Can't Take The Easy Way Out
Bruins go down against the Huskies in Seattle ... AGAIN. They came out firing getting off to an early lead thanks to hot shooting from JS. Despite a Husky rally they held on to one point half time till the Huskies took control and put the game away in second half. Here is the box score if you want to browse through.
Now I feel everyone's frustrations with the SPTRing we saw in this game. I really do. I watched every minute of this game even though I was away from today's game thread. But we have to be honest with ourselves. We didn't lose tonight because of questionable and inconsistent calls from SPTRs. That excuse doesn't work. At least not for me. We are not the only victims of SPTRs. These clowns victimize every other team in the conference. But blaming our loss on them is taking the easy way out. I can't do that.
IMHO the main reason we lost tonight because the Huskies WANTED it more. They are the ones who adjusted to the SPTRS and more importantly attacked and executed on offense while taking care of business on the defensive end. Sure Romar, Dollar being the former UCLA assistants they are somehow get their troops fired up for this game every year. They were inspired and played with determination all afternoon long. So hats off to them.
For us ... the question for everyone in our team ... including the seniors who have had to take over leadership roles from Ben Ball legends such as AA, LRMAM, JF, and RW, and the talented freshmen who have come in with the lot of hope ... the question becomes ... how badly they want to play like prototype Ben Ball warriors and show that lockdown determination on defense, leading to so many clutch wins over the years.
They can't take the easy way out by knocking down pretty jumpers from the three point line. They have to attack the rim and attack on defense playing the kind of on ball defense AA and RW made legendary during their times as Howland coached warriors. I haven't seen that from this team yet. Oh I believe they will get there eventually. And I am enjoying watching this team grow up:
Photo Credit: AP Photo/Elaine Thompson
Yet, I hope the veterans and talented freshmen in this team understand and appreciate how their recent predecessors stepped. They did it the hard way. They didn't do it by shooting smooth jumpers. They did it by playing DEFENSE FIRST and attacking the rim on the other ends of the court. They did it by imposing their will on their opponents with their defensive intensity.
For this team to live up to the standards of previous Ben Ball teams, they have to stop worrying about defending a Pac-10 championship and instead focus on playing smart and start ATTACKING on both sides of the court. They need to want "it" more than the other team. Can they do it? Guess we will find out on Thursday night. I have more notes from today which I will put up sometime tomorrow. For now though I think this team needs to realize it can't take the easy way out.
GO BRUINS.
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let's be honest with ourselves
It’s a down year. It’s a rebuilding year. Aboya is playing his heart out but is completely overmatched game after game. I don’t even see us winning the Pac-10 this year. The sharks smell the blood and are feasting…
by Bruinsmo on Jan 24, 2009 7:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Some Thoughts
Great post, Nestor. I agree with your sentiments. Here are few of my thoughts:
1. Why didn’t DC take it to Dentmon and try to get his fourth (and fifth) foul? JA came in and took it to him right away and drew the foul. DC seems psyched out and has lost faith in his ability to get to the basket. Either that or the opposing coaches have figured out how to stop him. At this point I’d prefer to see him getting called for charging than always pulling the ball back out to half court. And I’d like to see what happens if we have JH or JA run the point and DC move over to the 2 for some stretches.
2. Defense—the one-sided calls didn’t help, but our defensive intensity seems to have significantly dropped off in the 2nd half the last few games. Are we tired? I thought Gordon was playing great—why didn’t he play through his 5th foul? And what about ML—is his knee still bothering him so he cannot be a defensive stopper?—he barely played again.
3. Rebounding—great team effort for most of the game by the Bruins against a very strong Huskies team.
4. Roll—what happened to Roll? He’s gone missing after starting the season very strong.
5. Confidence—I see a lot of the problem here starting with DC, but it seems to have carried over to the rest of the team. Rather than putting fear into our opponents, we seem scared on offense, back on our heels rather than being the aggressor. It seems almost like CBH has also lost some of his mojo.
6. Halftime Adjustments—this is typically one of CBH’s strong points, but in the last few games it seems as if we are being outcoached in the 2nd half. Don’t get me wrong, I think the world of Coach Howland, but I’m curious what has shifted here.
The one benefit of our recent poor play is that my expectations have significantly dropped. I had my eye on another Final Four but now I feel like I will be happier with each win and won’t be as shocked at a loss.
