64-60 in 1971
Bumped. Great story. GO BRUINS. -N
The first UCLA-USC basketball showdown I ever attended was my freshman year, 1971. Younger folks will find this absolutely bizarre, but USC was undefeated and, imagine this, ranked #1 in the nation. Defending NCAA champ Bruins had lost to Notre Dame (incredible Austin Carr performance) and were rated #2. It was a Trojan home game, in the Sports Arena. We visiting students naturally had terrible seats, pretty high up in a corner behind the end line -- but we could see and yell. From interesting article on Trojans' remembrances 25 years later:
USC Athletic Director Jess Hill admitted to making a small mistake in allotting 6,000 tickets to UCLA (4,200 more tickets than UCLA was entitled to) because he didn't expect the turnout.
They had a very talented squad, with Layton (I thought he was the best), Westphal (he came with the ink but didn't seem as good to me), Mackey, Riley (very good), and a couple of others. We merely had Wicks and Rowe and Patterson and Bibby, plus an unsettled guard spot (Booker/Schofield). We of course expected to win. It may have been their home court, but Bruin banners were paraded around the floor: "SC #1? They can't even count that high!" and one about Prothro's upset win in football that year. Also from the same article linked above:
When game time finally did arrive, Traveler--the football horse--was in the Sports Arena.
With 9:30 remaining in the game, SC led by 59-50. UCLA hadn't been playing exceptionally well, obviously, or exceptionally poorly. It didn't feel to us like the game was over. But the Trojan fans were going insane, screaming at us that they were #1.
They never made another basket, Wooden players simply outscoring them 14-1 down the stretch. UCLA went back to #1 in the nation and would stay there through an NCAA record 88-game winning streak.
Meanwhile poor SC had to beat us in Pauley to tie for the conference (they had never lost another game and were ranked #2) and force a playoff game, because in the good old days if you didn't win your conference, you didn't go to the NCAA. We won, of course, so I still have my priority number for the right to buy a ticket for the playoff game -- a lasting souvenir of the famous 64-60 game. Here's hoping the end of the season is the same for Ben's Men.
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The quoted portions are paragraphs 2 and 4; sorry I forgot to Preview first.
Also worth noting is Wooden really wanted Westphal to come to Westwood, and the article says Layton wanted to come but decided not to when UCLA didn’t want to recruit his friend. (A bit different from Tim Floyd putting a non-gifted player on his squad so the rapper will bring along his talented one-and-done buddy.)
by ucla7477 on
Jan 12, 2009 6:06 PM PST
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This is a great read.
Thanks for posting this.
B.F.
by eubruin on
Jan 12, 2009 6:40 PM PST
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nice post
love reading about the history. Interesting coincidence about the score and SC’s scoring drought at the end of the game. Boyd was a good coach but he was no Wizard.
by popopapa on
Jan 12, 2009 7:58 PM PST
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My geezer memory may be getting me
As I recall, justsc’s coach (I think it was Bob Boyd) decided to take Layton out for a short rest, and Coach Wooden responded by having us go into a monumental slowdown and we kept the ball for a long time and Layton didn’t get back in until it was too late. I may be totally wrong on this, but it’s in my memory for some reason.
But that’s not my favorite memory of justsc basketball. There was a year when justsc went 11-0 in non-conference play, and their AD made a big deal about it and what a great coach Boyd was and how he was going to make people forget all about that old-timer in Westwood. And then the AD said “Boyd should be coach of the year even if we never win another game.” Sure enough, justsc went 0-14 in the Pac 8. For some reason, Boyd was not named coach of the year.
I’m not sure at all about memory number 1, but memory number 2 is deeply imbedded.
by Fox 71 on
Jan 12, 2009 8:08 PM PST
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Nice work
enjoyed this post. a lot. it would be great to put together a regular feature during b-ball season with anecdotes like this.
by Karl II on
Jan 12, 2009 8:22 PM PST
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Karl II -- Good Idea -- A Call for Volunteers
I love these posts and stories, too.
To me, they don’t have to be strictly Bruin sports. I was really moved by the Pell Grant stories.
It would be great if more people voluntarily posted up more stuff like this. It may not be “regular” as in the sense of every morning regularity, but I would hope we’d see some stories every week or so.
