A Few Random Thoughts on the Oregon Game
Bumped. GO BRUINS. -N
Before both of our games, Marques Johnson said that the team that wins the Pac 10 title will have 4 or 5 losses.
If he's right, the winning team will have to win at home and break even on the road.
Sweeping the Oregon teams, on the road was a huge first step toward the title -- especially when you consider that we start 3 players who either had no or very little playing time last year.
One thing I think we saw tonight was our freshmen playing a little tighter. This was a hard place to play and the game remained uncomfortably close -- not the easiest way to break in to the Pac 10 for a kid. (Making KL's performance last year even more amazing.)
We also saw our incredible senior leaders pick up the team and carry it to victory. I could not be happier for JS. He is where he should be -- and he did it by letting the game come to him and then taking it over. DC? What can you say. After our last game of last season, there was a lot of negative talk about DC -- some people even saying that they hoped that he wouldn't come back and that it would be better for the team if he did not. What do you think now? Is there a more complete player in college ball? And, you have to love the fact that he is money at the line -- thereby allowing CBH to huddle with the other 4 players as DC shoots. AA2 is clearly playing at another level. He, more than anyone had to play against 8 people -- 5 from Oregon and 3 ref's.
I coined the phrase SPTR's in a moment of frustration during a game in which I got tired of typing Shitty Pac Ten Ref's.
They were absolutely terrible, today, making bad calls against both sides but particularly bad calls against us. Replays showed consistently that here were no fouls on plays during which they called them. And, there were two critical no calls at a very tight point near the end of the game; AA2 was the victim of both. First, he was mauled as he went to shoot and no foul was called. Then, later, he pulled down a critical rebound, only to get pushed out of bounds by an Oregon player -- no call and we lose possession.
I think the ref's had a major impact on our aggressive D. It's hard to play hard when you can't figure out what will be called and what won't. I think they took DG a bit out of his aggressive game.
I'm not saying that we were in a tight game because of the ref's. But, I am saying that it is in tight games that you want great ref's. You don't want a close game decided by people in striped shirts; you want them decided by the players.
The Pac 10 simply must do better -- in all sports. It's not fair to any team in the conference.
We have got to find a way to put teams away. I've been using my cat and mouse analogy. When I lived on the farm, I had a house cat and barn cats. When the house cat caught a mouse, he'd play with it; some times, even though it was outmanned, it got away. The barn cats didn't screw around. They were hungry. When they caught a mouse they did away with it.
We have been playing like house cats. We catch teams in the first half, and they toy with them instead of putting them away. We will not win championships unless we learn to play hard for the full 40 minutes.
We totally dominated all aspects of the game in the first half. We outshot, out rebounded and out assisted Oregon by a healthy margin. By the end of the game, they had the rebound advantage.
To some extent, that was the sptr's doing: Shipp, Aboya, Keefe, and Gordon were all in foul trouble for much of the game.
I think I under appreciate JK and ND. At the end of the game their numbers look good, but while watching them I don't see the intensity, especially on D that I'd like to see. I think it may be more a matter of my perspective than their playing ability. More than once I shouted "No" as ND shot and he made the 3's. Maybe, he's dialed in.
I never thought I'd ever say this but: We play better against the zone than we do against man D. Maybe that's because we've had so much practice against the zone this year and teams have not manned us. But, in the zone we've had some very easy looks for 3 and we had a lot harder time getting those shots, today.
When they slash, DC, JH, JA, and JS look great -- and should do it more. I think it was DC who slashed and then passed back out for a critical 3. Good things happen when we go inside.
We really need JM. I'm hoping he gets where he has to be to play more, soon. With AA2 out, we get beat on the boards. JM has been a board warrior in the moments he's been in the game. And, he has great footwork and good moves when he gets the ball. I know there are problems with hedging, but I still think the big issues is that he cannot run up and down the court in a fast paced game. Truth is that KL had problems with that at the beginning of last season, too.
I really liked seeing JA at the point with DC in the game. JA looks so natural and calm at the position. It's an interesting use of talent.
Which brings me to coaching. There simply is no one better than CBH. He manages the game and talent so well. There were quips about his micromanaging during the broadcast. I see it differently. He is teaching, every moment.
I love Marques' Bruin roots and will always be proud of him -- but I'm getting tired of hearing him on the broadcasts. Why don't I turn off the sound? Because I just love hearing CBH yelling instructions, all game long. Can there be any greater contrast than CHP (Coach Howland's Predecessor) the lizard of westwood -- who sat with a puzzled look having no idea if we were being zoned or faced a man D.
One last thing for the newer members of BN. We are a fairly superstitious lot here. One of the things we don't do is claim victory before the game is over. We don't get "comfortable" or "relax" until the horn blows. We actually take this very seriously and people have been banned for putting the hex on our team. If you don't know this tradition, and you say something like "Whew, that should lock it up" before the game is over, please don't be offended when you get jumped on. We've seen "won" games lost in the last seconds and we think fan overconfidence played a role in those losses. (Nonsense you say? Probably. But it is nonsense we live by. So, please play along with us.)