Bruins Forever
by bruinsince69 on Jan 24, 2009 8:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Rebounding
Agree with all of it except this. Yes, I know the stats were close, but really look at our guys in this game (and the WSU game as well) when the ball is coming down, especially on the defensive end. We simply do not block out and the next time Nic has a body on someone will be the first time. Brockman has far too easy access to the ball to put back his own shot. Sometimes a guy will still beat a good blockout with a good move, but far too often we simply do not block out at all.
by Free the 16 on Jan 26, 2009 10:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed on some points mentioned above
I kept waiting for DC to take it to Dentmon when he came back with 3 fouls. Didn’t really happen.
Having watched every single game last year, I was confident that we will pull off a win when games are close late in the 2nd half. Even if the offense are stagnant, we always lock down on crunch time posessions. CMIIW but our losses this year has been in close games..games that happened all the time last year but we won them by good defense.
I think the game today was the highest tempo game we have played all year. That was not Ben Ball tempo. We took too many quick shots and showed impatience in offense.
by drebruin on Jan 24, 2009 8:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Disagree
Ordinarily I would agree with you, Nestor. I usually think it is chickenshit to blame the referees for any loss. If it is close enough for you to blame the referees for a loss, then you should not be blaming the referees.
Not this time.
The referees’ impact on this game cannot be understated. Every time Isiah Thomas touched the ball in the first half and well into the second, he got a call. Brockman nails Aboya in the head with a forearm shiver and what was the call? Foul on Holiday. Shipp drives the lane and gets hammered by not 1, but 2 huskies. Any call? Of course not. Every time somebody even breathed on Brockman, he got a call. And let’s not forget the worst call of the night. Foul called on Washington, but just to make things “even”, the SPTR’s called a technical on Aboya. A TECHNICAL? REALLY? For walking by and saying something? Aboya could have accused that guy of manning the glory hole in the park restroom down the street from the arena and calling a technical in that situation still would have been inappropriate. It was ridiculous.
The officiating was so bad, UCLA had to adjust to officiating, not the other team. When that happened, the officiating affected the game in an inexcusable manner. That is why I am so f’ing pissed off right now.
Stevie Wonder, Ray Charles and a homeless guy in a wheel chair could have done a better job than the three embarrassing losers out there tonight.
Look, we know that UCLA does not have the same dominating team we have had the last couple of years. At least not yet (keep getting the freshmen playing time, and I like our chances come tourney time). But this was a fucking outrage.
This just in: it was a three way tie for players of the game:
Dave Libby
Milt Stowe
Tom Wood
P.S. I apologize if I am the 900th guy on BN tonight to call out the referees, but I just watched the game tape-delayed and jumped in right here to vent.
by Karl II on Jan 24, 2009 8:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Libby and Wood
Those guys are 2 of the worst officials.
by UCLA4Life on Jan 24, 2009 10:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Foul calls
were more about the Huskies willing to work the ball inside. I agree the refs need to be called out with the big difference in foul shots taken, but this was the 3rd game in a row where we disappeared with 8 minutes to play in the 2nd half. Wasted a great offensive effort by Shipp. Better to focus on how to finish these tough Pac 10 games and forget about the refs.
by Vanman7475 on Jan 24, 2009 9:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Difficult to decide
If it were ONLY this game in a vacuum, I would blame the refs for our loss. It is hard to drive when you get hammered on the inside without any calls. It is hard to defend when any slight touch (and sometimes no touch) gets called. It is absolutely unfair when only one team on the court gets to play physically offensively and defensively.
However, this game was not in a vacuum. For the past 3 games, we have been tentative as a team. This is both in terms of driving and defense. I think that the good 3 point shooting earlier this season masked these two weaknesses … and I am glad that this must be addressed now rather than during the tourney a la Duke. Therefore, it is apparent that we cannot blame the defense and the lack of driving on the refs.
What is the conclusion? UW drove more, so they deserved to have more FTs than us. They did NOT deserve to have 3x more free throws than us, resulting in a 26 pt differential. However, it is the responsibility of our team to make sure that they do not deserve to have more FTs than us in the first place.
by dokein on Jan 24, 2009 9:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
random thoughts
1. I felt that Bobo Morgan looked pretty good in his limited minutes. Especially on the offensive end. And, he was also the only big to stay out of foul trouble. Now, I don’t know if this means that his defensive intensity wasn’t good enough which resulted in his lack of fouls.
2. Coach say “Be your best when your best is needed.” To me, JS embodies this. It seems like every big game (particularly the ones we lose) Josh steps up with some big shots. I do wish though, that he would put the ball on the floor and slash to the basket when things aren’t going well.