A lot of it tends to come from the Geezer group. I’d love to hear some stories from the rest of you out there.
sjh
by Class of 66 on
Jan 13, 2009 12:02 PM PST
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Would Love to
Only I was in school during the Lavin years. I have no pleasant basketball memories.
by bruin8uclap on
Jan 13, 2009 7:29 PM PST
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Maybe I can do a weekly post
Since people are interested, I’ll see what I can do about periodic (weekly?) Wooden ’64 – ’75 tidbits.
by ucla7477 on
Jan 13, 2009 5:43 PM PST
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I for one
would really appreciate that. Its always refreshing to hear the different stories from that era from different points of view.
by bruin8uclap on
Jan 13, 2009 8:03 PM PST
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That would be awesome
Would love to hear stories from the past.
by BlueReign on
Jan 14, 2009 12:11 AM PST
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This is a great article
My mom told me about this game, she mentioned how $c was ranked #1 in the nation at one point in time but failed to make the NCAA. It’s a heartwarming read, I’m glad you pointed this out.
Victory or until next year!
by ncrpz2 on
Jan 13, 2009 8:00 AM PST
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Saw that $ยข Team As A Kid
when we were visiting family in LA. Some Stanford friends took me to their game against the Troylettes at the SA. IIRC, they had a big fat fan known as “Jack the Walrus,” who would run around, Traveler-style, with some other geek on his back. Of course, Stanford lampooned his act mercilessly.
In a way, you had to feel sorry for Boyd; none of his best teams got to go to the NCAA’s since they couldn’t win the conference.
by bru79 on
Jan 13, 2009 10:03 AM PST
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Feel sorry for a trOJan?
Outside of the fact that all of their students have to go to their second choice school…NEVAR.
by Tydides on
Jan 13, 2009 10:19 AM PST
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No need to feel sorry for that guy
In 1965, we finished 18-8 and didn’t make the tournament. NO ONE was feeling sorry for us or for coach. We had injuries to our two best guys, but there was no mention of that from Coach.
Boyd was at best a mediocre coach. I just looked at his record. He was 216-131, which is about a 62% percentage. To put that in perspective, CHP was 145-78, for a 65% percentage. Not to put too fine a point on it, but Boyd was worse than CHP.
by Fox 71 on
Jan 13, 2009 12:29 PM PST
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Holding the Ball
Do you remember the game when Boyd had his team hold the ball for minutes at a time — to try to keep the score down and the game close. IIRC, they had a huge center named Taylor, slow but big. He and his team mates just took the ball outside and held it. Coach had it covered. We played some tight D, got the ball and scored. We built a small lead, they still held he ball. Finally, they had to try to win and we shut them down and pulled away. Not a great game to watch. I think the shot clock was a direct result of tactics like that against our team.
I was so frustrated at that game that I said something a bit off color in Boyd’s vicinity, at half time. Not bad off color, something about chicken feces. (That was my yell leader year and I was down on the floor near enough to him to comment.) Later, during the half time JD Morgan came over and with a kind smile on his face told me that I should tone down my criticism a bit.
One of my fondest memories. I got to meet JD Morgan.
sjh
by Class of 66 on
Jan 13, 2009 1:14 PM PST
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Nice article
about that game in SI archives (3 pages).
Remember, too, that games like this (17-14 at halftime) led to the a shot clock, which Coach advocated.
Many spectators, who had paid up to $3.50 to get their only in-the-flesh look at Big Lew (and saw him stand around looking bored, or occasionally bend down, with legs straight, and touch his palms to the floor), screamed for their money back. Coach Boyd was cursed loudly, and a police escort after the game did not prevent him from being spat upon. The Great Stall Debate, somewhat dormant since the college days of Wilt Chamberlain, was on again.
In the UCLA dressing room Coach John Wooden was asked if he thought other opponents would try stalling. “Yes,” he said, “but I don’t think most coaches will try it. Too many coaches think too much of basketball to do it.” Although Wooden insisted he did not mean it that way, it sounded like a knock on Boyd.
I assume that you were not one of the hockers. Just as well—this was before the advent of the three-point loogey.
by Bruinut on
Jan 13, 2009 5:00 PM PST
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I hated Bob Boyd!
He was the one who decided to stall against the UCLA teams that featured Kareem Abdul Jabbar (then Lew Alcindor). In those days there was no shot clock and so he would have his big, oafish center Ron Taylor stand at center court just holding the ball. Wooden insisted that Alcindor stand back by the basket and not come out, so the clock just ticked away. It was so bad that they ran commercials on the radio while play was going on! Unfortunately, the strategy was somewhat successful, as one game went into overtime with UCLA winning and SC won once at Pauley. I remember the signs saying “Stalls Are For Horses!” For this cowardly strategy, Boyd deserves no pity for any pain inflicted upon him by his numerous losses to UCLA!
