Having Fun Yet?
I still have to go back to a discussion we had a little earlier in the season about whether we are having fun this year given the fact this year’s team didn’t come into the season with the kind of expectations that were around the one around last year? We had a discussion about whether people are having fun watching a young team gel, grow and develop an identity while rest of us remain unsure about how far they can really go rest of this season.
I also want to go back to the Michigan post game thread earlier this season when several drive by commenters (who don’t usually participate in the discussion in this community) came by to whine and complain about Coach Howland’s offense and bloviated about the offensive adjustments he supposedly has to make despite the track record he has compiled as the second most successful coach in the history of UCLA basketball:
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Then of course there are all those usual whines about scheduling as we routinely have to hear how Coach Howland is not putting together an exciting schedule for some people’s personal enjoyment at Pauley.
So with that context in mind I’d like to hear if there is anyone out there who is not enjoying what has been methodically transpiring infront of our own eyes this basketball. Ben Ball warriors offered up another standard beat down of Arizona last night in the house that Coach Wooden built. Last night was FUN. What was most fun for me was to watch the ball movement. Coach Howland was happy:
"We did a really good job of attacking their zone, making the extra pass," Coach Ben Howland said. "I thought there was some really nice passing going on."That translated into an efficient offense, the Bruins shooting 59.6% from the field with five players scoring in double figures. A struggling and unranked Arizona team couldn't keep pace and lost to UCLA for the eighth time in a row. "We did a really good job of attacking their zone, making the extra pass," Coach Ben Howland said. "I thought there was some really nice passing going on."
Just how efficient were the Ben Ball warriors? From Brian Dohn:
The unselfish Bruins had 20 assists on 28 baskets, and were 7 of 17 from 3-point range.
This was a total team win. Some more fun numbers and poignant comment from Coach Howland in the LA Times:
Dragovic, getting his second consecutive start, led the Bruins with 15 points. Shipp had 13. Collison, Aboya and Roll had 12 each, with Aboya grabbing 12 rebounds for the first double-double of his college career."We have a team where anybody could go off and get 20-plus points," Howland said. "When you have that kind of balance, it really is hard to defend."
I thought the whole team was sensational last night. I mean really. I don’t want to praise ND too much. I am afraid to jinx him any way and get him tooo comfortable. Yet last night was probably his best game as a Ben Ball warrior. It’s clear now that he is more confident in his defensive abilities he is looking less hurried on the offensive side. I also get the feeling watching him that as he has developed the mentality of going inside to look for points, it is settling him down around the perimeter. He is playing without the desperation vibe that came off his game last two years when everytime he came in he was immediately looking for those easy threes. Instead he is now looking to pick up points around the paint, developing an inside-outside game.
Exact same thing is happening with MR too. MR has been increasingly taking it to the rack as other teams are respecting his outside shot. It’s beautiful to watch how our wings are attacking the zone. They are not settling for the easy jump shots any more. They are making that extra pass and looking for opportunity to attack the rim. What I am seeing from this team right now is the potential to develop into one of the most fun UCLA offenses I have seen in my life time. They are not there yet. But you can see the signs.
Then again it kind of goes back to Coach Howland. DC directly credited CBH’s scheduling as one of the main reason Ben Ball warriors have lately looked so prepared against zone defenses:
"I thought our play against the zone was really good," Collison said. "We've been playing (against zones) for the last two or three months, and by now we should understand how to beat a zone. Whatever they throw at us, we should know how to attack it."
So just keep this in mind when we hear some newbie on BN whine and moan about Coach Howland scheduling some mid-major team at Pauley.
Going back to DC I am not sure what can I add this point to praise his game. He is playing at a different level. At this level he is starting to get to the point where he is becoming more than just a basketball player. He is turning his game into art. It’s just pretty to watch how he is conducting this offense. He is deadly from the outside, smooth driving through the lane. Allright … I get the fact that he has now gotten stuffed two our of last three games when he tried to dunk. lol But does it really matter? He gets fouled and basically gives us more free points. He is also taking his team-mate’s game to whole another level. That goes back to the emergence of MR and ND as scoring threats (both from inside and out). Teams now just have way too many poisons to chose from when deciding how to stop this Howland offense.