3. Holiday confuses me. He goes quiet so often. But when he makes big plays, they are always high difficulty, jaw dropping shots or moves that he makes look effortless. I just don’t know why he is hesitant to step up and take over. He very well may still be a one and done. The NBA drafts potential, and he has a ton of it. If he has a good showing in the tourney, I wouldn’t hold my breath. I would love to watch our Fab Five stay in tact as long as possible (could you imagine the thought of all five of them starting as seniors!!), but I am just proceeding with realistic caution.
4. We are going to win the Pac 10. At the end of the first half, I was pleased with Howland’s subbing. ML, JM, DG, and JA all got some playing time and we were hanging tough no matter who was on the floor. This young and inexperienced team is getting older and more experienced. Howland will have them ready down the stretch.
by drumfool on Jan 24, 2009 9:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Bobo
Was very pleased to see him get meaningful time in this game. It is hopefully the beginning of a trend.
by Free the 16 on Jan 26, 2009 10:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
According to the post-game news conference, Aboya got the technical for taunting Overton when he was on the ground. What a load of crap from the refs. IMO, Aboya would be the last person on the team to taunt anybody. He wouldn’t even pound Morris’s ass after the cheap shot last year! That T was a huge turning point in the game, imo, and the refs gave that play to them.
by chenalex on Jan 24, 2009 9:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Didn't get the see the game, but I read through the game thread.
The main difference I see between this years team and last few years is toughness. Since CBH came to Westwood, his teams have been known for playing a “blue collar” style of basketball. We had players like LMR and LRM who sacrificed their bodies every second they were on the court, being physical and punishing anyone who dared to come into the lane. Some may say we just don;‘t have the size to play that way this year, but we’ve never had physically imposing players on the team before. The players we did have just played their hearts out and left everything on the court. We just don’t have that “blue collar” mentality this year. It may be that players are still trying to adjust to each other, and finding their roles on the team. But I think that was a key ingredient that allowed us to make 3 runs to the Final Four. Until we get that toughness back, we will only be a mediocre team.
by BruinFan96 on Jan 24, 2009 9:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
We are Tough
We have some very physical tough players ala the past couple of years. AA2, DG and JK are as physical as LMR who set the standard for lunch bucket. Of our starters, only ND plays a little soft.
The problem is that if the SPTR’s take us out of our very physical game we can’t use our toughness. I’m not saying that the SPTR’s are solely responsible for this loss, but UW wall allowed to be physical at both ends of the court and we were not.
With fouls piling up, we adjusted — if not formally, then psychologically. Had we not done so, we would have run out of players.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Jan 25, 2009 6:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree we are tough
But it is hard to play really tough without good size and a perimeter team. I think we do a decent job given the construction of this year’s team.
by rfirpo on Jan 25, 2009 10:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously?
AA2? Yes. DG, absolutely. Keefe? As physical as Mata-Real? No question he has improved, but there is simply no way the two are similar.
by Free the 16 on Jan 26, 2009 10:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Where is DC?
Is it just me, or is DC not hitting like he did last year? It seemed he couldn’t miss last season, especially when in tight games where we needed every point. This year, and especially the last few games, he has dried up. I never figured DC for a bad spell, the way Josh had last year, but these things happen, I guess. Hopefully, he will snap out of it quickly. But so far he isn’t dazzling me the way he did last year, when he more than held his own against KL and RW for offensive intensity. Even his 3 pointers last year were seemingly guaranteed…not so this year, and he seems to be taking fewer of them (mind you, this is all from memory – I don’t have a stat sheet in front of me). We desperately need him to find his way back to being an offensive juggernaut. I haven’t given up on the team as far as the tournament is concerned, but something amazing needs to happen soon – not just with DC, but with all our other warriors. Fortunately, we now enter into a chunk of games at home. It’s time to deliver.
by daggy on Jan 24, 2009 10:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Accountability
I’m glad Drew Gordon said some harsh things relating to their play today. The team has been playing way too passive for too long. That second half meltdown against ASU has hurt any mystique the team had as an advantage. Right now teams are not as worried about being locked down defensively in the second half of games as the Bruins in the past 3 games have a tendency to relax their play. This is an important set of games coming up against the Bay Area schools. The players need to step up their game on both ends and make a statement that they’re still the team to beat in the conference.