My favorite Bob Boyd moment actually occurred in an NCAA western regional game at Pauley Pavilion in 1979. Boyd had announced his resignation as SC coach earlier in the year and his team managed to make the playoffs (more than one team from a conference could now participate). They were playing DePaul, featuring Mark Aguirre. It was like a DePaul home game at Pauley, with the crowd overwhelmingly in their favor! As DePaul pulled away near the end, the crowd started chanting “Boyd’s Last Game, Boyd’s Last Game!” He got so frustrated by his team’s play and the officiating that he wound up getting a technical foul, which just spurred on the crowd some more. I thought it was sweet justice for his antics as SC coach over the years!
by bruin7982 on
Jan 13, 2009 1:12 PM PST
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Thanks for the memories
As a geezer, to use the word above, I love going back to that era, especially those Wicks-Rowe teams that weren’t supposed to do anything. It was fun, too, having the rivalries, not only SC, because we always ended up beating them, but some good Long Beach State teams, whom we’d play in the tournament. If not for the champions-only rule, the Bruins would have probably made the tournament every year from 1962 to 1976, when it opened up. The 1963 and 1965 teams were both good enough to get in.
So thanks for the post. I think we geezers have a role to play in bringing back the Wooden era to those who weren’t fortunate enough to be a part of it, just as the youngsters will be telling tales of CBH teams and games thirty-five years from now.
by Herodotus on
Jan 13, 2009 4:35 PM PST
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You're right. I don't believe it.
USC undefeated? Ranked #1 in the nation? Does not compute.
A coach is someone who can give correction without causing resentment. John Wooden
by MexiBruin on
Jan 13, 2009 5:47 PM PST
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It actually happened once before...
From the If you can’t beat ’em, buy ’em dept:
In 1940, the USC basketball team was widely considered to be the best in the nation, and participated in the nascent NCAA tournament; but they lost a chance at the national title when they were upset in the national semifinal at Kansas City, against Kansas, when the son of opposing coach Phog Allen made a basket with seconds left for a one-point victory. Despite the loss, the Helms Athletic Foundation later retroactively selected USC as the 1940 national champions.
http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php?title=Sam_Barry
by ucla7477 on
Jan 13, 2009 6:19 PM PST
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Great Memories for This Geezer
I remember watching that game on TV. It was really hyped and was televised on TVS on a national broadcast …very rare in those days. The other starter for $C was forward Chris Schrobilgen (sp?) and Dana Padgett was their 6th man off the bench.
The Bruins looked dead in the water and the Sports Arena was rocking when the whip came down. When the Bruins got control of the game with less than five minutes to play, Coach Wooden uncharacteristically elected to run out the clock. He had Sidney Wicks stand out near midcourt with the ball. When the dumbfounded Trojies didn’t come out on him, Sidney began to flex his muscles with the arm that wasn’t holding the ball. His mugging for the crowd was the cherry on top.
SI had a feature article on the game. Maybe one of you can find it in SI’s archives and link it up. It really was a very memorable game. Come to think of it, that game may have been the genesis for Just SC.
I too was at the “stall” game at the Sports Arena. IIRC, the game went into OT and a key play in OT was a steal and break-away lay-in by Bruin guard Bill Sweek.
by 78Bruin on
Jan 13, 2009 10:37 PM PST
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I remember that, too.
Didn’t that keep Layton on the bench? Boyd took him out for some reason, and Coach went into a stall and Layton never got back in.
by Fox 71 on
Jan 14, 2009 4:53 AM PST
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Taylor did get to the final 4
We shouldn’t be so hard on the lug. One of my favorite memories from my years at UCLA was the final 4 in 1968. $C was the host school, since the final 4 was at the Sports Arena. As the host school, $C supplied the support staff. So, there under one of the baskets as the ball boy was …Ron Taylor ! How sweet.
That was clearly a great final 4. The payback game against Houston was so one-sided that their live Cougar mascot fell asleep in his cage, and the championship game against UNC was the icing on the cake.
I have no sympathy for $C, or anybody who felt sorry for $C, because their 71 basketball season ended with the last regular season game with only 2 losses, both to UCLA. The same system held true in football (conf champ moves on, everybody else stays home). In football, we were the ones on the short end of the stick. My first UCLA-$C football game as a freshman was the 21-20 missed extra point game. We were clearly one of the top 2 teams in the country, and our season ended at the end of the regular season.
So sympathy for the devil? Never.
by islandbruin on
Jan 14, 2009 6:54 AM PST
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1st Half: UCLA 59, USC 13--What year?
My memory has faded because I am a member of the Geezer Club. I was an undergrad at UCLA when Walton and Silky Wilkes blew away a Gus Williams led USC team 59 to 13 in the first half. I don’t even remember the final score or what year this happened—just that it was an unbelievably machine like performance by Coach Wooden’s boys that I have never seen in all my life. Can anybody help out with the details of that game?
by bruin75 on
Jan 14, 2009 10:22 PM PST
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