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"Obviously Good", and with Something to Prove

One thing I really appreciate about UCLA's basketball team is the sense of realistic expectations with the simultaneous down-to-earth drive for greatness.  This is a killer combination.

On the one hand, UCLA is a growing team trying to live up to three straight Final Fours and a top-ten ranking.  The resume shows only one win over a NCAA tournament team (USC), and there is some sense that the team hasn't really survived the kind of tests that will push them deep into the NCAA Tournament.  At least not yet.  So, putting top-10 rankings aside, it is hard to argue against those bracketologists (Lunardi, for one)  who have us as a 4 or 5 seed in the NCAA Tournament.  That is where we should be right now.  But in what I find to be a breath of fresh air, you don't hear our team talking about how such predictions are "disrespectful," or some other nonsense.  No, I'd bet the team thinks such predictions are fair--and that it's up to them to earn something better.  They are realistic in terms of what has been earned so far, but working hard for something better.

On the other hand, is there any question that UCLA is "obviously good"?  There is a lot of talent on this team, with players improving all the time and getting better.  Drew Gordon, Drago, and Roll have all taken remarkable strides this year, doing all that anybody can ask--making the most of their opportunities.  And J.Anderson and Holiday are also playing great, and getting better.  Indeed, there is no question that UCLA is "obviously good," even if their current resume doesn't necessarily speak to them being a top-seed in the NCAA tournament.  They might not have a bunch of  "quality wins" right now, but there will be opportunities.  Fast and Furious, those opportunities will come over the next three weeks.

Arizona is always a tough game, and it will always mean something--even if Arizona doesn't look like the power of 5 years ago.  And ASU is the opportunity for the kind of quality win the team needs to meet their goals.  And then we are on the road for two more games, WSU and Washington, before taking on Stanford and Cal.  Tough, Tough, Tough, and Tougher.

Three weeks in the Pac-10 are always crucial.  An eternity.  But with this team, teetering on greatness, with only quality wins against quality opponents between them and a justifiable top-5 ranking (and top-3 seed), I think these three weeks are even more exciting. I think this team is relishing the opportunity to play great.  I think the opportunity excites them.  I think under their cloak-of-controlled-emotions is a fire to get back to the Final Four.

We will learn a lot about this team in the next three weeks.  Perhaps more than at any other time this year.  I expect some quality wins, probably a tough loss, but a solid performance night in and night out.  And, particularly after the ASU game, I expect more talk about the Pac-10 player of the year.  Sure Harden might be deserving, but it will be tough to ignore Darren Collison after the next three weeks.  I'm not giving Harden anything until someone shows me that Harden is better and more important to ASU than Collison is to the Bruins.  Same goes to those putative Players of the Year out there:  watch out for D.C.

UCLA plays hard, they don't talk, and they get better every day.  Most importantly, I have a sense that the team demands more out of itself then do its fans, who see the youth and promise and forgive mistakes more easily.  Yes, I like this team:  "Obviously Good," and (luckily) with Something to Prove.

Go Bruins

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of BruinsNation's (BN) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of BN's editors.

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i disagree we should be a 4 or 5 seed

We are clearly the favorite to win the conference. When has the pac 10 champion ever been a 4 or 5 seed? Plus we are currently a top 10 team. I think we are currently a 3 seed. That can change, but I think putting us anything less than that is just silly.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Jan 14, 2009 10:29 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Sigh...

1996 my friend. We were the regular season Pac-10 champs. Got a 4 seed in the Southeast Region, and Harrick’s whining set us up for a loss to Princeton in the first round. Yeah, he was somewhat justified, as Arizona didn’t win the Pac-10…but got a 3 seed in the West. But still, that’s not what inspires a team. That was a sad moment in UCLA basketball…Toby Bailey…Cameron Dollar…Charles O’Bannon…J.R. Henderson…couldn’t friggin’ stop a backdoor cut…sigh…

But hey, what do I know. I’m just the 800 lbs bruin in the room.

by tasser10 on Jan 14, 2009 11:02 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

good point, but check out our 7-5 out of conference record

 that year:

November 20, 1995 Santa Clara L 78-69
November 21, 1995 Wisconsin W 68-57
November 22, 1995 Vanderbilt L 75-71
November 28, 1995 Cal St Fullerton W 79-63
December 2, 1995 Kansas L 85-70
December 9, 1995 Maryland W 73-63
December 18, 1995 Stephen Austin W 109-88
December 20, 1995 Notre Dame W 83-58
December 23, 1995 UNLV W 89-82
December 30, 1995 USF W 93-58
January 27, 1996 Louisville L 78-76
February 25, 1996 Duke L 85-66

that was the issue.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Jan 14, 2009 7:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with

almost all of your sentiments. The thing that strikes me the most about this team is the humbleness and lack of self-entitlement. You mentioned that this is a team that doesn’t “talk”. Although this has been a key characteristic of all Ben Howland teams, I think it is particularly true of this year’s team. Perhaps it is due to the unique make up of our Fab-5 Freshmen coupled with a remarkably experienced group of “senior” players. I certainly think that going to the Final-Four 3 years in a row negates the need to “talk” smack before games. Its a sort of scoreboard mentality that dominates this team. And I love it.

B.F.

by eubruin on Jan 14, 2009 1:18 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I have no problem with us as a #4 or #5 seed right now

Take a look at who we’ve beaten. We have one quality win. That’s it. Our only quality win right now is over Miami (OH). We had two other chances to pick up quality win, but we lost to Texas and Michigan. Now, our scheduling philosophy is to do whatever it takes to prepare for conference play so if we are adequately prepared for conference play, we’ll pick up wins over Cal, Arizona St., Washington and Stanford. That would be anywhere from 3 to 8 more quality wins and all of a sudden we look like a 2 or 3 seed. Right now, we don’t deserve to be higher than #4 or #5. If we pick up wins over the 4 teams I mentioned and win the Pac 10 yet are still a #4 or #5 seed after the Pac 10 tournament, then we’ll have a gripe, but right now it’s fair.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Jan 14, 2009 1:53 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Location, not Seed

I think is the key. If we take care of business and win the Pac-10 outright and have a good showing in the Pac-10 tournament then even if we end up as a #4 seed but stay in the Portland/Phoenix bracket it wouldn’t be all that bad. Also, don’t forget we still have a chance for a big quality win when Notre Dame comes to town.

by turs12 on Jan 14, 2009 7:58 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I agree, location is (a) key

However, I would really love to see UCLA in Boise (West, Sub-region). 1995, Tyus, Boise, Missouri, Taco Bell Arena, Magic!

Can’t you just see Howland talking about how the last time we were in Boise, we went all the way??

The only problem with the Boise Sub-Region is that it is a Friday / Sunday region, and Portland is a Thursday / Saturday region. My guess is Howland would prefer a Thursday / Saturday region—because it is like our schedule in the Pac-10.

But in any case, location isn’t the only key. Remember the Lavin years when a #4 seed was the best we could do, and recall all those Sweet 16 losses. Those weren’t surprising, since a #4 seed has to play a #1 in the Sweet 16. I am confident that the NCAA Tournament Committee will fairly place UCLA in the Tourney, but I am hoping that we can earn a top 3 seed—so that we can avoid a #1 until the Elite 8.

Of course, we have a long way to go before we can meaningfully talk about this year’s Tourney.

by rfirpo on Jan 15, 2009 7:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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