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Prince vs. Brehaut

If you like numbers, here are the relevant stats from ESPN.com

UCLA Passing
  C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT
K. Prince 13/25 81 3.2 0 1
R. Brehaut 5/10 64 6.4 0 1
Team 18/35 145 4.1 0 2

UCLA Rushing
  CAR YDS AVG TD LG
K. Prince 8 22 2.8 0 12
R. Brehaut 4 -24 -6.0 0 0
Team 33 66 2.0 0 12

At first glance it looks like Brehaut had a much better day...same completion percentage but Brehaut had double the average.

The rushing stats are basically the sacks and scrambles..I know Prince had at least one designed option for a few yards and 2 QB sneaks for nothing, so if you take those out, you get 5 carries for 20 yards. Brehaut did not scramble, those 4 runs are sacks. So if you add (or subtract) the rushing numbers from the passing yardage and lump in the carries you get the yards per pass play.

UCLA called 30 pass plays for Prince, for a total of 101 yards = 3.37 yards per play.

UCLA called 14 pass plays for Brehaut, for a total of 40 yards = 2.86 yards per play. If you read the other post I put up with plays charted for 4 games, the average was about 4 yards per pass play, so both were sub-par on Saturday.

The reason Brehaut's average is much lower is that he took 4 sacks compared to the one that Prince took, even though Prince was in for about double the pass plays.

 

Brehaut looked good throwing the ball at times, but so did Prince - both were able to throw the ball when there was no pressure. However once Oregon began rushing 6 or 7 things changed - those sacks really stand out to me though, basically a sack every 3 or 4 plays. 

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Kevin Prince

On this play below you can see UCLA has two separate concepts - double slants to the bottom and a high-low on the top. Keep this play in mind as Brehaut runs pretty much the same thing at the end of the game. Oregon rushes 7 this time - they don't cover the WR at the top of the screen, and man up against the double slants (a great man-beater). Prince has 6 guys to block 7 - there will be one "hot" defender who is unblockable, but Prince recognizes it and hits Austin on the slant.

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Video of two plays - on the first, Prince has a blitz through the middle, and hits Moline out of the backfield on an angle route to set up a first down and the goalline series. He had a WR on a dig over the middle at the goalline, but it looks like he sees the blitz and hits Moline underneath (hard to tell though). The second is the play diagrammed above where he hits Austin.

Richard Brehaut

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This play is almost the same as the one where Prince hit Austin on the slant over the middle (above). The TV announcers make a big deal about how the TE was open in the end zone, but he did also have the slants open on the backside, where the blitz came from. It's a similar look that Prince got, although in Brehaut's defense, the back released on a route instead of blocking, so he had 5 blockers for 7 defenders. It's not exactly a fair comparison, but it was a similar route concept down the field, similar look from the Oregon defense (off-man on both WRs, blitzing 7, wide open middle of the field), and Prince was able to deliver while Brehaut did not. If you watch the video above, Prince was given much better protection while Brehaut had a man in his face almost immediately. Prince takes his drop and get the ball out, while Brehaut drops, sees the blitzer, and steps up instead of throwing.

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Here is the video of two plays (video is screwed up at the end but you can get the point). On the first you can see a play where Oregon sent 5 and Brehaut had Austin over the middle in the area vacated by the blitz, although it looks like Brehaut was supposed to read something else and didn't see the blitz coming. He takes a sack and an ugly fumble. The second is the play diagrammed above.

Again, it is really easy to pick on the kid and point these things out. Not to say that Brehaut did not look good against Oregon - I just don't think that Prince looked all that bad. I think that he was more consistent and looked better under pressure. Neither guy got great protection throughout the game, (looking at the tape, some of our backs were blown up when they were asked to block), but I think that Prince looked better when Oregon brought the blitz. Brehaut looked great when he had time to throw, but this isn't 7-on-7 passing league. The fact that Brehaut took 4 sacks in only 14 plays is a pretty big deal to me, those actually add up a lot, especially when your offense isn't rolling up and down the field. 

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of BruinsNation's (BN) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of BN's editors.

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excellent post

without doing your level of analysis, I came away feeling that neither showed they were particularly ready, and I will trust the coaching staff to decide who should play when. I didn’t see enough evidence to think the coaches don’t know what they are doing.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Oct 11, 2009 5:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The two plays

that are being compared here show the blitz getting picked up when Prince is in and the blitz running free to the quarterback, unblocked and no chip when Brehaut is in. While the two plays are essentially the same, the blitz pickups are night and day.

by mdjohns4 on Oct 11, 2009 5:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Not only that

The comparison between those two plays don’t work for me because they game situation was totally different. The Prince clip was from a moment when the score was 0-0 while Brehaut clip was from a moment when the score was 10-24 Oregon. The situations were dramatically different.

Also, Brehaut’s number would have been even better if not for the absurd offensive holding call on Rosario and he showed a lot of poise even after getting nailed for a sack in his first play. Again, he looked pretty “ready” to me.

by Nestor on Oct 11, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I should clarify

What I mean by “ready”, I mean ready to be the clear cut starter. I didn’t see either differentiate themselves from the other where I would say the evidence is enough for me to believe the coaches should change their decisions.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Oct 11, 2009 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No worries

I wasn’t even referring to your argument. My comment was basically directed at assertions that Brehaut hasn’t been “ready” to play college ball.

by Nestor on Oct 12, 2009 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But what I don't get

Why is everyone jumping up on the Brehaut wagon. We can’t afford to take a gamble at the QB position, unlike USC. If Prince proved himself 90% of the entire year, then that’s your best bet. And I still don’t think he has any perception for defensive alignment

There's no one in the world that wants to beat UCLA more than _______.

by ucla13_usc9 on Oct 11, 2009 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

On the contrary

It seems that a rebuilding program has much less to lose by playing its true freshman quarterback who is likely to be the future of this team. USC has a Pac 10 title to defend. Pretty high standards for a true freshman quarterback, no?

Recruiting ratings do mean something, and Brehaut has far more potential than Prince. Then again, this is the fan in me wanting to get the future moving since the present isn’t much fun.

by mdjohns4 on Oct 11, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's the difference between wanting to be someting and wanting to become something.

Being a great team is fun. Becoming a great team is tough. A few of us here remember the year before Coach’s first national championship. We got close, but didn’t win, and it was a tough loss. But we became a great team, and the next year (and the next and the next, etc.,) were great fun.

by Fox 71 on Oct 12, 2009 8:36 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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