by UCLA4Life on Jan 24, 2009 10:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
was at the game today
7 rows up surrounded by husky “donors” and it was frustrating. it was an interesting experience. even when they huskies would make a run, we really reacted pretty well… (up until the last ten minutes. AGAIN.) I was actually pretty pleased with us for most of the game since we were matching their tempo but still dictating pace, and not settling on the long ball every time down the floor. But then our collapse. I don’t know what it is. It’s as if we go into “prevent” mode… I feel as though we have to take the reigns off of the offense a bit. The strength of our freshman is not to D-up and pound all the time. They are athletic and creative, and it seems like when we slow things down, our offense stagnates. I wasn’t entirely surprised by the end result. I knew UW would bring it strong and drive inside. The refs were obviously a joke, but you still gotta play the game. What pissed me off the most was sitting around unintelligent b-ball fans. Even when they were getting EVERY call, these husky fans were whining like little whores. And then the chants of “overrated.” Maybe when they win something – anything – they can start talking it up. But i guess the sports scene up here at UW and Seattle is so dismal, they are ready to blow their collective wad on any glimmer of hope. I can’t wait til we get them back at Pauley. I’m sure we will be in the thick of things at the end. But we do have some problems that need some fixing. I’m still waiting for DC and Shipp to both go off during the same game, by the way.
by seattlebruin17 on Jan 24, 2009 11:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Reality check?
It’s really easy to blame the loss on the refs or the players. But I’m just not sure that the criticism is correct. Yes, the refs affected the game. Yes, it seems like certain players should be performing better. The problem is that great teams rise above those issues. Here’s the tough truth: we have yet to beat a good team this year. If you don’t believe me, check out the current top 25 and compare it to the RPI top 25. You’ll notice that the lists are very similar, minus two names: UCLA and Texas. Ouch.
So what’s that mean for us? No, the season’s not over, and no, the team isn’t destined to continue this type of play. However, let’s not lie to ourselves. At the level the team’s playing right now, it’s tough to say that we are a “good” team.
Again, I think this can change. We need more Gordon and/or Morgan. I’m not saying CBH needs to play them more, but that they need to develop to the point where they deserve the time. In the best case scenario, if one of them (probably Gordon) is starting by the end of next month, things will look much better, as we’ll have a viable inside option and better rebounding. This isn’t a knock on AA2’s play or effort- we just need more offense inside and more rebounds.
Hopefully this isn’t taken as a “drive by” or an unfair comment. I just think this needed to be said. Oh, and losing to the Huskies at home isn’t shameful. It’s the play against ASU, WSU and USC that worried me.
by Class of 09 on Jan 24, 2009 11:26 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
At the beginning of the season
I kind of pictured that this team (missing 4 key players from last year) would struggle a little. We’d need to grow and even to lose games in order to improve. And I hope that is what is happening. I hope that the losses make the team play with more intensity and urgency on defense, and that they make Howland re-assess what lineups will give us the best chance of winning. Despite the loss, I like a lot of the pieces of the team and think that a mad scientist like Ben Howland, now that he’s no longer the frontrunner in the Pac-10, will start experimenting and find some things that work better. I saw some of that today. He played Gordon more, he played Bobo, he changed the substitution pattern in the 2nd half. Everybody on this team makes good plays, and everyone has limitations. I am particularly interested in watching how Ben tinkers with things so that the individual highlights we saw today begin to translate into major team progress by the end of the season.
by BruinsRule on Jan 24, 2009 11:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I missed the latest acronym update
What’s SPTR? I get that it’s something about refs, but the actual meaning is beyond me :P
by ranelar on Jan 24, 2009 11:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Stupid/Shitty Pac Ten Refs
Someone should add a little an acronym glossary to the site.
by kballs on Jan 25, 2009 1:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The development of the players
I’ve absolutely loved watching the development of our youngsters. Gordon is energetic on the boards and on defense, and has some post moves as well. If he develops a consistent offense, this guy will be our most athletic post yet.
Morgan has lost a lot of weight it looks like, and has improved a lot defensively. We definitely need his size underneath (a big body to stop smaller guards from driving) as his mere presence (and shot blocking ability) can deny players underneath. If not this year, he will certainly be a force in the next few years.
Anderson his first few games on the team played out of control. Now when I see him on the floor, I see him driving the lane, making good passes to players, and creating shots. He’s proving to be more than a capable backup to Collison.
Holiday has been fairly consistent all year and Lee has shown flashes of brilliance, but the injury has also kept him off the floor a lot.