Speaking of weapons JS continues to step up. His block at the middle of the second half was spectacular. He also jump started our fast start by connecting from long range. Josh was smooth and efficient. I also love DC and JS running the floor on our fast breaks. You can sense the chemistry between these two seniors. Again, I haven’t sense this kind of chemistry since the senior days of Tyus and Ed. I am relishing every moment of it.
Yet despite all the talk about our offense, as CBH mentioned it started with our defense. It started with the defensive pressure our guards were putting around the perimeter. It was interesting last night. Jordan Hill went off against us. We thought he’d be a huge key for the Zona. He was fairly unstoppable at times scoring 22 points, shooting 10 out of 15. But that was it. The rest of his team-mates went 14 out 40 shooting 35%.
Hill’s offensive exoplosion didn’t matter much at the end. I didn’t think AA2 and rest of our front court played soft inside. AA2 was anything but. As tele described properly he was an "animal" notching the first double-double of his storied (storied in my book) career as a Ben Ball warrior. He was relentless around the boards. So was DG and JK had some decent moments as well. It was just that Hill is an incredibly talented athlete who had a great individual night while the Ben Ball warriors collectively put together another total team effort.
Speaking of our team, I have to go back to the infamous Nic Wise comment about beating us in Pauley from about a month ago. When that comment was fanshotted and frontpaged here on BN, there were some disagreements about whether it was standard trash talk we have gotten used to from Tucson. Well looks like there was no disagreement from a motivated DC:
They seemed particularly enthusiastic entering the game against UCLA, with guard Nic Wise telling an Arizona newspaper in December: "That's one thing we focus on every day in practice -- Pauley Pavilion."Said Collison of the bulletin-board material: "That's really what motivated us to play real hard."
And a fired up JS who went out there with the mindset of proving a point:
Wise did not help Arizona in this matchup, scoring five points on 1-of-8 shooting."You try not to say things like that to get other teams motivated," Shipp said. "That was extra motivation for us. We definitely wanted to go out there and prove a point."
Hopefully JS, DC and rest of their team-mates will come out with the same mindset on Saturday afternoon against an ASU team led by superstars Hardin and Pendergrpah that many believe will be unseating UCLA as the champion of Pac-10 this season. Those guys will come into Pauley wounded and desperate after a tough loss against the Trojies. Let's hope our warriors continue to prove a point:
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The question I will throw up for you meanwhile … are you having fun?
GO BRUINS.
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Having Fun in AZ
As a die-hard Bruin fan in the Valley of the Sun, I Love the fact that Ben Howland’s team isn’t ‘sexy’. They played focused, tough defense and share the ball on offense. It’s NOT about who’s getting the press or scoring the MOST points. It’s NOT about the drama that you read about on some high profile team. It’s about recruiting kids who are excellent basketball players/athletes who are willing to work hard, play Defense 1st, involve everyone on the offensive end and continue the ‘commitment to excellence’ at UCLA. Go Bruins!
Another AZ Bruin!
I haven’t seen anyone else here that lives in Phoenix…have you found a UCLA bar yet?
Go Bruins.
And yet another one
arizona bruin that is. Easily the most balanced game of the year, we are getting together at the right time. Really a testament to the coaching staff to get this team to be this ready, this early. Do the howland teams remind anyone else of a strategic heavyweight fighter; essentially, they wear teams down with defense, and are so conditioned they don’t lose a step, allowing them to attack and annihilate later in the games. Really incredible how consistent coach is, very happy with the state of our major programs right now.
UCLA Bar
I sent an to the UCLA AZ Bruins club when looking for a sports bar to watch the Final Four last year. Here’s the reply:
Hello David,
No get-together is planned at this time.
If something developes this week, we will send you an update.
AZ Bruins
~~~~~~~
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008
“Thompson, David” <David.Thompson@Avnet.com>
writes:
Greetings,
My son and I live in Scottsdale and we went to the West Regional Final on Saturday at the US Airways Center (it was AMAZING!). Is there a sports bar or restaurant where Bruins fans go to watch sports? We would like to watch the Final Four with other Bruin Faithful?
If you are more successful than I am please let me know.
David Thompson
djthompson05@gmail.com
YES!