This was a huge weekend of wins. Oregon State proved that they are better than they looked against us by beating an sc team that is good, if not deep.
Marques may be right -- the winner of the Pac 10 may lose 5 games in conference. If that's right, we've taken a huge step by winning in a tough venue and sweeping the weekend.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of BruinsNation's (BN) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of BN's editors.
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Thanks, 66
You’re spot on, as usual. I usually don’t criticize the officiating during a Pac-10 game because my ref-standards are always lowered before tip-off, but they were especially horrendous on Sunday. It was like watching Ed Hochuli, Dave Pallone, and Don Denkinger all on the floor at the same time.
AA2 has become the epitome of a prototypical Ben Ball warrior, in my opinion. Just like AA and LMR before him, he is everything CBH preaches wrapped up in a number 12 jersey. What a treat it is to watch him play.
Formerly UCLA Class of 86
by Class of 86 on Jan 4, 2009 10:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
i'd put Joey Crawford onto the "dream team" of officials
I can’t watch an NBA game that he officiates. He is the biggest hot-head i’ve ever seen as a ref. Plus the players that complain to him always have a point because he NEVER gets a call right…
by bucknellbruin on Jan 5, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, you young 'uns probably never saw
the ultimate SPER, Jack Ditty. Any other geezers remember him?
by bru79 on Jan 6, 2009 2:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Only one small criticism, 86
There was nothing at all wrong with Don Denkinger’s call in the ’85 World Series. As a Kansas City-ite and hard core Royals fan at the time, I think it is important to note that the call was 100% correct.
Thanks are unnecessary – it’s enough for me just to know that the truth is known.
by Fox 71 on Jan 5, 2009 3:25 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
And as a Broncos fan I should point out
Hochuli’s initial call may have been slightly wrong, but once that whistle was blown giving the ball back to the Broncos was the correct decision.
by SuperBruinMan on Jan 5, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you're right that the Broncos had to get possession back
but the initial call was more than “slightly wrong”. It was absolutely horrendous. Now I don’t really consider Hochuli an awful ref because of the one call, but the point is that was one of the easiest plays to call all year, and he blew it.
by bucknellbruin on Jan 5, 2009 3:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I understand, and you're right, 71
I should have used another reference, as I am a former Kansas City-ite myself… My Royals allegiance is still strong, going back to the days of Bruce Dal Canton and Ted Abernathy. So forget him, Orta was safe.. how about one of the basketball refs from the ’72 Olympics?
As for Hochuli, well, I’m a Chargers fan living in San Diego.. so after further review, the play stands as called.
Formerly UCLA Class of 86
by Class of 86 on Jan 5, 2009 12:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Pac 10 standings
It sure didn’t take the cream long to rise to the top. Only 2 teams at 2-0.
I know we don’t worry about other teams in the conference, except when they are on the UCLA schedule for that week. However, the perception of the conference is very important in terms of NCAA seeding.
Hopefully, the bright lights on the seeding committee will see the Pac 10 as strong and balanced, rather than as down. There was talk before the season of only 4 Pac 10 teams being NCAA tourney material this year. Hopefully, that can now be expanded.
I remember one year (can’t remember particular year) where Bruins won Pac 10, including beating Arizona twice, and got screwed with 3 seed. Arizona got higher seed, based on non-conference wins.
The mission at the start of the season is always to win the Pac 10 and get a top seed. That will require the Pac 10 to be seen (rightfully, in my opinion) as a power conference. Here’s hoping.
by islandbruin on Jan 5, 2009 7:01 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Great Post, As Always, 66
Personally, I cannot decide if I am more disgusted with the non-calls when AA2 was blatently fouled, or the calls against him for his non-fouls. (Now, I’m always concerned that my pro-Bruin bias is coloring my perception on officiating, but I was almost equally disgusted with a couple of utterly ridiculous calls on Oregon, so I feel more justified in my disgust.)
I too, am thrilled for JS…last season’s numerous anti-Shipp commenters left a pretty bad taste in my mouth. This kid has everything it takes if he just lets it happen, he’s a menace on D, and he has a terrific attitude.
Now, Fox, I knew about your KC connection, but now there are more Royals fans out there, ‘86? (It’s 25 degrees here…no way you’re missing that, right?)
Love My Bruins
by Bruingirl83 on Jan 6, 2009 7:46 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Ahh, cold weather
Periodically I pack my feet in ice cubes to remind me of winter in Kansas City. But to put things in perspective, until I moved to Nirvana, where daily golf is almost mandatory, I would have moved back to KC in a second. It is truly a great place to live. And on top of everything else, there’s Bryant’s (the oriiginal place on Brooklyn.)
by Fox 71 on Jan 6, 2009 9:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, Bryan'ts on Brooklyn
I bought a bottle of rub from them when I was there last year and used it this weekend when smoking some quail.
Can’t wait to get back there — and if I do, 83, I’ll take you to dinner if you bring desert.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Jan 6, 2009 12:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I really hope I get work there again, soon
so I can meet you … and your desserts.
Really, you. Desserts unnecessary. Maybe we can lure Fox up with a trip to Bryant’s.