I can’t wait to see what these guys do as we go on in the year
by blinkshot on Jan 24, 2009 11:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Oddly enough
after Saturday’s game, UCLA is now ranked #1 in adjusted offensive efficiency by Pomeroy, while defensive efficiency has dropped down to #52.
by gradstudentbruin on Jan 25, 2009 3:20 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
2nd Half
In the 4 losses, we’ve hung in there until the last 10 minutes of the game. The is a marked difference with how we play the first half and second half on the offensive side.
If we are a primarily a jump shooting team, then it is natural for the legs to tire out in the second half especially if you don’t sub as often (e.g. ASU). We need to drive to the basket more often.
I think teams are making 2nd half adjustments. Every PAC-10 teams has spent the last 3 years (or 4 decades) trying to find and expose our weaknesses.
The team stands around the last 10 minutes and wait for DC to bail them on offense.
The Bruins are not locking teams down the last 10 minutes of games.
Last year, we were a second half team, this year we are first half team. The focus and aggressiveness is there at the beginning of the game.
This week’s games against the Bay Area schools are vital. Go Bruins!
by UCLA Championships Made Here on Jan 25, 2009 8:21 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I can't cite any hard evidence
But I’ve always felt that 3-point shooting, or jump shooting in general, deteriorates at the end of games simply because the players are tired.
by EdDunkle on Jan 25, 2009 9:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Be careful
Saying things like the upcoming games are VITAL might get you banned by Nestor. Remember, what we say here adds pressure to the players and can have an outcome on the games. That’s called sarcasm.
by kballs on Jan 25, 2009 8:42 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I still think we win the pac-10, but barely. I don’t see anyone getting through better than 14-4. 13-5 could win it this year which is about what I expected out of us with no significant interior play. I think we will prove to be the toughest road team in the conference which will sneak us into the conference title or a tie for the conference title.
We played better in my opinion the last couple games despite our 2nd half struggles than that abysmal ASU game. At least we tried attacking before the final 15 seconds of every shot clock. I think we need to figure out a way to generate easy chances being a jump shooting team and that may mean more risk on defense. Pressing perhaps?
Or we can play it close to the vest defensively and hope Collison does not continue missing.. he is 0-12 from 3pt range the last 4. I think he needs to be more aggressive when he catches on an open shot like Dragovic is and just not think so much about his shot. They will start falling. And also hope Bobo can develop enough to earn minutes by getting those feet to move on the Howland hedge. I think the one reason he does not get the minutes is he does not hedge out defensively well enough for Howland. I think he is by far our best bet to block shots and maybe play a stopper if we do decide to press. Maybe he can play on our 2nd unit all risk team and throw all the freshman out there at once to be frenetic and alter the tempo and even tire out the opposition.
We are what we are, but when you go on the road and one team is allowed to exert their will on the interior with blockheads like Brockman that get bailed out with foul calls after they initiated the contact you are not going to win many games. It’s tough to play straight up man defense against a team like that and avoid fouling if they are at home and bent on initiated contact. Referees need to learn the art of the no call.. all contact is not a foul.
I think in all we are improving.. it’s nice to see Dragovic confident and better, Roll the same. The freshman getting better (especially Gordon and hopefully Lee the second half of the season). Rome was not built in a day.. and sometimes you do not have the exact seasoned personnel you need to make a final 4 run. I just want to see some good attacking basketball and our kids to improve and get better and more confident.
Enjoy the postseason success when it comes and be happy our team competes and gets better during this season.
by Penny2i on Jan 25, 2009 9:02 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Middle Ground
We lost an important game yesterday, but it is not even close to devastating for our season. And yes, we are still a good team.
(1) Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but refs had nothing to do with this game in my opinion. I agree with Nestor on that 100%. Washington simply used the fouls to their advantage, and most of the fouls seemed fair to me (except the technical). We don’t take it strong down low, therefore we don’t get fouls. This is nothing new this year. Credit to Washington for taking it to us—and Brockman was the best player on the floor yesterday.
(2) Live by the three, die by the three. It’s been said 100 times; make it 101.
(3) Important games again this week, and then we’ll be able to talk about what we look like 1/2 way through the Pac-10 season. 4-1 on the road through the first half of the season is pretty remarkable—we should all remember that.
(4) Washington was the better team and deserved to win. This team didn’t and won’t wilt under pressure of any sort. We are still trying to figure out how to best use the resources we have, and the losses will force us to alter the game. Gordon is getting better and more important. We’ll be fine.