How could you not have fun watching a performance like that, all the way down to Bobo Morgan coming in off the end of the bench and having a couple of phenomenal minutes? What can you say about a team that has athletes eleven deep? Now that the threes are falling, CBH can rotate MR, ND, and JS. DC, of course, is deadly, too, and JK is a fine shooter. How about the job JS did on the vaunted Budinger when JH went out with fouls? He got some points, but mostly he disappeared from the game toward the end of the first half.
ASU won’t be as easy. I can’t imagine Harden will have two bad games, but if any defense can stop him, its ours.
Go Bruins!
Excellent Team Chemistry
The guys really seem to enjoy playing with each other, passes and shots are all a beautifully choreographed display to behold. This is the most enjoyable and entertaining offense since Coach Ben has come to Westwood, if the post D can improve we will really have something come March.
Go Bruins!
Too Much Fun!
Stayed up way too late last night to watch the player interviews.
Great write up, Nestor.
I’m really enjoying watching kids with great character grow individually and as a team.
It is hard not to smile when you see JS smiling and just enjoying all that is around him.
Some of the players have said that this team’s chemistry is the best they’ve experienced. When you consider that there are a lot of new guys on the team, that’s really special. There are so many little signs of this — cutaways to the bench where you see guys supporting each other and those on the floor. The continuation of Coach’s “acknowledgement” of an assist is sincere not just mechanical.
The totally unselfish play is refreshing. I am so impressed by JH who, if he really is a one and done, is not into self-aggrandizement and is unselfish and team oriented. Compare him to OJ2 who knew he was going and shot almost every time he touched the ball.
I agree with whoever posted on the thread last night that this team may be CBH’s best coaching job to date. For all his intensity and focus, it is fun to watch him coach, to listen to him shouting out instructions, and to see him never relax or get comfortable.
sjh
Speaking of Fun
I think it’s clear that our players are having fun — not just winning but having fun.
Interesting that Lute recruited against us by telling kids that they would not have “fun” playing for CBH. He equated fun with shooting and scoring points.
Did Budinger look like he was having fun last night?
sjh
Rhetorical????
The question almost seems so. It was even more fun to catch it live. Pauley was electric. Best crowd of the year.
A couple of highlights for me:
1) Malcom Lee’s dunk. He almost jumped over the defender. Many thought it could have been a charge around me, but it was just spectacular.
2) JK had some nice put backs in the paint. A jumper at the top of the key as the team broke down the zone and another off a rebound after a miss from the middle of the key. I had been critical of him early for being tenative offensively especially after an o-rebound. Good to see he was aggressively knocking down open looks.
3) AA2 – no one around us could believe he had the offensive production he had. He quietly had a nice offensive game and was a beast on the boards. Donny Mac said it best on the radio: “Alfred just brings his lunch pail every game and goes to work.”
Great game and a good victory.
Very, very fun team to watch.
Howland
Here is Howlands basic philosophy:
1) Team must play excellent man to man defense
2) Team must play the offensive style that allows them to do #1 successfully and gives them the best chance to win.
At Northern Arizona, Howland had high scoring fast paced teams on offense because it fit his players. At Pitt, he had a slow deliberate style because it fit his players. Same his first few years at UCLA, but as the offensive talent and depth have increased, he has allowed the offense to pick up the pace, and you have seen higher scoring games.
Howland’s coaching style is Hard nose man to man defense+ offense that works best for his players I don’t know why people don’t get that…
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"
by silverlakebruin on Jan 16, 2009 8:00 AM PST reply actions
Yes, It Was a Nice Game to Watch... but
I hope we are not getting too overconfident. This year Pac-10 teams are not that strong compared to a lot of the teams out there; however, we are improving each time we took the floor. True, we are way better than the team when we played Michigan and Texas. So, let’s play one game at a time, don’t think we are already a final-4 team. I really enjoyed last night’s game. I thought everyone is playing well.
I love it
I especially love the fact that we keep drilling Arizona.
I’m old enough to remember Sean Elliott killing us and hordes and hordes of Zonies/Zoners flocking to Pauley every year and chanting that creative “U of A” chant over and over and over. It made me almost long to hear a certain annoying song played over and over and over. Almost but not quite.
By the way I happen to really like Elliott and thought he was all class, but I love beating Arizona and always will.
I'm having a TON of fun
Last night’s game was great. It was fun to watch and overall enjoyable. Everyone played well and contributed. And Jrue getting into foul trouble didn’t hurt us, as someone else came off the bench and pitched in.