Last time I was there , the cab driver didn’t want to go into the neighborhood. We insisted. Didn’t seem that bad to me.
sjh
by Class of 66 on Jan 6, 2009 4:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
KCMO
Is having a tremendous violent crime problem, and that area can be dicey. It’s a shame, but it’s also easy for folks to get a little too paranoid and lose out on a city’s real character. We try to be aware and careful, but we don’t rule out great places like Bryant’s based on crime rates and headlines.
We’ll map it out so Fox can come on up and we’ll trek to Bryant’s.
I really can’t think of a better reason to conjure up a delicious dessert than to share it with you folks.
Love My Bruins
by Bruingirl83 on Jan 6, 2009 4:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a huge Royals fan, '83
But I guess someone has to be, right?
When I lived in Overland Park (I was KC, KS not KCMO) the Royals were not great, but I was hooked.. And I was there for the Chiefs’ Superbowl win in 1970, so I actually became doubly addicted… 65 Toss Power trap, boys!
I do NOT miss the 25-degree weather.. but I do miss houses with real bricks, huge yards, and basements.
Oh, the things we give up for a little So. Cal. sunshine.
Formerly UCLA Class of 86
by Class of 86 on Jan 6, 2009 4:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, '86
I live right next door to O.P., in Olathe—which I’m guessing you wouldn’t even recognize these days.
Your officially invited to our semi-official BN’ers at Bryant’s, with Desserts by me.
I always root for the Royals unless they’re playing my Mariners—they have a unique charm.
(The Chiefs, not so much, for me.)
Love My Bruins
by Bruingirl83 on Jan 6, 2009 4:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I would love to be there
I once joined three other Bruin alums for a get-together at some restaurant in OPK back in ’97.. We watched our basketball team get destroyed by North Carolina in the season opener.
Our greasy-haired “coach” looked completely lost out there. NOT a great memory!!
It would be fun to come back, though. Olathe was “way out there” back in the late-60s… In fact, anything past about 103rd Street was labeled on local maps as “Unexplored.” I guess times have changed!
Formerly UCLA Class of 86
by Class of 86 on Jan 6, 2009 5:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
GoogleEarth It, '86
You’ll be amazed. I’ve only been here since 2000, and I cannot believe what has happend to the landscape around here. Olathe proper spreads past 159th to the South, you truly cannot tell where Olathe ends and O.P. begins to the East, and the developments run right up into Gradner to the West.
Love My Bruins
by Bruingirl83 on Jan 7, 2009 11:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
65 toss power trap
I think it’ll go, boys.
Coach called a reverse here, boys.
That NFL Films bit where he is miked is the best thing in the world.
Another NFL films oldie but goodie has to do Skipper McNally, a famous gate crasher. He was one of the guys who carried Hank Stram off the field after that Super Bowl. It would behoove all concerned to find that NFL films thingy – it is really entertaining.
The neighborhood where Bryant’s is has never been looked at as particularly safe, but I never had any problems there. (Of course, that was a long time ago.) One Bryant’s anecdote: Back in the old days, I was the insurance guy for TWA. We had a big shindig laid on for the London underwriters, and to prove we were a midwest (i.e., litigation-free midwest) airline rather than an east coast or west coast (i.e., lots of litigation), I sent for ribs from Bryants. They got flown overnight to the Barclay House (very snooty) in London, and the very proper British waiters in their tuxedos and white gloves were serving ribs, one at a time, to very proper British Underwriters who didn’t quite know what to do. It soon became apparent that you had to get a little messy eating ribs, and ultimately a great time was had by all. I’m pretty sure that was the last time Bryant’s ribs made it to London, but it shouldn’t have been.
Solution to crime problem on Brooklyn Avenue – go during the day.
by Fox 71 on Jan 6, 2009 5:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's my all-time favorite NFL Films reel
Great Stram quotes.. “Play action pass!” “Where’s Gloster Richardson?” “That’s it, boys, that’s it!” And, to the refs, “That’s a great spot.. great spot.. You guys are doin’ a helluva job.” Love it.
By the way, Fox, my dad also used to work for TWA in Kansas City in the late ’60s and early ’70s.. Small world.
Formerly UCLA Class of 86
by Class of 86 on Jan 6, 2009 11:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed a small world
I wasn’t drafted by TWA until the 979 season, so our paths probably didn’t cross.
by Fox 71 on Jan 7, 2009 5:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Daytime Is Fine, Really
And frankly, Bryant’s is such a KC classic, it’s one of those “pockets” of normality and tradition. (IMHO) People from here don’t stop going to Bryant’s on Broadway.
Love My Bruins
by Bruingirl83 on Jan 7, 2009 11:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
P.S., Fox, '66, & '86
Well, it got all the way up to 35 degrees today. Count your blessings.
Love My Bruins
by Bruingirl83 on Jan 6, 2009 4:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Woo-hoo! 35 degrees!
Pack your shorts and sandals, kids! Spring has come early to Olathe.
Formerly UCLA Class of 86
by Class of 86 on Jan 6, 2009 5:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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