(5) Final Note. Drago has been playing well, hitting some big shots. And he is a big part of some big wins. But, his starting makes us a perimeter only team. I think Keefe is our best inside guy, and a great rebounder. So, while I don’t disagree with starting Drago—I wonder whether we aren’t overall more balanced with Keefe down low for as many minutes as possible. Perhaps, maybe even, Keefe and Drago starting with Aboya first off the bench. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a little tinkering this week, not at all.
by rfirpo on Jan 25, 2009 10:39 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Undervaluing Alfred
I think people are really underestimating what AA2 on the floor means to this team. In my eyes, we play a lot better when he is in the game (Anyone know of a way to run a regression type analysis that factors in who’s on the floor at a given time? Any way to find the basic stat’s?)
AA2 leads the team in Shooting Percentage and Rebounds and is shooting FT’s better than Holiday, Roll, Keefe and Gordon.
And, although we like to yell “No Alfred” when he starts to shoot from the outside, he’s made some very important outside shots, lately.
I wouldn’t mind seeing AA2 and Gordon on the floor at the same time. Or AA2, Gordon and JK when resting JS.
Also, Bobo and Gordon when resting AA2. My strong sense is that Gordon would play better at the 4 than 5.
And, there is never a question as to whether AA2 “wants it” or is playing hard.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Jan 25, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i dont wanna come down on aa2
because he is a model of a true student athlete. but i was worried about him at the beginning of the season and i was hoping one of the freshmen would pick up the d quick enough to start. i was more than happy to eat crow, in this case, it tasted swell. he was scoring(absolutely shocked), rebounding, and shooting a much improved clip at the line.
but lately his rebounding has been absent and in the pac-10 games we’ve lost the 5 position was killing us. when the refs choose to call charges he is an asset, but when they’re not…. he had a game with one board, yesterday he had 4 in a 24 min, dg had 4 in 11 min and keefe 5 in 14. if he’s our best rebounder he’s not showing it lately. he setting picks and staying in the perimeter too much lately. lmr also “wanted it” and played harder than anyone on the court, but he came off the bench. i hope he gets back in a banger mentality and reasserts himself in the post.
but wasn’t just him yesterday, the team looked in a funk in the 2nd half for many possible reasons. when collison is getting pick-pocketed from behind and we shoot freethrows the way we do and they shoot as many as they did (and make em) it’s gonna be rough waters.
i think it would be neat to see roll and jrue at guard when collison comes out sometimes. jrue is more comfy at point and i think the pick and pop game the two of them could play would be pretty
Across The Face
by rb bruin on Jan 25, 2009 12:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
100% agree with Gordon excelling at the 4.
I’ve been dying to see that combo of AA2 and Gordon at the 5 and 4. While AA2 uses his strength to clear space an rebound, DG tends to use his speed and athleticism to move around and find angles to the ball off the rim. So planting AA2 inside makes sense, Gordon moving around a bit more at the 4 would seem to benefit his rebounding style. I think a big part of the key to seeing this combo happen more is Bobo’s game readiness. Once he can take some more time backing up AA2 it will allow CBH to use DG in tandem with AA2 rather than to give him a break. With DG at the 4 and either of the other two at the 5 I think we’ll do a much better job defending the inside and rebounding.
by TrueBlueBlood on Jan 25, 2009 5:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Until Jrue starts to take off...
We would give up far too much scoring having both Gordon and AA2 on the floor at the same time. Especially since we are not that adept at feeding the post.
However, if we got to a point where Jrue and DC were both consistently going for 16-20 a game, such a line-up could be a pretty good one.
by Free the 16 on Jan 26, 2009 10:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good stuff
I disagree with you often but always appreciate your well thought out comments/posts. I totally agree that yesterday’s loss wasn’t even close to “devastating.”
Also, you should start putting your thoughts in separate fanposts. Thanks.
by Nestor on Jan 25, 2009 11:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Have Faith in Our Team
I think the losses came in the appropriate time. Our coaches and players are learning from their mistakes. No doubts the referees favored Washington in some crucial situations and might very well costed our game, but I don’t think we were playing the way we are capable of playing. I like our freshmen are getting more time, and I think we need these guys to win the Pac-10. These guys have better potentials than some of the seniors and juniors whom we know we cannot win the Pac-10 with. I would not give up our chances and I strongly believe our players and coaches will come out winners.
by NNL on Jan 25, 2009 11:05 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

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