Let the team enjoy it overnight, and then today it’s back to work – we have ASU coming through, and probably a very annoyed James Harden to deal with.
Im lovin every minute!
I wasnt able to watch the game last night due to prior arrangements, but I just finished watching the highlights and I have to say that I am impressed with not only our players but with our leader, Coach Howland, as well. The coach’s poise and class has rubbed off on the players.
There was one piece of video footage that made me smile more than the others. Its from the end of the game when CBH put the freshmen five in to get some valuable minutes. JM got a few dishes and after one of them he breaks out into a big ’ol smile. Gotta love these kids for representing us with class and honor!
Go Bruins!
Fun fun fun!
It was great watching the game and watching how everyone has developed!
ALWAYS!
Personally, I feel CBH’s best coaching job was his 2nd year when he took a team comprised of holdovers and FR’s to the NCAA’s. Even with my Blue & Gold glasses on, I did not expect that at all.
We’re jellin’ and getting better. Good points on ND & MR, N. They are diversifying their games. They are doing other things instead of just being long ranger bombers. The FR are really improving. They look a lot more comfortable out there. Keep on improving guys.
Definitely fun!
Ben Howland nearly cracked a smile on multiple occasions from last night’s game.
Everyone played well and ND has really improved in the last few games on both sides of the court.
I'm Bobby, a Bay Area Bruin.
Watching this team is fun.
Having fun is not quite synonymous with winning. If we play well and lose (and that could happen — another team might just play better), I can’t envision that as being “fun,” but it should be. As long as our guys give it their best shot, we should enjoy watching that, and that’s fun.
So yeah, I’m having fun. And this will be a fun basketball year no matter where we finish.
There is Nothing Like Watching a Master
Howland is a master coach. He inspires me to be better at everything I do. Everyone around him plays to their potential. Our players never make excuses. They always behave. He is always classy and supports his players, every time, all the time.
The most fun part of this is that this is what we can expect for a long, long time with CBH at the helm.
The Definition of "Fun"
Randomly….
I still love Shipp’s smile, and he absolutely deserves the fun he’s having. He is exactly where he belongs.
On that, DC demonstrates true leadership of this team—responsibility and hard work, not “status.” This TEAM has poise, astounding focus and rhythm.
ND is quietly determined to demonstrate his work ethic and his dedication to the game.
JK is also quietly dangerous, very James Bond of him.
AA2’s double-double…inevitable when you consider the way he has been developing his game.
MR is beyond fun to watch, face it. He was as smooth as silk last night.
DG and ML show a ton of personality, without showing off.
JA is looking like he loves nothing more than playing real defense.
Really, JH is remarkable in his total committment to the team, and lack of arrogance and selfishness.
Was there anything more fun than watching Bobo play in this game?
Like a fine car, this group has more than one gear, on both ends of the floor. I usually don’t notice this happening until tournament time, and then only with the real contenders.
All in all, it boils down to these three simple things:
Coaching,
Coaching, and
Coaching.
Love My Bruins
All good so far, but...
I do note that we haven’t played the other top contenders in the conference yet. The Pac-10 teams that we’ve beaten are currently 5th (USC), 7th (Arizona), 9th (Oregon State) and 10th (Oregon) in the conference. In conference games against opponents other than UCLA, those four teams have a combined record of 5-10.
The upcoming stretch of four games (ASU at home, at the Washington schools, and then Cal at home) will give us a fuller picture of how we stand relative to the upper half of the Pac-10.
So, definitely… I loved the game last night and love how this team is coming together. But the going gets much tougher, starting tomorrow.
by Dexter Fishmore on Jan 16, 2009 9:48 AM PST reply actions
Having Fun!
Wow, two games in a row on TV out here in the Southeast! Even in HD! A little tired from having to stay up so late, but that goes with the territory. I get tired of having to watch Duke and NC all the time…
My only (uninformed) question is how do you stop a big guy like Hill in the future (i.e., tournament time)? It’s not like any of his teammates could hit a bucket last night. Or, since he is the only guy lighting it up, do you just let him have his dunks and shut everyone else down?
Strategy : same as last night
I think you have to do the same as last night. Double team Hill when you can but he’s going to get his points because he is darn good. So make sure you try to shut down the others.
