do I contact you directly?

by drinkbruinKool-Aid on Sep 14, 2008 1:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

And I hope

Asking to contact you directly isn’t too offensive to anyone here!

by drinkbruinKool-Aid on Sep 14, 2008 1:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ugh.

Too bad USC killed Ohio State. I was hoping that they would go down in flames to the Buckeyes. The USC victory is going to hurt local recuirting next year because of the magnitude of the Bruins’ loss. And I was getting so excited after the Bruin victory over the Vols. That makes this loss that much more painful. IMHO the most surprizing (and worst) aspect of the loss is that Chow couldnt get any points on the board. One can only hope that Neu gets his act together for next Saturday and expunges the taint of this loss from the team’s memory.

Well, at least the Dodgers are winning. Go Big Blue!

by Deepcut on Sep 14, 2008 1:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

My Idea Now.

Like Ice skating or diving or whatever…
Let’s throw out our (out of conference) HI and LOW and focus on the real season.
PAC 10 Football!!
I’m still excited about our future with what we have in our present.

by BruinWannabe on Sep 14, 2008 3:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

omg

That is SO weird – I said that to my mom last night! Funny! :)

by uclafan11 on Sep 14, 2008 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A quick thanks

I debated whether to say anything at all, but since you bumped my “Keys” post onto the main page, I thought I should say thanks and good luck. One thing that does surprise me as I was skimming over this board this morning, is how many people are suddenly saying UCLA sucks and the players are no good.

I was 16 rows up in the south endzone, and the “on field” feeling I got was that BYU just played out of their minds (especially the defense), and all the turnovers bounced against you and for us. When the ball is bouncing away from you, the other team is just having a freaky good day, and you’re on the road with a new coaching staff and young offense, things can get out of hand pretty quick.

The good thing is you have two key figures in place: Rick and Norm. And I think they can (and will) develop the players you have and have success even this season. If a guy like Bronco Mendenhall can groom a bunch of “slower” non-BCS conference guys into a Top 20 team, I see great coaches like Rick and Norm doing the same – probably a lot quicker than you think. It’ll be tough, but I wouldn’t throw the UCLA kids under the bus yet.

Best of luck, and thanks for letting me post on such a great team site. I wish every one of our opponents had so much info on hand.

by heyjoe! on Sep 14, 2008 4:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks again for your takes Joe

Good luck rest of this season. I wouldn’t take comments from few as indicative of the entire UCLA fanbase “quitting” on our team. We are going to be all right and stick with our guys no matter what. But we will have no problem reflecting and engaging in discussion on what are our issues and how they can be corrected if not in the short term but in the long run. But we are sticking with our program no matter what.

Good luck again and thanks again for the good back and forth this week.

GO BRUINS.

by Nestor on Sep 14, 2008 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is little to be learned

from a game in which almost everything goes wrong. Analysis yields little. So the only rational course of action is to look ahead. The cliche “one game at a time” is solidly based in practical wisdom. Arizona should become the focus now. I’ll be there Saturday supporting the Bruins win, lose or whatever. I ask only that everyone give what they have to give, and I’m sure they will. No more injuries, I hope! Gradually, the ship will be righted.

by ReineSeite on Sep 14, 2008 7:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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