Great game for all
Last night was simply an amazing display of Ben Ball. Yes it is true that the teams we have beaten so far aren’t the top of the league, but you can’t win a game much more convincingly than we did last night.
Not only was it a great game for UCLA, but it was also a great game for our players, especially JS, AA2, and DC. I say this because I noticed there were quite a few NBA scouts at Pauley last night (likely there to see how Hill and Budinger could handle teams that play real defense). DC was his normal controlled brilliant self so no surprise there. But JS and AA2 had great games both defensively and offensively. I felt that this was one of the first games in a long time that JS let the game come to him and just played in the flow with great results. AA2 was dominant on the boards and showed some good offensive moves and drawing fouls which shows he could be a valuable garbage man in the NBA or some other league.
And yes, I am having FUN!!!
Not really
CBH’s offense is blah blah blah;) Who can’t have fun with the improvement this team has shown, can actually say it’s exciting, more so when you imagine in your mind’s ear the swish of three pointers.
I am reminded of a quote by Clark Griswold
“We’re all gonna have so much f’ing fun we’ll need plastic surgery to remove our g@#-dam# smiles.”
Yes, it’s fun. I heard Chase Budinger may become the next spokesman for Charmin because he’s so doggone soft.
I haven’t seen a Bruin team this consistently good on offense since 1995. It is fun, even elegant to watch the crisp passing of Roll and Holiday (man, he knows how to fling a chest pass), the filling of the hole in the zone defense at the free throw line by Keefe, Roll and others, the extra pass around the perimeter to find the open man for the wide open 3 pointer, the penetration by Collison to dish or score, the assuredness of all of our players that they don’t need to rush as the shot clock winds down and that any of them can knock down the shot.
Three examples last night of shot clock awareness that were just fantastic: (1) Lee was bottled up at 3 seconds left and found Dragovic on the wing, who finished at the hoop with a fingeroll with a second to spare. (2) Anderson dishing to Alfred who dunked just as the clock expired. , right before the half. (3) Holiday getting the ball at the 3-point line with under 2 seconds on the shot clock and calmly dribbling to his right and swishing a 17 footer with a hand in his face.
It used to be that Collison was the king of the shot clock expiration dagger, but now the whole team is getting involved.
In short, I am enjoying watching this team play so much that I am not concerned with where we end up the season, the ride to get there is where it’s at.
Finally, as much fun as I am having, I still think that Howland should schedule more challenging opponents in the nonconference schedule. Nestor’s comments made me realize what was going on: He schedules opponents for their style of play, not their quality of play. One could say that playing against these teams does help us develop as a team, it conjures up the image of what we seemed to be watching throughout much of the nonconference schedule: televised scrimmages. Scheduling challenging games (even middle tier major conference opponents and a few mid majors instead of the low majors that we saw all the time) does two things for us: (1) it engages the fan base, and (2) it improves our strength of schedule and opportunities for quality non-conference wins, which will help our seeding at tournament time. Now that the Pac-10 is having an off year, I worry that we will be seeded unfavorably because of our strength of schedule. Or should I say, I would worry if I wasn’t having so much fun watching the team play.
Here's the thing tho (re: scheduling)
Had we been able to beat Michigan, we would have finished the year with a nonconference schedule consisting of:
Michigan (neutral court)
Duke (neutral court)
@Texas
Notre Dame
That’s not too shabby of a resume. I think when it comes to seeding, the one thing that might hurt us is that the Pac-10 is in a down year. But we shall see.
I do however wish that we would schedule a bigger “name” opponent for the Wooden Classic; and I’d also like to see a better undercard matchup for any invitational which bears the Coach’s name.
by insomniacslounge on Jan 16, 2009 6:15 PM PST up reply actions
The scoring distribution
is so pleasing. At the end of last year, were very two dimensional in scoring with DC and KL seemingly taking every shot. Everyone else seems to be looking for their shots now, and thats gonna be enormously important with the loss of KL’s offense.
a great win, Go Bruins!
O.A.
Distribution last night was amazing
The other thing that impressed me was that with all of that ball movement, we rarely took a ‘bad’ shot the entire game (a quick 3 by either Anderson or Lee sticks out in my mind and that’s it)- even in situations where the shot clock was winding down.
by insomniacslounge on Jan 16, 2009 6:39 PM PST up reply actions

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